>joining the U.S. Military after the catastrophic clusterfuck that was the Vietnam War
U.S. Military. It's essentially a declaration that you've lost the game. Think about it. The power of free will and you *still* settle for slavery. Wonderful, hey?
From an early age, you're influenced by your environment. Your parents (or lack of), teachers (in some manner, shape or form) and other mentors can help steer your life in a direction, whichever direction that may actually be. However during all of this, if you're still alive and have most of your bodily functions, there are a whole world of opportunities available to you. Especially in this day and age of technological marvels and the wonders of the Internet to provide information (and, of course, misinformation.)
The military should not even be an option at this point, because not only is there enough information to suggest that joining it is only for those who've allowed themselves to be brainwashed by a military-industrial complex keen on retaining what power they have left ... but there is also enough information available for people to make their OWN decisions on what they'd like to do, instead. Still, people join. They wish to be broken down and remoulded in somebody else's image. This is a sign of weakness. Of allowing one's self to be influenced and corrupted by those with power and ambition. Essentially, those who join the military are no-better than mindless sheep.
>tl;dr: Join the military? You're a faeces-flinging, irradiated, nuclear-powered rhesus monkey who enjoys others making decisions for you - and you probably stink.
Your entire way of life is possible because the us government has expendable bodies to exert authority overseas. No military, oil trades in non dollar currencies, no world reserve currency status, game over. How do you think this country runs such deficits and stays afloat? Dumb fuck. Let the military do their thing and enjoy the spoils while you can.
Angel Gomez
shut up faggot
Carson Gomez
I only know one guy out of a couple dozen who were "brainwashed" during their time in the military. Most of the guys I know took the things they learned, utilized their G.I. Bills and are now making very good livings. I smell a whole lot of projection coming from you, OP.
Hudson Russell
OP reached a new level of gayness
Luke Long
>using influence on person while growing up to claim joining military wasn't really their choice but a consequence of their raising >forgetting it's impossible to do anything without some sort of influence
If you're right nothing really is your choice and the military is no different to anything else, so there's no reason to not join. If you're wrong you're just plain wrong, and there's no reason to not join.
Either way wanting to join the military is like wanting anything else, so you should do it in the same way you shit when you feel like it. Either way you're retarded
Worse ways to die. Every one dies, few get to pick to die for what they believe in. World is filled with pussies, takes something different to show a pussy they are a pussy.
Ethan Morgan
Free will is a meme retard. And you should respect the military.
Jaxon Davis
Every human society needs warriors to go and kill the enemy. Modern humans perfected this by raising "standing" armies (those paid to fight full-time and maintain readiness).
The problem we have had in the last 40 years since Vietnam is our civilian "leaders" are too pussy to allow the military to do what they do best - kill everything they see.
Jeremiah Cook
Having been their and done it more then once. I can agree with the kill'em all. Having your hands "tied" in certain ways gets your guys killed. When you roll out the gate your mission one, is to bring all your men back with you and leave theirs dead.
>Mocking Mattis >One of the few to stand up to Trump without end
Shut up.
Jayden Ross
Lmao the us absolutly destroyrd Vietnam They lost the war because internal politics Nigger
Josiah Evans
I don't think you understand the basic psychological tenants that make the military an emotionally attractive place.
Yes, 'emotionally', because humans have an emotional drive to 'belong'. To have commradere and a sense of acomplishment and acceptance. The military has been hiring psychologists for 100 years to teach them how to better run training and exercises to get their personnel to operate more efficently, habour more loyalty, and inspire a sense of patriotic (group) meaning which will make them most effective and cohesive.
Yes, this is manipulation, so you are right there, but they are meeting some basic human needs in doing this. Human needs which are not really being met many other places. Sure, if you are fortunate you may find this sense of tight-knit closesness elsewhere, maybe at your church, but in case you missed the memo, all over the christian (western) world: God is Dead. Churches aren't really what they once were, and people percieve them mainly as a sometimes obligation or as a haven for pedophiles.
Inside the military you don't have to worry about too much either. Your washing is done for you, your meals are cooked for you, your accomodation is provided, your clothing is provided. You get to be physical all day and hang out with people who become your friends (and most males including you OP, which is obvious from your post, do not have a lot, or any, close male friends with a deep connection). And then on top of all that they get a small stripend to use on the weekends when they can visit the local bar and get drunk and maybe fuck one of the army orbiting townee chicks who like to fuck soliders/sailors/etc.
To be honest, compared to the complex, overwhelming, lives you and I lead, I can see the allure. It's not for me, but I understand the allure.
It's designed to be attractive.
Aaron Allen
whew that was close, you almost made it sound like a cult or something
Elijah Baker
>enlist in Navy >get paid to go to school for about a year >run my own pharmacy for a couple years >take college courses while in (for free) >get out, use GI Bill to wrap up school
Huh
Justin Edwards
>>run my own pharmacy for a couple years explain how possibe if enlisted
Connor Morgan
Are you Russian or Jewish? Cause every American knows the lifelong benefits are fuckin sweet. If you don't enlist in the infantry, you'll even get to enjoy them after a few short years.
Evan James
slave
Chase Allen
Mattis is a meme, you puss.
Austin Adams
Military makes their own rules. We also get immense amounts of training, I was something between a tech and a pharmacist.
Dylan Taylor
Good post, user. You hit the nail on the head for one that has never served. Reading your post, I wish you would have. The Army could use a person like you. You already understand the dynamic and would be a good leader. Have a good day, user.
Ha, I never thought I would here something like that, user. Yeah, maybe in another life I could have gone down that road. It's late here, so I'll take that good day for tomorrow. I could use one right about now.
Thanks for your reply, user. And thank you for your service. I respect the hell out of you guys. Don't listen to OP.
Ethan Richardson
OP you are retarded. It's not slavery when you get paid
Aaron Collins
Now Vietnam has one of the best economies in Asia.
William Wilson
The US military is not perfect but...
We are the worlds army the reason you live a peaceful and war free life is because of the American military you should at least be grateful for that.
Your living in the Pax Americanis you do well to remember that
Angel Richardson
All time i life i want to inite to U.S Army but i can't do this. SAD :c
Andrew Edwards
Some people are born warriors. Others are born weak and frail, mentally deficient. Sorry OP, I wish they would have tossed you off a cliff too, it's not right to let someone live with debilitating weaknesses like that...
Faggot NEET. Talk like that only comes from bitches and crybabies who wanna just nag and complain and protest about every little fuckin thing.
Here's an idea you waste of flesh neckbeard welfare faggot get off your fat lazy ass and serve your country you leeching piece of shit or stfu and go somewhere else where they ban memes faggot
The thing I miss most about being younger was playing competitive sports and constantly trying to be the peak edition of myself and beat others around me. After I graduated high school and started working that all went away. Playing some ball with some buddies doesnt cut it anymore. I want to join now and just try to really make it all or nothing and see what i can get through it just looks like the most fun place to be if you find the right training pathways Work can be competitive and making money is good and can be fun but it just isn't enough
Jack Rivera
Under educate cannon fodder, go on, die so some rich cunt can make more money for your death. Land of the free.
Benjamin Reyes
People join the military mainly for money at this point. There's no real reason to do so otherwise, and younger people aren't as deluded as the old "kill brown kids for FREEDDUMMB!!!" older crowd.
So the military is just like any other government job. Welfare basically, but at least soldiers still deserve it, until they're turned against our own citizens that is. And they are reducing the size of the army, so soon that budget money will go to subsidize UN troops in America.
True, at the end of the day the military is what's keeping all of our computers on. Without them, it would be lights out in more ways than one. But ultimately it's not a job people do for moral reasons anymore, like back in ww2 days. It's a money or pride thing.
Carter Davis
> The power of free will and you *still* settle for slavery. Wonderful, hey?
Ah yes, the age old cry of the NEET that doesn't want to work but doesn't just want to come out and say "i'm lazy and don't want to try"
Samuel Hughes
1 USD = 23000 VND Guess I'll just avoid Asia then. More shithole countries than the middle east.
Jaxson Sanchez
Lelz, just another thing for normies to hate. The military is fun as fuck.
Jackson Baker
It's just a money job my dude. Plenty of people live in gang war zones. The military doesn't help the common man's day to day life. They are hired by the elites to do a job. Which is basically oil acquisition. That's how they help the common man, but not with protection or "FREEEDUMB".
We are all still slaves
Nathan Foster
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>shithole countries Russia is a big shithole. 1 UDS = ~ 63.00 rub. And the salary is ~ 140 US dollars per month. I know this damn shit.
Nathaniel Murphy
Russia is a pathetic joke. The only point to moving to russia is to live off the land far away from the crime ridden cities. A dystopia. Joke.
Evan Carter
How do you know? You never served. You have no idea what the real story is. So keep being mad you can't make the cut.
Brody Rivera
all my life I want to escape from this joke
Carson Richardson
If I could go back in time I would have probably joined at 18 and be rich by now with the money they gave me. With a business. But its too late and I have dogs and this mini business now so I cant just give up my current life.
Easton Wright
if rapefugees can do it Im sure there's someone willing to take you if you claim financial refugee or something.
Gavin Garcia
I want to get political asylum, but to do this you need to be in the United States. And it is simply financially impossible. And financial refugee is unrealistic because everyone thinks that in Russia everyone has millions of dollars.
Aiden Parker
I guarantee you none of them wanted to die out there. I dont hate the soldiers, i just think they are being killed for stupid reasons
Grayson Butler
said the russian troll
James Sanchez
>faeces
Not American.
Are you Chinese? Russian? Saudi?
There are a lot of people interested in weakening America's military, but it's never gonna happen
Brody Scott
If it were 10 years ago you could move to Cuba then get political asylum in the US. It's why US Cubans are Republicans, they got a free immigration pass.
My wife is British and it took us 10 years and $10,000 to get citizenship. America doesn't want more poor people and it's almost impossible to do it legally,when if you do have money