Socialism is not possible.
Logic.
Socialism is not possible
ITT: JIDF weekend edition
Socialism is workers owning businesses.
It's called a co-op, America has thousands.. They do very well for the workers.
Socialism existed before capitalism.
It's worked in hundreds of countries.
Of course it's possible, it just doesn't work in the long term.
Go to sleep
Only being robbed exists then?
The United States is far too diverse and large population wise for socialism to ever work. we are not homogenous in the slightest, most intensely diverse country on the planet in everywhere by light years. No way it would even be stable let alone possible in the United States
Well considering every attempt at it is undermined from the outside, often violently, then yeah its not going to work. Oddly enough small co ops don't work when their government is being overthrown by us backed terrorists or under harsh embargos.
member when Yea Forums got tricked into voting for trump by russian trolls, privet comrade
Fuck all this political shit, who has her newdz, wamna se dem tits. Shes an idiot, but she could be bread.
You're American. You haven't the slightest clue what socialism is, yet alone if its possible or not.
the instant anyone even mentions the word you lot end up in cold sweats, screaming about communism, Venezuela, and having to eat dogs.
Meanwhile every single developed nation in Europe, the far east, Australia, Canada, and the likes, with their democratic socialist policies are laughing at you for not having any clue what you're talking about...
Let us not forget all the benevolent dictators that never considered the n themselves as being above their people, and thus never lived luxurious lives while their people ate dogs and trash. When those evil US backed terrorists over throw then, THATS why socialism fails. SMH #mericasoevil
It's just not possible when dealing with giant numbers like large nation populations. The most expensive welfare state needs $44B a YEAR, to function. The simple socialist idea of $1K a month from Wang, will cost $300B a MONTH. That's not sustainable.
>The United States is far too diverse and large population wise for socialism to ever work.
Yet it works in India, with a population 3x that of the US, and a range from Tamils in the south to Farsi in the north, and a working nationalised, socialist healthcare system?
I suppose if you have to make implausible and comical excuses, its one, that the US is incapable of managing what the fucking Indians manage.
Lol, and so your argument os peer pressure? That's why Socialism is great? Are you 13?
Its working in India? Where there is nearly NO middle class? Lmao. Riiiiiight.
That sound like counter revolutionary talk OP, careful #Sandy2024 don't send you to Gulag
(she already making a list, been naughty user?)
>Implying I want my country to adapt to the societal practices of a country whose people prefer to shit in the streets.
>Socialism is workers owning businesses.
Lol. The opposite, retard.
You don't get to redefine something.
Socialism, in the end, is GOVERNMENT owning everything.
Shouldn't there be an age minimum here? Or at least an IQ minimum. This dumb fucker should not even be allowed to talk.
And what exactly do Indians get? As I said above, just $1K a month to everybody in the US, 324M, would be an astronomically huge number by the end of a year.
Really? It's "working" in india? Have you ever BEEN to india? Hell have you ever even seen pictures?
YES! Of course it is possible, and it is coming, whether you like it or not. We millenials are taking over and we want everything for free. Free medical, free education, free food, and we want you older generations to pay for it and to work for US! We are more than you soon and will vote it and make it happen. Your end is near. You build nothing.
>Implying you cant even manage to do what a nation shits in the street has done, you mean?
I mean, the bar is pretty low, and yet Americans cant even manage to do better than fucking India......
Democratic socialism, however, which is was AOC stands for, is entirely possible and successful in the countries that implement it. If you're fear-mongering over Socialism, you've bought into Biased propoganda.
Source: worldpopulationreview.com
>it is coming, whether you like it or not
This should be the official slogan of the DNC, kek.
bro... india is a disgusting impovershed country
this socialism is the people owning nothing and depending entirely on the government
it is complete government control disguised by a misnomer title
it has also been tried many times and has always failed miserably
this is about the most retarded idea of a societal construct that ever existed and it is not surprising the idiot politicians pushing it are power mongers who in real life have never accomplished anything
yeah, we should reform our most powerful country and biggest economic power on the planet because some C student slutty bartender from libtard central in the pit of the country (NY) tells us she knows better
India is a fucking toilet.
The people there do not give a shit about anyone except themselves.
Okay, now define democratic socialism.
Dem Titties
> just $1K a month to everybody in the US, 324M, would be an astronomically huge number by the end of a year.
the United states has a federal budget for 2018 of 3.9 *trillion* dollars.
3,900,000,000,000 dollars.
that is an "astronomically huge number. $12037 per citizen of the US. an order of magnitude greater than the amount you are saying is impossible.
Are you saying that the US cannot manage to make a annual budget, because that is such an unimaginable number to you, tha they cant do it?
Because you know, they do. Every year. Every year they spend 10X as much as you claim is impossible to manage.
Its hardly a convincing argument you have there.
and that's before you factor in that as a union of states, it would be a State matter, so the maximum would be the 40-odd million of CA being administrated by a state government.
If the UK, or Germany, or France can all manage to run such policies with populations of 60-ish million, then why are the US' states incapable?
No shit that’s the whole point. Democratic Party has ruined minds. Lol they try and play the silent game as if the rest of the country has no idea about their political mystery/plot. Point is nobody has the time nor the money to give a fuck.
Lol most Americans dont know that their government propaganda to keep then slaving away for their 1% is pretty much the laughing stock of other first world countries that successfully practice things like universal healthcare. Don't pop their bubble.
Socialism has literally never worked in a single country on the planet in history.
If you say it has then I'd like you to name just one.
It is if we enslave people.
Our own government and agencies are who caused 9/11, have them brain dead fucks pay off the debt. God damn Nazis.
Don't know if my math is right, my calculator had an aneurysm, but $300B a month looks to be literally $3.9T a year.
>democratic socialism
Definition: Something that does not exist. Two diametrically opposed words put together by a politically far-left band of dimwits in America to try to avoid the tower of facts that prove socialism has repeatedly failed throughout all of history since its inception to date.
imagine thinking your going to have functioning country if your going to give a universal living wage for free to everyone for doing nothing, high tier retard logic
lol
no such thing, dumbass
Well, this thread is the Jews...
another fucking faggot with zero clue of the distinction between socialism and social democracy
hey dumbshit, I'm an American and moved to Canada a few years ago on a contract that was supposed to last a few months- I loved it so much I decided to stay here, and I'm never looking back. I'll explain why this social democracy works. Less wealth gap, sturdier middle class, safest rated banks, less poverty, less crime, higher life expectancies, healthier, less tense cultural experience, cleaner neighborhoods, nicer roads, laissez faire attitudes and weed federally legal- cops can get baked here. All this and they still manage free basic health services, which are a goddamned right owed to you by the society you contribute to.
Higher taxes, yes, but to be honest, given the overall quality of life and cost of living here, I am more prosperous, happier, and fitter than I ever was living in the US.
Keep surfing your delusion
That's correct
Poly Sci Ph.D. here. I have no idea why some people are saying "democratic socialism" as they either do not understand that those are two completely different in terms of socioeconomic constructs and could not be more different in ultimately the types of governance that results. Frankly, the two are not even in the same category, nor the same universe when political scientists talk. People sound really ignorant when they put those two together.
It's like saying what is the best fruit? And you say "shoes".
Hint: Socialism is economic system where the government controls everything, while democracy is a political ideology. The two are completely different.
omfg, there it is
you are retard confirmed
I'm a little off. I used the numbers saved in the app when I calculated 324M * 1000. Another user said the $1K a month was only for 18-65, which would be 30%ish lower than the original number I got. It would still be 80% of our current yearly budget though.
>it’s called a co-op, America has thousands
>co-op’s are socialism
>America has socialism
>WE NEED SOCIALISM IN AMERICA
Honest to god, do you have a single brain cell that doesn’t contradict itself?
yes, please stay out of the top tier
enjoy being a fag, owned by fags from a fag leader, in faganada (which has aspired to be the U.S. its whole life, lol)
dumbass
Possible? Perhaps not. But this guy has been quality trolling Unite State for some time now...
Kid, everybody in the thread thinks you are retarded. You should just shut your little computer down and go cry. You've been thoroughly humiliated here. Go read a book and try to get smart, maybe?
You are literally too dumb to even be on Yea Forums. Go make up fake government terms like "democratic socialist" and explain it to your therapy group as your reason for butthurt.
You're a loser. And dumb.
Putting Democratic in front of it doesn't change the nature of socialism. It just means you keep the majority of the population ignorant enough to vote for it.
FOUND THE RETARD!
He's prolly gonna say he moved to Canada, lol.
Is this copypasta? Please be copypasta
the point is you CAN'T put "democratic" in front of "socialism"
they are two entirely different things
how fucking stupid are these people?
let me add another crucial fucking detail which is that Canadians are free to pursue business opportunities just like their US counterparts, have mansions, drive Audis. The type of socialism existing here is completely unrelated to what you see in Venezuela, which is more an authoritarian kleptocracy than anything resembling a social democracy. So that is another dumb ass simpleton comparison which needs to be debunked.
The main difference tho is the mentality. Americans pursuit of money as a way of life, and their equating happiness with money, is to me a total dead end. One can live in a system that values entrepreneurship, and allows people creative freedom to make cool shit - and still take care of those who are disenfranchised.
Everybody I know here has a nice place, and then a second home or cottage on one of the surrounding lakes. That's normal here. The country is not falling to shreds- it's just full of way more grounded people
Lol. The U.S. kicked you out and banished you to Canada! Dumb fucker: go on your own canadian Yea Forums board. Oh, that's right, no money, no website, no nothing, just fags running everything and pissing down your back and telling you it's raining. Tell us more about "better"?
Whatever imbecile said democratic socialism is a thing is about 3 months late to the debate. Even the politicians that coined that nonsense phrase have since backpeddled on it and admitted there is no such thing. All the economists and media jumped all over this (even the liberal media) and made a mockery of this (honestly retarded) mishmash of words.
Even that retard Elizabeth Warren has completely backpeddled on this and since stated affirmatively that she is not a democratic socialist and doesn't even know what that means.
You forgot to mention the most government regulation of personal life, no gun rights, no freedom of belief, and you can be sent to prison for disagreeing with the government.
No thank you
> 'democracy' a form of government where citizens exercise power through voting.
> 'socialism' an economic and social system where productive capacities are collectively owned.
Hope that helps...You fucking, dumb, nigger.
Free basic healthcare is shit. I've waited 3 hours in a waiting room with people coughing all over me, only to be told by the doctor he's not sure whats wrong, but heres some painkillers. I've been tempted to cross the border and just pay to use the US services. Be faster and probably better.
As for the rest it depends what part of the country you are in. Also baked cops doesn't seem like a plus to me.
Goddamnit you’re mad af. Are you okay?
Fascism, Capitalism, Dictators and Oligarchs always works.
>the point is you CAN'T put "democratic" in front of "socialism"
>they are two entirely different things
>how fucking stupid are these people?
Apparently the 300 million people living in democratic socialist nations like:
Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, the United Kingdom, Netherlands, Germany, Poland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Austria, Czech Republic, France, Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, the balkan states and the baltic states, Canada, South Korea, Japan, and New Zealand are all "Fucking stupid"
Couldnt possibly be that you havent a clue what a Social Democrat political party is, could it? No. 300+ million are all stupid, not you, champ.
"Democratic Socialist" is an oxymoron Liberals peddle to sheep to put lipstick on a pig and tell them it is a goose and lays golden eggs.
Tell me... were you born retarded or does it come naturally to you? Tell me where in the definition of socialism does it mention government?
yeah, well it's called basic for a reason. I get my private as well through employment - easily and readily available thru work or if you pay just as u would in the US, for similar 'higher level' benefits...
Basic is crucial because if u dont have that- but you have a real fuckin emergency tho, not a stupid cough but like cancer or heart attack or chopped off leg or what not- they don't bill your uninsured ass tens of thousands of dollars like they do in the US
It sucks when Democrats logically destroy me.
>how many people have starved under those systems
Heyy!...he was behind of this...
Lol. You do understand that this term did not even exist a few years ago. Stop believing shit liberals make up on the internet and post in wikipedia. This has been debunked a million times, kid.
There is no such think as "democratic sociliast". Look it up. The concepts do not even coincide.
Let me make this simple for you: If you are a socialist, you are already in a democracy. Dumbass. You are mixing two completely different concepts. Why not just say this is "automobile car"? Yes, we know a car is an automobile. We know socialism is a form of democracy. Jesus, you people are dumb.
there's virtually no crime in my town bro, so baked cops is ideal to the brutal power trips i'd always get from cops I dealt with in NY
they cant smoke when on duty anyway
not him, but you aren't helping yourself constantly not responding substantively and instead slinging ad hominems like a child
fyi, you lost this argument a long time ago
so did everybody that claimed there was such a thing
not even sure why you would try to resurrect a dead body
>The term did not exist before
>The concept never existed
OMG you fucking retards don't know nuance in political discourse whatsoever.
Social democracies are real, and work all over the world.
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM is not the correct term for them however.
It's an annoying distinction of terms but its a real distinction
theatlantic.com
he is right about this being a term invented only in the past year though
it's been written about extensively
>Calling me out for using ad hominem
>Not realizing that the person I replied to used ad hominem
It is possible. Every scenario can be. Though the chances of each vary wildly and don't always work when implemented.
pretty sure that was his point
i guess you are fucking dumb
you missed even that
So do they have to wait the 30 day for it to get out of their system? If it is still in your system it is still affecting you, so they are still impaired and I wouldn't trust their judgement.
>TIL Canada has no freedom of belief.
and med prices, forget about it. My nerve blocker costs 350$ in US uninsured, 1 months supply, here it's rightly valued to reflect cost of manufacture, 35$.
Nobody can excuse that disparity in price away, it's a fucking crime what they do down in the US
I'm german.
I do not have to worry about medical bills.
I do not have to worry that my son will get shot in school.
Schools teach science including evolution and sex ed.
I can walk in the streets at night without worries.
I can legally drink beer since 16.
You can study without having to pay ten thousands of bucks.
I can legally fuck 16 yo bitches.
Our voting system isnt a giant joke with gerry mandering and all that bullshit.
No one can take my right to vote away under any circumstances.
Dicks don't get mutilated at birth.
Is it perfect here? Hell no.
Is life better here than in your shithole? Hell yeah. I don't care how you define it or what terms you use. What ever it is I live in, it fucking works well.
Isn't it weird how Americans are fine with having their power delivered by a state-administered electricity grid, shitting into a state-administered sewage system that cleans up their shit, wash their hands in the freshwater delivered by their state-administered water services. Then enjoy sending their children to a state-administrated school all the way to a collage level, driving them there on roads which are built and maintained by the state administration, protected by state-administrated police and fire services.
but the moment you mention that they might want to think about getting healthcare from the state, they start screaming about how evil Socialism is?
Its almost like they haven't a clue what it is, but have been brainwashed by 50+ years of propaganda by a private healthcare industry who would lose profits if their captive market realised how badly they're getting stiffed over compared to the rest of the world.
What point was that? An user made a good argument and another user hurled ad hominem attacks at him.
You literally stated that HE lost the argument.
And capitalism isn't sustainable. If only both ideologies were combined. Omg
Who is going to pay for the wall?
dude, and yet a cop can come to work hungover as fuck if he wants to, after being completely drained by ethanol toxicity the night before, or fat as fuck from beer and donuts--- but weed, which isnt toxic, is going to somehow impair you more the next day and thus should be made illegal for cops to smoke during their down time?
You have no fucking clue what you're on about , my man. And obviously do not smoke or understand how marijuana affects you.
>believing everything said some communist shill
just as dense as a lib
Socialism is an inevitability. If machine's take over all our work, especially if A.I becomes our doctors, programmers, craftsmen, constructions workers, etc, etc, then we're going to have a huge amount of unemployed people
I have seen them send people to prison for ordering music banned by the government. You can believe what the government tells you or go to prison, so no they don't have freedom of belief.
yea no shit, I don't know what drives so many Americans stubbornness to remain stupid
GoFundMe supposedly.
Plenty of workers in the movie Idiocracy.
Eventually, they will have to implement a Universal Income
What was this banned music?
literally impossible, they've become brainwashed beyond the point of reason. your average conservative is as blindly dedicated to his party as the extreme left sjws literally hated by everyone in both parties.
You mean the ones who water the plants with Gatorade?
The gov cant/wont take that money and the GoFundMe has already been changed for something else and refunds were offered.
Who the fuck is this person
Yeppers.
This Every libtard screaming about their "socialism". Dumbfucks.
lol are you trolling?
I've fucking hunted BEAR here you dumbass! Live in a neighborhood with churches, mosques, Buddhist temples and they even allow psychedelic indigenous sacrements. Sent to prison for disagreeing with the govt??? What in the actual fuck narcotic are you on
have you actually ever looked at a map before or are you somehow confusing trudeau with kim jong un
If they show up hungover they will get sent home with no pay for the day. Weed is just as toxic as alcohol or any other drug. And yes I was stupid and smoked weed when I was younger, then I learned the truth.
Propaganda.
same reason they're utterly convinced the rest of the world is less "free", without ever being able to say what they think the rest of the developed world can/cant do
Libtards should never be allowed to talk. Nothing comes out of their mouths but lies. Nothing but lies.
wow, the russiabots and JIDF really dont like it when you punch a hole in their bullshit arguments, huh. I like how all the responses except one are complete non-argument insulting responses.
So take away Trump's phone.
Mainly RAC and Oi bands. White power music for all you morons that don't know what I am talking about.
I'd like a source other than a faceboom page called bibleandreligion for these claims, please. unless you cant find any?
> Socialism is workers owning businesses
It's literally not, that's why it's a bad idea you twat
Please someone tell me that there are not people who actually believe that? There must be some limit to stupidity.
"politics.bibleandreligion" lmfao holy shit mate.
what a time to be alive
sorry but alcohol has killed and will continue to kill and disable way more people than marijuana
marijuana becomes toxic to the body only if concentrated and then overdosed on, quite a hard thing to do. Concentrates are not legal here. A little weed flower, grown cleanly and correctly without a bunch of pesticides, this will not harm you the same way even a single shot of whiskey will.
Even that, the harm is negligible unless it's abused, and that is where problem lies with any substance. A cop who uses either responsibly and doesn't come to work high or drunk the next day is fit for duty in my book (and the federal govt book so case closed anyway)
>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership
You were saying?
Hell the government there even nullified a man's will because they didn't like who he left his money to. Try keeping that gun in your possession in a city.
i like how some people saying socialism is bad because it's the government taking away our rights are also the same people wishing trump would declare martial law.
I think by definition, it actually is.
Just so nobody has to google it so that we can stay on topic, first result says "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
This suggests that means of production will be owned equally by both the state and the individuals who are involved/employed there; ie. the whole community.
I feel like we're using socialism and communism interchangeably, and I think it is unreasonable to use examples like venezuela just for saying they're socialist when really their politics would suggest otherwise.
I'm also open to being wrong about everything I've just said, but I would like some sort of evidence to suggest otherwise rather than just feelings or anecdotal evidence.
B-B-BUT D.A.R.E TAUGHT ME TO NEVER DRINK A WINE COOLER OR SMOKE A SINGLE WEED
"Socialism is not possible."
-user on communications tool invented with tax dollars
why would I keep my gun in possession in Montreal? I don't hunt in Montreal. This is far safer than any equal sized US city, so if you mean I need out of fear for my fellow man, I feel sorry for you lol
>The means of production, distribution and exchange
The public roads literally give us that means.
That clean flower you are talking about still produces tar and other toxics when burned, just like that other natural product tabacco.
socialism is government owning the business retard.
I'm sure that if they were listening to that music privately, without infringing on the rights of others, they wouldn't have been arrested. Were they listening to it at a reasonable volume in their own house?
Because basically, your friends had rights, but so do everyone else, and if you play racially charged music loudly, or in public, then you are actually infringing on the rights of others. That's not the state trying to control you, that't the state protecting the rights of all individuals equally. I think that many people feel uncomfortable listening to "white supremacy" music.
Didn't realize alexander graham bell and tim-berners lee got government funding to invent the phone and internet
Hey commie fucks, just saying. We still rule the world both economically and militarily.
this thread was fun
With the power of debt.
no, you're confusing that with communism, as your masters have desired. You are buying into fear mongering. Read a non-biased book about communism and then democratic socialism. There are thousands of differences.
For me it is more fear of an oppressive government.
>economically
not really
>militarily
china has a bigger military
thats why I said vape, asshole, doesnt combust
>40% taxes for public education, infrastructure, limited healthcare, etc
God Bless America
>50% taxes for public education, infrastructure, full healthcare, etc
Impossible socialist nightmare
Yeah, so we should illegalize tobacco.
They weren't listening to it yet. They ordered it and when the government discovered it in the mail, they were arrested. You can be arrested there for having White Nationalist beliefs.
well that's batshit crazy my friend because there is no militia that would best a govt of either canada or the US pentagon , if it ever came down to that, which it wont , but say hi to the reservation for me
taxes aren't 40%
Then that is very disturbing.
u dont live in NYC do u lol
No, why would you? Totally overrated. I live in Missouri, where taxes are the lowest in the country. Move. Unless you're a sissy and can't stomach being without your starbucks
that is an odd and unique case which I havent heard of and would want to see articles backing this up. Even if it happened, is not the norm, and yes hate speech is not protected in Canada just as it isn't in the US
That depends on how much of the military and police join the revolution. They didn't believe a bunch of farmers in southeast Asia could defeat the US military and look what happened.
born and raised , cant leave, love it too much
Starbucks? lol u obviously never leave ur little shit town countryboy, because if u havent noticed us hipsters have moved way past 2nd wave starbucks to hand picked organic peaberries from ethiopia and shit now, none of that howard schultz's burnt coffee no more thx
Who buys 1/3 to 1/2 of their goods? Us because we're consumer whores. When our economy finally collapses (it will, eventually because of welfare niggers) the whole global economic system will go into depression.
Best Air Force? US. Best Navy? US. Our Navy basically rules the world. When we finally collapse because of our godless decadence (20 years max) the rest of the world will spiral into chaos. Pay your respects, Fatality.
ugh
I'm somehow picturing you as Walter from the big lebowski
So you consider music "hate speech"? That is a made up term with no definition the left uses to demonize people they disagree with. Yes it is protected in the US, that is why they can't refuse us permits to hold rallies.
economy will collapse, again, due to bullshit whiskey dick cowboy economic practices by criminal banks and their ratings agencies cronies, just like the last time and the last time and the last time ... lol people in America and their thing against socialism, dont even realize their banks have been hijacked and turned into casinos behind their backs.
Wait for it, you'll see it again likely later this year
>Socialism is workers owning businesses.
Stop trying to impose your stupid economic philosophy by pretending it's something it's not
Never seen it so can't really comment.
>the left
Is that you Friar Tuck?
No, but I like most of his commentary. He is just not far right enough for me. I am straight up White Nationalist.
>"And who will pay for the wall?"
Kek
You realize that hate crime is an enhancement to the crime? Nothing to do with free speech.
With music it's a case of having to hear it and understanding intent. Which is why Im asking for article backing that up, as u bring this up now only to prop up your completely inane argument that Canada is somehow less free than the US.
I'm not for artistic censorship, however if it galvanizes white nationalists into committing murder or hate crimes, yea I would want that off limits. Just as you probably wouldn't want some arabesque koran infidel white hating music widely available
Now that they filed forfeiture on El Chapo, I guess he will. That is what the bill introduced by Ted Cruze says anyway.
Define socialism
That is what it was supposed to be, but now they claim any speech they don't like as hate speech so they can block it. That is what alot of people are being deplatformed on Facebook for. This is one of the last true free speech zones.
I guess we'll see Ted Cruz being beheaded in a rekt thread here.
Diamond & Silk are still on Facebook and Laura Loomer still has her Twitter account.
Sorry.
They started banning anything from distributors like Resistance and other White Nationalist outlets in the mid to late 90's. The nullifying of the guys will happen last year. He left his money to National Alliance and the government had the courts nullify the will because they didn't want the money going to a White Nationalist group. I don't have specific articles right now so you will have to look it up. No, I wouldn't want anybody's music or speech banned. As long as they don't interfere with me and mine I don't care what they do or say.
yea i personally feel the world and country would be better without Yea Forums ....
I don't know who they are. I was talking about Spencer and Jones and a bunch of non celeb people from stormfront and National Alliance.
So. They imported contraband materials (seditious white power propaganda "music") into the country of Canada, which is a violation of Canadian customs code, and were jailed. Was it their third offense, or were they importing quantity to distribute?
90's was a long time ago, and things certainly change. I never have walked around in North America feeling as free, and not fucked with, threatened by crime or cops or anybody , as I have walking around Canada these last few years.. Literally my pavlovian instinct kicked in here the first week I was in canada with a run in with the traffic police, expecting typical american submit-and-open your ass treatment, instead they were so apologetic for bothering for something that turned out to be no reason, that I had to laugh when I left.
i study economics
social-capitalism is totally possible
socialism or communism arent
actually the best current system is social-capitalism or welfare-capitalism
George Orwell wrote cautionary tales, not construction manuals
of course the problem is that you have the welfare capitalism of sweden, and the welfare capitalism of argentina where it doesnt make sense at all
I don't know if they were caught before. I was pointing out that they didn't have free speech and freedom of belief, which you just confirmed.
Funny, that just looks like not letting riffraff cross the border from my point of view. It's their country.
If they violated T&C then they get banned. Same as Yea Forums. Plenty of far wing faggots spewing hate still have Facebook and Twitter accounts.
Alex Jones violated T&C. Simple as that.
Yeah it is great if you believe exactly like they want you to. Just don't get any radical ideas, do what you are told and you will be fine.
Yeah, he violated it by saying things the leftest didn't like and by having a large audience to hear it.
And if enough people wanted to change the law, they could. That's how Societal Standards and Democracy work together. Apparently, enough people in Canada decided white power BS was more harmful than giving up the "right" to believe in it.
Although, in the end, I don't see how keeping an item from being imported unduly impairs (your) right to believe in the concept behind said item.
But we say we don't want riffraff I our country and we are racist haters? Double standard much?
Laura Loomer has a large audience.
Sorry again.
Again, I don't know who that is. I guess I will have to listen to her and see.
She is as bad as Alex Jones.
Well I am shutting down for the night. I leave you with a big 14/88 and good night.
Before you go watch this
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Good night.
Socialism is state/public ownership of the means of production. It has existed, and can exist. It's just shit in comparison to the productivity created by private ownership of the means of production.
I don't want riffraff in our country either; we just have different ideas of what riffraff entails. Me? I don't like peeps who make undue trouble for my fellows of any color or status. And I don't mind if you don't like me. Big enough country for that.
And I won't dream of telling you how to think, but think twice about how you act if you don't want to be thought of as antisocial.
Productivity does not directly translate to good quality of life for the majority. Nor has it ever.
None of those countries are socialist, or even democratic socialist. Social democracies, maybe, but that's just a shit way of saying capitalism with a welfare state. And in case you're retarded or something, you should know that socialism and welfare are not even remotely the same thing.
funny enough the co-op in my hometown went bankrupt last year and refused to give me my money back for my share, despite the fact that i tried to sell it back to them before they declared bankruptcy. lol
Socialism will absolutely do the same to this country. Every country that's even remotely close to our size that's tried this has failed miserable and left death and despair in its path.
pic related this is the good shit that capitalism has given us, in all its glory. If you don't like it, pack your fucking bags, roodypoo.
Shit tastes, Amerifat. Also shit understanding of history, but not surprising with what passes for "Education" these days in 'Murrikkka.
Literally not once.
It's far better than starvation and mass oppression. Which is the result of socialism, every time.
There's a reason that every Western capitalist society has adopted strong welfare policies. It's the natural progression of capitalism-- create wealth, then pull up the lower classes. It has been the way it's gone for hundreds of years now. The poorest Murrican is wealthier and better off than most of the aristocracy in the middle ages, and all but the dictatorial class in socialist countries.
The welfare state is the solution to the flaws of capitalism. It's not perfect, but it's a hell of s lot better than anything else that's ever been tried.
Capatalism is owning buisness and tradmarking your name, creations, etc.
Socialism is a way for poor people to be given stuff freely for "human rights" like free education at universitys, health care, etc. I think water is a human right too own. I dont consider a doctor visit because you think you have cancer when you have a cyst or some dumb shit to be mandotory right as humans. Pay uo for services. Panera bread already proved socialism is a highly abusable system for bums to get stuff out of the working class who will be paying for it even if they dont want too.
>There's a reason that every Western capitalist society has adopted strong welfare policies.
Yes. that's called being a social democrat.
the worker's right laws, which mean you only work a 40 hour week then get overtime? Socialist unions.
the safety rights, that your employer doesnt lock the doors to the factory, trapping you in unable to take a break... or escape a fire? Socialist Unions.
the maternity rights, the sufferage rights, the rights to a tribunal if unfairly dismissed, etc etc, etc, have all been won by socialists, fighting for rights that the capitalists would rather you dont have.
unless you are a billionaire employing thousands, opposing socialist democracy is literally voting against your own best interests.
> Denmark is democratic socialist
> Denmark's PM comes out and states they're not socialist
> Nordic Model has a higher economic freedom index than the united states
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