What did you turn into an atheist

What did you turn into an atheist
When did it happen ? Why did it happen ?

Family reactions ?

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I grew up in Ireland as a child. Was forced to go to church every week by my mother. Even as a kid i knew it was quite "culty" and weird. Never really bought into it. Eventually moved to Canada and started listening to bands like Tool. Basically lost all hope in religion around 12-13 years old.

nEVER,atheism is evil and wrong

ufff sounds hard.

My family are one of those fake christians, they go to church like twice a year (Christmas and eastern) yet they were super angry the first time i declared i would come with them to kneel there and pretend to pray.

Also all the time i declare that i don't belive or that i am an atheist my mother keeped saying things like "Don't say that" or "aah no you aren't really one".


The older gen. seems to be really brainwashed / or afraid of hell ?
Seems like growing up with the internet made a bigger difference that i would seem at first

My brothers and I had sort of like Sunday classes with a bunch of other kids (I was 11 or 12) at a church. My mom thought it was a good idea bc we were troublesome (likd any kids that age). We didn't wanna go not bc we hated church or anything (we actually went to church every Sunday and were very respectful and well-behaved) but because we just wanted to go home bc it was boring. It started with me asking just a genuine question bc something didn't make sense and I wanted clarification. And they did answer. But their answers were very simple and vague. It left me with more questions and on top of that, the more we read, the more I found inconsistentencies, so did my brothers. And basically they started to dislike us. I know this because we were the most involved and the ones that most payed attention yet they would skip or evade our questions. Instead they would ask us questions about the lesson by the end of it to see if we weren't listening or didn't understand anything. But we answered correctly most of the time. Whenever we asked and they didn't answer satisfactorily we would just drop the question altogether and look at each other and stifle laughter. They were nice people but their failure to address those doubts we had turned me into an atheist and they might've turned some students that were there into atheists or at the very least made them start questioning more.

I didnt ...

I never really "turned into an athiest". For as long as I can remember, even as early as 9 years old, I've always thought religion/god was a bunch of a bullshit.

I'm somewhat open to the possibility of something akin to what we would consider a god since we've only observed a small part of our reality, but in terms of an actual "God"? Ridiculous. There's absolutely no proof that something like God could even exist, in any form.

I was never indoctrinated by my parents cause they weren't that much into brainwashing little children as it seems.

My parents sent me to this little kid cult stuff. Bunch of other kids, Saturday classes, teaching about God and the bible and all that stuff.

At first it was kind of believable, but slowly I began losing my interest in these things. Internet came along, and the more I researched about the bible, the more I found out that it's all just words written on in a 2k year old book, manipulated and changed through the ages to fit some priest's wishes and beliefs.

Then I read parts of bible for what it is, a book, and found out the many inconsistencies and contradictions in it. Lost all my belief in monotheistic religions that day.

>What did you turn into an atheist
I just thought about the whole religion idea and realised how ridiculous it was
>When did it happen ?
I was thinking about it, but ironically it crystallised during a hymn practice at school
>Why did it happen ?
Just woke up and smelt the coffee, I guess

I became an atheist when i reached the age of reason, i cant remember a moment of it happening as it wasnt a big deal for me, it was just the result of being able to think.

The only one still religious in my family is my mom who got it from her mom and she does not make a big deal of it at ALL, all she has done is ask me once if im an atheist (i wasnt hiding it and i guess she found out about it on the internet) so said yes but that was the end of it.
I live in Finland and here being an atheist kind of feels obvious, i dont know anyone that believes in a god and if they do, they never talk about it so how would i even know.

not one day of my life i've been religious, my interest has always been sciences, parents would do terrorism to me and forbid me from doing things but i never bought into their stupid shit, and i love how the most devoted sides of my family never did anything to me, it was the "moderates" who would chimpout, they would do that just to virtue signal to everyone they were good at putting children on a leash

Pretty young, just remember asking my mom if santa, jesus, or the easter bunny, was real. (I think in that order too, which is pretty messed up)

I was 4 when my great grandma died and my mom told me that she was gonna go up to heaven. Since we were the last ones there I told my mom I wanted to watch her go up to heaven. My mom told me i wouldnt be able to see it happen. I believe that is what sparked my doubt. I told my mom when I was 12 that i didnt believe and she lost her shit. Told my grandparents and my family all tried to convince me I was going to hell. I asked my grandma if it was true that if I didnt believe in heaven I couldn't get in. She said yes and I said well I dont believe in heaven or hell so I guess I cant end up in either. Family is very distant with me when it comes to religion. We still talk like a normal family they just try to avoid religion topics. I guess they are scared their kids may see some of my points. I have a daughter that was baptized. I was against it but I'm very open with her that if she doesnt wanna go to church or has any doubts she can talk to me about it. She knows I dont believe.

My daughter is 8 in case anyone cares. She finds it funny to tell the pastor at the church that I dont believe in god

so why are you taking her to the church then?

I'm not her mother is.

oh and she tells you that your daughter likes to tell the pastor at the church that u dont believe in god.
that must be a fun situation for everyone involved.

I didn't really "turn into" an atheist since I was never a theist, but when I actually started thinking about the whole religion thing around age 10 or so I basically went "yeah, this is obviously made up". My parents don't care since they don't believe in gods either. Funny enough, the 'conflict' in my family is that I also don't believe in aliens, while my dad does.

No my daughter tells me that she tells the pastor. I'm a little confused at what you are getting at.

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Jeffrey!

>became an adult
>started acting like one
That's it.

When you say you don't belive in aliens, do you mean you don't believe they ever visit(ed) Earth, or do you belive there is no life outside our planet?

im not getting at anything, just trying to understand what you are saying, you werent really clear on who is saying what and who is taking her to church or what happens after she tells the pastor that and why she does it repeatedly, or does she.

It's not that I believe there is no life outside our planet so much as I don't believe there is. The probability of there being life somewhere else in the universe is high, but that is not evidence of there actually being life somewhere else in the universe. The time to believe is when evidence of such life is discovered.

Of course, I also don't believe they have ever visited earth, while my dad believes in all sorts of things like the Annunaki.

>evidence of such life is discovered
You’re the fucking evidence you dolt. You think our species is so fucking special that onle WE were able to evolve and mutate to have self awareness and “intelligence”? I think the fact that a fucking shitty soecies like ours managed to do this, then it’s undeniable that others have also done so, and more than likely a lot better than we have.

If you mean a liberal atheist that have a premium account on dawkins website and watches all these pathetic attention whores on youtube that tries to trigger christfags, then never. Sorry, i'm not into cults

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>am Norwegian
>not a lot of people are religious here
>religion was never a part of mine or my parents life

What about polytheistic religions? This is a new and interesring point of view.

>You’re the fucking evidence you dolt
We are evidence that life exists on this planet, not on others.
>You think our species is so fucking special that onle WE were able to evolve and mutate to have self awareness and “intelligence”?
No.
>I think the fact that a fucking shitty soecies like ours managed to do this, then it’s undeniable that others have also done so, and more than likely a lot better than we have.
It's easily deniable as there is no evidence for it. It's not just that I don't believe there is other intelligent life out there, it's that I don't believe there is other life out there period.

why do people mostly see this as an on/off-situation ?
-believer vs atheist ?

I consider myself being more like an agnostic, my belief does not require a church nor preachers, my deities don't need drawn forms

So what you’re saying is that you’re willingly making yourself ignorant and putting yourself in a safe position so that you can somewhat think, but not too much as to be called out for anything. Like the rest of humanity, you’re in denial and loving it.

Do you think belief without evidence is justified?

Because it is an on/off situation. You either believe in at least one god or you don't.

Yeah kid, when there is no proof of one then it must be temporaily and we need to respect everybody who believes in it without evidence, but when there is no proof for other, then we need to literaly wipe it from earth, because we are a dicks and hypocrites. Just admit that you want to fight with everybody that dissagrees with you because they tell you its wrong to jack off to kiddy porn till your penis will not get bloody. Atheists are literaly a brainlet cherry-picking niggers, nothing else. Shame.

Because there is no option between "i believe A" and "i dont believe A".
What baffles me is people who misrepresent atheism only because they are scared of what believers might do to them if they associate with just associate with atheists whether or not they call themselves atheists.

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lol wut. no just ppl that arent gullible af

No. I’m saying that possibilities lead to discoveries. You’re the type kf asshat that has stifled knowledge and progress. For every one person who says “We should go to outer space” there’s a thousand of you with your “Why? There’s no evidence we’ll find anything.” Except, unlike you, others use religion and belief to stifle it whereas you use short sightedness and the belief that you need to actually see something to consider it. That’s why this planet is going to cause our extinction because assholes like you say “I DON’T SEE ANYTHING BAD HAPPENING SO IT’S OBVIOUSLY WRONG” until all life starts to end. Then that’s when your kind goes “Okay!! Now we need to do something because I seent it!!!” But it’s too fucking late there, isnt it? Keep walking with your eyes closed and make humanity proud.

noice high ground mate

What utter nonsense. Being skeptical does not stifle knowledge and progress. If you say "We should go to outer space" then I say "Okay, we don't know what's out there. Let's find out."

If anything, coming to a conclusion before there is evidence is what stifles knowledge and progress, as you will stubbornly cling to your unjustified belief even when the evidence shows you to be wrong.

Then why atheists are so sure about nonexistence after death while agnostics admit that they don't know ? Its like saying that best ice creams are in wallmart but i never was there. Theists and atheists claim they know what happen after death, while agnostics admit they don't know. Sorry for putting a metal stick into your gears of lie. And no, even if your childish chart invented to attack everybody that dissagrees with everybody that dissagree with you is true then you aren't agnostic one anyway. A true agnostic wouldn't be such a douche as all these ultra-progressive atheist kids in internet are

Is that a boston accent?
Nice trips

>Then why atheists are so sure about nonexistence after death while agnostics admit that they don't know ?
Your question makes unjustified assumptions. Not all atheists claim to know what happens after death.

Nice argument mate

was about to say the same, the question is loaded.
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Having that belief is not required to be an atheist, it is irrelevant and i find that question to be dishonest.

im agnostic atheist, the terms are not mutually exclusive and i would guess you too are an agnostic atheist.

i know more atheists who would bend over backwards to help someone and i know "Christians" who wouldnt give you a dollar. thats when i decided that all you Christians are full of shit. do what you want to do you dont need god telling you how to do it

Pathetic.

atheists 2006
>fuck your god and everybody who dissagrees with me. i'm sure he doesn't exist and when you die you will just rot in grave

atheists 2016
>umm, i'm actualy was a agnostic all time, despite being absolutely sure about non-existence of god

Are you so sure about that ? Go visit /r/atheism and say "there might be god and afterlife !". Lets see how these non-biased agnostics will answer to you

assblasted.

I was raised in a godless household--my dad was a quasi-Marxist college professor who was openly contemptuous of religion (almost Dawkins-level irritating, but only if someone got him started), and my mom grew up poor in the South, where her family went to a church that spoke in tongues and handled snakes. So she got scared away from/turned off of religion at an early age. But she still believes in some kind of God, I think.

So my atheism came very naturally.

ur assblasted

Not an argument.

No. I and i never will be a atheist. And there is no such thing as "agnostic atheist". Atheism is a conviction that there is no God
Then what ? You are presenting only opinions here.

the idea of a god or a pantheon of gods has always sounded pretty stupid to me.

I hope none of you brainlets were actually convinced by a shitty cartoon.

I never get into religion. I find it to be stupid.

I do too. I never was religious, but all this youtube shit is ridiculous and makes irreligious people look like douches

>Atheism is a conviction that there is no God
Not him, but that is not how I define atheism, so we are talking about two different things.
>You are presenting only opinions here.
Can you show how not believing in gods necessarily means that you know what happens after death?

Its the reverse for me & i don't even believe. Atheists like myself are some of smelliest, selfish pieces of shit to ever roam the earth

>No. I and i never will be a atheist. And there is no such thing as "agnostic atheist". Atheism is a conviction that there is no God
whats not how atheists define atheism and if when i say im an atheist you repeatedly demand that im convinced there is no god then you are being incredibly dishonest and closeminded.
Words can me used in more than 1 way and the entire atheist community defines it as someone who is not convinced there is a god, basically you are an atheist if you are not a theist, there is no middle ground.

If you dont believe there is a god then you are an atheist and how you define the word has absolutely nothing to do with it, all that changes is wether you call yourself an atheist or not.

Good job on being open minded need more people like u.

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And this is why ignorance is abound on this planet. I bet that if you were in the village with the first viking explorer, you’d be the asshole that said “What?! You want to cross the OCEAN?! There’s no evidence that there’s any land out there whatsoever! I’m not going until I see it!!” But you’re absolutely right about one thing. Coming to a CONCLUSION before there is evidence stifles knowledge. That’s true. That’s why i like to cling to possibilities and search out answers than stand here saying “Until I see it... until I see it.... until I see it...”

Name one of these famous atheist that believed/believes in afterlife. No, even better, name ONE fucking atheist that do.

believed? you can find plently, im guessing you didnt mean that.

Your question is irrelevant.

Not the same person, but why are you even bothering arguing over this? This is the same bullshit that feminists try to pull when they say "if you believe in equality, you're a feminist".

You guys remind me of that southpark episode where atheists have a "holy"-like war even though they basically believe the same thing.

Name one. I'm waiting. And i wonder how all these tolerant atheists take his disbelief in atheist doctrine

I learned about evolution in middle school, made sense. My family was never religious. The biggest thing that influenced me was my ability to understand why people act the way they do, and I noticed all basic human actions stem from instinctual practices. For example, its easier to get girls in the fall, almost like mating season. Furthermore, c sections are becoming more and more common almost as if we are slowly losing the need for natural births. It just makes sense compared to an invisible sky god. Also, i believe if there is/was a god, they wouldn't judge humanity for their actions in life.

>divine revelation

shiiieet

Your ocean thing is just your space thing restated, and my response is the same. "We don't know what's across the ocean, so let's find out."

Holding a belief means you have come to a conclusion. From the very beginning, I said that it was probable that there is alien life out there, which means I think it is a possibility, but I won't believe they actually exist without evidence. Your ranting is nonsensical.

Holy fuck. Numbers of truth ! And yeah, these atheiniggers are too close-minded to take anything new. Just like robots

>why are you even bothering arguing over this?
because im not one of those faggots who just scrolls for pictures of traps.
maybe i like to argue?

When I was a teenager I was really religious and one day took on the task of reading the whole Bible.

That about did it... Pic related..

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fucking almost every atheist on the planet used to believe at some point, me included, but i obviously wasnt an atheist at the time.

As i assumed. Name one loud and proud atheist that does. You can't ?

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an atheist who believes in the afterlife?
thats a little contradictory dont you think? i dont know a single one, i never said i did.

So many religious, so many gods ,
So many choices ,
Well not really I’m sure over 90% will only be offered or taught the local religion, or of the parents religion, so just by chance you happen to believe in the one in a hundred that just happens to be popular in your area .
And all the others are wrong .
So any believer is also a non believer in the other religions.

If I don’t believe then we are the same for all those other 100 religions, I just don’t believe in your 1 as well , so we are 99% the same .

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Technically it isn't, but that dude is just moving the goalposts anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Born an atheist. Stayed that way. As a child I was forced to go to boring church every week. It was torture. All I did was daydream about Star Trek TNG and A Team.

The bible tells us God is real, then atheists CLAIM they know that GOD DOES NOT EXIST. Where is the evidence? Whatever happened to your precious burden of proof?

Honestly you can't just DECIDE arbitrarily that God does not exist and then pretend as if you're not DRAWING CONCLUSIONS before you have any EVIDENCE.

thats why i said a little lol
i just want to know where he is going with this.

It's obvious that "where he's going" is full troll or full retard.

>atheists CLAIM they know that GOD DOES NOT EXIST
i dont know a single atheist that claims that.

Prove to me that Zeus, Apollo Aphrodite, and Brahman don't exist and I'll use your method...

That's the thing, you seem to think we're somehow flawed for "arbitrarily assuming" good doesn't exist, but we've only done that with one more out of thousands of God's than you.

You're the one making the claim, the burden of evidence is on you. And I literally impossibly cant prove to you it isn't real because you *can't prove a negative*. Proving a negative Is an actual paradox, which, by the way, makes it an extremely intellectually cowardly argument on your part.

Thanks for admitting i'm right
Yes, of course i forgot. Atheists knows everything, and everybody who doesn't agree with them is either retard or troll. Sorry, mr-i-know-everything. Everybody who is not a atheist zombie that agrees with everything their mastermind says is a retard or troll.

Not everybody, but certainly you.

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I became an atheist around 11 when my mother died. Or at least I said I did, I was just furious but I never stopped behaving with dignity. When my father died, I held his hand and said the lords prayer. It doesn't matter what exists or what doesn't, just that we can choose to be good, and any God I would want to serve will recognise that.

If not, then there is nothing for me to do but to exist - and why would anyone choose to think like that, a surefire way to become weak and/or disaffected with life.

>why do people mostly see this as an on/off-situation ?

Because it is absolutely true. You either pray to a god or you don't. Pick one.

i too can just claim some obvious stuff and then laugh when i was right.
so what was the point of all this?

this is so bad its actually funny and i bet whoever made it had that intention, so its well made.

>You're the one making the claim
I did not make the claim. It was you, the ATHEIST who makes the extraordinary claim that you know for a FACT that God DOES NOT exist.

Idk used to be somewhat religious when yonger only because I didn't think about it, then i realized I don't need any religion amd that I should read science instead of falling for religious dogma. The whole familly is religious tho and they think I will go back to it when I settle down or something top kek

you are trying a little too hard there, calm down, its just Yea Forums.

No one claims to know for a fact good doesn't exist. You dumbasses think this is a doctrine to us and we walk around all day every day repeating to ourselves chants of nothingness.

We don't. We don't think of it at all. It's entirely relevant. We mind our lives making no claims and giving it second thought.

Because we don't care and arent convinced by your evidence we should.
I literally only think at all about whether or not god exists when one of you faggots bring it up.

>question dawkins and hitchens

That's funny. I have debated a lot of theists. None of them have ever read Dawkins or Hitchens, much less refute a single word either of them has ever written. Here you go, theist. Refute this.

“What has theology ever said that is of the smallest use to anybody? When has theology ever said anything that is demonstrably true and is not obvious? I have listened to theologians, read them, debated against them. I have never heard any of them ever say anything of the smallest use, anything that was not either platitudinously obvious or downright false.

If all the achievements of scientists were wiped out tomorrow, there would be no doctors but witch doctors, no transport faster than horses, no computers, no printed books, no agriculture beyond subsistence peasant farming. If all the achievements of theologians were wiped out tomorrow, would anyone notice the smallest difference?"

Richard Dawkins, The Emptiness of Theology.

>making no claims
That's a logical impossibility.

When surrounded by all of God's miracles every day of your life and His word delivered to you in the Holy Bible. Your BELIEF that God DOES NOT EXIST is an ACTIVE CLAIM in antithesis to the baseline reality of daily life. You, the ATHEIST has attempted to overthrow the accepted model of reality with your extra ordinary claims. Without EVIDENCE! That's just not good science.

This is the problem with your kind. You claim to be so logical and intelligent while at the same time rejecting BASIC logic just to serve your beliefs.

My mother got really sick when I was 5. I remember that I prayed as hard as I could but not a single sign or message of this being called god. I mean, c'mon, in the moment I was so pure and the church taught me that god listen to the kids. My mother died the next day and no answer to my prays at all. That day I understand that everything was a lie and the life is a matter of luck also that humanity is fragile and never cry for my dead relatives since then somehow I got the idea that death is a some kind of liberation and not the end and that really fucks up a 5yo kid. Oh and always wondered why we have to fear to god and it's anger if supposedly it's our father or creator, gave us the free will but have to live under its rules anyway? It doesn't have sense it's like " go live your life meet the world, you're a free slave but still you're MY slave" really?

>When surrounded by all of God's miracles every day of your life and His word delivered to you in the Holy Bible. Your BELIEF that God DOES NOT EXIST is an ACTIVE CLAIM in antithesis to the baseline reality of daily life. You, the ATHEIST has attempted to overthrow the accepted model of reality with your extra ordinary claims. Without EVIDENCE! That's just not good science.
>antithesis to the baseline reality of daily life

kek i believe in god but DAMN you're a faggot

>Its evil because its against my belief

So anyone who doesnt follow your dogma is evil? The one with a problem in here its you

When you meet God I bet he calls you a virgin and laughs at you.

I personally never thought the "they cant all be right so they're all wrong" argument was a good one. It's TRUE they xant be 100% correct in each case, but the fact that they all have very similar aspects makes me think they could all be like 5% true. Since human beings never had a finished and complete understanding of life and the world, it's not unlikely that the religions were recounting experiences with things and phenomena that they couldn't explain so they call it gods, but if we look back at these things they describe through our modern understandings, it seems that a lot of the miracles they talk about could have been real, they just aren't "magic".

I find it likely that some outside influence happened and people worshipped it. It's more constructive to think about it like this then just "IT IS/ISNT TRUE"

>Holy Bible

Another guy here. The Bible is retarded. It is so bad that 99% of christians don't even read it. Bible morals are so horrible even christians don't follow them. Nor should they. Yahweh is a barbaric savage, Jesus is a pacifist hippie. The Bible goes to both stupid extremes.

>You, the ATHEIST has attempted to overthrow the accepted model of reality

Your Bible "reality" is geocentrism, Adam and Eve and Noah's ark. Good for atheists for throwing them in the trash hundreds of years ago. Are you a flat Earther?

That sound like you believe in Chadium, the Archangel of the Chads, because god would never make fun of its people, unless you people claim that because ITS HUMAN MADE.

Nihilism is more a honest fall from faith. Atheists are whiny little faggots.

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

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You just called yourself a "whiny little faggot", you retard.

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Nihilism is an important place to visit, but I really don't think you should stay there fampai. Nihilism works best as a puzzle instead of an ethos.

i'd consider myself a nihilist, i just dont live by it as that wouldnt make much sense.
Yeah nothing REALLY matters and there is no grand purpose, but so what?

So, you have been given the best gift of all, the gift of choice. Choose to be great, user.

Oh I know that, its just that god has never been a chad

>but muh miracles

Jesus got help from god because he was a HUMAN, making a deludge and killing almost all life on earth isint chad either, thats edgy, Satán was edgier so he got punished because only god has the right to be edgy.

What I find funny is that today is all the way around, Chads follow the edgy god and the edgy boys are now atheists

You just sound like a massive fag to me

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