Hourly reminder: your god’s fake, your heaven’s fake, your hell’s fake...

Hourly reminder: your god’s fake, your heaven’s fake, your hell’s fake, your baby jesus was nothing more than plagiarised fiction, your religion is a scam designed to separate idiots from their cash, your priest knows that he is a liar and you are a drooling tard. Questions?

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>this

i dunno how 1 dollar every Sunday is separating me from my cash, but go ahead and think you're woke or some shit fucking idiot

Samefag trying to keep his own shit thread going. Sage

weak and predictable

do you suck op's cock too?

Wrong again godtard. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

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do you really think you saying this made anyone think about it? kys

your only reply was to the person who called samefag.
so you made him into christian so you could justify abusing him.

Proof
Proof
Redpilled, there is no hell
Plagarised from what?
Church =/= Christianity
Not catholic
Not drooling

Accept Jesus as your savior now

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Don't know him
Seems like a cool guy, maybe if he introduced himself to me, I'd care more

No question, but know I was once like you and now I feel nothing but pity and cringe for your blind ignorance. When you grow up some day you might actually be able to open your mind and not just be another sheep on the the athiests bandwagon.

>grow up

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>telling lies for jesus
Fact is, you see Lono as quaint, primitive and fictitious. And you are right. Sadly, your favourite god is just as fake as Lono and comes with exactly the same amount of supporting evidence. Zero.

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let's be honest, you created this thread only for attention you pathetic stupid faggot

>kys
Given the fact that your butt has clearly shattered, it seems my thread has in fact caused you to think. The truth frightens you and this is why you have sperged out.
You’re welcome.

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why my pp hard

b/c ur mom's sucking my cock

My godtard threads are a free community service for those intellectually less fortunate than myself. The religion scam preys on tards so I try to help the tards avoid getting scammed.

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lemme suck ur cock to faggot

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now it's not gay anymore

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sure kid

It was cool to care about what Christians did pre 2010. Now it just outs you as a fat virgin redditor.

weak and predictable

>Being an atheist in the current year

How droll

really retarded

weak and predictable

strawman

I found the incel

bingo

Hourly reminder
OP is a faggot

this is why atheists are assholes

why would anyone worship a crazy street jew?

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Religion is a choice. I am an Atheist myself but religion teaches some core values. you may not think they are important now but they are. Things like not being greedy, coveting your neighbors belongings, what hurts you only makes you stronger. There are many things the bible preaches that are very good the younger generation needs.

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Are you aware you saved the thumbnail? Fedora tipping genius.

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True statement here

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*checks watch*

Yep still dead.

Picture related

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If you're so sure, then commit suicide and see for yourself faggot

Atheism, the religion of retardation.

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found the retard

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Looks like someone's butthurt baby eating gaytheist.

if you're so sure hell ain't real then kill yourself, faggot. You obviously have nothing to be afraid of

I used to be roman catholic turned atheist.
I do not believe in god. I believe mankind can do great good/evil. For me, the church is a fine system that teach people morals and the fastest way to control the masses.

I usually dont reply and just stalk Yea Forums. but i just cant help it looking at threads like this giving atheism a bad name.

Let other believe in their faith if that makes them happy.

Not OP, but the problem is that beliefs inform actions, and the morals that religions teach cause harm. I'm not saying we should outlaw religion or anything like that, but we absolutely should be challenging people on it.

>ignoring 2000 years of theology

All these buttshattered godtards. Truly heartwarming.

>2000 years of rewording the same flawed arguments over and over again to try to hide the flaws

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The morals that most religions are SUPPOSED to teach are pretty ideal actually. Treat others with kindness, give to the needy, hold yourself to a higher standard. The problem lies with the people doing the teaching perverting those ideals to more firmly entrench themselves in positions of power, which really isn't religion's fault. That's just how people are.

Worth noting that I am not, and never have been, religious. But dismissing religion as a generally harmful influence in general is just ignorant. Have there been many atrocities committed in the name of some God or other? Of course there have, but there have been truly great works and movements that benefited millions or billions that stemmed from the same gods. As with most things, the problem is individuals, not concepts.

HAIL SATAN

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>The morals that most religions are SUPPOSED to teach are pretty ideal actually.
I don't agree. The Abrahamic religions in particular have terrible moral teachings embedded in their holy books. What you see actually happen is that modern believers will reinterpret / ignore the texts to fit with advances in moral thought so that they don't look completely horrible.
>But dismissing religion as a generally harmful influence in general is just ignorant
The fundamental thing is that religion is not necessary. There is nothing good about religion that requires religion, yet religion has inherent problems even at the conceptual level.

>Check your facts OP

When I grew up I stopped believing in imaginary friends.

>2000 years of shared delusion

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>unironically posting this

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I really hope this is a troll... But if it's not, we actually have EVIDENCE that humans build sandcastles. No evidence to support imaginary friends build the universe.

>cherry-picking for jesus
You forgot to mention killing your disobedient sons and forcing women to marry their rapist.

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Moral teachings =/= specific responses to situations that were at one point relevant. Blaming religion for fitting the time in which it exists is illogical; it is after all written by people. The passages in the Old Testament that are no longer acceptable (stoning women, killing gays, slaves etc.) are important precisely BECAUSE they demonstrate that religion can evolve and adapt with the times, just like other aspects of human civilization. Reinterpretation is 100% acceptable for religious texts; this is something agreed upon by Protestants, Catholics (the official stance of the Catholic church has changed drastically in recent years for example) and Muslims alike. That's basically the entire field of Theology; reinterpreting the history of religion to more closely fit modern times.

As for your second point; you're right. Religion is not necessary. But it's a moot point because NOTHING is necessary. No one NEEDS anything; all needs are based on desires. Even the basic "needs" like food and water are only relevant if you desire to stay alive. Religion is necessary (for some) because the alternative, that there is nothing out there, that there is no reason to do good or do anything really, is too much to bear. Religion is a comfortable blanket with which many, many people shut out the chilling realization that this life is all we have. Who are we to rip that blanket away?

see
Killing your disobedient sons is no longer "ok" with God. Most religions have grown out of that, and that's a good thing.

Except for a lot of Muslims. But again, that's an issue of a minority group (in this case Wahhabi zealots) misleading a much larger group.

May i ask nicely what got you to this conclusion op?

im an athiest, but im genuinely curious, why did you call it plagiarized ?

>Who are we to rip that blanket away?
We are people who don’t like to see the cunts in the religion business scamming tards out of their cash.

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I don’t like scammers. They are cunts. I try to help people avoid them.

>Moral teachings =/= specific responses to situations that were at one point relevant
Even ignoring "specific responses", there are still fundamental issues, such as teaching that faith is a virtue.
>Blaming religion for fitting the time in which it exists is illogical
I don't see why. If a religion had an immoral teaching in the past, it is correct to blame the religion for it.
>The passages in the Old Testament that are no longer acceptable
>they demonstrate that religion can evolve and adapt with the times
The problem is that you still have people even today who accept those passages in the Old Testament. They see these things as the sacred word of God, and their interpretations of these texts are not wrong. The holy texts act as a weight holding back humanity from progress.
>Religion is not necessary
>NOTHING is necessary
You can try to evade if you want, but the point I was making is that religion is not necessary in order to get the benefits that you think religion has. In the subjective sense that we want these benefits, you don't need religion.
>Religion is necessary (for some) because the alternative, that there is nothing out there, that there is no reason to do good or do anything really, is too much to bear.
I regard humanity higher than that.
>Who are we to rip that blanket away?
Thinking, feeling human beings who observe that this same blanket is being used to smother other human beings.

>I refuse to allow the possibility of an ominpotent being therefore I’m a genius

Your intellectual insecurity is showing.

And how are they scammers?

The story of jesus is a clear plagiarism of earlier gods including Horus and Mithras. The scammers who fabricated his story were too stupid and/or lazy to come up with their own original lies.

OP,
Maybe you're right, I havnt really made up my mind. But one things for sure, I sure wouldnt listen to you for advice about anything, you loser weak deadbeat. This is what people with no value in any way what so ever write, why do you care if there is a hell?
Are you afraid? I bet you are.

Either way, im not even religious but you sound really pathetic and its incredibly obvious how weak and insecure you seem. Imagine writing a post like that.

Tip your fedora to many ladies and keep watching anime OP, maybe one day you wont be a faggot lul, inb4 triggered OP

Once again, you're painting with an unfairly large brush here. The number of people who are taken advantage of by their churches and pastors and rabbis, what have you, is unquestionably too high.
But asserting that by merely entering into the world of religion you are unarguably making your life worse is just nonsense. It's like saying that because some people fall off bikes and get hurt NO ONE should EVER take up bike riding again. Religion improves the quality of billions of people's lives across the globe. The people who it hurts are reason to improve the system, not throw it out.

>this

jesus storyline is a copy pasta from other religions that existed before it

so cringe

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>and the morals that religions teach cause harm
sure kid

weak and predictable

try to stay current

It’s strange that theists always use this lie. I was still in primary school when the religion scam became obvious. It doesn’t take a genius to see reality. It takes a tard to be a theist.

Gotta say, today OP was actually a priddy cule gi, eh kills god and doesn't afraid of anything.

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weak and predictable

weak and predictable

someone's feelings hurt?

They make false promises about a heaven that they know is fake and threaten people with hell that they also know is fake. Then they pass around the collection plate. That’s called a scam.

>killing your disobedient sons
sounds like a winner to me

The Grand irony in this is that it makes weak people feel stronger. People who are going through hard times- with relationships, loss of a loved one, even just loneliness.
But that doesn't mean you have to turn to/with others to this sort of crazed, group mentality.
Its for weak people who can't handle themselves or their own mortality. And its perpetuating that mindset.

weak and predictable

But they don't force you to donate, they just encourage.

sure kid

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weak and insecure

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>Even ignoring "specific responses", there are still fundamental issues, such as teaching that faith is a virtue.
I agree with this. I think teaching that questioning is a virtue is a much better way to go forward.
>I don't see why. If a religion had an immoral teaching in the past, it is correct to blame the religion for it.
I agree, but carrying the sins of the past to the present day when the person (or in this case ideology) has clearly changed is ridiculous. It's not okay to call someone a slave owner if their ancestor had slaves, why is it okay to act like religion currently endorses stances that it changed hundreds of years ago?
>The problem is that you still have people even today who accept those passages in the Old Testament. They see these things as the sacred word of God, and their interpretations of these texts are not wrong. The holy texts act as a weight holding back humanity from progress.
Those people are dwindling year by year, and will at some point die out. There are white people who are still racist as fuck, but there are many that are not, and more exist every year. Again; condemning many for the actions of a few is the definition of discrimination.
>I regard humanity higher than that.
The same humanity that created these systems in the first place? Unless you believe that religion WAS divinely gifted to humanity, we made this shit up ourselves, and it wasn't some party game. There was a reason, and still is a reason, that people turn to religion. I firmly believe that in the future, religion will eventually die out. I too believe that humans will outgrow it, but you don't rip off a scab while it's still healing. Just give it time.
>Thinking, feeling human beings who observe that this same blanket is being used to smother other human beings.
It is an impossibility to determine the net good/evil done by religion. One would have to be literally omniscient to fairly tally all acts on both sides. I can't claim that, can you?

sure kid

that doesn't matter to op

>Its for weak people who can't handle themselves or their own mortality
sure kid

What a peculiar post. You started out attempting to claim the moral high ground and by the end you had sunk into schoolyard name-calling.

As for hell, surely it’s obvious that if I were a cowardly moron, I would already have caved in to the threat of hell and become a godtard.

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weak and predictable

weak and predictable

you are obnoxious.

this retarded

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>>donate or you will go to hell
yeah sure, sounds like voluntary donating to me

Some people ARE weak. Whether through bad parenting, or unfortunate genetics, or whatever. They simply can't handle the trials and tribulations of the world without a supernatural guide.

THAT'S FINE.

I would rather a weak man take up a bible than a knife.

Killer argument there bud. Really representing your side with aplomb.
>fuck off grown-ups are talking

Religion is organised-superstition dreamed-up by Bronze Age goatherders to explain phenomena they had no science for, and to enshrine a moral code relevant to life ~5000 years ago.

All the rest of it is basically televangelist window-dressing for the weak-minded and weak-willed.

>bleating of sheep follows for the next 200 posts

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Anyone strong and intelligent already knows this. It's only the weak brainlets that are herded in by the lies of the good book.

And op what is so bad about teaching morals and giving people something to look up to?

>Religion improves the quality of billions of people's lives across the globe.
Telling lies for jesus, volume 74,335,208,655. Google “societal health indicators vs religiosity by country”. You will learn that the best countries in the world by every metric are the LEAST religious ones and the world’s worst shitholes are the most religious. This is a fact. You can confirm it for yourself if you are interested in reality.

There is the lutheric church, they let you pray so you get your sins away.

I am sure, sure kid.

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I'd rather them take a knife. Darwinism at its very finest.
Another ironic thing is that many will take a knife in God's name, kek. At least the former have some sort of personal reasoning rather than an insane God complex one.

Gee it's almost like people in shitty situations turn to religion to feel better about their shit lives, whereas people in good situations don't need to.
>what is correlation vs. causation
Dumbfuck

>It's not okay to call someone a slave owner if their ancestor had slaves
>why is it okay to act like religion currently endorses stances that it changed hundreds of years ago?
Because religion isn't an entity, nor is it a homogeneous system. The fact is that religions do in fact still endorse these objectionable stances even if other religions do not.
>Those people are dwindling year by year, and will at some point die out
Population statistics and religious surveys suggest that you are not correct. On a global scale, problematic theists are increasing in number, not decreasing.
>condemning many for the actions of a few is the definition of discrimination.
The many are enabling the few. Even if you do not carry about a suicide attack, for instance, if you help create the environment which fosters such things then you are not in the clear.
>The same humanity that created these systems in the first place?
Correct.
>There was a reason, and still is a reason, that people turn to religion
Sure there are reasons people do it, but what I am saying is that they don't need to. I don't see reason to think that a substantial number of people couldn't get along just fine without religion.
>you don't rip off a scab while it's still healing
If it's infected you do. Rip it off, disinfect it, put on a bandaid.
>It is an impossibility to determine the net good/evil done by religion
That's not relevant. Again, there is nothing good that religion does that requires religion. At the same time, religion is causing problems on both the conceptual and real world levels.

You're right, a guy taking a knife and killing his wife and child with no religion is objectively better than him joining a church and finding a new support group.

You're really doing us atheists proud dude.

that's why christianity is poison, instead of actually doing something, people pray to nonexistant god and wait that will do their work for them, or worse, accept their suffering, because "it's all part of gods plan"

>grimly determined to remain ignorant
A textbook godtard.

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>He said with a lisp, tipping his fedora on his way out.

Op i must ask this simple question, why do you have to be so rude and are you so mad? There is very little bad about religion and it doesn't hurt to believe in something.

*why are you so mad

>"Attaboy Cletus, u shure showt them dirty ey-thee-ests what-for boy golly hyuk!"

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fabrication

weak and predictable

Bunch of people that don’t pay taxes to the government because taxes are bad we don’t wanna pay taxes.. but then contribute every week to pedophiles.

weak and predictable

you are obnoxious

nietzche already stated this, and he wasn't a fag about it

weak and predictable

>pedophiles.
strawman

>nietzche
so?

>Because religion isn't an entity, nor is it a homogeneous system. The fact is that religions do in fact still endorse these objectionable stances even if other religions do not.
PEOPLE are not an entity, nor are they homogeneous. There are non-religious people that advocate for fucking kids, but I don't say atheists are a danger because I know that those people are a minority. You are calling religions dangerous because some people who are religious do bad things; this is the definition of discrimination.
>Population statistics and religious surveys suggest that you are not correct. On a global scale, problematic theists are increasing in number, not decreasing.
You're actually right on this, just did some research. Guess my view is skewed by where I live; religion is on the decline here.
>The many are enabling the few. Even if you do not carry about a suicide attack, for instance, if you help create the environment which fosters such things then you are not in the clear.
The many do not enable the few. The few enable the few, who are themselves members of the minority group. The vast majority of religious peoples condemn extremism in their religions, with the possible exception of Islam.
>Sure there are reasons people do it, but what I am saying is that they don't need to. I don't see reason to think that a substantial number of people couldn't get along just fine without religion.
I think you're having trouble looking past your own situation. Just because you and I have no problem living without religion, does NOT mean most people would be "just fine" without it. We are in the minority after all.
>If it's infected you do. Rip it off, disinfect it, put on a bandaid.
Religion is the band-aid. You're talking about ripping it off and leaving an open wound.

I have to run and cook dinner for my kids but this was a lot of fun, good talk. Keep asking questions.

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how many bridges do you live under ?

why spread hate when love is the same cost

this is Yea Forums, being fags about things is what we do.

Not everyone needs to believe in God. Some people do. Some want to believe but do not know how; others love to challenge beliefs.

Still, others have no other words then to explain some of the weird shit that won't be explained in their (or their potential children's) lifetime.

The funny thing is, the more we collectively learn, the less we actually know. It wasn't that long ago the biggest mystery to humanity was "where do the rabbits go when they run away?"

Now, we're building fucking robots. Yeah, robots are cool, but fuck. Who even wants fucking robots? People building robots, that's who. What, are we going to build a giant robot dragon overload so atheist learn actions have consequences and the pursuit of Science has been traditional to find the truth and help explain this "God" word the guy in the fukkin neighborhood castle waring black keeps saying.

criminal organisation shuffling pedophiles around

runaway little zealot, you embarrassing yourself

>There is very little bad about religion
Allow me to introduce you to history.......JFC, even for a godtard, that’s a grotesquely ignorant thing to say. As for my tone, my goal is to speak the truth plainly. I have zero interest if feels are hurt.

>There is very little bad about religion

Prejudices
Racism
Misogyny
Dogmatism
Homophobia
Inequalities
Close-mindedness
Authoritarianism
Slavery

None of those things are good or moral.

>There are non-religious people that advocate for fucking kids, but I don't say atheists are a danger because I know that those people are a minority
Correct, because atheism isn't a doctrine that is capable of teaching such things.
>You are calling religions dangerous because some people who are religious do bad things; this is the definition of discrimination.
False. I am calling religions dangerous because some people who are religious do bad things because of religion. It is a causal relationship.
>The many do not enable the few.
They absolutely do. If you foster an environment where faith is a virtue, where religious beliefs cannot be criticized, where devotion to a holy book is commendable, you are enabling those who take the extreme views.
>The vast majority of religious peoples condemn extremism in their religions
Token condemnation while they continue to enable it.
>Just because you and I have no problem living without religion, does NOT mean most people would be "just fine" without it.
Similarly, just because many people live with religion, it does not mean they wouldn't be just fine without it. I don't think that I am some special snowflake who can get along without religion while the ignorant masses need it. I estimate them higher than that.
>Religion is the band-aid
Religion is the infection. I'm talking about telling people to get it treated.
>I have to run and cook dinner for my kids but this was a lot of fun, good talk.
Take care.

>it doesn't hurt to believe in something
There are people who believe in faith healing. Do you think that doesn't hurt people? There are people who believe STDs can be cured by raping children. Do you think that doesn't hurt people?

When there are no more institutions to chastise there is no more need for an atheist. Of course if there's no arguments for the consequences of human nature the same holds true.

you are obnoxious

sure kid

stay mad kid

weak and predictable

this retarded

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you are obnoxious

its easier to prove a creator exists than one does not. go ahead and prove me wrong

protip: you cants

ark is not a boat lol, at least educate yourself if you want to troll kid

You can't do either.

false, jesus was real. there is many records to back this. even historians will tell you this through records in rome.

this is like saying priests dont exist

anyone who posts a picture the size of the thumbnail looses the argument

are you having fun buddy?

I mean yea, the creator can show himself and we'll have the proof, of course it's easier to prove that he exists than that he does not. neither is actually proven yet, so what's your point?

>le shifting the burden of proof man

Christians are like the pathetic dude at the bar who gets stood up by his date but refuses to believe she isn’t coming. Only they keep dragging it out over generations and saying “soon!” Empires have risen and fallen and this stupid nigger isn’t “back”

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weak and predictable

great comeback kiddo, get better at trolling

that this is a shitpost

You talking about the Bible?

>the truth is trolling
ayy lmao

>using le

found the incel

there is more proof of a creator, not a religious god that you want because. try science there champ. maybe you will learn something

The complete misunderstanding of the word 'atheism' due to ignorance, their own bigotry, or because they're really just that fucking stupid.

So the “creator” creates beings with several senses and stubbornly refuses to appeal to any of them. Not to meantion most of his creative turn against him. Sounds like you worship a complete fucking retard.

No just concerned about your intelligence that's all. Tell me again how your stupidity is supposed to hurt my feelings? I'd like to see how you can come to such a conclusion.

what part of my post made you think I worship anything?

both of you are fucking retarded

your reply.
these type of threads are typical here.

someones insecure

weak and predictable

dont be buttmad, just get better kid

standard reply from the insecure

no u

nostalgia is the hip new thing, is it not?

>there is more proof of a creator
Give one example.

Jesus will slay

That anyone can rewrite the bible and objectively improve it is proof that it isn't the word of some divine, omnipotent being.

Does the Abrahamic god exist? No. If we assume the bible is true, then there is no way he can.

Does a god, or gods, exist? Possibly. But even if they did, they haven't done a very good job of letting us know. Perhaps they don't want us to.

lol sure thing kiddo, you cant play the reversie card with such shit replies. step your game up

dna

ball is now in your court

I don't presume to know what made all of this if it was made or if it has always existed.

I don't know. Not saying it's nothing.

Just saying I don't believe your claim or any other claim that I've heard.

That's where the burden of proof is.

If I say fairies exist it isn't your job to prove they don't it's my job to prove they do.

waste of trips

sure kid

Well I don't endorse athiest church mostly because that seems dumb but it is healthy to have a community and a communal ritual.

Maybe just join a club.

the religion of no religion.
works for me

Ok but I can use DNA to prove evolution
So clearly it isn't gonna be great to prove there was a Creator.

Why would DNA need to mutate if a perfect being created it.

Explain how DNA is proof of a creator.

well religion is a belief system, which atheists have. they have a belief in a non higher power.

lolwut

so how does evolution disprove a creator?

its perfect in the sense it can mutate, adapt,survive.

>thinks DNA sequences are proof of god's existence

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weak and predictable

weak and predictable

Because god supposedly created all the fish, birds and animals. Evolution states that all organisms evolved from really simple unicellular organisms. So, evolution directly contradicts the creation story.

thinking this is how it happened

See

That's a Wiccan symbol not a Satanic one...

yes copying others is weak and predictable

sickest rebuttal in the 5th grade here. gg champ

no shit sherlock

reposting the same thing verbatim 16 times is weak and predictable.

no, it contradicts what you believe to be a creation story.

that is a big difference here. we arent talking about some hillbilly in all white talking about how his god created the earth and all in it and dinosaurs being planted by some devil.

that has nothing to do with what was posted but ok. seen

>*tips fedora*

>Is no longer ok with God.
So Good changes 'his' mind? (quotes because God needs a penis, to masturbate I guess)
When do we know when God decides something that he said in a previous book is no longer ok?

daily reminder: hillary lost

its pretty obvious that there is no god. no need to be a dick about it

no god for you maybe

no actually its an evaluation of the post itself.
your actions are also weak and predictable

I guess sometimes the infallible omniscient god fucks things up. Poor old godtards. Just imagine being that stupid.

nerve struck

I take it you interpret the bible rather liberally, then.
So what ARE we talking about? What's your interpretation?

Doesn't the fact that the bible needs to be re-interpreted to fit in with our modern understanding of the world bother you at all? Shouldn't a divine, all-powerful, all-knowing creator ensure that the message is as clear as possible, and cannot be misinterpreted?

>inb4 god works in mysterious ways, his knowledge is infinitely greater than yours, etc etc shit rebuttals

where?

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>damage control
I'll let you evaluate yourself

Woke abt fake god
Progressive atheists & Yea Forums edgelords

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btw he said the universe not god you evangelist wise wannabe nig nog

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im not talking about a bible. im talking about a creator.
(but in doing what you state then you would have to remove free will, or i should say the illusion of it.)

stop deviating and get back to the conversation.

Evolution is in conflict with the Christian bible, which in means it conflicts with the Christian god.

Nothing can 'disprove' a creator, when there is no proof that it exists. For example, you can't disprove that there exists an invisible monster under every single bed in the world. This is why the burden of proof is always on the one making the positive claim; in this case, it is on theists who argue that god exists.

k, thats cool for you wanting to debate a christian.

there is plenty of proof something creating things. so the burden is for you to disprove what has been presented, just this one thing. then we can talk about another.

get back to the conversation

Part of what makes Christianity so dubious is the idea that God loves us. It would be much easier to believe in a pagan-style god that fucked up and got angry sometimes, or made mistakes. The idea that everything God does is out of love leads you to all of the unsatisfying answers of theodicy, and you have to somehow justify why tornados and plagues are expressions of love. There really is no satisfying or coherent answer to why a loving god would create such horrors. I have looked for one.

>The resurrection is the most reasonable explanation.
Not if you are starting from an objective viewpoint. None of the so-called "critical scholars" are included in this infographic, which was created to comfort more than to persuade. Many, many scholars of the period have questioned the impossible narrative of resurrection. Any eyewitness account from the Bible should be dismissed out of hand for obvious reasons.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Jesus_Exist?_(Ehrman)

Here is just one source which doubts that Jesus ever lived. There are many more.

that last part only works when talking to miaphysites

Proof of something creating things isn't proof that something must've created the universe...

Godtards are ok with me being burned and tortured FOREVER for being rational (atheist). And you would like me to be a little more polite to them? Good one champ. I will address them like the hateful uncivilised retarded scum that they are.

we havent gotten to that conversation yet. we are still on the first subject

back to the subject at hand please

But you literally said before
>there is plenty of proof something creating things

If you don't want to talk about it, don't bring it up

Typical overcompensating atheist retard. So aggressive over something you don't believe in.

Please never call yourself an atheist again thanks to you stupid fucks edgy 12 year olds, I can't call myself an atheist anymore

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Samefag here religion is about faith you dumb nigger

at no point did i talk about the universe. yet. we still have not gotten past step 1. love your enthusiasm though.

now lets get back to the conversation, not try to move on to a new one you have nothing to add to it.

this is just sad at this point really. but i believe that you are smart enough to have a valid come back this time

Given the quality of your grammar and punctuation, I would wager that you've been a godtard from an early age.

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Nice derail bro

Pay attention, derpy. The tax-free status of the religion scam means that EVERYONE, even non-religiotards, is FORCED to subsidise the child-molesters in the religion scam. No choice. We must subsidise them. Can you see why someone would object to that or do I need to break it down into words of fewer syllables for you?

It's about separating idiots from their cash, but you keep believing that. It's what Rector Minvader would want.

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