This fucking thread again!

This fucking thread again!

Ask a 35 year old kissless virgin anything.

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How the fuck have you managed to spend 30 years in the modern world, with all the loose whores and degenerate sluts walking around and STILL remain a virgin?

>How the fuck have you managed to spend 30 years in the modern world, with all the loose whores and degenerate sluts walking around and STILL remain a virgin?

All the degenerate sluts were not degenerate enough to fuck me.

C'mon.

24, I mean I've done most everything but full on penetrative sex, but I'm still a virgin in a technical sense. Most pathetic part is I was with this girl who was 18 when I was 16 and I spent the night at her college dorm. Her roommate left fucking condoms and I didn't get the picture. We made out in her bed that night, and hen I didnt fuck here because I'm a pussy and don't take the lead in bed. She even kissed me first. Then in the morning I got up and put my pants on and she was like confused about why I was doing that and I didn't get the picture then either. I am pathetic.

did you try? what sacrifices did you make in the pursuit of getting pussy?

You are.

I've certainly chatted up a few hundred girls at parties, bars etc. (which is actually not that much spread over 15 years+). Also used online dating a lot without success.

>chatted up a few hundred girls at parties, bars etc.
i don't get this. you must be terrible at talking to women.

That's true. I'm also terrible at talking to men. Boring, humourless, devoid of charm, charisma or eloquence.

self hate is your worst enemy. women hate low self esteem. you can be an ugly ogre with half a brain and still get pussy if you only projected different energy. it's not easy for someone like you, but either do something to make yourself more confident or you'll never get anywhere.

try fucking prostitutes and improve your sexual self image. than you'll be more open with regular women.

OP here. I wish I was athletic like that.

than try looking for new fields or learn new skills that will help you improve your financial status. the world is ripe with opportunities to make money, don't tunnel vision yourself to only one option.

travel locally, just change environments, go hiking or walking, avoid spending every day in the same environments where you feel like shit and let yourself have the same thoughts. you have to expose yourself to more stimulants.

>When I am dream about a different life, it is usually a life where I am young and get to start over again.
and that's a big problem. why do you believe you would do anything better when you can't even make the smallest improvements now? you are not that old, there is still a huge chunk of life ahead of you. instead of regretting past decisions, try focusing on making new ones that won't make you feel like shit in 5,10,15 years from now. thinking about better past is futile and only makes you feel worse, think about the better future.

who cares though

How the fuck are you kissless?
I lost my kiss virginity when I was 13.
How the fuck do you stay kissless fof 35 fucking years???

user, don't bother, you are talking to a wall at this point. This user wants to be miserable. No matter how much good advice you give him he still gonna wallow in self-pity and gonna do fuck all the next day to improve his life. Lost cause

>than try looking for new fields or learn new skills that will help you improve your financial status. the world is ripe with opportunities to make money, don't tunnel vision yourself to only one option.

I have a degree in molecular biology and did a lot of data analysis (R, Python) during my PhD and postdoc. Therefore, I am trying to get a data science or programming gig since there is nothing in biology. No success yet.

>travel locally, just change environments, go hiking or walking, avoid spending every day in the same environments where you feel like shit and let yourself have the same thoughts. you have to expose yourself to more stimulants.

I like to be out in nature. Taking walks, hiking, bike tours. Wouldn't call that traveling though.

>and that's a big problem. why do you believe you would do anything better when you can't even make the smallest improvements now?

I don't believe that. That's why those are fantasies.

This.

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I agree with this. I lost my virginity to a prostitute when I was 23 and I have no regrets about it. Definitely made me feel a bit more confident by giving me some sexual experience.

Only that sucked is that the hooker was nowhere near as hot as she was in her pictures. How can I avoid this if I want to see a hooker again?

Dude. If you are at least somewhat proficient in Rstudio, look up research jobs. People hate doing statistics, so they'd be more than happy to give that work to someone else (I'm a year 4 Neuroscience student).
Perhaps contact your past uni/college? Ask if they have any use for someone who is trained in statistics.

You can't unfortunately.
The only way to avoid losing money when seeing a prostitute is to do the awkward thing and turn the other way or make an excuse on the spot or something...

>I have a degree in molecular biology
so you definitely had some achievements in life and are not a complete moron. but i see now how you'd have a desire in pursuing your field of work after investing so much time in it. but in the meanwhile, take what you can, new opportunities may arise when you least expect them.

>I like to be out in nature. Taking walks, hiking, bike tours. Wouldn't call that traveling though.
i meant going to a local mountain, or some nearby city or whatever is close and inexpensive enough to where you live, just avoid being static.

>I don't believe that. That's why those are fantasies
Yeah, but those type of fantasies only worsen your situation, fantasize about the things to come.

>If you are at least somewhat proficient in Rstudio

Jupyter master race.

>look up research jobs. People hate doing statistics, so they'd be more than happy to give that work to someone else (I'm a year 4 Neuroscience student). Perhaps contact your past uni/college? Ask if they have any use for someone who is trained in statistics.

I've been applying for many such positions without success. Both in academia and in industry, people with a degree + background in statistics/mathematics or computer science are preferred.

there's a perverse satisfaction in being miserable when everything else fails and that's the only thing you're "good" at. unfortunately it only leads to more misery and it's hard to get rid off, but not impossible.

>so you definitely had some achievements in life and are not a complete moron.

Meh. Studying biology was an idiot move. Getting a PhD was even stupider.

>i meant going to a local mountain, or some nearby city or whatever is close and inexpensive enough to where you live, just avoid being static.

I try to get to places where I can rock climb once or twice a year. But that is all I can afford at the moment.

honestly, the more you speak, the more i get the impression that you are selling yourself short and are your own worst enemy.

you're not stupid, you can rock climb and like to go hiking, biking, so i can assume you're not some fat slob that can't get off his chair.

the solution might be as simple as finding a woman or a friend or anyone to satisfy you "social needs". it won't get you that dream job, but it will do good things to your overall mental health.

dropping the mindset you currently have would help you significantly.

i'm serious, go fuck a whore tonight, there's nothing to lose, at worst you'll feel the same and get some pussy, and it might help you make that first step toward improving your confidence with women at least. you'll at least know you did something and that can set in motion other things.

Where do I find a prostitute? I live in FL and craigslist and back page were shut down

Because your mum encourages you being a virgin?

Ask Robert Kraft

why no hooker yet?

>honestly, the more you speak, the more i get the impression that you are selling yourself short and are your own worst enemy.

It's the other way around. I look good on the first look (PhD, hobbies + interests, athletic body) but I am a highly flawed person.

>the solution might be as simple as finding a woman or a friend or anyone to satisfy you "social needs"

That might be the solution. But I am far away from it. Last time I had something I would call a friend was 10 years ago. I have zero stable social connections.

I consider prostitution to be inherently exploitative.

i can't help you there, i don't live in us so i'm not familiar with the local situation. but you can try picking one up with a car or something. there must be some familiar place where they hang out. the way we do it here is order alleged "massages" from various adds. a lot of those are disguised whores.

My mom isnt a muzzie.

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13 years old: i shared a beer with her

that's really just your perception man

questions:

1. are you an incel?
2. have you watched RSD? got me laid within 6 months

>Biology
Only hot sluts study biology, describe yourself user. How do you look?

>I am a highly flawed person.
i don't doubt that, but you focusing on that and having the mindset you do only makes it worse, but i feel you already know that. being a flawed person doesn't disqualify you from enjoying life.

>That might be the solution. But I am far away from it.
i know you are, but you're the only person that can change that. other people don't give a fuck about you, nothing will happen if you wait for something to happen. you must take initiative and look for that person who might like you, either as a friend or something more, male or female. and those people exist out there, you know they do, you're not the worst or the most boring or the most unappealing person, or someone without anything to offer, you are just shooting yourself in the foot by thinking that and letting it take over.

Have you given up at this point?

How the fuck is someone in the 30s not kissed anything. I call bullshit larp

I got drunk with a girl when I was 13. Europe baby.

look dude... i know a few social retards and their main mistake always is overthinking and the lack of communication skills.

Follow these simple rules in conversations and approaches:

Do not lie.
Listen before answering and tailor your answer around the part you listend to.
Avoid "me too!" situations and provide some more detail to the case. Example if the person says "Yeah i really do not like Hamburger that much." Dont just say "me too." - rather say "Agreed." followed by something like "have you tried alternatives yet?"
Stay on topic.
Learn a few conversation starters and educate yourself in tipps and tricks about how to politly get out of conversations or carry them further.
For a start, try to become interested in peoples life, not just act like you are interested.

Don't know what to say? Say either nothing or "I don't know what to say" or make it humerous with a "What do people usually answer to that?"

Don't know how to react properly or according to the situation? Openly admit "This X feels uncomftable for me and i rather do X" or change the situation in something you are more comftable with.

there is so much stuff one can learn

>1. are you an incel?

Am I involuntarily celibate? Yes. Do I think it's because of some feminist conspiracy? Of course not - I wouldn't date me if I were a woman.

>2. have you watched RSD? got me laid within 6 months

I haven't.

Nothing more than average. And yes, 70% of my co-students and co-workers were female

>and those people exist out there, you know they do

Where are they? It's not that I've been hiding in my room. Can't even find a permanent climbing partner at the moment.

It's not that women throw themselves at you. If you suck at attracting them, you stay kissless.

what actual thing have you done to try and find one?

try finding hiking communities and meet people there, either online or locally, or do that with any other interest you have. people bond more easily over common interests. give those online dating apps another try, don't give up easily, just do something, anything.

OP here.

>always is overthinking

Alcohol helps against that

>the lack of communication skills

This is my problem.

>Avoid "me too!" situations and provide some more detail to the case. Example if the person says "Yeah i really do not like Hamburger that much." Dont just say "me too." - rather say "Agreed." followed by something like "have you tried alternatives yet?"

I once told a girl that the best burger I had was made out of whale. She was not impressed. If you ever get to Iceland, check that place out: fabrikkan.is/en/english/

>Learn a few conversation starters

"Hi"

>educate yourself in tipps and tricks about how to politly get out of conversations

"I need to shit"

>or carry them further.

No fucking idea. Conversation usually fizzles out after like five minutes.

>Don't know what to say? Say either nothing or "I don't know what to say" or make it humerous with a "What do people usually answer to that?"

That doesn't work if that is the only thing you can contribute to a conversation

>what actual thing have you done to try and find one?

Chatted up people in the gym. Put out notices on the notice board that I'm looking for someone to climb with. Joined the local climbing club (who still don't invite when they go out privately).

how socially awkward are you? how do you behave around people in general? how often do you engage other people? what topics do you talk about in general? have you ever had a friend? what was that friendship based on?

>how socially awkward are you?

Pretty.

>how do you behave around people in general?

Best way to describe it is: wooden, or robotic.

>how often do you engage other people?

Quite often. That is never the problem.

>what topics do you talk about in general?

Typical smalltalk stuff.

>have you ever had a friend?

I would rather call them acquaintances.

>what was that friendship based on?

The fact that we were in the same class. Whenever people started to form a social network which what based on shared classes, I was quickly out of the picture

Yep. Sound pretty autistic to me user. Perhaps look into social skills coaching?

what's RSD?

that explains a lot. you not having friends even in the youngest age or a close friend in general ever has definitely damaged you but you can work on that.

would you like to form a close relationship with another person at all? what kind of person do you imagine would be close to you enough for you to drop your guard and relax completely? what kind of woman would you like to have in your life?

>would you like to form a close relationship with another person at all?

Yes.

>what kind of person do you imagine would be close to you enough for you to drop your guard and relax completely?

I don't think that my guard is up. That's who I am. It's not that there is some wholesome, sympathetic person below who is hidden due to social inhibitions.

>what kind of woman would you like to have in your life?

Introverted and independent, similar interests, similar academic background.

Lost mine at 21. Guess I wasn't beyond saving after all?

ok, so at least it's clear that you do want something in life, you said earlier that you have no dreams, but it's good that you do have aspirations. make that your goal then and draw motivation from it.

so you don't feel anxiety during social interactions? you are comfortable being yourself and people just react poorly to that?

>Introverted and independent, similar interests, similar academic background.
it's good that you recognize you have interests you'd like to bond over with a woman, now you just have to figure out where you can meet women like that and try that in practice.

also, maybe it's good to be open toward women in general, even those that might seem opposite of what you're looking for and not limit yourself to rigid standards. any positive interaction would be good for you.

48 and a virgin here...
I am beyond grand wizard,
I am one with the universe and soon i will be a god.

>so you don't feel anxiety during social interactions?

Everybody does. But I am not out of the ordering and it is not my main problem. There are people who cannot connect to others because they are socially inhibited (but if you get to know and they become comfortable around you, they are great people). I am not one of them

>you are comfortable being yourself and people just react poorly to that?

Pretty much.

>it's good that you recognize you have interests you'd like to bond over with a woman, now you just have to figure out where you can meet women like that and try that in practice.

My main interests are related to sports. So I can meet women in he gym or at the crag. We simply don't connect.

34 year old virgin here. In highschool I was all about rejecting people. In college I wanted to lay low and not be observed by people.

I had a brief sprint of having a lot of women around my life, but I've never been very attractive and I've never had a lot of motivation in that area. I also have some morals, ethics, and standards, like when a friend's wife propositioned me I said no. Or several times when I was over 18 and someone that was under-age was interested I said no. That latter bit I kinda regret because she was only 4 years younger and by now it wouldn't have mattered at all, but at the time 20/16 didn't make sense. Then there was a girl 12 years younger when I was 27, but I stand by that decision. Sadly someone else did not, and she kinda ruined her life that way.

Probably should have slept with a girl that was my age when we were about 16. She offered. I freaked out and ran.

Nowadays it just seems impossible. Sex seems like something inferior people chase after. I feel almost holy, like I constantly succeed without even having to try. Being inured to life, stoic, acting without societal limitations is great. That said, it also makes life feel like it's "done". Like the next state is death, and anything else that happens in between does not matter.

Teach me your ways master....

Man, you need to get laid

Are you for real?

well, try meeting women in other places, try bonding over other side interests. try adapting to them and their interests, you might find yourself pleasantly surprised once you get over that first wall most people put up front with strangers and see something you like under.

it seems to me you are rigid in your stances by nature, but part of that definitely comes from your poor self image and low opinion about yourself. you have to make compromises, be more open, expand your pool of women you'd want to meet and suppress your expectations.

28 yo here
is it realistic for me to ever hold a girl's hand?

Do you have any standards? Like a 1/10 or 2/10 woman wanted to have sex would you do it?

Also If a passable tranny (with neovagina ), who was good looking wanted to have sex with you would you do it?

>well, try meeting women in other places, try bonding over other side interests. try adapting to them and their interests, you might find yourself pleasantly surprised once you get over that first wall most people put up front with strangers and see something you like under.

I actually like cooking a lot. So I went to a few cooking courses in the last few years (which are heavily skewed towards women). Likewise, I did some yoga classes recently to improve my flexibility. Did some smalltalk, nothing came out of it.

If i was you i would just rape the hottest woman i see and then kill myself

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>You sound pretty german/austrian..
Do you only want to fuck someone, or a girlfriend?

>Do you have any standards? Like a 1/10 or 2/10 woman wanted to have sex would you do it?

Since I am reasonably athletic, I have certain limitations when it comes to weight.

>Also If a passable tranny (with neovagina ), who was good looking wanted to have sex with you would you do it?

I find having sex with a neovagina kind of creepy. Sorry.

I am super German.

>Do you only want to fuck someone, or a girlfriend?

Either.

Well, so that expains everything, i know some germans, and they are fucking creepy and boring, so its clear now

You came up with the idea, first get your phd and then every problem will be solved, right?

ok, it's good that you're attempting stuff. you need to keep doing that and something will happen eventually. try advancing it past the small talk, try connecting on a more personal level...you are far from hopeless.

holy shit you are 35 and give a shit about a picture that detailed describes the years of ages 13 to 17 and which skips everything from 20 to 30 wtf.

this shitty pic affected me in 2009 when i was 17 holy fuck

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Basically impossible at this point. I honestly held off from fornicating in any form because I had a death date in mind, though now I've passed it a bit. Same reason I can't have a pet. I have to be ready to go at any time.

but havent you never thought about the idea going on vacation with a girlfriend, go to the sea, make love with her???

No. I didn't think that. A bio PhD is not worth a lot, and I knew that. But I at least hoped to get some steady job out it.

The image is obviously bait.

i which speciality is the bio phd?
molecular?

No. I'm not sure why you think that would be important.

Officially, it's a PhD in medical science. Since I was working at a medical university. Topic was genomics of pancreatic cancer.

: D
funny, i research during my studies in that kind of topic. which university?
so there should be no problem for a job, i know a diffrent kind of groups in austria, probably you should ask some universities there, it isnt that hard.

23 yo kissless virgin here: never had a gf.
Never pursued one either.
But unlike OP I actually don't really give a shit about getting laid. I have more interesting things to do.

After that, I was doing a postdoc in the US (Sloan Kettering). Didn't find a job after that. Went back to Germany and decided I wanted to leave academia. Began applying full time to industry positions. Crickets.

fuck, didnt know it's that hard with phd,
is it for all biology students that hard?

Most from my old class are still postdocing and can't get out of the circle.

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read his field-reports.
then apply to some pu workshop anywhere, know in london are some good, a bit expensive, but will solve your problems.
and go crazy

RSD = Remeber to Suck Dicks

Guys, I need clarification on my case:
I only "slept" one time with a woman. I put my penis in her, it was halferect. I didn't feel anything and I didn't cum. Am I still a virgin or does it count?