What to do when your crush has a boyfriend but you still cuddle and feel a connection with her?

You got any hobby suggestions?
I don't really have a passion as i'm studying for med school in Europe and i don't have much time, but i would enjoy doing something on the side.

Stupid nigger will blow off his own finger shooting like that.

go out for a hike it takes little preparation and investment
but carefull it might still be really stormy depending on where you are. alternatívly why not check out cells at work its an anime about anthrpomorphised cells in a body mainly erythro- and lymphocytes with alot of scientific accuracy and a ton of the excact opposite to balance it out.
I could also tell you fun stories about the time when I tutored med students while I was studying bilogy at university

I live in a city so there aren't that many open natural areas, but i guess a walk through the city wouldn't be bad.
Thanks for the anime, sounds interesting!
And sure i would love to hear about your stories, do share.

You butcher him and then her, after pop down to MacDonald's for your last big Mac.

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the med students where given abnout 500 ml of pig blood to do test on for example see how the Erythocytes would react different osmotic pressure so each table of two were given a galss of blood, before the experiment they were told to take some notes in their thick scripts for the course. One girl spilled the whole thing covering her entire script in pig blood. I had to repress urges to make "this time of the month, eh " remarks.

another time there were 2 exchange students(they might have transefered permenantly) in hijabs probably from Indonesia or some other asian country with substantial muslim representation.
I had no idea how well they spoke german and if it would offend them if I talked to them in english or not, second I awkwardly asked them if they wre ok with the pig blood handeling. It turned out it was no problem at all.

We had to collect everybodies student id since participation in this course was mandatory. which was fine until you get someone whos related to old royalty in which case their entire name instead of being shortend was just cut off half way on the id. For example Marie Luise-Augustine from and to Hoenz...
We had to say their names and they had to makle themselves heard. As soon as I said Marie 3 hands would lift up instantly becuase they didnt know of each ohter and everyone trtied to hide their embarrising last names

>pic related

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last one: a second non mandatory part of the course was a troutering session during the afternoons where we would go through the script in five parts answering questions related to the foolowing exam for the course.
Now every now and then there are new discoveries in medicine and the script couldnt be updated constantly to be kept updated.
one time I proclaimed something like there is this one anti funghi medicine which does not attack human cells due to it targeting specific fungal proteins. suddenly a hand wnet up and a student said that that was not true since there was a recent study with one type of those medicines which also targets human cells due to a some weird side effect.
Basicly that person undermined what liitle I had left of my teaching authority.

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appreciate your relationship with her for what it is.

stop demanding more.

You're not meant to let her go. What you need to let go of, is the ego within yourself that brings you pain when you should be feeling joy and love from this connection

Love cannot be extinguished. only a fool tries.

So I should continue talking to her, studying, watching movies, cuddling etc.. Without advancing?
How the fuck is that possible, it hurts me knowing that she's with someone else.

the kind of wholesome self improvement you suggest is like trowing op into the ocean to teach him to swim

>cuddling with someone third while in relationship
What a whore.

maybe masturbate like an hour after meeting her so you relief stress but dont link realease with your emotional attachment

yeah, this is good but could be like 2 years of growth in one post...

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Cuddling is normal lmao

If it's too hard, you can talk to her about that, but you must ask yourself:

"is it worth losing this intimacy for the sake of my own desires?"

I would do so much for the relationship you have right now. You have a blessing. Although it isn't exactly what you want, that is ok.

Everything that is happening with you, right now, is ok

sometimes that's the best way to learn something new c:

intimacy is a human NEED, not a want

>intimacy is a human NEED, not a want
what does that even mean?

Not with people who are in relationship with something else.

>Why this pain.
Because you are weak.
Hopefully, you will die soon.

Honestly, I'm in the SAME boat right now. And it's actually ducking fantastic. Intimacy, the movie watching, the cuddles, the small naps, those are what I want. If you want anything more, then it's usually just you wanting sex. What you have is a good thing. Don't ruin it. Since its going on, she likes it too. Give her what she wants.

debateable

Get drunk at least 3 days a week it still hurts and you get to drunk call her do it gets worse

Try to get with her anyways. You might have to fight the bf but it's worth a try. Unless you're a friend zone half a man bitch, then you should just cry fap

Let her go, it would be dificult but cold turkey is the only way

Just go full retard and ask to be their cuck

whats your relation to her boyfriend anyway?

I know it's good, but it hurts me knowing that she sleeps with someone else, i don't know how to explain this feeling.

I barely know him, we talk at parties etc.. but nothing more.

Finally someone normal in here

>Give her what she wants.
You are going to be a friendzoned virgin life with that mentality

First off, back away from the cat.

That we are, and always have been social and loving creatures. It's the only reason we've gotten this far; togetherness

If a baby goes too long without human contact, it will simply die. Not from starvation, not from hunger or exposure, but from a lack of love and purpose, like a leaf nipped from a tree.

A 20 second hug releases serotonin, dopamine, adrenaline, reduces cortisol, and relaxes muscles. It also improves skin health and boosts your immune system

We quite literally need each other

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Till you cant have a femalefriend without being an incel

>muh Friendzone
>muh hardass alpha LARP

>Why this pain.
Because you are too inexperienced to handle the oxytocin buzz.

try to get to know him better if hes a good guy hen abandon your pety jealousy if he trurns out to be douche then you can camouflage your jealousy with selfrighthousnes

You’re friend zoned. She gets her emotional support from you and her pussy fucked by another guy. Just know that she is a manipulator and a piece of shit for using you. That might make the split easier.

excactly

paranoid manlet identified

He's a good guy, but she told me a couple of times that she isn't in love anymore, but she enjoys the relationship they have.
She sometimes questions her relationship but it's pretty stable so there's no way of a breakup in the nearfuture as far as i'm concerned.

Holy shit the mental gymnastics you guys pull is insane. The sense of selfish entitlement that you are leaking is worrisome.

Nobodies being used. They are enjoying company thogether as humans. It's ideas like yours, user, which keep people suffering and alone.

Life is not the perfect box that you may think. Cuddling =|= sex =|= a relationship =|= manipulation

you think and speak in wild assumptions of what "should be" instead of accepting the beauty that comes with what currently IS.

reeeeee...

don’t be that available for her and always have high quality time with her when you two meet. make her work for the relationship and wanting more - she needs to see the risk/opportunity of an intimate relationship with you as more worthy than staying in the current one

so, work on appearing to be the best match for her while making her want to spend more and more time with you. and don’t overprioritize her! - you reward her (invest in her) when she invests in you, no beta orbiting or other special treatment, show her clear boundaries and enforce them

>show her clear boundaries and enforce them
I don't get this part.

I think he just means don't serve/wallow over her. don't fall head over heals and become pushed around by desire.

I have that with my cuddling relationship.. I'm suuuuper into him, but it's never going to happen, so often times I give him WAY more than I'm getting back, and so i feel drained and unfairly treated

a balanced Give and Take is important. We can't overexert ourselves

now thats manipulative

>so often times I give him WAY more than I'm getting back
I feel like this is what's wrong with me.
I should just wait and see if she initiates anything on her own or wants to do something, i should concentrate more on myself and wait i guess.

learning to love yourself and your own company is the single most attractive quality. Showing her that you have a life outside of her contact can do wonders for you both

don't do it out of spite though, just do it for you ^^

it's okay to care deeply, just be mindful of how much you give and receive

You go fight for her until it becomes a problem. Other than that she's just a whore or another girl. Move on to the next one.

You're either in it for love or in it for her beauty and body.

Love and life or just move on. Unless you have a new partner you're not even playing in getting her back. You gave her that attention of being preselected and she's never gonna let it go. Cheat on her until you win. If you don't she's a heartless stupid whore.

>learning to love yourself and your own company
I'm having trouble with that, i got no hobbies, no real passion, and now that i'm in love with her she's everything to me, that's why it's difficult.
Any tips on how to love myself and my own company more than others?
In other words on how to make my happiness independant of others?

No it's not. You can literally fight off the taken bullshit until it's a soap opera. Maybe then you'd realize you both have had too many sexual partners and done enough evil to be happy together.

You don't end up happy if you're the bad guy.

Yes you do. You spam the fuck out of it.

Don't do it.
You have to clear away from her.

What do you even mean?

You just made me realize his shit is pathetic and not love.

man up. tell her how you feel, and tell her thats why you do not want to see her again, yes you are not going to see her anymore...even if she tells you she wants you as a friend stil. it is going to hurt AF, mindnumbingly so but give it two weeks and you'll see you start to feel better.

don't do what i did. i orbited a girl for 4 years waiting for my turn. it never happened. GL OP and do not fail yourself, who know what is out there once you start dating again. it is not advised or wise but might help to take the edge off

Yeah, get away from people for a year. Go travel, learn to only depend on yourself. People will let you down, so you must accept this and always have a back up plan for when they do. Really, you can only depend on yourself in this life. If you put it all into a woman, you will get let down and it will crush you more then it should. You have to embrace the fact that there are plenty of women out there just looking for dick.

Learning to love yourself is one of the broadest topics I've ever looked into. There's no 'one' way, there is really only "what works best for you?"

Get out in the world and try new things, taste new things, break your comfort and go exploring for the sake of exploring!

Old ways cannot bring new ideas

For me, Hindu Buddhism helped me to love myself. I wonder what you will discover?

Can't tell her how i feel without breaking the relationship, not to mention she moves in with me and my roommate this summer, shit is going to hurt even more.

Assumptions are dangerous

You sir are a glutton for punishment. I do not recommend her being your room mate. Damn bro, you going to have to hear them fuck. Are you mentally prepared for that shit?

Soo...nice one Elon!

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When she cums while riding his face, she doesn’t think of you at all.

Ouch, painful but 100%true, OP

Funny enough we talked about our sex lives and she told me she never had an orgasm, but nice try at making me mad.

exactly. OP has feelings for her and that’s alright, but a relationship - even friendships - require communication and honesty.

the current situation is clearly working to fulfill the girls’ needs in disadvantage of OP. he needs to lower her priority and allow it to become balanced again or it will keep hurting his mental health

liar i have the same issue and tried that last night and now im just hungover

100% agree user

>he needs to lower her priority and allow it to become balanced again or it will keep hurting his mental health
umm what?

Whats this part about you still cuddle even though she has a boyfriend? If I dated a girl like that, personally, I could never trust her. Granted I got trust issues but even for me, even though I would, in your situation, consider myself a special case for why she was cuddling me. I just couldn't trust her. She would only hurt me more later. Once you come to a conclusion similar to that, you can instead use all that mental effort towards finding someone that will treat you like you deserve to be treated. Like a respectable partner that values you as much as you value them. This situation seems like all of that emotion is one sided and will only be used to manipulate you later.

Let
The fucking
Cat
Go.

lost

you really need to man up. tell them both they are not moving in. you own her nothing and her boyfriend even less. you know i am right don't you?

you have one obligation in life, and that is you and you alone. people come and go. also dubs don't lie yo

It's not her boyfriend who moves in, i'ts only her, the other roommate is my friend.

my bad delete the boyfriend part and i will stay with what i said. preserve yourself dude.

cocaine*

work on your own life and meet new people/women.
you can reveal your feelings or keep it to yourself, but you need to stop giving her a higher priority in your life than you have in hers.

meet new people, especually women. do not allow yourself to become an emotional doormat or backup option.

personally, I would confess my feelings, ask for space, then slowly rebuild the friendship and make her chase you if she wants more - you are the price

>you are the prize*

>confess my feelings, ask for space, then slowly rebuild the friendship and make her chase you if she wants more
This sounds good on paper, doesn't work in reality, she's in a relationship, you'll come off as desperate.

thank you and I’m out now

godspeed OP. You better take care of yourself and get what you deserve

wrong, you come off as desperate when you attach expectations.
I suggested to man up, own your feelings and ask for more space in the relationship to make it work for both of you - it rather shows that you control your feelings and life and aren’t a beta orbiter that sneaks around

Don't confess, just avoid her like the plague, if she wants you she'll contact you herself.

she can make a mature decision on how to handle your honesty and feelings then, process it and you can move on, knowing that she will make a move if she wants more. it’s rather foolish and unfair to keep it to yourself

Grow some balls you cuck. Your oneitis isn't special, and you are a loser for being unable to move on. There are like 3.5 billion women, retard. If a woman says no, next her, and move the fuck on.

Analogy: Imagine a business only willing to do business with that one special customer, and if she goes with a rival brand, instead of finding other customers, many, many other customers, or maybe learning from it, figuring out why your brand lost to the competitor, you cry about that customer and obsess about her like a faggot.

Grow the fuck up. Even if she was your ex-wife that you had kids with, you should move on. The fact you haven't even fucked her shows you are still a total child.

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unironically this

Should i just tell her i need some time for myself because i feel something for her, but i know that she's in a relationship so i can't do much about it?

>t. didn't read the thread

just ‘I have to confess something. I developed feelings for you and I don’t expect anything, but I need some space to sort it out because I don’t want things to get awkward(?) between us’

her relationship is not your concern - you even get points if her boyfriend gets immaturely jealous.
you just state how you feel because you value her without attaching strings nor neediness

Actually not bad, thanks.

You cuddle and she talks about her bf?

You're an intellectual whore. urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=intellectual whore

She's keeping you around for comfort and entertainment.

The trick is to jerk off in front of her. Ask her if she wants to watch, she will say no but she won't leave or take her eyes off of your dick if you do. Ask her to touch it etc

If she gets mad and leaves, problem solved. If she doesn't and likes it problem solved.

The real problem is you're cuddling and your dick isn't getting hard and throbbing, begging to stick it in. Think about your fav porn or something to get it hard when cuddling and she will want it.

>The real problem is you're cuddling and your dick isn't getting hard and throbbing, begging to stick it in. Think about your fav porn or something to get it hard when cuddling and she will want it.
wtf

She doesn't talk about her boyfriend, we cuddle when watching a movie, a series etc.. we talk about life and what not.

Are you autistic?

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woah, woah woah, OP are you still here? listen to me faggot dont listen to any of the autistic neet alphamale larps on this thread ok

What should i do then?

>she cuddles with you and talks about life with you while the boyfriend isnt there
>she says she's no longer in love with the boyfriend and is only keeping the relationship going because she doesnt have a problem with him
>she's moving in with you without the boyfriend (!?!?!?!?!!!!!)

BRO. you are in. you are literally about to get that pussy. STOP BEING SUCH AN AUTISTIC BETAFAG OVERTHINKING EVERY LITTLE THING AND WALLOWING IN SELF PITY, have some fucking patience, grow some balls, and tear that pussy up when the time comes

because she a bitch

Gain some muscle, fix up your looks/personality probably, and try find another girl

>when the time comes
lmao when is the right time
also she says that even thought she isn't in love anymore she still keeps the relationship going because of common interests and history

yes, history, and not a romantic spark. that's a relationship that is on life support and nearing its end, especially if theres another guy she likes.

the right time is when it is. be patient you pussy. look i know its hard to be in love with someone you cant have but you gotta keep your head and your dick up, the whole "aaa woe is me" mentality leads absolutely nowhere good especially when youre clearly working with some good shit here

What should i do in the meantime?

just appreciate life for what it is, and appreciate your friendship with this girl for what it is. it might not be everything you want but it's still something of value. but also maybe try and flirt with her a bit more, give her something to be interested in

unless she thinks you're gay or is just shamelessly manipulative, she is obviously into you and youre oblivious to it because you have such a negative outlook. excessive self deprecation is just as egotistical as arrogance. it's important to keep things in perspective but if your way of doing that is to constantly assume life sucks and that youll never get what you want itll just crush your soul and distort your perception of reality, especially when it comes to flirting.

you may not be the center of the universe, but life is good and the goal is to be happy, and you can accomplish anything you want to if you set your mind to it. sloth is the worst of the seven deadly sins

It's what I have, but with my ex, she also pleases my cock whenever I want - which is just fucking great. She moved on in life, sees people, so do I... but we share a connection, a bond, we talk, and cuddle sometimes and she'll wank me off with her smooth skilled hands or give an amazing titfuck with her nice D milkers.

I have no future in a relationship with her, as that art is behind us, but as a friend with benefits (and I actually enjoy her company) it's pretty damn sweet.

>it is what it is
>take it or leave it and move on

>you'll feel some degree of pain either way, better endure it with tits in your face

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also hit the gym it couldnt hurt

dude that's the fucking dream. this is the only way to break up with a girl

Michael?

nope

Dealt with one of these situations, ur gonna get cucked dude, don't do it. I know shit probably feels special, and that you feel like your unique in this, but this happens to a lot of people. Get out before it gets super dramatic, and you end up wasting your time

Also, may greentext my 6 months of getting cucked by a girl whose bf was heading to prison if interested

This.

do it

Okay gonna wing it
>Be me
>18 years old, 1st year in uni
>I live in a university town, not a massive population, and most high school uni goers end up at local uni
>coming from #varsity highs school
>total beta boy weeb in high school, but pretty sociable, looking forward to uni so I can start again, make new friends
>do just that
>befriend a few girls. One of them is dating a friend who's from outside the town, lives in res, still underage (not 19 yet/Canada) so we spend a lot of time drinking in his res
>one of these girl's friends annoys the living shit out of me
>so dumb, so irritating
>develop massive crush
>at this point her friends and our friends have formed a social circle
>ask crush's friends what the deal is with her
>"she's in a dying relationship, get in there while you can"

cont....

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>the muscle fixes everything meme

Try self care

>being an idiot and having no experience at all with women, this is a massive green light for me
>we hit it off at a party when we're both drunk
>get snapchat, phone number, etc
>we talk all the time via text/snapchat
>hangout at school, study together
>eventually she starts coming over, we watch movies together, cuddle, pretty cute
>I'm a fucking beta boy to the max, I've never made a move on any girl before, including my current gf. I've never been the one to initiate things. In retrospect I may have botched my chances during this period, but I feel like the nature of these relationships involve the feeling of "if I just did this one thing different!" anyways
>two or three weeks of this passive flirting builds
>we're driving one night
>"user I have something to tell you"
>admits she has a bf, I admit I know, she tells me they got in a fight which resulted in him running our of the house, getting fucked up, hen committing a bunch of burglaries and now he's scheduled to go to prison
>jump to conclusions and assume the only reason she hasn't broken up with him yet is because he's fucking crazy
>find out later that's not the case

Find comfort in the thought that love fades and her and her boyfriend will be annoyed which each others mistakes someday. Everyone is just tolerated after enough time passed by.

Go out for walks, hang out with friends, pick up an extra shift of work, work out, go on hikes if you can. Read a book. Learn something new. Dont drink or smoke. Do productive things to get your mind off her. Also if you really want to forget, delete everything. Block everything that relates to her like social media, pictures etc.

>another week or two later femanon starts to get cold
>doesn't think she can hang as often, will avoid physical contact with me, won't sit near me. Essentially just putting a blockade on what's happening
>party on Friday, gonna get drunk and tell her how I feel (I for some reason thing this is genius)
>get super drunk, get big time rejected, go into self sabotage mode
>wake up the next morning feeling both physical and emotional death
>I'm a fucking idiot
>got into big fight with her
>lie on the couch playing vidya, trying to take my mind off things
>get a text from her
>"sorry I fucked up and blew my chances"
>"no, you didn't. I just have a lot of shit going out. It'll work itself out soon"
>"cool" I'm fucking ecstatic I didn't blow it
>things go back to how they were
>feels good
>then the exact same events repeat themselves
>2 more times
>after the third we stop talking for a bit
>once we start talking again, we're both cool being friends
>one night we get drunk
>end up on my roof watching the sunrise together, I put my coat on her
>next day I kinda brush it off, feelings came out again for sure last night
>not sure how I feel about it because I know what I'm getting myself into
>later get a text from her
>"I feel broken, I want us to be together but we can't"
>This breaks me as well
>sad as fuck
>feels like shitty bf is never going to go to fucking jail
>by now I know her so well that I can tell exactly when she's with him
>I spend 10x more time with her
>shit ain't fair

>turns out cycle repeats again
>she loses interest shortly after
>I don't
>get cucked for so long
>tell her I need a break from out weird "friendship"
>she tells me she'll end up hating me
>feels like I'm stuck
>this goes on for a while until I decide enough is enough
>tell her everything about exactly how I feel, how I know shit won't work out, how I do want to be her friend, but I can't until I'm over this bullshit
>she understands
>we don't talk for a few months, both of us shit on each other all the time and hear about it through the grapevine
>one night bitching to best friend about it
>"sounds like you just miss her dude"
>actually, yeah, I kinda do
>call her to hang out
>she agrees, misses me too
>still kinda have a crush
>friends again, I start to drift away, she does too
>crush finally leaves my brain

We don't talk anymore really, although we are still friends. If I see her around, we'll stop and chat, and honestly, I don't know why I was so into her. I've had a pretty adult dating life after I got all that drama out of my system, Crushing is super nice, rare, and fun, but dating is different imo. Dating's a lot more logical.

Find someone you're unsure of op, go out for a drink, or coffee or something. If you hit it off you hit it off, and even then, it takes sometime to know. Chasing a crush is an ideal, and will never work out the way you want it to.

let her go if she is that while she has a boyfriend shes a slut and will do the same thing to you dont risk it faggot

>Dating's a lot more logical.
agreed.

between me and my 4 closest friends, three of us date, and one chases crushes. The latter always ends up in these stupid as fuck super dramatic relationships that end once the dramatic starting narrative wears off. So fucking dumb

OP listen to me you need to stop. I'm a 32 year old guy who doesnt have trouble getting girls, I'm not necessarily some chad, but I'm just not to inept I cant get a gf or a hookup every so often. Even I fell into this trap for the most gorgeous and intelligent and talented girl ive ever known. As amazing as she is she also has a deadly disease that flares up numerous times. When I first met her it was right before she got sick once, and she has no friends or family that actually care. So instead of trying to fuck a sick and dying girl I decided to be the only person there for her. Fast forward a few years and we were still friends, but I couldn't let the desire to be with her go. It fucking sucked, and it led to all kinds of trauma and time wasting and bullshit, and I'm not even incapable of getting a different girl.. I just really wanted this one. I'm telling you to get out now. Tell her how you feel, and take a LONG break from her, possibly never speak to her again. DO NOT LIVE WITH HER. OP you are asking for a world of hurt and stress that is not necessary. Just get out now.

This
Get her to be into you like crazy.
In what way?

I need examples of how to accomplish this

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wtf are you on about?