If you take the total number of people who voted for Trump (62,984,828) and compare it to the total US population (328,468,836 could round it to 387.2 million or 328 million, for this sake we will use the bigger number). and compare them.
You will find only around 19% of the US population voted for Trump. Before the lefties get all excited only 20% voted for Clinton so settle down.
of course not all Americans are eligible to vote so lets look at voting numbers.
Around 138 million people voted in 2016 (around only 58% of the eligible voters because US democracy is a joke).
so we take Trumps electoral votes 62,984,828 and compare it to 138 million, we find 45% of voters who voted, voted for Trump.
This doesn't mean anything really, I just find it funny the people who hate minorities, are themselves statistically a minority.
Math is fun, too bad Americans can't do it. Thankfully measles and mumps is coming back in the US. If adult males contract either it can damage their testicles and make them sterile. So that's a good for the rest of us.
On one hand, I think it's pretty damn sad that non-voters are the biggest political party in the USA. Can you imagine being such a clueless douche that you hand over your power to everyone else? On the other hand, it's probably best that these people don't go near a voting booth, and our system would probably benefit from remove many more uninformed voters.
James Mitchell
> 328,468,836 could round it to 387.2 million > Math is fun, too bad Americans can't do it.
Blake Turner
You sound so fucking retarded, it is really sad. I bet you think you just said something (anything) logical. Your incoherent babbling and citation to completely meaningless numbers extrapolated beyond comparative validity in inapposite contextual relations only serves to prove you are an imbecile. Clearly, you think you sound smart. Hint: you don't. You actually sound retarded to someone who is smart.
>of course not all Americans are eligible to vote so lets look at voting numbers >goes on to cite net population instead of registered voters >claims the percent that did vote should be determined by the net population >retard confirmed
Are you literally that dumb? You must be a brit. Only brits are this dumb and arrogant at the same time.
Adam Gonzalez
Clinton is right-of-center
Henry Roberts
>play game >agree on rules >lose >complain about rules
Evan Long
The post could have been written better, but it's more accurate than your bullshit summary. learn2read
You didn't make an argument, you just called someone a retard.
Hunter Nelson
>meaningless numbers extrapolated beyond comparative validity in inapposite contextual relations >Clearly, you think you sound smart. Hint: you don't. lol at irony
Jacob Sanchez
millions of illegals and dead people voted Hillary she got like 18% of the votes and trump got 21%
a fair and just system of government doesnt exist (although we would like/hope it would) you were born into slavery no matter what your socio-economic status is. we are fucking apes, dumb fucking apes that will go extinct soon enough.
Plus you fail to understand our stupid democracy. Popular vote means nothing. I wouldn't even vote for the presidency if I didnt care about the historical value.
My vote for presidency was casted when I voted for my state's electoral college representatives.
more fun with math - if you take the winner-take-all states that Trump won with 49% of the vote or less (a plurality, not a majority of the votes) and add the total difference between his and Hillary's votes, you find that fewer than 100,000 votes handed him the election.
Trump won 8 states with a plurality and Hillary won 6 with a plurality, but the difference in EVs was 53 for Trump, which is more than half the total EVs he was elected by.
Bottom line: even disregarding the popular vote, which Hillary easily won, she would have won the Electoral vote if states were not WTA but were apportioned by percentage of actual votes.
BTW - a vote in Wyoming is worth more than 2 in California or NY thanks to the EC. So the big cities do NOT select the president, the sparsely populated states do.
I voted for Trump and live in Ohio. Wouldn't change a thing;
Jace White
>Popular vote means nothing. That's not true. The popular vote determines who the electoral college votes for. The problem is that backwards-ass nowhere states get more electoral votes per person than places where people actually live.
Bentley Cruz
>The popular vote determines who the electoral college votes for. That's not true. The electoral college votes are "should" follow the popular votes but there's no law or rules stating they should. the only reason an electoral college rep is inclined to vote that way is to promote their re-election.
Aiden Bell
If you think that you did "math" you must be really retarded
Carson Hernandez
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Wyatt Ramirez
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Jackson Ramirez
Imagine being this much of a retard to talk about their own democratic system, and know nothing about it.
Soooooo fucking stupid, typical crying whining leftists. Besides, if those nowhere states didnt matter, why are you whining then?
Enjoy!!! Jump with glee, you got new york to vote for Hitlery, all the flyover states said fuck you to you uppity lefty fags and here you are, crying.
Btw, some electoral votes are from super delegates, thats like 15% of the electoral votes, completely random.
You stupid fucking neckbeard retard
Jeremiah Edwards
>for Hitlery Would Hillary have proposed state run news, inexplicably suck the cock of 4 murderous dictators, and lie about the most basic shit possible with full confidence people will accept it as truth?
Josiah Reyes
Another right-wing conspiracy myth. If it happened it would be very easy to prove, and yet never has been.
Occasionally a few slip through, and they're always found out.
Chase Butler
What's the app u used to get that reading?
Carter Collins
Are you advocating for a pure democracy? Honestly asking, because it sounds like you are.
One thing we can absolutely count on, is that Trump will not get more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.
Jackson Bell
I bet he does, his black and hispanic numbers have gone up by decent margins. But the real question is, how many whites are behind him. After the last few years of easily noticeable media manipulation, I'd be willing to bet even more centrist voters are going to vote for him.
Anthony Reed
Geography doesn't vote. People do. Just because a bunch of xenophobic rednecks can't stand living in proximity to other people shouldn't give their vote more power.
The electoral college has made a difference in only 5 of well over 60 presidential elections, meaning it was implemented to prevent a problem that doesn't exist. Today, it amounts to nothing but a golf handicap for the Dems.
Without the EC, Bush Sr. would have been the last Republican president. Probably ever. And rightfully so.
Nolan Anderson
Nice b8 m8
Asher Johnson
>328 mil rouded to 387 mil The only kind of person this stupid is the kind of person who takes gender studies
Luke Hughes
>After the last few years of easily noticeable media manipulation, I'd be willing to bet even more centrist voters are going to vote for him >everything is centered around Trump's war with the media I really hate you people. A centrist can easily see a President that started a trade war that fucked with the US economy and farmers, started the longest shutdown in history over a wall unpopular with the public and senate, which he eventually backed out of, and his inability to to tell basic truths. We've flipped 2 term red/blue presidents for the past decades because Clinton, Bush, and Obama provided stability of leadership with relatively competent administrations. Trump walked in, started a whole bunch of new bullshit without regard to consequences, then constantly whines and complains that everything is conspired against him without ever taking responsibility. There is nothing that justifies a 2nd term.
Blake Stewart
>meaning it was implemented to prevent a problem that doesn't exist. Without the EC, candidates would never again have an incentive to help people outside of Miami, California, New York City and Chicago. In a popular vote, votes stolen ANYWHERE will affect the total outcome.
The Electoral College...
1: Encourages Coalition building and national campaigning because winning requires a diverse group of voters from all around the country.
2: It means every state and therefore every voter matters in the election, meaning 51% of the population can't tyrannize the other 49%.
3: It also makes it harder to steal an election, the electoral college makes it impossible to predict which states will matter most.
Fair enough, but the idea of a democratic president is terrifying. Late-term abortions, granting citizenship to anyone who can sneak over a border, stripping US citizens of their right to free speech and self-preservation. And if they're really extremist left, socialism. America would become the next soviet union, and collapse shortly thereafter. I'm no Trump supporter, but God I hope the Dems don't take it in 2020.
Samuel Cook
only 19% able to defend its own country. us is going to become like russia, and than there wont be any elections ever again. allso there will be concentration camps "muh russia socialist are sweet and dont have such things"... yea they do and they work.
maybe the 19% will win vs all the other whites who turn agains there own kind. but than theres the enourmous inpouring of rapefugees... so gl to russia nr2
Many farmers being affected are the ones not wanting to diversify. Rising interest rates are the other major reason why more American farms are going bankrupt. After holding interest rates at virtually zero percent for seven years after the Great Recession, the Federal Reserve has been steadily raising interest rates for the past three years. Low interest rates encourage farmers to take on cheap debt, buy farms and expensive farm equipment, and cause farmland prices to rise. You should stop getting all of your farming news from politico and the guardian. >Tariffs are troublesome, but not a game changer, he says. “We're picking fights with the major market for pork variety meats – China. South Korea is our best friend right now. We have increasing exports to that country.” The diverse portfolio of markets and our competitive cost of production have helped insulate the pork industry from a much larger impact from the retaliatory tariffs, he says. “It's difficult for competitors to overcome our cost-of-production advantage. On the world market, we're going to remain very competitive even with some of these tariff rates that have been invoked.” agriculture.com/news/business/10-predictions-for-farmers-in-2019
Juan Evans
>this
Let's not forget that at one time, the majority supported Jim Crow laws. Our government is a representative one for a reason.
Noah Moore
>Rising farm bankruptcies are further confirmation of my warnings in a recent Forbes piece called "How Interest Rate Hikes Will Trigger The Next Financial Crisis." In that piece, I explained how recessions, financial crises, and mass business failures have occurred after historic interest rate hike cycles and that the current rate hike cycle wouldn't be an exception. forbes.com/sites/jessecolombo/2018/11/29/heres-why-more-american-farms-are-going-bankrupt/#6de1984a65a7
Jonathan Lopez
>I really hate you people
You are the problem. If you really think you're so much smarter, and better-informed than someone else, you shouldn't hate them. You should help them understand. You just rattle off opinions.
I'll have you know my hair is blue and I'm not a queer, I'm a transdimensional hypertranny.
Carter Russell
Jesus christ what a cancer-fest Yea Forums is. AIDS, cancer, russian faggot child raping shills...Moot was right to get out when he did. Everyone arguing with the bot/shill is a fucking cancerous stain of a failed abortion. Everyone in this thread should fucking kill yourselves.
Nah, you're right. All those foreign born scientists and technicians that actually make your shit... isn't it Russia that gets your people up to the ISS? I'll be over here suffering with my free healthcare, education and parental leave in my social democratic hellhole.
>Before the lefties get all excited only 20% voted for Clinton so settle down
do people unironically believe leftists don't absolutely hate Clinton?
Liam Reyes
>Without the EC, candidates would never again have an incentive to help people outside of Miami, California, New York City and Chicago. >In a popular vote, votes stolen ANYWHERE will affect the total outcome.
Only a Republican would consider this a problem, because it's how they think. Dems represent everyone, not just their supporters.
This. I'm anxiously awaiting the 2020 presidential debates. Trump, along with the American public, will be reminded of all his bullshit. A larger majority will want a different choice for the next president, not a manchild who lies repeatedly.
