Anyone have loli that's not weird fetish/degeneracy?

anyone have loli that's not weird fetish/degeneracy?

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I don't understand the question

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>loli
>not weird fetish/degeneracy

Pick one you tard

something like the attached image, character that doesnt look

Oooooh. Gocha

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sleep tight

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>loli
>not degenerate
Pick one fgt

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>not weird

Does not compute

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lmao

youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOOmxpa7SE

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Hmmmm...whoo think was him..?!

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will this do?

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fucking knife ears reeeeeeeeeeeee

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Dumb squid
Your son calls me mommy too

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>absoluteharam.jpg

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I know of a site with real loli but im too chicken shit to visit it. Especially with no VPN or anything besides duckduckgo. Besides i dont want to take that final step amd fully sacrifice my innocence.

How dare you sir.

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>loli
>10
wut

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are you not in freedomland?

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No. America sadly.

whoa! can't remember that from the show

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>booga ooga booga yah yah yah

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Sauce

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>Knows link
>Hasn't visit it
Not saying the absence of evidence is the the evidence of absense but. . .seems like that link ain't real since you haven't been to it.

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isnt loli by itself already weird fetish/degeneracy?

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this is disgusting

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Need moar.

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so when did ya'll realize you were pedophiles

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when I lost my virginity at 11 to an older women, my therapist says I am trying to claim back my innocence or something. SHe just wants the D.

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which fetishes do you want?

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Thanks I like the webms :3

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i see megumin spammer has arrived

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Oh. I can't really empathize with that sorry.

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I love lolis so much!

>loli
>not degeneracy

pick one nonce

Show?

oh yes, I forgot anything that isn't sex in missionary position for procreation is degenerate

Needless

pedophilia is the most degenerate fetish

most anime lolis are actually like hebaphilia bait not pedophilia bait

it's the same thing

OH OF COURSE IT IS! gore, snuff, bestiality, homosexuality, necrophilia, scat, etc. are so much better than a bunch of nerds grabbing their dicks to anime pictures...

not according to the DSM5 nor the law...

it's not though, hebaphilia is physiologically natural. They're at prime reproductive fertility at like 14-18. It's not a mental disorder if it's a natural normal instinct. acting on it's still wrong tho.

the DSM5 doesn't recognize the hebe meme, retard. all attraction under 18 years of age is properly described as pedophilia. which it is, of course.

You masturbate to children. Of course it's the most horrific fetish imaginable, what the fuck is wrong with you?

What if they're kids? is it fucked up if kids fap to kids?

Kids normally grow out of it. I grew up in the age of Kazaa; child porn everywhere. When I turned 18 I stopped fapping to it. So should you.

they aren't children, they are drawings. No crime, what exactly are you horrified by?

actually, yes. For a pedo diagnosis the attraction generally has to be for less than 13 years old.

my friends tastes, not mine, run 15+. so there is that.

Studies have shown that it leads to offenders seeking harder and more severe content. One day you you are fapping to loli; the next, purchasing videos of children being raped using bitcoin; the next, abusing the sweet child that lives next door.
It should be prohibited.

Wrong. Kys

then he wouldn't be diagnosed as pedo.

link studies

slippery slope argument, just like violent videogames lead to people seeking "harder and more severe content"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
The DSM-5 does not list hebephilia among the diagnoses; while [[[[evidence]]]] suggests that hebephilia is separate from pedophilia, the ICD-10 includes early pubertal age (an aspect of hebephilia) in its pedophilia definition, covering the physical development overlap between the two philias.[25]

You're dead wrong.

I'm not here to educate you, retard.

>citing wikipedia

then you have no argument

LOL.

you're a degenerate pedophile that needs to be hung, and that's the only argument I need :^)

>citing nothing; being a disgusting pedo retrard

Hes already hung in the pants, I think hes good. :D

Fuckin checked, nice quads

>didn't even read the wiki paragraph that explains how the distinction is made

thats still not an argument and i dont even disagree. ive been trying to understand people who think real CP and loli aren't necessarily linked, or that CP follows from loli, but i've always seen them as filling the same desire and if anything, consuming loli comes from a desire to consume CP but "muh morals"

fact is, """hebe""" is not official in the actual definition, retard. How stupid are you?

Not by definition

incels like yourself search for harder and harder content. loli leads to child rape for that reason. it's not that difficult to understand.

Or it comes from the fact that you have a generation which grew up with anime/manga culture while coming to sexual maturity, linking sexual arousal/release to the characters in the shows they watched which were for the most part depicted as young and child-like completely passing by the human element.

im a vocel and thats not how it happened for me, it was literally in the other direction, thats why i dont understand.

*UN wants to know your location

Blanchard suggested the criteria be split into pedophilia as sexually attracted to prepubescent children who are generally younger than 11, and hebephilia as sexual attraction to pubescent children, generally 11–14 years old. What DSM-IV calls pedophilia would instead be termed pedohebephilia, with pedophilic and hebephilic sub-types.[4] The proposed criteria for the DSM-5 involved an adult who, for six or more months, experienced sexual attraction to prepubescent or pubescent children that was equal to or greater than their attraction to adults, and who also either found the attraction distressing, used child pornography or had sought sexual stimulation from a child, on at least three occasions in the case of the hebephilic type. The proposed criteria would have been applied to subjects aged 18 or older and who are at least five years older than children to whom they are typically attracted.[11] The sexual and gender identity working group justified inclusion of the use of child pornography due to the expectation that pedohebephilic individuals would deny their sexual preferences, leaving it up to the diagnosing clinician to make inferences whether their patients are more interested in children than adults.[37] The altered wording (from "prepubescent" to "prepubescent and pubescent") and reference age (from a maximum age of 13 to 14) would change how pedophilia was diagnosed to include victims with Tanner scale ratings of 2 or 3 who had developed some secondary sexual characteristics.

>Frances, A.; First, M. B. (2011). "Hebephilia is not a mental disorder in DSM-IV-TR and should not become one in DSM-5". The Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law. 39 (1): 78–85. PMID 21389170

i dont think im following, are you saying people like loli because they jerked it to sailor moon or whatever dumb anime, and so theyre just conditioned to like anime aesthetics and it has nothing to do with real children let alone people?

wait so you went from raping children to downloading CP to browsing loli??

You need to fuck off from Yea Forums asap
There's no way you're not new

no, my desire for loli stems from a desire for CP, ive never assaulted any children.

>Blanchard suggested
>The proposed criteria
lol what are you trying to do nerd, other than prove my point?
The DSM currently recognizes all attraction to 17 and under individuals as pedophilia. Period. Which should be obvious. The activists you cited are idiots with an agenda, and probably pedophiles themselves.

proves my point. downloading loli leads to downloading CP.

Today I learned that many countries are pro pedo because age of consent!
Just kidding I don't follow some shitty DSM's guidelines or criteria. Like nobody reputable does

not without prior interest which does not prove your point.

Its similar to how psychologists think most fetishes are established, in that usually bizarre fetishes can be linked to an experience or fixation at/around the time of puberty/sexual discovery. It "cements" that sexual trigger to something not usually linked to sex. Sailormoon sure, but theres many before and after that as well. In this way it is possible that the attraction to loli developed without triggers for actual kids being involved, in the same way many people who want actual kids have no interest in lolis. To go further, I fap not only to loli, but to basically anything anime-esque while MANY of my friends have zero sexual link to animations but only to IRL pornography. This is again likely due to how/when I developed sexually as opposed to my peers

> I admit that I was completely wrong and am retarded
lol

are you saying that downloading actual CP is what lead you to viewing [2d] loli artwork?

pssst, not the same guy =3

I'm not that guy.
I'm:

>I"m not that guy; I'm just another idiot!
why even post this

im saying that before i solely sought out loli porn, i was already having sexual fantasies involving children. before that i just consumed whatever i found (because i was young and didnt know how to search for anything specific)

Tell me how new you are and be honest.

you are just butthurt that you are getting pwn'd

15, as of last month.

15 what you retard
I'm not asking your age fag which if it is 15 you deserve instaban

15 years. I've been on this hellsite for 15 years. May there be many more.

If you stopped looking at child porn, you would probably have more of an incentive to get out more. Find a girlfriend. A woman [approximately] your age. have a nice life together. belive me dude, the CP isn't worht it.

idk that just doesn't make any sense to me, maybe i'll never get it. i guess some people just like loli as a fetish? i literally cant comprehend that. i guess i understand "oh a loli, well that doesnt ruin this" but to seek out a specifically loli-only image dump seems to me like there's a deeper desire which hinges on the child-like features that only lolis have.

Must've been pretty shitty, getting mad at loli threads which have been a thing basically from beginning.

how often do you think i view child porn? or maybe more to the point, how long do you think ceasing the viewing of child porn would give me "more of an incentive to get out"?

>how often do you think i view child porn?
probably multiple times a day. It's what I would do. hypothetically.

>how long do you think ceasing the viewing of child porn would give me "more of an incentive to get out"?
maybe a month? I would hope. Maybe I'm projecting too much.../

I've been fighting the good fight. I know that the mods are on my side. Fuck pedophilia, and Fuck you.

>projecting
oof

well lets just say i dont think a month is enough then, friend.

hl

ok why is this fucking thread full of misaka and shirai

going cold turkey is the best advice I can give, as hard as it may be.

>all lolis that act older are just reincarnated 30yo men

They're really not.
Because for one, loli threads are and have always been ok lol. Nobody's on your fucking side

Of course you'd expect people who have linked anime to sex to seek out anime for sexual gratification. The child like features are a consequence of the medium, a la kawaii/moe look that is ubiquitous

Its same way most men in most countries actively seek out the youngest-looking pornstars because they fulfill both the genetic drive as weill as linking to the age of girls when they discovered sexuality.

>kawaii/moe look that is ubiquitious

then for what purpose would one seek out loli over any other anime porn especially when there's literally reams of it on like five other boards and loli can only be found here?

Pay attention to what's happened to reddit. The admis there? Largely the same kinds of people who are mods on this site.
I Would know. I'm a senior mod on reddit, and a janitor over here.

>going cold turkey
although I already know that you won't. because you >can't

Even non-loli anime character tend to exhibit these traits so theres no real mental barrier between the two. Like I said, I tend to fap exclusively to drawn pornography, not exclusively loli and I believe this is true for many loli/b/ros. Also, you could easily argue that lolis exemplify those traits of kawaii/moe most succinctly than any other drawn pornography.

Get the fuck back to r3ddit.

yeah this basically, trying to be really coy about it is tiring

lmao no you are not

What happens on reddit propogates here. Believe me, loli will soon be banned by hiromook.

how is this "the good fight" you are actively supporting the idea of thought crime. 1984 is not a "how to".

Well enjoy your slices of warm, juicy pizza then. I know I will.

i hate it every time but thanks

You'll grow to accept it, I think.

its been years but thanks

Buttjob

and you find absolutely no overlap between the childlike characteristics of lolis and real children?

>being this wrong
NSFW boards disappearing is more likely than banning loli from them lol
You're retarded man, gb2r

I'm on your side, dude. I love these threads.
But if only you knew how bad things really are...

Not sexually, no. What I mean by this is that the sexual part of it is linked to the experience when I was younger (to animated stuff), and my sexual development at no point included real children. Are lolis child-like? for sure, but that comes part and parcel with the moe/kawaii aesthetic

No, you're really not if you think being a hebewhateverthefuck-phile = same as pedophile attracted to prepubescent kids.
I'm going to sleep and you're going back to r3ddit soiboi

My kind was dealt a bad hand. Sadly even the name "Pedophile" has so much stigma and ignorance attached to it. If you call yourself a pedophile most people think you are either a psychopath that wants to kill kids or a child molester. Even the people that know the APA's definition of the word think that we are people that see kids as sex objects. In reality my attraction is a sexual orientation. Even if you were to destroy my sex drive my other lovey dovey feelings including my romantic feelings for little girls will never go away.

Since doctors don't want to research the subject, I think the medical community is hiding a secret. I don't think pedophilia is an illness, if it was an illness then surely studying pedophilia wouldn't be such a taboo among the "experts".

The ignorance towards my kind pisses me off, but even with that said I don't think adults should legally be allowed to have sex with kids, because there is too much of a power imbalance. Either way even if society came to realize that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and that most pedos aren't child molesters, we still couldn't allow adults to have sex with kids. At the very least the media can stop demonizing us. This pedo witch hunt is doing way more harm than good. Thanks to this witch hunt a lot of innocent men get punished for saving a child's life and a lot of father's can't even take their kids to the park without a bunch of women accusing them of being pedos. I won't defend adults having sex with kids, but this damn witch hunt is wrong.

Ok, nerd. Have a nice nap [obviously after you read this]. An epic shift is coming with these companies whether you like it or not (I don't); I'm only the messenger.

This. The witch hunt actually puts more children at risk because it inhibits potentially dangerous pedos from seeking help due to the stigma.

i bet you feel sympathy for people who label themselves "minor-attracted"

theyre disgusting and any pedophile deserves the shame.

I won't even call myself minor attracted, because even that implies that I see kids as sex objects. My attraction to little girls is a sexual orientation and nothing less.

Not the poster, but not familiar with "minor attached".

A pedophile who commits no crime and understands that adults cant have sex with kids and you still want to disparage him? You are holding him guilty for something he didn't make the choice for, that's just weak man.

i dont think it implies that but if you do, dont you think the argument could be extended to people attracted to adults as well? on some level a man attracted to an adult woman sees her as an object for sex in the sense that he wants to have sex with her.

im merely holding him to the same standard i hold myself.

I think society is more interested in attacking pedophiles than actually protecting kids. I mean hell if society actually cared about kids as much as they say they do then these school shootings would have ended already. Not to mention that people would also be interested in protecting kids from neglectful parents and child drug abuse. The media is too busy demonizing us to the point to where it is hurting children and this needs to stop. I don't care if society hates us, they can at least do it to help the kids.

But you dont have to hold yourself to that standard, you don't have that fetish/point of experience.

if you say so

are you pedo who feels he should be guilty/shamed?

i am

welp, I don't think theres any way to convince you that you shouldn't feel shame for NOT committing a crime, over something you didn't choose for yourself.

There is some truth to that. There are a lot of non-pedophilic heterosexual men that see women as sex objects and sadly there are a lot of pedos that see kids as sex objects, but there are a lot of pedos like myself that are sexually attracted to kids (or in my case little girls), but sex is usually the last thing on my mind when I am around little girls. I think little girls are adorable, and fortunately for me my parental instincts are stronger than my romantic feelings towards them. Even if I could legally have a 12 year old girlfriend I wouldn't want that kind of relationship. I would want her to see me as a mentor and an older friend. To some extent I actually don't like having romantic feelings for younger girls... Therefore I choose to suppress my romantic feelings, but I also choose to embrace my other lovey dovey feelings.

I not the guy you responded to, but I used to be ashamed of my sexual orientation. I spent 6 years trying to change my attraction. I eventually stopped fighting who I was and I chose to accept the fact that I can't change my attraction. I don't break any laws and I don't hurt anybody so therefore I don't have anything to be ashamed of. I am what I am.

What if the loli developed feelings for you? Would you accept them?

>sex is usually the last thing on my mind when I am around little girls.
>my parental instincts are stronger than my romantic feelings towards them

sounds nice

you can accept who you are and that you cant change and also be ashamed.

I would tell her that I loved her as a friend and I would want her to see me as a mentor and an older friend. I would also feel honored that a Loli had a crush on me though.

why break her heart? you could wait until she's old enough to marry, but promise you will be there for her if she still wants you.
Unless you didn't really love the loli, and were only into her because she's a lil girl.

It took me a very long time to understand how I truly feel towards little girls. Normally most of my feelings for girls around the ages of 8-11 is mainly like having a parental instinct, but it is multiplied by 10. With girls around the ages of 12-14 I have the same instinct that I do for the younger girls, but there are also romantic feelings. It's kind of weird actually, I could fall in love with a 12 year old girl, but at the same time I would see her as just a child and then my parental instincts would also take over.

By the way I was ashamed of my attraction for a long time. Now I don't have a problem with it. Hell, if Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is true then pedophilia is definitely not a disease, therefore there is no need to be ashamed.

being attracted to anyone who isnt biologically prepared to pass down genes is definitely not in line with evolution i can guarantee you that.

anyway i guess it doesnt matter, my view is probably just poisoned by my bitterness

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For me it's kind of strange. I would still love her when she grows up. I know this, because I know a young woman who I have loved since she was a kid. Sadly from my experience they move on and their feelings change. Besides what am I going to do even when I marry, do I just move on to the next kid? Actually I know what the real problem is, but that would require a long explanation. Nah, I think it would be better for the child if I was just her mentor and an older friend that would spoil her rotten.

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Well technically speaking girls around the ages the other person is romantically attracted to are biologically prepared to pass down genes considering that they start puberty around that age.

sorry i was mostly talking about myself

Post loli stories

i moved into my apartment before i learned there was a loli living next door

she was kinda cute and i was really nervous about bumping into her, but obviously eventually i did

we've shared about 5 words in a year and now i dont think she's cute anymore, life is disappointing

What if that young woman told you she loved you? Would you accept her feelings?
If you spoil a loli rotten, while being a mentor or older friend figure she will definitely develop feelings for you that could lead to love.

I think the sexual side of pedophilia is useless, but the lovey dovey romantic side would have been very useful for evolution. Think about it like this...First off I know you don't have to be sexually attracted to children in order to have any interest in protecting them, that's what parents are for. However what if a child lost it's parents or got separated from its parents? Without an adult to protect them children are defenseless. Life is hard, especially back in the prehistoric ages and I highly doubt that some random adult is going to want to take care of a child that didn't belong to them. That's where pedos come in, while everbody else is taking care of their own kids our kind would gladly take care of children that weren't related to them. Thus our attraction helped preserve our species. As for the trauma from sexual abuse that didn't result from force or physical harm, that is society's fault. Don't tell "sexual abuse victims" that weren't forced or physically harms from sex that they were abused and the child won't be traumatized. Since our attraction revolves around kids we would have tons of motivation to take care of kids that didn't have parents to take care of them.

From my experience, surprisingly a lot of kids know the difference between romantic love and mentor/friend kind of love. I have this cousin and when she was 10 she would hug and kiss me a lot. She would also sit in my lap and we would cuddle as we watched tv. She loved me, but she didn't love me in a romantic way. Some kids don't know the difference, but they can be taught to know the difference. My cousin knew the difference from the beginning. Our relationship was as close as you can get to being romantic without it actually being romantic. I personally think those kind of relationships are convenient for both the adult and the child.

second half i basically agree and any discussion on that would invariably go down a semantics hole anyway, but the first half

>I highly doubt that some random adult is going to want to take care of a child that didn't belong to them

thats pretty ridiculous, look at any lost child situation, literally entire communities come together to help a child that isnt theirs and that they probably dont even know.

ive seen arguments like this before and i cant imagine what use a romantic attraction to children would have that normal parental/nurture instincts wouldnt handle at least as well if not better.

That is probably because you never made any advance, but what if she told you "I'm in love with you", and she held those feelings all her life?

Thats actually really dope

sounds painful tbh, like happiness is literally in the palm of your hand but it takes everything in your being to keep from grasping it

Oh and by the way, as for the young woman. I would love her as a girlfriend, but only if we click 100%. Sadly most of the women I have met are not interested in the same things that I am. I am mildly attracted to women and that can cause some problems, but there is a good solution for that. If I met a woman that likes anime, videogames, old westerns, guns, hiking and fishing we would be soul mates!

So I don't think you're a pedo dude, you're just like a little child on the inside and are attracted to childish things. You've got a preference, sure, but you are willing to have a relationship with your soulmate that could be a young woman.
That is far more adequate than liking children because you're exclusively attracted to them.

user, have you never heard of puppy love?

Plus age of consent in Japan is 13. People just lose their shit because their societies deemed it immoral.

as far as im aware the more local jurisdictions raise it to at least 16 in almost every part of the country.

i see we've hit the bump limit. great conversation guys thanks for sticking around.

Indeed, but if the guardians of the 13 years old deem your relationship as "sincere" then it is okay.

I will have to look in to that. There were a lot of communities in 3rd world countries that helped children that didn't belong to them, but a lot of these communities had pedophiles in them.

There is also a very dark side to human nature that just makes our current topic depressing. A wise man once said something like this "The best way to understand man is to study him in his natural habitat, a poor village with no government would be the right place. There you can know your man inside and out"- Mark Twain. I took Twain's advise and I started doing research on people in poor countries with little to no laws and what I learned was very disturbing. If you take away politics and religion from mankind then you will end up with a wild, terrifying blood thirsty animal. An animal that will kill its own kind for fun and rape and torture anybody that is seen less than they are. Humans without politics and religion is an evil animal and we can be even more terrifying than lions, tigers and bears. Human beings at their core are pretty much heartless monsters. Don't believe me? Watch a documentary called eating with cannibals, you might be able to find it on YouTube. If you go back before politics and religion we humans are not as caring as you think.

thats just ingroup-outgroup dynamics, exists everywhere. obviously the violence and depravity only really shines in lawless bakcwater countries but its not particularly interesting.

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I admit that I do like childish things to some extent, but I have the mindset of an adult. I am exclusively attracted to little girls. I do have a very mild attraction to women though. I am a pedo and I am interested in a lot of crap that other adults are interested in. I would say the only thing that makes me think like a kid a little bit is that I hate work and I hate talking about work...Other than that I have the mind of an adult. Actually I am now entering the super adult phase. I am man that keeps my word, works hard and takes responsibility for his actions.