Sup Yea Forums? Any anons out there have experience with kratom or phenibut? Been interested in trying it for a while...

Purkratom is amazing, especially compared to the junk my local gas station sells. Any is good though, just always measure your doses and be aware that for me I start getting withdrawals at anything above like 4g, insomnia and overall pain and confusion. I do love it for working though, no nausea for me but everything it touches will become numb.

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kratom is enjoyable for most people when they get the dosage right but too much will make you feel like royal ass and depending on the strain it can be very fuzzy and hazy. phenibut is eh but people's responses to GABAergics greatly vary but either way don't fuck with it self medication is a gateway to addiction and you don't want to be addicted to some poorly studied ghetto USSR shit like phenibut if you're going to go down that road then volumetric dose some etizolam, a benzo mostly legal analogue that's much safer, in a PG solution instead and remember that withdrawals can kill you and physiological addiction can happen within a couple weeks of regular use

I used phenibut to kick alcohol. It makes you feel a little drunk. Gives you energy and makes you more social. It's easy to build a tolerance for it and if you take too much you'll feel sad once you're down. Paring it with a amino acid is great

Interesting and thanks for the info. Im more interested in trying kratom than phenibut. So you can still develope a physical addiction to kratom. I also have an addictive personality so is kratom something that should be used sparingly and cautiously, like here and there or can daily use become dangerous?

Avoid the vape pen Kratoms at all cost. Shits a waste of space.

kratom withdrawal is uncomfortable but not life threatening as far as I'm aware but it is a depressant and is very similar to opioids but much less intense so don't mix it with anything

I would strongly advice anyone who even THINKS they have an addictive personality to stay away from any drug that acts on the opioid system, kratom most definitely included.

I am using green and red kratom.
Green usually in the morning and red in the evening.
For me green is activating and giving me energy, but not too much like the white strains. It is also calming me down at the same time, helping me focus.
White strains though activate my paranoia and make my brain go nuts.
The red strains calm me down and help me sleep.

Phenibut is god. You will have the freedom to express yourself socially. I wouldn't do it more than once a week though because the tolerance is rubbish. Also, don't drink heavily while on the stuff or else will automatically black out. Too much phenibut alone can actually give you an alcohol-like hangover

Kratom will almost certainly cause a pseudo-opioid-like high. It also might cause severe insomnia, no matter what strain, if taken within a few hours of bedtime. No sleeping pill in the world will cure kratom insomnia if it happens to you.

Kratom sucks i have to take a fuck ton before any real effects

Kratom can be very addictive I have a addictive personality red veins will also make you gain a lot of weight white is supposed to make you lose weight but I’m not so sure when I used kratom heavily and had to stop due to going to military there were a lot of nights without sleep honestly if you start it do low doses and give a lot of breaks between that shits expensive especially when you’re addicted like I used to buy the 100g tea and that’d last a Day that’s a good 30$ for shit taste just to feel normal

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Good to know. Am still interested in trying it but I don't want to trade 1 vice for another.
So is kratom similar to weed as well. Can it invoke panic attacks? Is green stain like a sativa and red is like indica?

I see. I already have a naturally higher tolerance to most drugs. Used to be able to drink nearly 5th of alcohol. When I broke my ankle I had to take 30-40mg of oxi to have a high and I don't really fuck with opiods. Sounds like it could develope into an expensive habit

So phenibut is a very energetic feeling similar to Adderall or Xanax?

Kratom is nice but don't expect too much from it. It just gives you a nice glow.

Take it on an empty stomach. Then eat something 30-45 minutes later. I find it helps with nausea.

Nicotine tends to cause me to become extremely nauseous if used within ~24 hours of kratom. It brings me to the point of actually throwing up. Super nasty if there is still kratom in your stomach. It's very bitter after stewing for a bit.

I've never experienced any real sedative effects. Different strains from different sources. Large variations in dose. All seem to give a similar energy. I have been able to go 48 hours without sleep without feeling too tired.

Toss and wash was the best method of ingestion I have found. It's not fun, though. Don't try to force too much down in a single swallow or you get it stuck in your mouth and throat.

Pills are far less nasty but you need to consume a handful of them and tend to be too expensive (or too labor intensive if you fill your own caps). Tea/infusions could be mixed with things to cover the taste somewhat but it will always taste bad.

I use kratom pretty frequently. start off on a low dose and move up slowly. I buy from ezkratom .com, its not the best but quality and consistent.

be careful it can be addictive if you take it daily, and always dose new batches I've had some weird ass trips, from what I've gathered some people react very differently to different strains. overall i enjoy it and its relaxing.

protip: mix it in with honey or peanut butter. if you toss and wash use orange juice its cuts down on the dryness and bitterness. I mix about 2 parts kratom to 1 part honey, then mix well. let set overnight and you can then easily dose it. I roll it up into little pill like chunks and dose it that way. Usually 50 grams of kratom will last 3-5 days depending how much you take for me.

don't try Kratom unless you are ready to cope with withdrawals... I quit K few months ago, had terrible withdrawals for 3 weeks. You will fuck up your brain chemistry if you take it every day like me (you will take it just to feel nice and later to feel normal).. just my 2c

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Question, did you start taking kratom immediately after using real opioids? Like, did you use kratom to ween off opioids?

Or did you stop taking real opioids, go through the withdrawal for a few months, and then pick up a kratom habit?

Don't do nicotine and Kratom together, makes you so nauseous

Nah, it's all body high for every strain, makes u feel safe. Little/no psychoactive effect.

shitty placebo opiate that's really addictive
just smoke weed instead.

So high is minimal at best or you'd have to consume like $10 worth for best results. I'm not surprised since you can buy the stuff in must smoke shops here in the states but the same could be said for salvia at 1 point (at least in my area)

How about retailers? Best online shop that have quality at reasonable price?

Also what is recommended methods of consumption? Should I just mix some powder in with hot water and make a tea or eat straight powder? Most people are saying to eat with an empty stomach so I suppose mixing with food is out. Many have suggested not to mix with other drugs either so should I avoid taking it with weed?

No no no. Not energetic social like Adderall. More like free thinking and free speaking like drunk, but you're in control and not sloppy