Can anyone explain to a wizard what sex feels like?

I might just kill Myself. I tried tinder, he’ll even Grindr(not even gay) with fuck all luck. It’s like nobody could possibly think I’m attractive. Feels like shit

Where do you live?

This guy is exactly right. Sex is honestly pretty lame if its not with someone you love. Sex is literally all in the head when it comes to enjoyment. So it really depends from person to person when it comes to what they find enjoyable in sex, that's why kinks are a thing, and that's why douchey dudes don't mind plowing drunk chicks every other weekend in their phrat.

And finding someone to love is a lot more complicated than having sex. That's why there are so many dumb people on Earth. Every body can have sex, everyone is granted the privilege of being able to reproduce. But sometimes it never happens. Finding someone who is going to love you as much as you love them is all about never stopping to look for that, and having the courage to just talk to girls when you feel comfortable to.

But your a wizard and I'm 19 in college. So idk man, that's just how I feel. I hate sex honestly.

You might, but you won't. You'll just keep living an empty life until you become a wizard. Enjoy.

Like having a wank except there are more people to disappoint

you're not bad looking. stay optimistic lad!

I’d rather die than waste all my years alone and with no partner ever. Wirh mo prospects

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>everybody can have sex
Except me of course. It's so easy that literally anyone can do it. Except me.

The physical sensation on your dick is honestly not very different from your hand, or a fleshlight, or a mouth. The true highlight of sex is the feeling of closeness, and sharing each other's personal space. It's a much deeper level of getting to know someone. You both live in the moment and forget everything else exists besides the two of you.

But that's a best-case scenario. It's not always that rewarding. Personally, I think it's overrated, and there's a lot more to life than getting laid. Nonetheless, sex is mostly just fun, but when it's good sex, like, really good, there's nothing else like it.

Best of luck on eventually giving someone that D.

vaginas kinda feel like a mouth. they have a distinct sour taste aswell

nah dude you have good features. Just don't be a bitch and you can get laid.

You'll be fine. I know guys who were virgins at 26 and did okay. I lost it at 23 and it seemed like forever, but it doesn't seem like a big deal looking back. Men peak at like 50.

I'm 28. I had sex for the first time last august with a 23 year old who i dated for around 6 months. She was amazing to be honest but way too different for it to work out.

She was slutty and had severe daddy issues which is why sleeping with her was so easy....but anyway she let me do whatever i wanted. I could facefuck her whenever and she loved it, get a bj anywhere at any time and she loved anal.

What i learned from my experience was that sex was this this life altering amazing experience. I'm a /fit/ fag and was actually pretty great at fucking, so it wasn't my performance or anything....sex just was overrated imo.

An emotional bond with someone you really love is so much more important than fucking a hole. Seriously. Call me a faggot i dont give a fuck but i'm right.

Thanks so much. I really needed some positive hope

i meant to say was *not* this life altering experience

You know how when you jack off and the second you cum you lose ALL interest in sex? It's that. After you cum you're just laying there feeling like you need a shower, your dick is cold because of foul smelling juices, and she wants to cuddle and make out and shit for like 20 hours afterwards.

My ex and I split up like 3 years ago. I've had opportunities to date and I declined. I've had opportunities to have sex and I did. Maybe that's just me, prefer to be alone. If someone is cool with getting off, fine. But don't stick around afterwards, I'm not interested.

So, OP. Work, make money, save money, jack off frequently, have sex when you can. Live for yourself. Can't find happiness with another person if you don't love yourself. Don't even worry about dating until you're like 40, and that's if you REALLY want some bitch around all the time.

That sounds pretty nice. Even if it doesn't work out perfectly, it would be great to experience sex like a normal person.

>men peak at 50
Bullshit. By 50 most men are significantly over the hill. Some men are still attractive at 50, but most are not. Men peak around 30.

If you were truly a wizard you'd already know.

>/THREAD

Gay guy here. I would.

You're about a 6/10. Don't get me wrong... 1/10's are like 1% of the population and 10/10's are about the same. Everyone else is around a 5 or 6 out of 10. So a little better than average is what I'm saying which is better that enough people that you shouldnt have an issue based on looks (unless you're only going after 8's and 9's because that shits not happening dude).

Drink more water btw, it'll clear up your skin.

No you're not, faggot. Date someone for more than 6 months and tell me how great that emotional bond is. You'd be surprised how bored you get with someone you were "in love" with.

why so?

I'm far more interested in the emotional bond part than the fucking a hole part. That's why I haven't just paid for a hooker. I don't even think I could enjoy sex if there isn't some sort of emotional connection to go along with it.

How can I be a 7? Cause literally I see anyone who looks pretty good but not amazing being rated 7. 6 is by far my least favorite number. My sisters friends who are 22 say they want a personal 7 to feel attracted. I wouldn’t rate somebody that’s fuckable a 6

Okay dude sure, you can bring yourself down by taking my words that way. But I didn't mean it like that. I said, "everybody can do it" to show that it's literally nothing special at all. And I honestly believe it's nothing special at all, along with a lot of other people in this thread who said the same shit as me,

"emotional connection is what makes sex enjoyable"

So if you want to keep being down on yourself because some stupid bitch hasn't had sex with you yet, great, i hope you like being miserable and letting people who you've never even spoken to before dictate your life. That's what Elliot Rodger did and look how stupid he was.

You can be something that doesn't need that. I told myself that 6 months ago even though I have had sex before, and I don't give a fuck about any of that now. Its all about me now, and maybe thinking like that will help you too.

>Work, make money, save money, jack off frequently
I do all those things. None if it makes me happy. I go to bed every night alone and miserable.

>(unless you're only going after 8's and 9's because that shits not happening dude).

how insecure can you be say shit like that.

inb4 you admit you are "insecure af"

To be a 7... def clear up the skin. Work out and get some muscle on you. Don't need to be Schwartzenaeger or whatever but you know, otter mode yourself.

Also shit like height and penis size and body hair factor in.

Are you at least 5'10"? Is your penis at least 5.5 inches? Do you look like austin powers in the chest region?

As for your feelings on the number, people have high expectations and it's not realistic. 330,000,000 in the USA (presuming you're Murican) and EVERYONE thinks they're at least a 7? Dude 5 is average... 6 is good.

Get tinder, one night stands is a slight improvement over jacking off, and hey maybe you connect with someone past that, and maybe you won't feel so miserable. Maybe you will even find someone to spend the nights with, and you won't be going to bed alone.

Just try not to spend money on tinder whores, make it clear is a fuck and go situation.

I work, make money, save money, jack off, and have sex. I'm alone and miserable, too. Sex isn't magic.

Ok, I don't know where you rate yourself. Let's say you're a 5/10. Average.

Say you approach your favorite... actress, actor, pornstar... whoever you think it 8/10 or 9/10 etc.

REALISTICALLY, no matter how confident you are, it's not going to happen. That's not a confidence issue it's being real with yourself. Unless you're making 6 figures a year, it's not going to happen.

Yep, I'm sure it's nothing special if you're able to have it. Drinking water is nothing special either, but if you don't have any it fucking sucks.
I've tried "ignore sex, just be yourself" for decades, and it's just led to unhappiness and no sex.

Totally, I get alot of attention from girls at a night out, but all the time and effort to get into meaningless sex isn't worth it imo, still looking for the one.. rate me btw

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Look up twitch/youtubers "Paige and Pat" or peachsaliva or whatever it's called.

Seriously do it. Look at that couple.

They're together. They love each other. They have an amazing relationship.

Look them up and be fucking shocked.

this

I remember when I lost my wizard hood, I thought distinctly to myself "that's all this is? That's what all the hubbubs about?"

Been married for 10 years, let me tell you, everything is overrated on a long enough timeline, love, companionship, whole shebang. Buddhists have it right.

this

Brandon pls just leave the internet

Also how many of you are fucking newfags?

Do women on tinder go for average looking guys? Seems like they have plenty of better men to choose from.
At least you got some sex. Want to trade lives?

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Im busy being brown

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The feeling around your dick doesen't beat your hand. Its not a big deal.
The best part about it is feeling close to another person, or the temporary ego boost u get when u fuck hoes
P.S. just go to a prostitute bruh

Sex is over rated

good looking traits... but are you sure youre over 18 yrs old?

Statistically, women think that over 80% of men are 'below average' looking.

Just turned 18

Do you (or anyone else here) have experience with prostitutes? Does fucking a prostitute actually make you feel any better? I can't imagine I'd enjoy it, knowing she doesn't give a shit about me.

it really depends on if there good in bed at all. let me just say that gwtting oral from somewone who doesnt know what there doing is very unenjoyable

If you're a guy on tinder and you aren't 8/10 or higher, or rich, or in some way REALLY fascinating (maybe your job is being a professional athlete or you travel the world routinely or something), you're not going to have much luck. The way these things work if you're hot you get a billion matches and if not you're lucky to get 4/10s occasionally. Meet people in real life, it's a lot better.

Too many guys get hung up on their looks and what their dream girl should look like. It’s a lot simpler than that. You just need to talk about anything remotely interesting to girls and just keep talking and schmoozing them. Obviously look for “get out” signals like if their not feeding the conversation or whatever. But just be relentlessly charming; ask them about themselves, what their plans are for the weekend etc, just chitchat. Chicks sometimes say they’re into tall, strong handsome men etc but they’re mostly interested in someone being interested in them and smiling and joking a little. Don’t be creepy, just act confident. Don’t be pushy or stalkerish just act casual. In my experience, I’d rate myself probably as an average looker at best, but I let my personality do the bargaining and I w never had any complaints.

Sex and kissing is just go with the flow. Forget all that porn nonsense. Real sex can be anywhere from 2 minutes to 2hrs depending on mood, chemistry or whatever. Too many factors. You can have great chemistry with someone and nothing in common or no chemistry and a great friendship etc which counts for lots.

Basically there’s so much stuff, just forget it all and yourself and go talk to someone

That's what I figured, but people keep recommending tinder. Is every other guy on Yea Forums a rich 8/10 or something?

in same boat user. Turn 27 next month. Too pussy to hire an escort.

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The feeling you get when a girl is shaking from an orgasm, while you fill her cunt up with your cum, is the best feeling in the world. It helps if she's screaming your name, or telling you to"please come now".

(but if you dont love her, I dont think that feeling is as good, but still epic)

like a bag of sand

Sound's like a nightmare to me, having someone that close to you. Not to mention the fact that my teeth are all rotting from lack of brushing them when I was younger and I do not have any insurance or money to get them fixed so it would be a horrible experience for the woman. Same reason I have never kissed anyone on the lips in my entire life.

I only give out negative hope, so fuck you.

I don't know how to be charming though. I can chitchat, but that just leads to the friendzone at best. There must be some secret way to make it obvious you're interested in more without being creepy. Also nice trips.

Ya, I'm sure that's why

A prostitute is fine if you wanna bag your “first time” but I wouldn’t rate it as ever being a memorable experience as such. Nothing beats having sex with someone you love or share chemistry with but all that is built over time. I guess pro sex is more so you don’t have to feel like you’ve never done it before and you could say “yeah I had sex only once or twice with a girl from college” or something

And just to further branch that answer; don’t overthink it. Just have a couple drinks (not too many, just enough to get the motivation) and go blow your beans in one. She won’t care if you’re good or not but you’ll be able to take the experience on board and be less nervous when you meet someone you like. Women can detect a guy has fucked recently or at all. You’ll lose that awkwardness soon after it

You are correct in the assertion that my outlook doesn't determine whether or not I have success and that a female would have to choose me first for me to even have a chance but my point was that I have never actively pursued any form of contact with females or males for my entire life. I do not want to be so close to someone and maybe I wouldn't have a chance even if I tried but I was just saying that I don't try and that I should not even attempt to get closer to another human in real life because it would be bad for the other party.

LOL underrated post

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Sounds pretty nice.
If I were as attractive and charismatic as Steve Carell, I wouldn't be a virgin.
Do most people lie to their significant other about their sexual history? I'd hate to have to spend my life telling people I lost my virginity to "some girl from college" when in reality it was with a prostitute.

Lost my virginity a few months ago at 26 and had sex about a dozen times with the same girl afterwards. Don't listen to anyone who says sex is overrated it's fucking great. Hard to describe what her pussy felt like, it didn't feel the same as when she sucked my dick. It felt a thousand times better, best way I can describe it is, it really feels like this is where your dick needs to be, it feels just right

How many times to you think I'd need to fuck prostitutes in order to not be an autistic pile of awkwardness in front of a real woman?

Charm isn’t what you think it is. It’s just smiling and chitchat which you seem happy with and especially knowing when to back off. Imagine the girl you’re talking to is you’re best friend when you’ve had a few tokes or drinks. You’re just talking about whatever, for a little while then you just go “see ya later!” And walk off. Practice on strangers sure. People at checkouts or in queues. Just comment on something and see if it ensues a conversation. Don’t overthink it. Just chat and be spontaneous

No need to overdo it. Just get one, let the experience soak in for a week or two, see how you feel about it. Try it again. It may not be for you; I don’t think that’s for everyone to be honest. But it will take the edge off, you’ll have the real experience and will be able to let go of the wonder and the fear of not knowing what to do or whatever. See if she’ll take extra to kiss. Some do that (it’s probably like kissing an ash tray with syphilis - your own risk) but it’s money invested well without compromising your mental health or self esteem

It feels just like you would imagine it feels. Plus its overrated asf. You think that it'll feel fucking amazing and youll cum as soon as you put it in but you wont. Lost my virginity at 17 so try harder you fag

It hurts to say this unironically, but yikes.
My dick has been in a lot pussies it absolutely didn't feel like it needed to be.
And the idea of sex is better than the act. Functionally, your hand is better every time.
And blow jobs feel better than fucking. Fact.
You sound like a porno Disney character. I hope you aren't real.

Like bags of sand

If you're so desperate find a whore. I personally ignore sex myself, but I'm also a hikkimoi that ignores all kind of social interaction so it doesn't make much of a difference.

I dunno what to tell you man, her pussy was really fucking tight but also very deep and I liked her a lot so maybe you just haven't been with the right one yet? She was really good at bjs and hjs but nothing comes close to the feeling of busting a nut in a tight pussy imo

Right, but what's the next step after basic conversation? I can talk about the weather with strangers at the checkout, but it doesn't get me any closer to getting laid. It's just polite conversation to pass the time.
Is it worth taking a long trip just to be able to fuck a prostitute? I'm in the land of freedumb where hiring a prostitute could land you in prison, and I'd rather not have my first time with a big dude named Bubba.

Sex is overrated by porn and the movie industry. It only feels about as good as say taking a shit after you’ve waited a while or having a long piss and massive fart. It’s just something your body does

Being pegged in the ass and having a prostate orgasm is the most intense pleasure ive ever experienced

You're probably a normal person. Normal people lose it at 17. What sort of normal things did you do to convince a normal girl to fuck you?

im not that user you're replying to, but here's what I do to make sex 5000 times better
dont jack off for like a week, maybe longer. that first stroke will change your got dam life. I feel you though, I've had several instances where sex was just a meh experience and I would get bored and sometimes not even cum.

It’s simple enough brah. You go into say, a coffee shop or whatever and you like the barista chick. You go in and small talk a few times and know when to quit. Feel the ground. So over a time you see if this is someone you can talk to, ask other kinds of stuff; where do you go to college, do you enjoy it? What’s you’re favourite place to go out yada yada and then once ask if you’d like to go for a drink or something (somewhere you can talk, not like a cinema or something) and she’ll either say yes or no. And let’s be honest, if she bumps you off just dust off and try the next. No chick is worth fixating on longer than necessary.

Bonus; if it is someone in a store or whatever, go for a coffee with your sister or female friend, see if the one works there asks about them

Up to you my man. I’d imagine taking the risk with an escort or call girl is maybe better than sitting there on cash, wishing you could talk to a girl. I’m not from states; it’s easy enough to get hookers here, so I wouldn’t know the ins and outs (pardon the pun) of getting hooked there. But I’d say if it’s possible at all, do do it because one way or another you’ll get some experience from it. Just enough to get back and see how it sits with you overall. You dig?

I guess holding onto your magic wand for so long rotted your brain, then.
I'm married, I've fucked a lot of women, and I've had a lot of great sex, but the physical sensations of sex do not even begin to compare to the IDEA of what you are doing. This is completely in line with your late blooming. You built it up for so long that just the fact that it was happening, finally, made it feel better than it was.
A pussy is just a damp hole that doesn't have the grip, flexibility or accuracy of your hand, but damn, it's a pussy, and you really wanted to touch one for such a long time, right?
The steak doesn't live up to the sizzle, my guy. Ever.

So you go out for drinks a few times, and then ask her if she wants to have sex? Or what? How do you go from just talking to something more?
Knowing my luck I'd almost definitely get caught up in a sting operation. If I want to get a hooker, my only real option is to fly someplace where it's legal.

You’re overthinking it man. It’s all so so casual. You go out for drinks, depending on if it’s a good time or not, you might go for a few more or whatever. You decide to ask to walk her home or get her a cab. Start with a peck on the cheek, over time you move closer to her lips or something. Hell, even on one of those nights out leave to the bathroom, come back and sit somewhere closer to her, read how her body reacts, go with your instinct. It’s a dance, you feel the vibrations and move with it. I know that sounds cliche but it’s true

You ask if she wants to come back to your place and you read the mood. If she comes back, there is at least an 80% chance sex is implied, but you just need to take your time and ask.
Don't just start looking at her tits while screeching about sex.

It’s kinda like whackin it, but a lot more slimey.
Oh, and it smells a little like sweat and musk also.

But if you don't ask and get explicit consent, aren't you asking for a rape charge? In today's society, I don't know if nonverbal will cut it.

Then fuck it man, save like hell and treat yourself to a week in Holland or something, go to Dam central and you’ll see ALL the tourists are at it. It’s in your face and these gals are PROFESSIONAL. They’re beckoning you in and you’ll get full sex and a BJ for €100. Crash boom bang your life is changed in fifteen minutes. After a week you’ve bagged a few times and you then go back and sit with the experience. That’s all. Have a few drinks (not too many) grab some of the legal hard on pills and go wild.

If you want the purely objective feeling; it's like a warm watermelon with a hole in it.
But then again, the overall feeling is better with someone else. There's some mental connection with it, not necessarily with the person. That's why people pay for prostitutes instead of grabbing a watermelon.

Again, overthinking it dude. There’s no need to worry about all that stuff it’s gonna make you more uptight. Try follow the pointers. Any human female will respond normally to this stuff

You could probably rape someone and get away with it, and that’s more likely than getting charged with a false rape accusation- and especially not convicted. Such little evidence that if it isn’t reported in the first like 72 hours they can’t really do shit.

You're right that being affection and love starved for so many years definitely fucked with my brain. But then again, you sound a bit jaded

America is too ruled by rules and regulations and doctrine and dogma. Go to Europe where it’s more relaxed and get hooked there and let all your stress fall away

I've considered doing this for years. My worry is that I'd just come back feeling worse. Either I'd really enjoy the experience, and then come back to my life of solitude knowing what I'm missing, or I'd not be able to enjoy it knowing that everything is fake. Maybe at some point though I'll just cave and go spend a week fucking hookers due to desperation.
It's in my nature to overthink things. I can't relax in social situations because I'm just second guessing everything I do and wondering what people think of my bizarre antics.
Conviction isn't necessary. All it takes is one false accusation to ruin a man's life.

Yep, we've definitely got our share of rules. Where in Europe would you recommend?

Buddy look at it this way; you’re feeling shit anyway and you’re mind is clambering onto “have nots” as a way to identify itself. Just strike one or two of those things off it. There’s nothing “wrong” with having sex or paying a hooker or anything like that. It’s a job and taxable income over this side of the world. and if you’re worried about LIKING the experience too much, what’s wrong with THAT? Is it wrong to LIKE something and enjoy things? There’s literally nothing wrong with the scenario. Come on. Your brain is good for one thing; watching out for ways to not die

Women are shallow as fuck when it comes to first impressions. So if your first impression isn't something absolutely perfect and magnificent, you'll never get good matches on tinder. The women are mostly just there to feed off the attention; average guys have no chance.

Plenty of better places to meet women.

Have you ever tried to meditate man, or mindfulness meditation?

without a doubt, go to Holland. Amsterdam to be precise. Legal drugs, hookers and great nightlife. You’ll have a ball

Not jaded, just experienced. Tell me one thing in existence that lives up to its hype after your initial experience with it.
When you're a virgin, all you want is that pussy. And then you get it, and it isn't this big unattainable mystery anymore, it's just a hole that someone is nice enough to let you jerk off with.
You can paint it as "oh my god, she's so hot, and I bet she is nasty" in your mind, but that has nothing to do with what it feels like. It's just sizzle.

you are by no means ugly.

you seem to have good height and you are not fat. get some acne treatment. dress like a proper male (you seem to fit into the formal type; tweed jacket, dress pants, leather shoes, etc)

Hit the gym man. You're still young, it looks like you got a chad jaw line possible with some fat loss, and a relatively clear complexion. A little work and you shouldn't have an issue attracting good women.

Right now I manage to live my life not knowing what I'm missing. If I enjoy the experience, going to bed alone might end up feeling worse. And I seriously doubt that paying for a hooker would somehow make me more attractive to normal women, so I'd just go back to being my current self except possibly addicted to hiring prostitutes.

I agree with this man to an extent and I’m 38. It’s great finding someone who’ll be around while you whack off and occasionally do deugs with and talk about anything to more than just fucking. That’s like third or fourth fiddle in a relationship at best

What other places would you recommend? Why would women be any more likely to go for an imperfect man outside of tinder? Any place I go to meet women would still have plenty of better men for them to choose from.
I've tried it a time or two. Couldn't really get the hang of it. My mind is always racing, which is probably part of why I constantly overthink things.

I really like kissing. More so than sex. Blowjobs come second. Kissing while fucking feels the best, but if I can't kiss the girl I'm going to fuck. I don't even want to fuck her. Is that weird.

Ok I sympathise with you man. I’m on your team. Look, you can hold onto your state as it is, right? That’s fine. Inexperienced and wanting. Not having an “in” and not knowing what to do. All I’m doing is shining a torch on the possibilities you have to open your experience a crack. A few less things to worry about. You can take it or leave it of course. Remember big egos aren’t just about how good you are or your accomplishments, they’re also about poor mes and have nots. So you get to choose to pull yourself out of that

50 nos and a yes is still a yes

Masturbation but worse

She's my girlfriend now but i fucked her before we dated. It's just talking too them and getting really close

I'd like to try kissing one day as well. I can easily see how people could enjoy it as much as sex, if not more so.
I don't know, maybe it would help. Partly I've just been stuck in a rut for so long that I'm scared of changing.
Is 50 nos to a yes about what you should expect as an average man?

The mind never stops chattering, it only gets more noticeable and doesn’t rule your life. No matter where it drags you, always go back to the breath. Sit there for 10-15 minutes and always remember “the breath the breath the breath”. The breath always anchors you. You’ll see your thoughts for what they are. Just meaningless chatter

It really isn’t. Kissing is amazing. Sex without kissing is just like taking a piss

i wonder how many faggots just tried...

Look man, Einstein said something like, and I’ll paraphrase, the definition of crazy is doing things the same way and expecting different results. Just go outta your depth a little. Treat yourself to that holiday man

You really need to be flexible for that, so don't worry, probably no one managed.

if it's gay to suck your own dick, is it also gay to masturbate?

Your problem isn't being unable to have sex, your real problem is you.

Maybe you should chance your habits to stop over thinking things.
Eat healthy, sleep around 7 or 8 hours (and early) do excercise and do things you like.
Also meeting new people could be great.

Seriously dude, if you're talking about intercourse, masturbation with a good lube is better. A great blowjob is better though. You can't replicate the light suction and the tongue, plus the creativity. Regular sex is meh

This generally sounds like a good idea, but it probably wouldn't lead to sex. I was very healthy and in great shape in my early 20s. I even used to have friends. Still no sex.

if that's the case, having sex in itself is making you anxious.. hire an escort out of town, if you can afford it.. just get the deed done.. you'll realize how overrated it is and have more confidence when dealing with girls

How do escorts generally differ from prostitutes? You both just go in pretending that money isn't getting exchanged for sex, and then you have sex?

Oooh that's a bingo! You're paying for their company, whatever happens during that company time is up to consenting individuals.

run your finger along the inside of your cheek (cheek completely relaxed, mouth closed around your finger, teeth together)
that sensation is roughly analogous to the inside of the vaginal canal. The opening feels tighter around the shaft of your dick.
skin-to-skin contact I assume you can imagine already
I lost my virginity relatively late, and the act itself felt very nice but weirdly just normal/unremarkable. A friend of mine lost his a year or two after me and said he felt the same.

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Most prostitutes whom take the term "escort" do so to imply they give a more personal experience. Essentially meaning you go on a regular date, with proper compassionate interaction, and have a guarantee for sex at the end.

At the end of the day you're still paying for sex. But like you said, you pretend money isn't getting exchanged and have normal human interaction for awhile.

The cheek trick seems pretty good.
Do people normally talk about sex with their friends? The only place I ever talk about sex is on Yea Forums.

Unfortunately yes. That's why I have none.

Oh, so you generally do a bit of a "date" first, as part of the normal package? I thought that was only if you order the "girlfriend experience".

Same, lost mine at 22, no rush my dude. Work on bettering yourself, get swole, get educated, and work on your social skills and you'll find someone you care about and are comfortable enough around that it won't even be an issue

I'm 40. Never had sex. Can confirm, I want to die.

Damn Brandon

Did you ever come close to sex?
If you could go back to 33, is there anything you'd do differently?

Why not see an escort? No point in worrying about principle at that age anymore. Don't you want to know what it's like before you die.

To clarify, the interaction is to make it more legal in terms of not directly paying money for sex. The interaction is more of a formality in terms of law enforcement, you don't actually have to take them out to dinner. They all understand this. Just ask them to hang out at your place or their's. If it's their's, be wary of being mugged or killed.

If you have money, you can turn it into sex, user.

Say you have $50 grand saved up. Print up a bunch of your bank balance slips and go talk to women, and at the end of short conversations, write down your phone number for them on the back of those bank balance slips. Tell them to call you. A few of those bitches will turn it around and see how much money you've got and will have immediate interest.

You don't actually have to take them shopping, user, just fuck them and go radio silent and repeat the trick as necessary. Make sure that when you talk to them the first time, that you dress well. The only think bitches care about is money.

sounds like a way to get your bank info stolen

No, but posting on Yea Forums is excellent practice at crafting autistic works of fiction. Its called "lying" user.

There isn't any set rules about how a prostitute operates their sex services. Each girl generally has different payment models and services they provide. Escorts are simply the ones very likely to offer a compassionate date before sex.

Honestly, there is no way to definitively describe how the experience will go what is paid for. You simply have to talk to the girls and ask what they offer.

It seems like any moderately intelligent woman would see through this trick in an instant, and the only ones it would work on are gold diggers.

LIKE BAGS OF SAND

There are nearly 4 billion women on earth, user, so let's start there. I put the over/under at 10, its a good investment if you can afford it.

I only have one close friend with whom I talk about sex. Personal experience with sex is generally not something I talk to people about.

It feels like shame

That fucking hair perched on the top of your head looks like a rodent.
Get a better style user

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Will prostitutes give you advice on your technique if you ask? I'm assuming I'd be terrible the first few times.

maybe, if you ask.. it's fine to tell them you're a virgin.. look for msog (look it up).. you're obviously over-anxious about sex.. once you get it done and realize how overrated and stupid it is, you can be confident to have a lot more.. only serious user advice here.. your anxiety far outplays anything you're actually imagining.. real advice

imagine squeezing two bags of warm sand and the smell of canned tuna

that's sex

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I'd never want to be 33 again. When I was 33, I was in year 5 on dialysis with end stage renal (kidney) failure. 3 treatments a week, 3 hours a pop. It was hell.

For a year and a half after I got off dialysis (kidney transplant, March 2014, just passed my five year anniversary) I had trouble drinking water. Every time I reached for a glass, I had this shock mental reaction, because on dialysis they always tell you to "watch your fluids" and if you drink too much water, treatment hurts a hell of a lot more. It was over a year post-op where I reached for a glass of water and suddenly realized I was avoiding drinking things because the pain reflex was unconscious. That was the point things got better.

However, due to the reason for my kidney failure (Alport's syndrome was the diagnosis I got) I have 2 big issues with girls:

-I have kidney failure in my history. Girls don't want to hear about men who are medically damaged and don't want to mate with them. Why risk your transplanted kidneys that will give out some day when there are plenty of guys with healthy ones?

-hearing loss. a side-affect of the Alport's syndrome is massive hearing loss. I struggle to hear which makes having conversations with people very hard. Asking for dates is tough when, even with a hearing aid (and I invested in a good one) you have trouble communicating. Girls are not forgiving. Its also impossible to talk to people in a noisy environment, like a busy restaurant. Hearing loss makes the immediate conversation and background noise conflate, I can't hear in noisy places, which is where most social interactions that lead to sex take place (restaurants, clubs, etc)

The other massive liability I have is that I'm also very smart, like IQ 140+ smart. I feel like when I talk to girls, I'm speaking a different language then they are. Its hard for me to hold conversations because the things that I am deeply interested in are things literally no one else is.

>Did you ever come close to sex?

I realized I sent my previous reply without answering your first question: no, I've never gotten close.

I'm 36 in a few months time. I'm no chad, but I'm older and wiser, and I know what it's like for anons like us. Feel free to ask questions user, I'll help you as best I can.

There are definitely prostitutes that help virgins ease into the experience. You just gotta look around and be honest with them about it.

But don't listen to Sex is not overrated and stupid, and this user is clearly borderline incel. Sex is one of the most unique and fun experiences a person can have. It goes beyond just getting off and having your dick feel good. I'm not good enough with words to describe how it feels, but it is worth doing. You'll feel better for it and it'll change how you view people.

I have, and escorts are great, but I'm not sticking my pee-pee in a hole that so many other guys have cum in before.

It seems like police sting operations on adult establishments in the US is way up (Robert Kraft got busted for needing a $50 handy) so, I went to mexico and found a brothel there. Best damn experience of my life. Girls were cheap there too, but I'm not sticking my dick in their holes for nothing, especially with the extremely lax attitude Mexican hookers have towards condom use. They don't really pay attention to it, everything is available for the right price there, including raw doggy. It would be insane to put my dick into that.

Planning a trip to Thailand next year, and that's where I'll probably bang for the first time, since I hear that Thai hookers are meticulous about condom use.

Except banks know that people just throw the slips away so they have no account information on them, user.

Sorry about the kidney issues. Sounds like you're making good progress though.
Talking in noisy environments is hard enough with normal hearing, so that's gotta be pretty tough.
Closest I've come to sex:
Early 20s, out bar hopping with friends. Female friend starts holding my hand, and tells me she's feeling horny. I have no idea how to respond so I do nothing. We get to the next bar and never speak of that moment again.

>moderately intelligent woman

>gold diggers

All women are gold diggers user, and moderately intelligent ones are no exception.

How do you meet people? At 33, I feel like my life is just going to work and back.

I almost feel like I need one of those surrogate sex therapists. I don't even know that I could get comfortable with a prostitute in a single session. It would help to have a few sessions, get comfortable with touch, get comfortable being naked in front of someone, and go from there.

It's feels like willy whammin a dickity dock until your balls piddily pop.

Realise that its ok to take up a hobby as a means to an end. A casual hobby can be much better, as you focus more on the social aspect. Understand though others may be more into it. I go to a games club to play mtg casually, some guys there take it more seriously but I go to socialise first and play second. Make friends, become part of their social circle, meet their friends, expand and repeat.

You don't really feel the texture. You just slide it in and you feel a ton of pleasure all over your dick. It feels like a pocket pussy (assuming you have one) but way higher.

It depends on what kind of people you would like to meet

Listen man it isn’t even something to stress about, sex is honestly over rated as hell like everyone else says it’s not special unless you love the person you’re having it with. Universe always knows what’s best for you it’ll decide the time and the place where you find the one like it did for me now I’m 21 with a awesome girlfriend, my own house, and a beautiful daughter. Life always ends up putting itself together. Don’t sweat it user

Probably people who are a bit shy and reserved, but still willing to open up and have fun (and perhaps sex). Loud parties, bars, clubs, full of extroverts are incredibly draining for me.

I think you may be confusing "real life" with "porn" user.

So you've seen escorts but don't fuck them. What do you do with them?

This kind of advice honestly really bugs me. It's easy to say "just wait and it will happen", but I've been waiting for well over a decade. I could easily find myself as a 40 year old virgin in just a few years.
How so? My real life couldn't be any further from porn. In porn, people have sex.

Top kek

Dont be a cuck men's peak refers to their peak money not just looks. Most men are gonna have the most money at age 40 and then start losing it as they have to spend it on medical things and retire.

Money doesn't seem to be all that useful for attracting women, at least if you're not obscenely wealthy. But if the money peaks at 40, and looks are steadily decreasing, I don't know how that supports the claim that men peak at 50.

Everything else. There's a lot that a man can do with a woman then just intercourse, user. Oral is pretty damn good.

I've only been to a brothel once, but it was fun, and in mexico, cheap enough to be worth the price.

>How so? My real life couldn't be any further from porn. In porn, people have sex.

Its that your "sex therapist" idea really sounds like the set-up of a porno. Its right up there with "pizza delivery" in the porn trope list.

But yeah, no sex means its not a porno. My bad.

It's a real thing. It apparently can be helpful for people who are extremely anxious or uncomfortable about sex.
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It sounds like you have intimacy issues, which go far beyond being nervous about sex.

Probably. I'm not really close to anyone in my life.

Perhaps you should try seeking therapy for social anxiety or anti-social behavior. You can't really have sex if you don't bother trying to become close with people.

>vimeo.com/284819112

Whatever floats your boat, user, I'm not going to judge.

Maybe. I feel like I'm years behind the curve in knowing how to be a functional member of society. And I don't have the years I'd need to devote to fixing it because I've got to work. Meanwhile I'm going insane from lack of sex.

Try group therapy. Wouldn't be a bad place to learn how to socialize and be comfortable with people.

Unless you pay for sex, you'll forever stay a virgin if you don't fix your personality.

Go back to /soc/

You're right. I'm pretty much guaranteed to die a virgin at this point. Oh well, at least I still have porn.