So supposedly data is showing that many women are searching for ultra-violent porn with tags like "extreme brutal gangbang", "forced" and "rape". What is interesting about this as well is that men seem to be going in the opposite direction preferring more intimate porn of their favorite cam girl or streamer. There is actually a lot of evidence backing this up.
Why do you guys think this is happening? Are women becoming more sexually depraved than men?
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No, this isn't even new. Women fantasize about more rough sexual situations. If anything porn is becoming less stigmatised to them so they're just looking for what they like anyway.
that isnt even true cuck
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Then they need to stop lying about how men are the brutes looking to rape. It is women that want this more and they keep teasing men into doing this. It seems to me like they don't want to admit that this is what they want and they want to trigger men somehow into giving them what they want without actually telling them.
They need to leave innocent men alone. They just want to be betabois idolizing their 3D and some their 2D waifus. Women are such liars for continuing to perpetuate this false image on innocent men.
Yes it is true. Get red pilled.
There is a huge difference between liking forced sex within a safe and consenting environment or the safety of their minds and actually being raped.... You have got to be a retard to not even figure that out yourself...
>so supposedly data is showing
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I don't see how that changes what I said. So I'll repeat.
Difference between a preference in the safety of your home and your head, or within a consenting relationship, and actually being raped.
Go ahead and fantasize all day about being a war hero. If you ever actually shot someone you'd very likely traumatize yourself.
Worst active measures ever.
Jesus Maxim, didn't you learn better?
How fucking dense are you? The picture clearly shows they are searching specifically for certain porn. Its not hard at all to find rough porn that isn't rape if that is what women want. Otherwise you wouldn't even see that they are searching that as well. However they very clearly are searching for the tag "RAPE" porn. Capitalized so your dumb ass gets it.
Lmao you still don't get it.
The other guy said women need to stop lying about not wanting to be raped and acting like they're teasing men into doing it. They aren't, they don't want to be raped, they enjoy rape porn and rape fantasy. Stop yelling you dumb mad 6 year old.
>t-they enjoy the fantasy but that doesn't mean they want to do it!
So you speak for women now tard? It makes more sense to assume that they want what they search otherwise they wouldn't look for it at all.
No I speak TO women... Something you don't get to experience a whole lot clearly. And it isn't even hard to figure out..
There is a huge difference between what you enjoy in your head, and what you actually would like to happen.
Fucking video games are nothing but fantasy. You probably wouldn't want to actually be in 95% of the situations you actually deal with in video games.
People fucking love horror movies, sure none of them actually want to deal with a possessed demon girl ripping their friends apart at a cabin.
I know. You don't get it. You're too angry.
>comparing video games to sex and porn
Yep retard alert right here.
Not the guy you've been arguing with, but you're wrong. Almost everyone else is too but you're still wrong.
>Thinks women's masturbation material means they want some ugly dude they aren't attracted to to physically assault them and shove his dirty unwashed dick in her dry unaroused vagina
Sure is a retard around here.
Seriously how old are you? I'm gonna guess you're under 20. This kind of retardation seems very young. If I'm right theres your problem. If I'm wrong, may God have mercy on your poor soul.
anyone who has actually talked with a woman in an environment where they are comfortable with being honest knows this is common.
Okay then fag tell me this. Would women like to have rough sex? Would they like to be choked a bit maybe but consensual? What about "forced" but consensual? How about gangbanged hard?
Okay now if you said that some women would want the above, why is it so far out there for your ass to think they'd want rape? You have men of all kinds here being so degenerate that they even claim to actually want to be the girl in porn. Wanting to have shit on the face and so on. Yet you somehow you are the spokesperson for women. Laughing at you right now guy.
You have misread this then. It says that orgasm is possible during rape, and that many think that means they liked it, and it doesn't.
Read it again.
Nope apparently not see The expert said no.
Yes. They do. In an established sexual relationship or consensual situation they love it.
They aren't teasing or misleading on this matter. In fact they tend to be very forward when they're into it. They'll tell you.
Still isn't the same as you actually assaulting someone. Still very different situations
I literally started my posts with "in a consensual situation. Let's go back shall we? this is my first post.
This is my second. Replying to you "forced sex within a consenting situation"
See? Base covered. You just have really, really shit reading comprehension and you're moving goal posts because your tiny little heart cannot handle being wrong.
Yes, I realise that's what this person is saying. It's the percentage that I'm drawing your attention to. It's a hard pill to swallow, but the facts are these:
Women fantasise about forced, violent sex. My first reaction was like yours, to say 'a fantasy is a fantasy' (whatever that even means). But that fact combined with the fact that women frequently orgasm during rape leads to only one conclusion: women fantasise about rape, and if they are ACTUALLY raped, they very often enjoy it to the point of orgasm.
You can't maintain the fantasy/reality distinction.
Your mom is searching for extreme brutal gangbang forced rape porn.
Your mother is legit.
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I never said they didn't fantasize about being forced.
MeWhat I'm arguing with is this guy seems to think women straight up want to be actually raped and can't tell the difference between sexual fantasy and acting it out in a safe situation, and being pulled into the bushes at knife point by autismo the great.
data or gtfo
>"Supposedly data"
>"A lot of evidence backing this up"
Wow user sure seems like you know what your talking about, wouldn't it be crazy if YOU PROVIDED ANY OF THIS DATA OR EVIDENCE INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING IT EXISTS
OH WAIT YOU CANT BECAUSE YOURE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS
FUCK YOU
On the whole women would rather not be raped than be raped, of course. But you can't deny it's ominous that women a) fantasise about rape and b) frequently enjoy rape to the point of orgasm.
Not really... I took some psychology, and brains are just kind of fucked up..
Do you know how common it is for people to see toddlers and want to just fucking field goal them? It's very, very common. More common people want to suffocate them.
It's called cuteness aggression. Look it up. I have that. You very well might.
Point is don't worry about or judge people based on what's in their heads.
'Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Empirical Evaluation of the Major Explanations'
Oh and
>Enjoy rape to the point of orgasm
That's the exact stigma the articles you posted are talking about. Orgasm doesn't mean they actually liked it. It could be a very terrifying and traumatizing situation. It does not turn the nerves off. They can still be stimulated the orgasm.
Your sources even said that's part of why women don't come forward. Because people keep saying 'if they had orgasms they liked it" which victims internalize and carry around and don't get help.
Porn is like a drug. You start out jacking off to the swimsuit section of the Lands' End catalog and by the time you're done you can't shoot to anything less than an army of rats with rabies eating out an elderly Japanese woman dressed like Big Bird while doing broken English karaoke in a public toilet to Steve Perry's 1984 soft rock hit "Foolish Heart".
Imagine this: a soldier fantasises sexually about killing people. When he legitimately kills an enemy in battle, he cums. He's done nothing wrong, don't judge him?
You are inventing an extremely specific situation, with an extremely anecdotal character, wherein the worst part isn't even whether or not he came, but the fact he murdered someone...
Stop thinking you're smart.
link?
What do you mean orgasm doesn't mean they liked it? It doesn't mean you wanted it, but it certainly means that you found it sexually pleasurable. It's literally true by tautology, an orgasm is sexually pleasurable.
I said 'a legitimate kill in battle', not murder, not condemnable.
Kek
Fake news buddy. Many women want 2 cocks but dont want to be called a slut. Almost none are into being abused. Raped is a small number.
Look at the data posted here, you spaz. 62% of women fantasise about forced sex.
Rape discord
Different person, haven't read the article yet. How many women were conducted in this study?
The clitoris is made up of sensitive nerve endings that can be stimulated to orgasm.. they do not need a psychological component to reach said orgasm, nor does arrousing necessarily have to be pleasurable, enjoyable, or not horrifically traumatizing.
Subjective. Highly subjective. Killing is killing regardless of the rules we want to put around them.
Of course it has to be pleasurable, you retard. What do you think alerted these women to the fact they orgasmed? The sudden spasm of pleasure known as an orgasm. It's literally non-sensical to speak of a pleasureless orgasm, it's a fucking oxymoron.
Rape is rape too
355 undergraduate girl's
Some women orgasm when they give birth. Are you implying that those women like to fuck babies?
Fuck that apostrophe, I'm not retarded Yea ForumsRos, I swear
Well now you're being intransigent and silly
Dude if someone was threatening me and my life and had me down with a knife to my throat and I was terrified and he shoved a tbone steak in my mouth it's gonna taste fucking delicious regardless. (Remembering taste is advanced touch), it will be a pleasurable experience in my mouth because that's a thing my mouth does when stimulated in that way.
It's not going to make the situation better, me happier, nor when I'm recalling it am i gonna say "well it was awful but oh fucking boy it was medium rare, cooked to perfection. That part was thoroughly enjoyable".
No. The whole situation sucked regardless of what pleasurable tactile situations were forced upon me.
So 60 something percent of those 355 girls were into rape porn but you're making the implication that all girls wanna get raped and they're liars and blah blah blah
I don't know about the "brutal gangbang" or whatnot, but I'm not sure there's much to be gleaned from this. Lots of dudes pretend to be women online, like PornHub for example. That's just common knowledge.
Still, I can confirm that in the last couple of years I've had several girls either outright start licking my ass or ask if they could when they were giving me a bj. I've also had a couple girls ask me to piss on them when we were showering together.
There was one girl a couple years ago, an exceptional wackjob, who finally talked me into beating her with a wire coat hanger in all the places that wouldn't be visible at work (no neck, arms or legs below the top of the thigh, etc.). It was crazy.
Nice try. I believe in medically assisted suicide. When consent is involved it's fine.
I never said all women want to be taped, that was OP I think. I just said, most women fantasise about rape and a surprising number of them orgasm during actual rape.
I've been here awhile pitching your side of it. They don't get it.
Oh my bad, I thought you were OP.
That guy's a fucking retard.
>OP's a retard
Finally, something we can all agree on.
Yes, you've not said anything I disagreed with. It's like a vegan, he might fantasise about a steak and he might salivate if you force one into his mouth, but it doesn't mean he wanted to eat it on the whole.
What it does mean is that part of him, an overruled part, found the idea desirable and the reality pleasurable. But on the whole, he didn't want the burger.
This!
Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah it's some primitive thing. I imagine rape was the primary mode of reproduction at some point in our history and that is super fucked up.
I have mistakened your position. To be fair I was primed by that autist who figured it meant all women want to be raped and then want to send men to jail.
Yeah I just find it strange that we acknowledge all the other instincts we overrule: we know people have to suppress violent urges, sexually aggressive urges in men, etc., and can discuss and accept that. But 99.99% will not accept that there's even an overruled 'part' of women that finds rape arousing. Fuck if I'm ever accused of rape, I'm now fucked because of my IP activity.
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Does this mean I can love watching gay porn but not be gay?
It's a weird life. And yeah it's tough to talk about with most people. A lot of people are sensitive I don't know why.
Okay so as a female I feel I have to reply to this thread.
Yes some of us really enjoy watching forced rough or gang bang porn and get off to it.
Yes I enjoy being chocked to a point, nipples being playing with to a point it hurts, but not to the point I’M scared they are going to rip or bite them of.
Yes I enjoy being with multiable man at once I enjoy being “forced” into this ina controlled situation.
Does this mean I want to be walking down a dark street and have some random drag me away and rip off my clothes fuck no don’t mess with my clothes I haven’t pre determined is fine to wreck, am I okay with possibly any first ass gross dick no, would I be turned on my someone I find feral or unclean, not I’m fucking not going to enjoy that. As I’m not going to enjoy being externally chocked in an uncontrolled situation where I’ll lay there struggleing to breath ruining they are about to kill me and this is the end. No none of what I or any other female enjoys in a controlled siatiation means we want or would enjoy genuine rape you fucking idiots!
Jesus fucking Christ this is some Yea Forums mental gymnastic bullshit. The orgasm during rape is a natural reaction to physical stimulation. Not because they secretly want to be fucked against their will, you gigantic ass clown.
bullshit.
To be fair I think it was really just one guy who doesn't agree with you, and it was clear he doesn't really talk to girls..The rest were just discussing the data that most women enjoy rape fantasy and rough porn..
>this means I want to be walking down a dark street and have some random drag me away and rip off my clothes,fuck
Fixed it for ya, honey..
Only one guy said women want to be taped. But you can't deny that women orgasming during rape means they found it partially pleasurable, even if they view it as horrific on the whole.
Preparation H feels good on the whole, also.
I must be a woman, then.
Well if you fantasise about it and orgasm during it, part of you found the idea desirable and the act pleasurable, even if you didn't actually want it and found the experience awful.
Is it self-insert for women, or do they hate each other so much they get off on watching another woman being abused?
I wasn’t meaning you all thought that, I could clearly see there is some common sense that understand it’s just a fantasy.
Haha thankyou, I reply need to learn to proff read before I post, also maybe not be on here while at work so I’m not typing too fast
I don't know what this means
>Forced sex
>in a safe and consensual environment
Then it's not fucking forced you moron. You literally ruined your OWN arguement
Role plays and fantasy =\= rape stop conflating the two.
How am I doing that?
Ur tarded
You literally just compared the two
You know someone can orgasm without enjoying it at all, it can be a natural thing that occurs by body stimulation and still not feel good even though you reached orgasm...
You must have missed the post above citing evidence from a post-rape counsellor that women orgasm in between 5-50% of actual rape cases. I know 5-50% is an absurdly broad figure.)
Maybe it's sadism, they enjoy watching other women get abused.
How exactly do women realise they've orgasmed if there is no hint of a pleasurable sensation? I've almost had my fill of arguing with delusional regards tonight
Regards kek
And you must have missed the other fucking comments that say an orgasm doesn't mean they enjoyed and/or wanted it. I shove a broom handle far enough up your ass you're going to nut all over yourself and cry like a fucking faggot until you fall asleep. Does that mean you enjoyed it?
Lol what an idiot. Do you go to movies and scream "HEY WAIT THEYRE ACTING!!! NO ONES GETTING SHOT AT ALL!!!"
You don't know what I'm into.
Because you don't need to experience pleasure to have an orgasm. Pleasure is fucking subjective to the person anyway you gigantic retard.
Yes, it would mean I found it partially pleasurable, but I'm sure on the whole I'd find it awful. Which is exactly what I've been saying. Also I don't fantasise about having brooms shoved up my ass, whereas the majority of women do fantasise about being raped. Goodnight, you fucking idiots and cunts, I bequeath this thread to the archive
I'm assuming you huff spray paint
As a women, there is a difference between an orgasm you enjoyed and one that just happen due to stimulation.
Guess you do know what I'm into.
Female orgasm Does not equal male orgasm.
If you let a guy butfuck you till you came, would you figure that to be something you enjoyed?
Of course you do, you're not convincing anyone.
>Partially pleasurable
>KEK
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Toppest of keks. No wonder you're an incel.
No you dont
Yes, if I came it would mean I experienced some degree of pleasure. As I said, it's true by tautology, to orgasm is necessarily to experience some pleasure, despite what mental gymnastics you might perform to extricate the two.
>If you let a guy butfuck you till you came, would you figure that to be something you enjoyed?
Is that a trick question? You do realize you're on b/, right?
I have a girlfriend. Actually I didn't believe any of this stuff until it was all "I want you to choke me, slap me, call me slut, keep going when I say no" etc. Then I looked into it. Ironically when I was single I was completely bluepilled/ignorant of this.
You dont even know what tautology means you complete fuck
I'm sure you do faggot
>sample size, 1 out of 3.8 billion
congrats on the girlfriend bro, although here's a tip from the top: people who actually get laid don't brag when it finally happens
"My gf likes when DeSean calls her slut. I bet all Wyman must secretly love rape."
You're very angry hahaha
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I'm in the army, one of my friends shot someone at Walmart out of self defense, before he joined, he joined after. I guess he wanted more of that thrill, who can say.
He does, he was using it in the sense of logical reasoning you spaz, not just 'repeating yourself'
Different strokes for different folks.
May have also been his way of dealing with the trauma. Some people will hyper engage with an action to try and normalise it to suppress it.
Why a lot of sexually abused kids become pedophiles or highly promiscuous..
Also you could be right. he could have just enjoyed it and wanted to kill more. Who knows?
No shit he's still wrong lmao
Based user has convinced me he's right, gives all the data and drops bombs throughout thread. Bless you, user.
Kek kek kek, they're all having orgasms without any good feelings yes yes very gud
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