This image isn't racist at all guys

>She has had a lot given to her by our mostly white government.

Yeah, like land deals we didn't honor, smallpox, poverty, reservations, the attempts to stamp out their cultures, alarmingly high crime rates on their reservations, etc., etc.,

>stolen
Can't hear them over the incessant slurring because they're perma-drunk

It happened centuries ago and you're now sitting on that land benefiting from that seizure of land today.

We do this for BELTER INDEPENDENCE!

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Conquered, not stolen. As ALL land is. The Europeans had superior technology and culture.

I say we take back what is ours.

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and why is tha

Even saying it was purchased, I don't give two shits. Tell me one land that isn't "stolen land"? Nobody in Mexico was from that area since day 1. The Spanish came invaded and mixed with tribes who settled there and fought each other for territory and resources/food since they migrated there from Africa. The whole of human civilization is one of slaughter/conquer, take the prizes that come with the victory. The so called "indigenous people" of North America all came from somewhere else first and we just own it now. Don't cry because your ancestors got their arm twisted and cried "uncle!".

and disease! Don't forget the smallpox!

>culture
Yeah scalping women and children and eating people is such a good culture

Earth and Mars take from us Belters and see us only as beast. I sa-sa we take back and fight.

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I was considered stolen by the Mexican government. After small battles during the independence of Texas in 1836, they captured the Mexican president who was forced to sign the Velazco treaty. Obviously the US had a lot to do with the rebellion since they wanted Texas to be a part of the Nation. Texas joined the US in 1845 which pissed off the Mexicans. The US knew how pissed they were so they sent troops to the border. Neither of the sides attacked for like a month, so the general got trigger happy and called James K. Polk and told them about an attack. Polk declared war on March 13, 1456. The US won and they didn’t pay Mexico for the land, but they did pay for the damages during the war.

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>scalping women and children and eating people

God, you're an idiot. If you actually believe that this was the standard day to day lives of Native tribes before white civilization came along you should do everyone a favor and either neck yourself or read a fucking book.

Beltowda lik towchu inyalowda

The word you're looking for is conquered and bought. Not my fault her ancestors didn't put up a real fight. By her definition every country on Earth is on stolen land.

yeah it's much more civilized to round them up and execute the women and children with muskets, right?

>stolen land
Yes, land that originally belonged to the dinosaurs of North America, whose burial places were then squatted upon by Asians who crossed a land bridge.

we're talking about human cultures here user, don't make spurious comparisons.

scalping is invented by whites to count and pay for killed natives

Quite so. Besides, who even thinks about those savages anyway?

goddamn you're ignorant

That's moving the goalpost in the most racist way possible and you know it.

I wanna punch this stupid bitch. And I'm not even an American.

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Couple things.
1. Smallpox, and other disease, infections were never intentional. Unfortunately, the Europeans at the time didn't understand how contagious they were. And don't bring up the blankets. There is no documented evidence that was ever actually done. The only document is a guy clearly and obviously making a fucked up joke.
2. High crime rates on reservations aren't the responsibility of the average American, or the feds. Are they sovereign or not? If they are, then it is solely on them to patrol their own lands.
3. Yeah, the land deals and reservations were dick moves in the past. Not sure what you want done there. It is done now. They kinda can't be unconquered. At this point it wouldn't be right to give the lands back either.

This faggot doesn't own land and never has, just because your great great great great great grandad owned a field doesn't make you an entitled red-nig. My dad owned a small mechanics enterprise, doesn't make my great grandchildren entitled to his estate.

Belters are nothing but savages and uncultured animals who spent too much time in zero G that Earth can never be their home again. But they all started here and are always be apart of us. We own them.

>land deals we didn't honor

They broke nearly all of their land deals first, it was pretty commonplace for tribes to sell land in exchange for goods and then invade those lands again (killing all the people they could find on it including women and children) when they had used those goods up.

>smallpox

That wasn't given to them be the government retard, that happened centuries before.

>poverty

They literally make more in a month today than they could in a lifetime 200 years ago.

>reservations

Yeah, land that they had no right or ability to claim. The government coulda just pushed them out of the country entirely but instead (out of human goodness) set up micro-states for them to run and rule themselves to preserve their heritage.

>attempts to stamp out their cultures

Their cultures often revolved around killing innocent people through raiding, stealing horses and cattle (theft was no immoral in many of their cultures), and making attempts to exterminate all whites. Their cultures were often vile and the world was better off if they had been stamped out. Only racists would ignore history to present some sort of NOBLE SAVAGE narrative like the democrats do.

>alarmingly high crime rates on their reservations

Yeah, THEIR reservations. They're the ones doing the crime you fucking idiot, the government can't stop them from raping their own people, staring gangs to sell drugs to kids and murdering each other.

You have dumb opinions because you are a professional victim; get some help.

Should have just kept all of Mexico when the US occupied Mexico City. Probably less headache in the long run.

except that the land wasn't stolen, it was conquered fair and square.

Well she's wearing a Naruto necklace, so...

>asked unironically
wew lad

Can't feel bad for a nation of people who hated eachother as much as they hated the white man. During the same time as the Usa indian white man wars, new zealand was having the same problem. But the new zealands indians banded together to fight and preserve their heritage. Guess what, they're still here today with their own culture. Not usa indians. Fucking drunks and casino parisites. Can't respect a group of people if they dont respect their own culture.

Absolutely based. This post.

revisionist history at its finest.

Who let Grandpa on the computer? He's posting the same played out "savages" fallacies he learned in segregation era America, again.

Probably, to be honest. We could have MEGATEXAS right now, if we'd done so.

And a ton more natural resources.

We? Like you actually do something to help them lmao. Fucking Nigger

Are you seriously implying the white man is to blame for "alarmingly high crime rates" on their reservations? I've been to several reservations doing undergrad work and I never saw one white person on any reservation; not ever.
You're reaching pretty hard on most of this, too.
Smallpox? You think a bunch of pilgrims who barely knew how to bathe knew enough about sanitation and biology to actively engage in biowarfare?
Land deals gone bad? They traded "their land" for firewater, beads, and other worthless trinkets.
At what point does an entire "proud and noble" race stop whining about its collective centuries- old failure and just accept the outcome?
It's not my fault the reservations are fucked any more than it's my fault that a bunch of losers can't put down the bottle and unfuck themselves.

White man put his big dick in me. Ruin me for bull of my tribe. Force me to have tattoo and drink alcohol. I clap the thighs with white man's fat female with purple hair now.

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there's a difference between state and land

Seriously why don't we just take over Mexico and send all the Mexicans down to Venezuela with the rest of the dirty brown Spanish people that can't run a country? We could have some sweet beaches and plenty of room to build shopping malls.

Who let the manchild with a 3rd grade reading comprehension level online again?
He was posting about the LIBERAL concept of the "noble savage"
Die in a house fire, shit for brains.

You beaners and feather heads have to go back and give the white man back his land

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What does her pussy smell like?

>too stupid to argue against the arguments so calls their author a racist while smugly urinating in an empty 2L mountain dew bottle because his 375lbs ass broke the toilet and his dick is too short to reach over the sink.

hmmm, where have i seen this before?

Yes, Native Americans waged war before Europeans showed up. The evidence is especially strong in the American Southwest, where archaeologists have found numerous skeletons with projectile points embedded in them and other marks of violence; war seems to have surged during periods of drought. But as I have asserted in my book The End of War and on this site, Pinker and other Hobbesians have exaggerated warfare among early humans. These scientists have replaced the myth of the noble savage with the myth of the savage savage.

In “Indians, Slaves, and Mass Murder: The Hidden History,” a recent essay in The New York Review of Books, anthropologist Peter Nabokov notes that colonizers reduced California’s native population from 350,000 at first contact to under 17,000 by 1900. State laws allowed and even encouraged the slaughter of Native Americans. “Extermination,” Nabokov comments, was “considered no great tragedy for an entire people who were uniformly and irredeemably defined as savage and inhuman.”

Addendum: U.S. government maltreatment of Native Americans continues. A United Nations human-rights official accuses “law enforcement officials, private security firms and the North Dakota National Guard” of using “excessive force” against Native Americans and others protesting an oil pipeline that “runs through land sacred to indigenous people.”

double dubs of truth

i get being bummed. but the indians lost their land in a war with euros. it wasn't stolen, it was taken. biggity bam

It's been known for a while now that there was a previous group of humanoids present in the Americas before the (((natives))) showed up 10,000 years ago.

those monkeys are worst than niggers

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How did the Mexicans come to own that land?

Indians weren't the first ones to step foot on American soil.

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What's the difference?

The interior of an 80s Chevy pickup with a wool blanket permanently draped over the bench seat that has been drunk peed in way too many times.
aka what she drives around in on the reservation while hating the white devil and his infernal inventions.

Reminder that whites were the first people in the Americas.

telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html

This

>White people are racist! They want to keep us down!

>Leave the res?! But I'm marrying my cousin to keep the Native bloodline pure! How close? First cousins. Yeah. So are my parents and his. And my parents are first cousins with his parents. Why? We can't let interbreeding happen. It's how you dilute your racial purity.

(actual paraphrasing of Native arguments and mindsets, as seen elsewhere on the Interwebs where there are "you're not welcome if you're not Native but we'll leave it all publicly open" sites)

not revisionist. this happened.
mexico declined the US's offer to buy part of what is now ca/az/nm/tx, but mexico told the US no.
the US kicked their asses, took the land, and gave them a hell of a lot less than the initial offer mexico had declined.
Either way, mexico couldn't beat the texas national guard in a war, let alone the whole country.

>but muh stolen land
Mud bitch is too dumb to realize that it was sold by Mexico and purchased by us

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Would it have been so difficult for the Europeans to have slaughtered every last indian man woman and child? What was the sense in letting any of these savages live? And don't even get me started on letting loose 3 million former black slaves in their society. Our ancestors were fools. Look what we have to deal with now. All we need to do is solve the white traitor problem amongst us and we could easily solve the race problem. These people have no idea the storm that is brewing. If they were smart they would keep their mouths shut and be thankful their white overlords provide them with a cheque every month.

North Africa belongs to the whites too

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They fought white for it and lost.
It's called evolution.
Guns>bows
Whitey>teepee dindus

None of what you just said would prove that the other guy ain't a racist tho.

Yes revisionist. The Mexicans also came crying to the U.S. government to deal with indians attacking them.

whitey*

Ayo hol up.

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What you're saying also happened, but it's pretty much common knowledge that the mexicans fucked themselves on the deal.
Whether or not the attack that precipitated the war actually occurred on US soil was the key point in dispute, but it wouldn't surprise me if our government lied about pretenses for war back then, too.
Damn near every war we've fought has been for some bullshit reason that, ultimately, ends with lots of americans dying for lots of hajis, gooks, spics, niggers, and other assorted loser races that can't seem to fight for themselves.

And that's why you understand America and Europe actually belong to the middle east and mestizos now

These must be the people that built America's Stonehenge in New Hampshire.

>America and Europe actually belong to the middle east and mestizos now

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Feathers and campfire

The mound builders.

You wrote a book, user? Can I get a free copy?

Lol. No. That's why America and Europe are in the hands of white and not run by sand niggers and taco monkeys.

Убeй ceбя Ивaн

Yeah cause robbery isn't stealing. You know robbery is defined as taking by force right?

Not even bringing up that during the American Indian wars that Native Americans fought on the Europeans side even against their own tribes.

What?

I don't get that logic. If I broke into your house and beat you up and took your phone would that mean your phone belonged to me because we fought for it and I took it? I mean, according to our laws, ownership isn't defined by "whoever can take it" but somehow that's good enough when we talk about events that happened hundreds of years ago.

Good one
Give it a few years, you won't even be a majority in your own country soon. Your race is waving goodbye.

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Sieg Heil

>Pinker and other Hobbesians have exaggerated warfare among early humans. These scientists have replaced the myth of the noble savage with the myth of the savage savage.

This isn't about early humans, it's about native americans around the time of first contact with europeans. They regularly engaged in wars against other tribes, and often gave land to colonists in exchange for their help. This is all pretty well documented because it's recent history. Go read about the part King Phillips War played in the Salem Witch Trials as an example; it's pretty interesting.

In addition: yes, the government had laws that called for violence against natives but, 1) those were ended a long time ago and have no impact on how native teenagers live today and 2) entire native tribes revolved around the idea of killing as many whites as possible and stealing all they had; with the Apache being a great example of this. You could consider that their tribal laws and now what? both sides were racist back in an era where racism wasn't considered immoral by most. congratulations for saying absolutely nothing.

Finally; the UN is a worthless corrupt organization whose greatest achievement was giving Haiti cholera in 2012. Nothing they say should be regarded as important by anybody. And as an Arizonan, I've seen plenty of instances of native tribes claiming land to be sacred (when they never have before) the moment they see an opportunity to extort those wishing to utilize the land for useful purposes out of money, goods or just for attention. The protesters in North Dakota certainly didn't make any claims about that land being sacred when it was being dug up to install utility lines, sewage pipes and water lines. Nope, it's only when unemployed environmental activists show up to protest a pipeline but not enough attention gets paid to them that the land suddenly becomes "sacred".

You need to learn to be more skeptical of the things you read and hear from Rachel Maddow.

Everyone in the thread is retarded

That's all liberals have is some one-off web link and a "you'll see."
You've been saying the same thing about global warming since the 70s.
Fuck off with your tired rhetoric.

says the guy who contributed nothing and doesn't understand 90% of what's being posted

You tried, leftypol

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Some scholars think they were Indians but many tribal leaders have said that these burial mounds and ceremonial places were there before they inhabited the lands.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_Builders

Their point was that what happened with natives under the US is clearly worse in death toll than all the warfare that took place pre-colonization, hence,
>colonizers reduced California’s native population from 350,000 at first contact to under 17,000 by 1900.
They made a fuss about it being sacred when they decided to make a pipeline through their land dumbass. What an insecure faggot you are.

Do you know what a land deal is.

You know a deal is defined as something both parties agree to right?

I'd say it was a shame Native Americans were illiterate but they didnt even have written language to be unable to read and write.

to be fair, those mummies (because of the time range of mummies they looked at 1400bc to 400ad) were probably mostly related to the Ptolemaic royal family (at least from 350bc to 400ad). Those people were straight up Greek (well Macedonian now but back then that was all the same shit). We know the Cleopatra was white, as were most royals and nobles in the Ptolemaic Era. That doesn't say anything about the genetics of the rest of the population.

How about if we fought and then you signed a paper saying I owned the phone?

>1. Smallpox, and other disease, infections were never intentional. Unfortunately, the Europeans at the time didn't understand how contagious they were. And don't bring up the blankets. There is no documented evidence that was ever actually done. The only document is a guy clearly and obviously making a fucked up joke.
A protracted series of letters actively authorising the use of blankets KNOWN to be infected to "inoculate" them is hardly a fucked up joke. It is an official communique between a baron and a ranking officer, one suggesting in earnest that the spread of disease would benefit them, the other confirming an intention to do so. There is no indication that either man was joking,especially considering that the latter proceeded to do exactly what he had said he would and deliver the blankets as suggested, resulting in the wholesale murder of the natives in Pennsylvania. Additionally inventory reports (more official documents) confirm the use of blankets specifically for infecting the Indians.

Your revisionism is bullshit and you know it.

What makes those Europeans the same as the ones who came later? You don't think the Brits vied with the French and Spanish over American territory?

Nope. But I bet your dumbass reaction to it is

>The protesters in North Dakota certainly didn't make any claims about that land being sacred when it was being dug up to install utility lines, sewage pipes and water lines. Nope, it's only when unemployed environmental activists show up to protest a pipeline
It wasn't even that, it became that as a 'fuck you' to the oil company for turning down what the tribe wanted. The tribe wanted to charge for each unit of oil pumped out instead of a upfront payoff and the company refused, so it became a sacred land/environmental issue to paint the company in a bad light.

And that absolves the US? Does it absolve people who fraud others who fell for their shit? Similar shit happens with old people with shit vision but you don't see them going to prison for fraud.

Source?

pretty much yea.

That isn't incompatible with it being their land.

What if I came round your house with 20 buff niggers and their guns and told you to put a mark on a piece of paper covered in gibberish that meant everything you owned now belongs to me, and if you don't do it the 20 niggers will rape and murder you and your family?

How come fraud is considered a crime in the US? It's hypocrisy.

all my friends are Indians...
all my friends are brown and red
spoonman

also we stole it fair and square so fuck off

Don't need to, there's no valid argument to show that he is racist so there's no need to make an argument that he isn't. That's how burden of proof works.

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Multiple plans discussed, including but not limited to: inoculation by blankets expressly taken from the smallpox hospital and hunting by dogs. The latter was deemed unreasonable due to a shortage of dogs, the former was approved.

I saved that argument for this post:

Soo...he was behind all that...

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Thanks for contributing nothing

>stolen

Most of the United States was purchased.

From people who stole it.

Yeah, those are the letters. It seems clear that they thought these ideas were absurd. But go ahead, provide evidence that smallpox blankets were ever actually used.

you're truly retarded aren't you?
They didn't own the land, it was owned by the development company and had been for years. In fact, they originally wanted the pipeline to go under the river in the same place were the sewage, utility and water lines all went through, but they protested that to get attention so they built it through another, more dangerous area because those retards don't understand basic concepts of civil engineering. Did you even bother reading the Army Corps of Engineers report on the situation before you decided to take that cock out of your suckhole to spew that retarded drivel? Nah, I assume you just like to pretend to have informed opinions because you're too lazy to do any real reading but also too insecure to not be the pseudo-smartest in the room.

As for the other point; I get that the concept of linear time probably goes right over your head; but the vast, vast majority of natives killed in california and everywhere else died of disease, LONG BEFORE THE US WAS EVEN FOUNDED. besides, you can't say it was worse than pre-colonialization warfare because no documentation exists describing population numbers or casualty figures from back them, you tremendous fucking retard.

neither. She's just point out hypocrisy.

is that tekashi 6ix9ine

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Yes we know the indians stole it

belta loda!

>it seems clear they thought these ideas were absurd
No, it is in plain writing that only the idea of the. "Spaniard method" of dog hunting was unreasonable due to a lack of sufficient dogs. The blankets were discussed, agreed upon. You can call it a joke if you want but there is no evidence of jest in those letters, nor would there have been between an officer and a lord. Neither of them said anything to the tune of "these ideas are absurd". Suggestions were made and the smallpox method was agreed upon as the most reasonable. Where you get the notion that these men are bantering I have no idea.

Spain didn't steal anything. There was literally no one on the fucking land except a few tribes whose only technology was straw huts.

Even after mexico developed they couldn't get anyone to come to the north because Mexicans were mostly mixed with indigenous who had no idea how to make anything for basic survival which is why the United States took over most of the land.

The reason why you people are so angry is because you don't know any history yet claim to be experts on it.

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White people wiped out almost her entire race, forced the rest onto ghetto reservations, and you sir, are triggered over a t-shirt. Are you going to be ok little snowflake?

when were these letters written?

Stolen? I don't think so.
> in before go back to Europe and they should go back to Asia. and Spanish go back to Spain.

>ANIMAL

>Spain didn't steal anything
>There was literally no one there except the people who were there that they stole it from

July 1763, these are not the only letters in which Amherst clearly and without hint of joking advocates the genocide of Indians. He calls in several other letters for "... Measures to be taken as would Bring about the Total Extirpation of those Indian Nations".

Oh yeah if you build around 10 indians in their little tents its stealing.

>build around ten whole tribes
ftfy
>and start wholesale slaughtering the things they rely on for a livelihood
added that for you
>and try to drive them away from their holy places because you learn that their holy places are directly on top of mountains full of gold that you want
and that
>it's stealing
Damn right fucktard.

>culture spends literal thousands of years brutally raping and killing each other over territory
>never develop concept of property rights

“stolen land”

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if you want to piss off natives, just remind them of this

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at least 1000 times more people live in california now and we have enough food to feed all of them and an increased popluation of native people. you're fucking bad at math and just need to shut the fuck up.

that's interesting, because the germ theory of disease didn't gain any traction until the mid to late 1800's with the work of Miller and Koch. Before then people mostly relied on the miasma theory of disease, under which they didn't think people would be able to actually pass disease to each other through intermediary objects but rather through common "sin". Even if those who wrote and read this letter believed in germ theory; it's not likely such a plan would get the go-ahead from military leadership considering the amount of influence the Church had, any they hated the idea that germ theory could be true and would have done everything to prevent any actions that would suggest such.

still no trespassing on reservations

I'm surprised the democrats haven't tried to bomb this yet.

Yep they get afforded private property rights, something they couldn’t come up with themselves for literal Millenia

Give it time.

would be even more tragic to the natives user. it would be like kicking everyone out and letting gay hindus shit all over jerusalem.

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There is NO reason for anyone other than a tax-evading blanket-ass, to go to the rez.

>it's not likely such a plan would get the go-ahead from military leadership
And yet it did, in those very letters. They WERE military leadership.

You keep trying to stretch your determination to rewrite history in new directions. Face it, documentation is clear evidence that the use of smallpox blankets was being discussed as a real method of extermination of native Americans by the military leadership, and was used, including at the siege of Fort Pitt.

Didnt Mexicans vote to join the Union? And because their home nation was a socialist shit hole?

You lost, feathernigger. Your people were defeated by mine. It sucks, I know. You can keep whining about it like a retard, or assimilate and live your worthless life.
What would you do if you got that land back? Just the land, mind you. You don't get anything that was built on it by white people.
Would you go back to hunting and gathering in a nomadic lifestyle? Because that's what the majority of your people were capable of doing.

Siberians killed the Vikings that inhabited North and South America first
Then we came back and traded with them
They killed themselves
Especially after we gave them horses
They started wars against eachother killing more than we ever did

it doesnt look like a she

>you lost
I knew it would happen soon enough, the inevitable "you disagree with me so you must be one of them" combo with meaningless insult. A sure mark of some retard who ran out of other arguments.

The real victims of racism are us white people, I was so upset when we were called niggers and hung from trees and couldn't eat with or ride the same buses as blacks. :(

just a cuck then.

Miss these parts?

>What would you do if you got that land back? Just the land, mind you. You don't get anything that was built on it by white people.
>Would you go back to hunting and gathering in a nomadic lifestyle? Because that's what the majority of your people were capable of doing.

Answer those questions. You can still answer if you aren't a feather nigger. What would they do on the land?

Meant for

Your government ran a soft genocide still in the 70's on them. Some faggots decided it was a good idea tho chemically castrate the women under guise of medical checkups. I don't remember the exact numbers but was somewhere 20-50%.

I couldn't believe nobody talks about this shit and that i had to learn it as a medfag in a medicine ethics course.

How is the land stolen? Native Americans didnt believe in ownership of land so that doesnt make any sense

>what would they do
Do you know how many skilled tradesmen there are on the reservations? Here's a clue: tradesmen from outside don't often visit so they had to learn.

They build an industrial society.