Daily reminder: Socialism has never worked in the history of mankind. Not once

except in every single family unit, unless you play favorites with your children

A political philosophy that consists solely of coveting your neighbours' possessions is a pretty crappy philosophy. Why is it any of your business what someone else owns?

i don't think so user.

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Daily reminder that OP is a faggot

No pure political or economic system has ever worked. How do you define worked anyway? Hasn’t collapsed for 100 years? 500?

The right brand has never been tried in her specific way before, so odds are it will work better, right?

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You are talking about things that are not even directly related to the topic at hand.
People who do good business sure should be compensated for their work. And yet most of the companies you seem to talk about hardly ever pay any taxes. Kind of unfair when even Johnny from around the corner who is poor as fuck has to pay his part.

Ask amazon, Alphabet (Google), Microsoft, etc. to pay for schools and infrastructure then.

Spic lady dumb as dirt

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>full

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What reminder is this?
Stupidity has never worked either

>You're posting from a device that required millions of dollars of research and innovation.
that's funny because a lot of the research for computers and internet came from where?

>implying there aren't varying degrees as if it was on a linear scale

>A paycheck for people that don't feel like working.
I was at work yesterday, and I could have sworn we were already doing that.

One, you're arguing that a larger government would be a more efficient means of production and innovation. None of my experience has led me to believe that government oversight or control promotes either of those or equality of outcome for individuals. So maybe we live in different planets.
Does a state owned bakery in soviet controlled Czechoslovakia elevate the living standard of people more than a private biomed company developing new medical procedures?
Socialism is great for robbing a populous of its value through work. Capitalism is great at robbing a populous of its value through work BUT we get iPhones and hip replacements out of it.

How old are you?

You seem to not realize that Trickle-Down had literally nothing to do with that device being made? Rich people would have still invested money into advancing technology.

Would it have been a little slower? Maybe. But i'd take slower progress over people dying every day from lack of food, housing, and medical care.

the military. we wouldn't have silicon valley, the C language, unix or the internet without the military.

i see what you're trying but technically, even a totalitarian or communist government would have accomplished what you're talking about. it would take some capitalism to cause the race to develop better home computers, but if they had a vision of what we have now in 1950, it would have been done to further the economy; give the nation an information age, make them all smarter, let them have massive commerce, etc. very good shit.

Oh really now? The electricity they run on was obviously invented without public tax dollars. Oh that was socialism?

Hmm, well the cell towers must have been.... Socialism too you say?

Well surely the internet...also public tax dollars?

But at least the actual phone is....covered by tax breaks to Apple and Samsung?

But muh capitalism!

China is doing fine.

>it would take some capitalism to cause the race to develop better home computers,
no, it was a race between capitalism and "communism" that was the basis for it user. not the market.

Are you trolling or just plain retarded?
Again something that is not related to what I even said.
I suggest you go back to school and enjoy your non free education. Then you might be able to accomplish the simple task of read and comprehend.

The state is efficient for providing some things and not efficient for others.

Schools, prisons, military, law enforcement, emergency services such as EMS and fire departments. Those are all things that do worse for the majority under privatization. The minority might benefit but the majority suffer.

On the other hand government doesn’t do well at market controls such as import and export tariffs, wage limits such as minimum wage, subsidizing failing industries. Again these benefit the minority while hurting the majority.

i can agree that capitalism made it happen but that's why i added the concept of having a vision of now 70 years ago. even 50 years ago, they didn't think people needed a powerful computer because they couldn't comprehend wanting 8gb of ram.

here's a good one... go back in time 70 years and talk to hollywood and the government.

"what if i told you... in 2018, there's something called a "video game industry" and it made 150 billion dollars. the film industry is fucking amazing, and requires the same technology but on a larger, more carefully crafted scale to create any virtual image imaginable and our nation is the best at it but still, stupid video games for losers make three times as much. they use computers that will take a long time to adopt and if you realize they need to be advanced NOW, they could be twice as good by then and give a life experience you could never imagine" and show them a bluray in 4K of a documentary of what it's like today.

The tech to make phones and computers came from government research not private investment. Private investors took the ball and ran but the space race and wars are why we have tech. The space race was something only a government can accomplish since there is little opportunity for profit in the beginning and large possibly if loss in the long run. This is evidenced by the fact that private companies are just now achieving what government achieved 60 years ago

but user, you are forgetting that the driving force in research for computers is still the gub'ment.

>Thinks minimum wage is a bad thing
wew lad love retards. If we had no minimum wage we'd be paid 5 dollars an hour or less. Anyone who thinks that companies wouldn't just do that is fucking retarded.

Fuck that bitch vote for

Vote for Andrew yang

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xuan kye has 50 apples
lihuye myong has 30 apples
how many apples kim jong un have?
trick question!
kim jong un have all the apples!!

I'm for full communism.

Ralph Northam supports abortion rights for minorities.

Wow you are full so much shit

cool story, are you a sitting congressperson?

i swear by my life, and my love of it, that i will never live for another man nor ask him to live for mine

>(You) I'm a full retard.
move to Red China, Pinko.

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>TFw you survive of medicare and medicaid, but forget that they were both considered socialists plots against the american people when they were implemented

Left creates nothing. Original memes included.
They can only take what others create, and redistribute it.

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Oh they certainly would. I didn’t say minimum wage wouldn’t hurt those on minimum wage I said it’s a poor way to manage an employee economy. Supply and demand drive all things in the market. This applies to labor as well. If there is an abundance of one skill (cashier) than wages go down since there are so many. If there is a shortage of a skill(doctors in rural communities) wages should go up since there is more competition for that talent.

The number of people willing to do a job should be equal to the number of positions open. The market accomplishes this by lowering wages for low demand jobs until the number of people willing to do it at that price is equal to the number of open positions. The same for high demand jobs. The market raises wages to get more people interested in the job, say moving from Dallas to Idaho to be a doctor.

China isn’t full communist

Right takes credit for others memes. Small percent of right creates memes, all of right claims credit.

That’s communist folks

I've found everyone that complains about capitalism is too stupid to invest their money. If you invested in these big companies you seem to hate so much, you'd be rich too.

well said

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You mean that prosperous time after the new deal in which the economy soared and marginal tax rates were up to 90%? Apparently you don’t know what you’re talking about.

By artificially raising wages you create more competition for that job and therefore the low skilled person who would have gotten it at $5 due to less competition will lose out to a higher skilled person at $12 due to more competition. Minimum wage laws make it harder for the poor to get jobs and therefore is bad for the poor

Don't sprain yourself on those mental gymnastics, junior.

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the new deal was a farce and and a disappointment

Daily reminder that OP still lives at home and makes under $30,000 yet still thinks the govt is going to take their money.

neither has capitalism

But neither does free market capitalism. If there was no government support for fire departments than poor peoples houses would burn down because they couldn’t afford to pay for fire protection. This would lead to fire departments having to lower their prices as the demand would be low. Less departments would exist and therefore rich peoples houses would burn down as well.

The answer isn’t one or the other. It’s let each side do what they do best and have a mix of socialist and capitalist policies.

Did you create that meme?

edit- OP wants Gov to take my money and buy him tendies

How much research have you put into this theory of yours, cum bubble?

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Nothing has worked. Every system ever has failed. Just because this system has worked for a couple of hundred years doesn’t mean it will work forever. The romans existed as a plutocracy with strict social status for over a thousand years and then they collapsed. This system will too and probably not too far in the future

Define working
We never reached utopia with something else either, and utopia is the only thing that is objectivley working, everything else is something in-between working and failed

I know you didn’t create that meme

the USA should send not 1$ of foreign aid absent a treaty ratified by the senate. prove me wrong

That’s not what we are talking about. Stop sabotaging the conversation

This conversation has died anyway. The enemy of a Yea Forums thread entered. Rational well thought out arguments. Kills the tread everytime

>the USA should send not 1$ of foreign aid
does that include for israel?

I want global productivity to go down tho

it’s a misuse of taxpayer (public) wealt being distributed to non citizen nations. how is that not in line with a socialist redistributive agenda? still waiting for a reason this is acceptable

we should indeed have a treaty with israel

I agree with you but it’s not socialist since the foreign company is not part of the society. Socialism is government control of production not sending money to people out side of the society.

yeah it's called the fourth geneva convention, which they keep breaking.

We do. That’s why our funding of their breaking of the Geneva Conventions is fucked it but legal

Twinsies

>country not company
But you can’t get mad with welt right?

i agree however the fact that private wealth can be confiscated, amassed, and redirected in a manner not dependent on the wishes of the creator of said wealth is in fact a marxist ideal and one that should be exposed

kek

your whole side never created anything but famine and economic colapse

There is no difference between democratic socialism and socialism. AOC actually said capitalism is a failed experiment.

Shes a moron.

>There is no difference between democratic socialism and socialism
one has an extra word.

Don't give a shit, someone please post that picture with her and "I'm just here for her tits" or something

Trickle down ALWAYS works. ALWAYS.

Ruskies workin overtime in this thread, funny how y'all put away the hammer and sickle and suddenly the rich people are cool with you guys.

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>sorrycantnewgreentext

A rising tide lifts all boats!

>democratic socialism
political system
>socialism
economic system

FYIGM the post

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Puerto Rican lady says capitalism is a "failed experiment".

Every government that embraces it, its people flourish like never before.

Every government that embraces socialism, its people dint even have toilet paper, but hey, they are skinny because there is no food.

Hurr durr Sweden! Norway! They arent capitalist, right? Fucking morons.

Actually, no.

so you could live and work(?) in a socialist economy and vote for the things your government will take from you to support those who, rightly so, refuse to contribute the fruits of their labor when an even result is guaranteed? huh

i'm saying that there is a difference between socialism and democratic socialism.

you sir are a child

theft and sanctioned theft

SMH, you are such a colossal dumb fuck.

These things exist because of the profit motive. Period.

you sir are retarded, your argument is similar to "a square and a rectangle are the same thing".

What is an $800,000 medical bill under capitalism, then?

>These things exist because of the profit motive. Period.
not really user. they exist due to the fact they could be used for security. Quantum computers are going to be for what? profit isn't the reason the government has been throwing cash at it.

Someone sees socialism everywhere!

A child understands why socialism doesn't work.

It always leads to the same thing. Misery and loss of freedom.

China is doing much much better as they've embraced capitalism for their economy.

did you actually just value being skinny?

look, in proper nations, being skinny isn't really that attractive. it's just normal. they would look for other things that demonstrate good care of one's body. personally, a girl can go from 10/10 to 9/10 if she has no noticeable calves and looks like she's just laid around all her life.

either way... sex is much freer in northern and eastern europe. it's only western european repression that made it that special and ceremonial and body form that important because of our excess and depravity due to having such splendor.

ok einstein. which system would you prefer? one in which you have the freedom to find your passion, cultivate it into a profession and reap the benefits of a demand for your creation;
or a world where you are pasted into a niche based on your test scores where you have no recourse to seek your own creativity ?

i prefer the way where no one has to lie to try to sway me. both systems are garbage user.

ridiculous inflation based on regulations impossible to meet

Not only do those essential services suffer when privatized, the employees suffer as well.

I'm in law enforcement I can tell you that the only thing that keeps me performing at my job is my paycheck. Private sector examples of my career would have me literally making less than half what I make now.

Also, being a sworn law enforcement officer gives me tools to do my job better. If an inmate throws shit on me, I am going to beat the fucking brakes off of him and then I am going to charge him with assault on a police/peace officer and obstruction of governmental administration. If I was doing the same job without law enforcement status I could do none of those things so the only thing preventing these kind of incidents is relying on a criminals goodwill.

what is garbage about finding your own thing? that thing that sets you apart? i’m not even trying to troll i really believe we each have something in us that makes us special

the current state of america. fuck I love this country

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you’ve just reinforced every bad stereotype of a dickhead cop

>what is garbage about finding your own thing
the fact that you think everyone can "find their own thing" in the current state we are in.
> i’m not even trying to troll
nor am i user, capitalism turn into cronyism isn't helping anyone but the ones who have capital currently.

How is it that people can claim socialism didn't work? Every system works. They're all flawed but they still all work. Capitalism works, socialism works, fascism works, dictatorships work, oligarchies work, plutocracies work, like seriously, every type of controlling the population withh economics works.

WE ARE ALREADY SOCIALIST YOU FUCKING DIMWIT

THE DIFFERENCE IS, INSTEAD OF PROPPING UP CORPORATIONS WE WOULD PROP UP OUR PEOPLE.

The thought that America is 100% Capitalist is a FUCKING JOKE. Remember the bank bailouts? Remember the automotive bailouts?

HURR DURR those all happened under Bush.

You're a fucking idiot.

4783461
Our country prospered under Socialist movements that came out of the Great Depression you fucking idiot.

Our middle class is slowly being whittled away and you dumbfucks sit on here and act like it's the best thing ever to give huge bailouts and tax deductions to people who don't need it.

Trickle down only works when you force it BY TAXING THE FUCK OUT OF THE RICH

um, no? how many truly socialist, or capitalist countries for that matter, are there? None, all are a mixture. Capitalism has evolved into plutocracy btw, atleast in murrica, but most countries in europe are capitalist countries with socialist influences

If free market capitalism doesn't work, how did we get this far as one of the wealthiest nations on the planet?

the fact is the choices we make do have real world consequences. some can be overcome but some will be too far reaching and prohibiting to move past. if this is your experience i am sorry however your mistakes are not my fiscal responsibility

Imagine a world where we give tax breaks only to private companies who show a demonstrable record of passing their profits onto their average workers, user.

yeah, have you considered how much debt your country has, huh? take that into account and you are not the wealthiest

the fact is, most of it doesn't have to even do with YOUR personal choices user. that's the true illusion of the "capitalism" we live in.

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Trickle down doesnt exist. Its a meme made by the left to make conservatives who push supply side economics look bad because the left dont understand economics

wat? say that again without autism

hmm well i chose a field in which i had a proficiency, there would always be a demand, and wage level would always rise.

until the field goes defunct like coal mining did. what then?

Daily reminder: tax cuts for the rich has never worked in the history of mankind. Not once.

>hmm well i chose a field

I hope you chose a field where basic grade-school punctuation doesn't matter.

in other words my shit didn’t just drop onto my golden spoon i fucking cultivated a career i could be proud of and support a family

crane operator. good luck getting anything on earth built without us

if everyone would chose proficient field, it would get oversaturated and wages would still go down. also, who would be doing those low proficiency jobs?

>there would always be a demand, and wage level would always rise.

Patently false based on simple economics, no matter what the job.

robots obviously

Actually it has, check out the booming economy we've had since since the early 80s.

ever heard of automation?

Fuck the bailouts. Fuck government picking winners and losers. I'm against corporate welfare just as much as personal welfare.

I don't care who was President (and I guess Congress are just innocent bystanders lol) it needs to stop.

National Socialism worked in Germany. The Third Reich was defeated by war not economics.

that level of control and micro corrections won’t happen in any of our lifetimes

but yes tech could someday replace me

Capitalism isnt ideal but still better than socialism

hahaha
>good luck getting energy without us t. coalminer

>crickets

Actually, there is a very strong case to be made that the National Recovery Act made things worse, with price and wage controls, and that the recovery would have happened much faster without it.

And your emotional appeal to TAX THE FUCK OUT OF "THE RICH" feels great to shout while waving your fist in the air, but it implies that "the rich" just hoard money without spending it and infusing the economy (you do know how money works, right?) and that those angels in the government will spend it more effectively to help everyone, both of which are fallacious and naive assertions.

Source

Sorry big words confuse you. I think maybe that poster has moved on tho.

for sure the energy sector is one of our biggest customers. we love coal!!

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i guess i should explain to you that all it takes is an economic downturn for your labor market to get over saturated with people willing to do the fewer jobs for less money. what then?

supermegakek

Because of the socialist policies strangling us, thanks socialism for taking my money and creating debt!

except most or those looking for work are bad at the work and i am not

>ignores defense budget
>it's all because socialism!

Scandinavia seems to have been running quite nicely these past 60-70 years.
Open elections, social medicine and free education. A guaranteed pension once you're in your latter 60's - free speech, open press, high standard of living etc.
You really should look outside your own country and not ingest too much fox news.

Pic unrelated.

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>except most or those looking for work are bad at the work and i am not
user, everyone likes to think they're indispensable, don't let that cloud you from a backup plan, because a downturn is coming.

Not once.
Notnce.
Nonce.

You're a nonce.

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Why doesn't the left just do what the right did last election?
Have a front man than panders to the stupid masses. saying any dumb shit that will make them vote for you, then go and do whatever the fuck you want.
The stupid will always fall victim to the best liar, regardless of whether or not that liar actually has the countries best interest in mind.
Lie and tell them what they want to hear, then do what is actually best for everyone.
Its what the republicans do, but you know, actually helping the country and not just the rich.

idiot, without government bailouts in 2008 you would be a 3rd world country now

AOC exposing what is wrong with campaigning promises, and accepting money from huge companies.
If you are against this being exposed and eliminated, you are either in the .01%, or are an idiot and a traitor.

youtu.be/lFhgXP2lze4?t=38

Lrn2norway fgt pls

Lol literally this. Bro your job will be one of the first thats automated.

>ignores the 60% rate of immigrants on welfare

I would like to see the defense budget cut, I don't agree with Trump adding, was it 5% more in his proposal? I want him to hack away at the government and get rid of most of the regulations raising costs on everybody.

>government bailouts are good! I haven't ever heard of the great depression!

We're going to be a 3rd world country if we don't do something about the immigration, we don't need more people in the country, thats why after the industrial revolution we went like 40 years without much if any of it. But suddenly we're like "we can sustain constantly raising the cost of housing, while simultaneously artificially depressing wages by bringing in a bunch of people constantly!"

>>ignores the 60% rate of immigrants on welfare
reduced lunch prices are considered welfare in those studies. you want to use that same method to find what % of whites are on welfare?

let alone they are b& from receiving any of those benefits for 5 years?

>there are more whites than there are blacks/Mexicans
>more whites being on welfare is supposed to be a shock

Hmmm

Of non-citizen households receiving welfare, 93 percent have at least one worker, as do 76 percent of native households receiving welfare
hmm

>lies on the internet

You wanna actually do research? I love hearing about how the majority of a country, which could support itself entirely without immigration, is somehow taking more than their fair share. Oh user, 40% of all people in america on welfare are White? Lemme do some math, oh.. wait, uh huh, yeah I did the math, and 40% is less than 63% so they're still under representing themselves when it comes to that, good try though. Tell me about that 70% "right wing" terrorism though.

>implying anyone but /pol/aks give a shit what color the freeloaders are.

You mean those laws that are laws but aren't enforced? It'd be pretty nice if we actually did that but because most immigration isn't white its now "racist" because something like 88% of immigration is non-white to tell all those non-whites that we aren't going to give them free shit.

It isn't about the color, its about the countries demographics, if if was 1960 and the country was 88% white, but you're shocked that more whites are on welfare, more whites are committing crimes, etc, then you're only looking at one number and a single number isn't going to tell you anything, it just feeds a bias.

got anything else besides racebaiting?

I'm biased against government handouts for those unwilling to work.
Unable is a different story.

>Its race baiting because it implies that we treat non-whites differently than whites

it's racebaiting because you're saying they won't enforce it just because they're not white user.

They're also killing themselves at an explosive rate

The point is, if you look at it instead of just as raw numbers, and use per-capita, which is the only legitimate way of comparing groups, whites are severely under-representing themselves in receiving government aid, but because there are what, 6 whites for every 2 hispanics, 1 black, and 1 asian, of course theres going to be more whites in raw numbers in *ALMOST* everything in our country, that's called a MAJORITY

China...the soon to be the biggest economy in da world

When she says that capitalism is irredeemable that’s a round about way of saying we need full on socialism.

no, that's an assumption of what she means user.

China is a socialist country.

They why don't they enforce there laws, and why do leftists call it "racist" when they do?

Ask yourself this: Do you think ICE is racist? Do you think the wall is racist? If so, congratulations! You've proven user's point. If not, then congrats on actually behind a free-thinker, and we appreciate your good faith contribution to this discussion.

It'll happen because they have such a large population the moment they take full on capitalism, I don't care if we aren't the biggest economy, I don't get why people have issues with that, if they're going to get their population, on a percentage basis as productive as ours, they'll have an economy like 6 or 7 times the size of ours or some shit.

>They why don't they enforce there laws
idk, state choice? isn't that the thing you guys are haam about?
>ice racist
nah
>wall racist
a bit

equal opportunity =\=equal outcome

Okay. Why do I care what color the people are who use their EBT card to get food while buying 4K TVs?
Why do I care that an easily-gameable system that incentivizes abuse and fraud is predominantly abused by one color or another?

BAD GOYIM.

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>Daily reminder: Socialism has never worked in the history of mankind. Not once.
all the more reason to keep trying

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Should EBT be allowed to buy guns and ammo?

>there laws
Christ, I hate automistake.

>state choice
Fair

>ice racist
>nah
Cool

>wall racist
>a bit
How?

Oink oink you sorry excuse for a human, how's the leather taste?

Nope.

Instead of bailing out a failure company (the jungle of capitalism says to let it die) why didn't we take that bailout money and give it to those laid off? Seems like a better use of funds, right?

you should probably talk to your congressperson then.
ncsl.org/research/human-services/ebt-electronic-benefit-transfer-card-restrictions-for-public-assistance.aspx

Well then you, like me, would like to see these programs severely cut or removed entirely then yes?
When people are unable to work, charities did fine for people, and didn't have stupid government bureaucracy middle manning. Charities and donations are usually far more suited to the persons actual need where as the government is just trying to slap the same size of band-aid on everybody whether they get a paper cut or a limb chopped off and it doesn't work.

Every modern government is fundamentally socialist, taxation and social services (like a military) provided for the people collectively.
Only governments funded and run by monarchies are not.

>How?
because it is more of a symbol, than it is efficient.

so we shouldn't have restrictions on panhandling then?

What else could she mean by the statement?

that capitalism is irredeemable?

but capitalism is working great? have you ever heard of propaganda?

Suace please?

So if capitalism is irredeemable and she’s a “social democrat” what is the likely conclusion here? That she actually is ok with capitalism but wants to reform it or replace it with socialism?

Why? Buying guns with TANF isn't allowed in my state.
Although I could see an argument for justifying it if the guns/ammo we used in hunting for food, though I still disagree with it.

I mean on a long enough timeline every society that has ever existed has or will fail. so... nothing works?

>what is the likely conclusion here?
that you're trying to attribute her with saying something, that she didn't say.

>charities did fine (historically)
While that is debatable, I do agree with
>programs severely cut

As for charities, nowadays, there is more accountability. And yeah I do mostly agree with letting private charities help as opposed to one-size-fits-all bureaucratic, monolithic government "assistance" programs.
"The rich" donate voluntarily, especially when there is a tax incentive to do so.

Jesus fucking Christ google Democratic Socialists of America the goddamn group she is a card carrying member of. They clearly state that they are Anti-Capitalist so putting all the information together saying she wants to replace capitalism in the US with Socialism is an honest statement.

>more of a symbol, than it is efficient.
We disagree on that, but more importantly, what do you think it's a symbol of?

but where did she say "ZOMG I WANT TO MAKE AMERICA SOCIALIST"?

*were used

Fucking androidism.

the chinese and liberals with mental illness.

Lets just admit that the illegal mexicans got her into office somehow because shes young and has nice boobs. Just admit it.

stupiditiy, slight racism. if it's to keep latin americans out, why would you say mexico has to pay for it? the ~800k per mile upkeep is going to be way less cost efficient than drones or sensors.

Not so. There are middle grounds that you are ignoring.

>one

Actions speak louder than words. She’s a member of an organization that’s Anti-Capitalism and rags against capitalism frequently so conclusion is sound. If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck flys like a duck then it’s a duck.

kill the poor

True except that she shit talks capitalism and prompts up socialism so the conclusion is clear.

so she didn't openly advocate for socialism? so OP is a misleading faggot is what you're telling me.

>at least one

You would be hard pressed to replace something that doesn't exist. We don't have capitalism. We have a mixed market.

>why would you say the country on whose border it is,
>and who allows illegals from father south to cross their country
>by looking the other way at best or actively promoting this activity at worst
>should pay for it?

>drones or sensors
And they're clearly working so well right now...

we should disallow air and food to those we deem stupid. i never said kill them!

hmm, well they do seem to be working due to the fact since they've flew more missions they captured more people.

i don't get what's so hard about this, i'm using the same exact tactics trump supporters use user.

When did she do the second thing? Your entire argument so far has been that she supports socialism by not supporting capitalism. It not being a dichotomy means you need to back up your new angle.

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Anti-capitalist ≠ socialist

100000 illeagal crossings doing no interdiction. 200 drones catch 200 illegal invaders. that’s progress!
build the fucking wall

Listen I just said that I was going to discharge my firearm in your direction never said I was going to kill you.

>Listen I just said
which is still more than she ever did about socialism.

>Socialism has never worked

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>build the fucking wall
best of luck with that user, but still not going to happen.

Every fucking day with these stupid threads. You know what? "Socialism" comes in degrees. We all pool our money for libraries or police or a strong military, and that's a form of socialism. And it works very well and allows us to pay for things that benefit society as a whole - - when it's done to a reasonable degree. And I say that as an avowed capitalist with hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in the stock market who does not want a radical change to the U.S. economic system. You can support some forms of "socialism" without being a commie bastard.

Eat the rich.

These are not the same as saying "capitalism is bad means the same as socialism is good". You continue to act as if it is a direct dichotomy.

Except the name of the group that is anti capitalism has socialist in it.

i have invented a better form of government. i am calling it happy feelieism. with it you get hugs and tendies

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And the Kim family are democrats.

socialism does work and is implemented even in America at times. Full blown economic socialism isn't anything anyone wants. Nor does anyone want full blown economic capitalism (which has never worked either)

Capitalism and socialism correct each others mistakes.
Capitalism + Socialism = 'MERIKA!

The freedom to innovate with the safety nets for the less fortunate. The key is in the right mixture.

A slow and steady pace, and that's great, but drone and personnel enforcement are subject to political whims. A physical barrier works in other countries and it will work here.

but it wont, because it won't be built user.

Nah. It's not socialism.

Socialism is an economic and political monolithic structure. It always leads to ruin.
Capitalism is an economic system, regardless of government. A representative republic is a governmental system, regardless of economy.
The very separation of concerns allows them to mesh functionally.
Socialism is about "the people" owning everything, that whole "seize the means if production" tripe. We don't have that here. We do, however, have more or less a free market that allows the more ambitious of us the opportunity to create new means of production.

>bill nye the engineer guy

Then the influx of people who shouldn't be here continues. The weak-willed continue to allow it and shout down the grownups in the room. And eventually we reach the tipping point, the country falls, and the experiment fails after 300 years (give or take).

>Then the influx of people who shouldn't be here continues.
spoilers: a wall wouldn't have fixed that, due to most people over-staying their visas.

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made my sex junk go oh oh oh

most of european country has been led at one time or another by a socialist party.

The success of Germany today is largely viewed as the consequence of Gerhard Schröder policies in the late 90s and early 2000s. His party is the SPD ( s stand for socialist )

Because Scandinavian countries aren't constantly listed as the best places to live?

When has capitalism or trickle down economics ever worked for anyone who isn't a 1%er?

I know you cunts love to bait and meme, but you're literally getting fucked in the ass by taxes and rich CEOs, and then acting like you're proud of it.

Tbf you probably deserve to stay poor and dumb.

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>the United States doesn't exist
Kek @ this tard

I came.

Scandinavian countries aren't socialist. That's coming from an ancom btw.

if we had robots doing everything for us socialism would work.