Hi Yea Forums- for those of you with depression--I mean REALLY bad...

Remeron works pretty quickly too

I read. I don't smoke. I love my job.

Every few days, I can't drag myself out of bed or even downstairs. It just hits randomly.

Get a ketamine infusion. It's expensive but it works like magic. Depression is gone instantly.

I've heard it can cause a lot of sleepiness, which I deal with already. What time do you take it? Does the fatigue go away?

Psychadelics.
Go on, check NIH dot gov.
The FDA is working to reverse their legal status. You can get ketamine in a nose spray for treatment depression, now, even.

If you really have no options, find a research chem source. Theyre real labs that make synthesised drugs that Dodge legal barriers.
Research the fuck out of it yourself, don't take my word (again, the government even has sources on this..), learn the process to microdose, then get yourself some 1p-lsd or 4-aco-dmt, and start medicating.

if SSRIs aren't working, try MAOIs or SNRIs. haven't taken them myself but if someone else could vouch for me...

If you’ve been eating right and exercising (actually been doing that) while failing at least 3 types/doses of antidepressants, there are options.

Although realistically, most people who claim to have “treatment resistant” depression haven’t actually been doing those things, and/or haven’t been given antidepressants by someone trained to give them.

If you’ve really failed them, then you get ECT/TMS (which are extremely effective) or you go to your nearest academic medical center for ketamine infusions.

It didn’t so I switched. And switched again. Prozac to celexa to effexor to trazadone to remeron to Wellbutrin to Zoloft to anafranil to Luvox to lamotrigine to cymbalta. Shit I need to get out of bed.

I'm not taking psychedelics. I have a history of schizophrenia in my family.

Just get over yourself ffs.

try kratom

Wellbutrin works great for me, but I guess that means it's not treatment resistant.
It sucks man, I hope you find something that works.

Aaaand I'm cured! Thanks, lil' buddy!

Oh also I don't recommend prescription ketamine.
They arent sure yet what the mechanism is. They're confident but ketamine acts on the opioid system and that might be the treating mechanism, and if that's the case it might actually not be all that great. Again they aren't sure and they're confident thats not the case but it's risky. Actually surprising that's the legal one. The others are clean and safe though provided you use them appropriately.

Re: Ketamine

I don't have the money for the infusions. And I never will.

What are my options for obtaining it (obviously in a non-legal way)?

Oh. Welp. I've done the research so you don't have to.
Most definitely do not take this route. Forget I said anything at all.

Search deschloroketamine. It's a legally grey research chemical.

Use this one with extreme caution. Know everything about it before trying.

then:

>I don't know why I'm depressed waaaah

>Anyone recommending taking a long jog, quitting my job, or weed/psychedelics: put a shotgun in your mouth and step on the trigger.

L M F A O

you're amazingly self unaware.

He said it's because he's tried all those things with the exception of the drugs, which, he's right to fear because his family has a history of schizophrenia.

My advice to you remains the same.

I'm treatment resistant, but for symptom mamagement I really recommend modafinil. I use Modalert 200 and it clears the fog out and takes most of the fatigue away, has a 15 hour halflife too. Expensive though, but you can order it in from India and it's way more affordable. You could also ask your doc if he/she would consider ritalin or dex which would be a more affordable and easier option, but I prefer modafinil as it doesnt generally spark up as much anxiety as ritalin or dex unless you take too much and then it's a fucking nightmare because, again, 15 hour halflife. Oh god, never again.

Maybe you're not getting essential nutrition? I'd have some blood work done or something.

Not OP.
Thank you. I've been hovering over the order button but haven't been convinced. Works for depression and anxiety and brain fog?

1 smal (but not too smal) dose of mushrooms just made them vanish
Golden teachers, i think 1,5g/80kg
Do it alone and for that purpose

Nice trips. Op doesn't want it.
I recommend you drop shrooms. Use 4 ACO dmt. Safer, cheaper, "legal".

i use alcohol and opiates. apparently, eventually its supposed to completely rid me of my depression. not yet though.

Can you fucking read? I said no psychedelics. Drop the hippie bullshit.

>Hippy bullshit
Sir I respect your choice based on your family mental health history. But it's not hippy bullshit.
I have a friend with an actual doctorate working for the FDA as we speak trying to crank out the data thresholds required to allow prescriptions.

I have no clue I wish I knew how to feel happy. My life has gone to shit I live in my moms basement my girlfriend left. Every day for me seems worse then the last

(not OP) I have a friend who followed the protocol, being surrounded by friends and everyone, and six years later he still has trouble getting out of bed without feeling like he's about to crawl out of his skin. It's seriously unstable stuff.

Killing your self cures depression pretty well.

Yeah man, you'll feel less depressed the more you tell people to shotgun themselves in the head

Go on, keep trying it. Call your grandma up and let her know, too

You'll feel better in no time, OP. Nothing says "joy" like encouraging suicide to anyone you disagree with.

I love when people call it hippy bullshit, it's an instant indication of their ignorance

That doesn't happen with microdosing. Your friend took a trip amount and wasn't prepared for what was to come or had an underlying medical condition.

I got crazy into music and started to read alot into psychology

Yeah, I feel really sharp and alert when I take it so it's much easier to self motivate. It gives also a subtle feeling of wellbeing too, but not intoxicating. You'll still be aware of the the things you need to do but you'll find it much easier to face those problems when you would normally avoid them.

I find it's pretty hit and miss with anxiety. I suggest starting at 100mg and seeing how it goes before increasing. Once you take enough to kick off your anxiety it's hell, and it just feels like it goes on forever.

LMAO i guess OP's not as much of a free thinker as you.

this whole thread is a figment of your imagination. we are all one with the universe

Weed is great but after too long it made me feel more depressed

>I dont wanna get better I just wanna use my condition as an excuse to be a junkie piece of shit!

wow imagine coming on here and making this thread and being such a huge faggot

Nah, I just do this because I get a kick out of it.

Ritalin 40mg

Where did I say I was a junkie? Because, y'know, the first thing junkies do is refuse the illegal drugs being pushed in this thread by idiots.

MDD sufferer here
sertraline, bupropion, CBT, and realizing there'll be bad stretches

>what are some medications that will cure me
>fuck your hippie bullshit

either you want natural substances that work, or you want pharmaceutical drugs aka being a junkie piece of shit. you think there's much differenc between a heroin user and a benzo addict? its not like there's some magical, non habit forming, non narcotic thing that isnt a psychedelic that will work for you. otherwise depressed people would be on it.

pull your head out of your ass and just admit that you want some faggy drug that will keep you numb rather than actually curing your depression. the more you talk, the more I think you should just fucking neck yourself.

I'm currently on this, the drowsiness sucks which is why it's advised to take in the evening.
What I've discovered though is that taking it with codeine seems to negate the effects.

I've tried wellbutrin, but MAN the first day made me want to strangle someone. Worst rage I've ever felt as someone who's getting DBT to address my rage in the first place. Does the anger go away?

>testosterone levels are fine
lol no, you genetically inferior trash

I want a faggy drug that will keep me numb, as there is no cure for depression. I want something to at least help control it so I can be functional.

Also, go fuck yourself.

ya need to play with the dose. I used to shake so bad I couldn't work. lowered it a tad and it's been ok for a few years now.

Depression is a sign of an unfulfilled life. Chances are there is something that you're not doing that you need to be. Listen to your sober conscious, and I mean really sober, a good 7 days off weed/alcohol/psychadelics. You'll find the way. You're the only one that knows whats best for you.

Depression and anxiety is a 21st century invention by the progressive left and pathetic betas to weaken society instead of becoming stronger themselves.
I'm glad it was conceived though, because there is so much less competition for the competent ones still around.
If you take medication for any mental illness whatsoever, you should just swallow a 9mm because you're clearly not strong enough to make any contribution to society in any way shape or form.
Swallow the pill or swallow the round you faggots

Man, you're a prime contender for my shotgun remedy. Go jack yourself off to some Pizzagate fan fiction and blow your brains out.

You need a change in environment, Yea Forumsro

Exercise, a good diet, all that shit helps, but a change in environment was the catalyst for me.

I was really fucking depressed, it had my head in a really bad place, and then I got locked up in jail for 2 months, and it might have actually been the best thing that happened to me. No contact with the outside world, no computer, no phone for 2 months, just your fellow inmates, books, the newspaper, and a few shitty TV channels for entertainment. Before I went in, I was spending all day on the internet and porn, sitting alone in my room, so it was basically like rehab for me.

Now I'm not suggesting you get yourself locked up, but I seriously think a change in your environment could really help.

Something else that really helped me was yoga. Doing the poses, I realized how much tension and anxiety I have in my body. I'd be clenching muscles without even realizing it. I think it's impossible for your mind to relax and feel at ease if your body's all clenched up. I'm really aware of tension in my body now, and I'll do some breathing meditation when I wake up, before I go to bed, and throughout the day and kind of scan my body for tension.

Also if there's some area nearby where you can go walking in nature, or at least in a park, I highly recommend doing that as a form of meditating. Focus on anything but the inside of your head... the sights around you, smells, sounds... if you notice yourself getting stuck in your thoughts though, that's ok, no worries, just go back to what's around you

Also getting my sleep schedule on track really helped me. Get a bright light, and get one of those power outlet timer things you plug into the wall. Set it for 7am every day. If you can't fall asleep at a decent time, get some (prescription) sleeping pills for the first few weeks and take them at the same time every night. I'm on some called zopiclan right now and they work pretty well.

you're retarded with no concept of history

something tells me you got bent over the bathroom sink by your uncle a few too many times as a kid

adding onto this:

I HIGHLY recommend anything that's not stimulating as a form of entertainment. So books, podcasts, music, MAYBE TV or netflix, but avoid the internet like the fucking plague. It just sucks you in and puts you in this weird head space

Ketamine. Ignore all the "change your life" bullshit everyone's peddling, sometimes it's really as simple as it being chemical.

Something tells me you are all pathetically weak and will never make any contribution to society. Probably socialists, too. Eat a fucking round you degenerates

it means you don't have depression. you were misdiagnosed and you more likely have something like narcissistic personality disorder

>feeling already shit cos brain is out of serotonin
>use drugs to have a moment of high serotonin levels
>fuck up your already nonexistant production of brain chemicals
>???
>PROFIT
you've gotta be shitting me user

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you've never fucked a woman in your life and would love to be railed by black dick right now. look within yourself, you know it's true.

SIR YES SIR CULL THE WEAK CULL THE WEAK CULL THE WEAK

eat raw meat

Hi guys. Im constantly worrying that someone will so something bad for me. Always trying to remember what people said to me, finding something to approve my paranoid thoughts. I feel like people around me are psychopaths, always set to say something mean to me and waiting for a chance to kill me. Thoughts like these always multiply in strength and quantity when my mother starts drinking. I feel very vulnerable and afraid to do anything because bad people will see me trying and attempt to break me. What should I do?

Lmao gotta love the ad hominem. That's how I know I'm right and you're all pathetically weak.

Try to work on improving the quality of your life. If you have no career prospects, low social/sexual interactions, and are generally unhealthy physically, it is logical to be in a poor mood. Drugs can help, but they can also destroy, I've found they're just a way to pretend things are better, or could be different. You have to tell yourself what to do, what to enjoy, what to ignore. If you have real depression, not the blues, it never goes away. Medications don't do anything either, you'll become tolerant, then need more, then become dependant. Plus going traditional routes puts you on 'lists' of the illequipped.

Make a life worth living, something you look forward to engaging in. Build something you want to come back to. It's like Minecraft, there is no point, except what you make. Find a friend, make connections, trust, make yourself vulnerable, think about having a family.

Tldr: if your life sucks, you'll be sad. If your life is sweet, you'll be happy. Make, build, force, a happy life on yourself. Being depressed is being aware of a negative situation.

no.

you gotta do whatever its bothering you that you dont do

>"treatment resistant" in the fucking OP
>everyone recommending SSRIs and narcotics

you're all fucking idiots. depression is more than just trying to readjust to a shitty society. it's a medical diagnosis, it runs in families, it prevents people from making the changes that they want to. you're all proving OP's point

>low serotonin
>mdma cant release serotonin that isn't there
>don't get as high as your friends

that's the real issue.

I think OP's body and hormones are fine. The issue might lie with spritual and mental health rather than controlling the chemicals.
In most cases, finding a hobby and focusing on being creative is a good way to find your "path". Most people run the rat race of life like what OP is doing. Working, living comfortably, being physically healthy, but neglect the mindset of thinking on their own, making something or being someone more than just a grunt in a cubicle. He has the power, the means, but the ambition is lacking.

Had depression for quite a while - about 10 years. Sounds absurd but I eventually "thought" myself out of it.

Among other things, I realized nobody else on this planet has more of a right to be alive than I did. We're all here by chance. I figured I may as well stick around and see what happens. Still feel sad and lost sometimes but I'm not really suicidal anymore.

CBD by far is the most amazing drug, supplement, or whatever you wanna call it.

I've been on/off the following drugs in the last 12 years for rapid cycling bipolar, generalized anxiety disorder, plus other stuff:
Lamictal
Buspar
Cymbalta
Risperidone
Amitriptyline
Paxil
Effexor
and some other ones I can't remember. None have had anywhere NEAR the impact that CBD has on almost every single problem I have... anxiety, depression, joint/nerve pain, mood problems, nausea, and so much other stuff.

You can dismiss my post because "LOL DRUGZ R BAD MMMK", or you could maybe accept that your genetics, environment, and/or whatever else is out of your control and sometimes outside chemicals are needed to support your health in our shitty reality.

If you "thought" your way out of your depression, then you weren't depressed in the first place.

Clinically diagnosed. I felt depressed. You cannot refute that I was depressed, moron. Have a reality check.

There's a study going on at Johns Hopkins U about treating depression with psilocybin (mushrooms). They're always looking for participants, FWIW.

You're all complete faggot retards. Depression isn't a thing. Being depressed is. That is when something stressful, sad, or bad happens to you. Having depression basically means "being a little bitch". I don't know where these people get off with this sense of entitlement "oh I can't get out of bed today". Its quite frankly insulting to people on the other side of the world that have NOTHING. But yeah go get prescribed some pills to temporarily make you happy and not address the root cause of your issues: the fact that you're being a little queer dumbass who needs a swift kick in the ass.

TLDR: Depression is more pussy bullshit made up on liberal colleges from liberal pussies. Same people who said being gay was a mental disease until they changed their mind.

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How do you expect people to overcome their depression? Depression is a process of thought and perception. You're a fucking dumbass.

Depends. Depression/anxiety is caused either by a neurotransmitter imbalance or your environment making you depressed. Work a shit job, have no one that loves you and you'll find you get sad.

I have real depression. If I didn't take my medication, I would kill myself. Not a doubt in my mind. It sucks being dependant on a drug to live, but that's my life I suppose. I lift 6 days a week for health and endorphins, but that's not nearly enough. I take escitalopram 20 mg daily. It helps, but it's just enough to make it so I can live with depression. It's no cure or anything

A clinician's job is to make you feel better asap, and Big Pharma's job is to sell and push drugs onto such clinicians. You're an idiot, who fell into the trap of fucking your natural brain chemistry. Also have fun being dependent on chemicals that you have to pay for for the rest of your life. GG bro

What’s your diet consist of? Eliminate all dairy, all gluten, all legumes and nightshade plants, and anything with a high glycemic index. Nothing with high saturated or trans fats. Basically eat tons of veggies low in lectins and lean proteins like skinless chicken breast, turkey, lean beef occasionally and lots of Alaskan salmon, mackerel and such.

"Depression is some made up bullshit I have no empirical proof of. I make excuses for being a piece of shit because I'm lazy. I could do better if i applied myself but its easier to say i have depression and since I had shitty parents, I usually take the easy way out because I have no perseverance"

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>I have real depression...
I laughed out loud. You're such a weak faggot

stop taking your medication. The world would be better without you making up excuses for being a dumb lazy piece of shit. Depression isn't real. You're a pussy and your parents were shitty.

?
Are you blind? I didn't state that I took medication, nor did I take medication. Diagnosis doesn't imply prescription. I refused medication - just like you refuse reality and logic.

Moreover, medication does not "fuck your natural brain chemistry." Good luck finding medical sources apropos of that absurd statement. Taking about "big pharma" very clearly indicates your state of delusion. Enjoy living the rest of your life with the veil of imbecility over your eyes. No cure for stupid.

I'm prescribed escitalopram 40mg but it doesn't work for me, just makes it hard to cum and I don't react to things. SSRI's help people that are naturally fucked up, I've always been depressed but only recently got suicidal because something happened that fucked me up more. So my depression is from external factors

Mirtazapine
Weed
Drinking alone on weekend watching tv or playing video games or watching anime

If you think that just because doctor says you have something means you absolutely do is very naive. I have a fuckton of health problems and have been misdiagnosed many times, as well as have many issues which are undiagnosed because of how incompetent most doctors are.

Also, I certainly can voice my opinion and refute your claims of depression as you cannot "think" your way out of depression as that undermines the entire definition of depression.

Medicine, coping skills/therapy, lifestyle changes, etc. You can't simply say.. "Ok, I won't be depressed anymore because it's just hurting me." and if you believe that you can, I would hope that you never procreate.

wow yeah if you only eat asparagus and carrots surely that will make you happy and you won't be depressed anymore.

>strawmanning this hard

And I thought I was mentally ill. Fuckoff.

Not that guy but......I"d rather have some dumbass on Yea Forums call me stupid than be hooked up depression mediction lol like wtf are you serious with this reply

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Do things that makes you happy.

For me it was riding sportbike and working on race car project.

>lab made chemical where you have to trust the laboratory vs natural growing fungus
>shrooms are literally the cheapest drug out there
Fuck off wastebin

Well said. Fantastic way to illustrate your complete ignorance on this subject. Any other nuggets of wisdom you may have that will make you look all the more foolish?

mental illness is extremely overblown. Did you know 1/5 women in america are on depression or anxiety meds? I mean damn, what did people every do in the 60s. Its like they got told to quit being a little bitch and grow the fuck up and move on or something

I just got some lions mane supplement that I'm trying out to aid me in getting out of a slump. Only one pill in and already getting more energized and doing more today than yesterday. Could be placebo, only time will tell.

Both of you are wrong. Drugs DO fuck with your natural brain chemistry, that's the POINT. We have no long term studies with these drugs and we don't know for sure if our brains ever truly go back to baseline after stopping use. even if these drugs are the devil a lot of people need them to function. "Big Pharma" is pretty fucking evil but what industry isn't.

I struck a chord huh?

The way I look at it is: if anyone reads what I say and takes it to heart. They either get off their pills and kill themselves, or they man the fuck up and grow up. Either way I'm making society a better place

Venlefaxine is an amazing drug.

I've convinced a few people I know to switch to it from whatever they were on and they've all thanked me and gone on about how amazing it is and how well it's worked for them.

Get summa dat

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Ketamine treatment man, worked for me. Struggled with depression since early 20s. Schizotypal disorder, phsycotic breaks, mental hospital, cortical hyperactivity. Lots of treatments, everyone helped in a way but ketamine drug trial worked the best.

That doesn't mean depression isn't real. All that means is pharmaceutical companies like selling things to people. Mental illness is hardly "overblown" most people still have stigmas about it and don't talk about it.

There are alot of things depressed people can do to help themselves but try telling them that. Try telling the schizoprenic that he isn't being followed by space niggers.

Ecstasy triggered my schizophrenia dmt cured it, I couldn't smoke weed without hearing voices for a week afterward and now I smoke every day without worry

Vraylar works pretty good.

Ask for a nugget, get a wheelbarrow full of bullshit. Knew you couldn't resist. You can take your ball and go back into your bubble now.

oh so now being depressed is = a schizophrenic thinking space niggers are following him?

You should try not just repeating what your psych professors tell you in 1000 level college courses.

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Thank you

I've heard of it. I've also heard the akathisia (which made me want to kill myself, even 20 minutes of it) can be unbearable.

>wants to be cured
>wont take the cure
You deserve to be sick, retard

you should take a fat dick in your ass since you're already depressed you're basically a schizo/retard according to this guy so you might as well be a faggot too

you sure know a lot of stuff.

Haha yeah! Lol! XDD suicide is really cool and edgy

this is why you experience depression. Not only are you thick in the head, you're hateful, too.

You cannot hope to expose yourself to new ideas and heal if you tell all of those new ideas to eat a gun barrel

fuck I can't stand watching you people destroy yourself, yet, it often feels like that's exactly what you desire. If you wanted to heal, you'd take advice. Any of it.

You'd try literally anything.

this.

>go fuck yourself
>waaaaah why am i always said waaaah

MUH COMPETITION
where do you guys find your worth in these things holy fuck

what competition? Are you a track star?

okay i give up

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Ahh that was so hot the way you spoke to that guy? Bend me over and pump me full of your alpha seed you real man

drink strong coffee

it has been proven to reduce depression and anxiety

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You just proved my point. You don't treat mental illness equally because you don't believe depression even is an illness.

I'm not sure about depression, but caffeine increases anxiety.

Looks like we got a butterfly here, I'm sure you know more then all the psychologist combined. So glad you are here to enlighten us with your knowledge. What would we do without you? You just solved all the suicides in the world.

Ps. I hope your mother is depressed and kills your father and your siblings before overdosing herself.

avoid negative thoughts

distract yourself with video games

In those medical trials they talk about 500ug which is way beyond what I would recommend on based on my personal experience

That's like saying "oh ok so spraining your ankle is like having bone cancer?"
Naming things on far ends of the spectrum doesn't prove one isn't real.. it shows you're aware of a spectrum.

>What did people do in the 60s
Drugs. Weve been doing lots of drugs for thousands of years. Fuck sakes cocaine was a popular drink. And don't act like everyone was all cool and happy in the 60s either, the constant looming threat of nuclear annhilation was brand new.

The to be or not to be speech was written 500 years ago for fuck sakes. If you didn't know it means "I wanna kill myself but I cant because death is kind of scary too".
It's timeless and famous for a reason.

Not to mention evolution itself doesn't favour happiness. It favours what keeps you alive. Guess what anxiety is? It's your system keeping you on your toes for potential danger so you can react. You'd better believe our apey ancestors lived in constant anxiety.

Depression and mental illness in general isn't new, our understanding of the brain just got better, as did our ways to make life suck less for everyone.

you're thinking of energy drinks

Coffee is packed with caffeine which increases anxiety.

learn to set small goals for yourself

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Depressed people find it hard to enjoy things. How am I going to distract myself with someone I'm unable to enjoy

again, you're thinking of energy drinks. it's the high concentration of sugar that negatively enhances the anxiety levels

Certified retard. Caffeine is the drug found in both coffee and energy drinks that increases anxiety. Protip; don't use stimulants if you're anxious.

Distract yourself with a gun in your mouth

Life is just really depressing for the most part.

Well.. considering I have severe anxiety and drinking anything with caffeine, sugar or not, increases my anxiety I'd have to say that it's the caffeine. Not to mention caffeine is scientifically proven to increase anxiety levels, especially in those who are prone to increased anxiety.

bad advice

avoid video games and the internet and any interactive, stimulating shit if you're depressed. it's part of the problem.

OP is just a hipocitical junkie piece of shit

not sure if trolling or legitimately stupid

Try 5htp if you're not on anything

hurr durr... if it happens to me, it happens to everyone!

how very scientific of you

this

He's sensitive to caffeine is what he's trying to say

>refuses cure
>takes prescription pills
>doesn't get the obvious irony

Thats a lot of words for a retard

caffeine has been proven to increase dopamine levels, which is the key to reducing depression

cymbalta is literally a magic pill, started on it about 2 months ago after moving away from home. Was super depressed and suicidal pretty much every day, and my mom forced me to go see a psychologist and got the prescription, shit actually saved me

Can someone better describe depression? im not sure if i have it.

I mean... you have to be trolling... right? I hope you are.

> nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/anxiety-disorders/index.shtml
> ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20164571

Feel free to spend 10 seconds on Google for more references.

>muh liberal bogeyman
>just be happy whats wrong with u moron haha
>depression is when ur sad

I fucking hate Americans.

because it isn't....depression is what happens when shitty things happen to you in life. Just like joy is what happens when good things happen to you.

oh look. the anxiety nutjob is going full retard in a depression thread

OP, I've been on 8 different medications for depression. Typical SSRIs, medications for bipolar disorder, and mood stabilizers. Nothing helped except for Latuda, and my damn insurance company won't cover it ($2400/mo).

I am no no meds now. I use ashwagandha, l-theanine, and several multivitamins. They work amazingly well together. That was mainly for anxiety.

The depression side I'm battling myself. Exercise helps some. I will tell you from experience that SSRIs are a bandaid. Don't trust those damn things.

"Suicide is the second leading cause of death for young people aged 15 to 24."

HURRR DURRRRR they just need to stop being pussies... sniff my farts.

> Someone in the thread mentions anxiety and says caffeine can help, but is wrong.
> People start fighting me and saying I'm wrong.
> I link proof that I'm right.
> "lul ur crazy"

What is wrong with you?

What makes psychologists correct? Look into it. They are essentially reporting on the divergence from the norm. They say okay so 80% of people are this way so lets take the 10% on each side and say they have 'x' mental disorder. That doesn't make them right, it just makes them classify people into groups. Which then in turn they sell to you and tell you you have 'x' so they prescribe you shit, so they
A) look like they're doing something diagnosing you and b) make money . Its a perpetuating cycle.

Now is your average shrink part of this grand conspiracy, no just some dumb kid who went and got the wrong degree in college. But this is how the business took off the late 1990s.

God damn you college kids are so dumb. You don't realize money is the only thing that matters.

Caffeine is a CNS stimulant, people with anxiety disorders have an overactive CNS.

.....

Caffeine is a CNS stimulant.

Do you see why you're wrong? You fucking retard?

What happens when someone with a good life commits suicide?

Registered Mental Health Nurse here. Go to your Dr. Us Bongs get it free but if you gotta pay, pay! Meds and talking therapy work. I know. I've been on both sides. I take Venlafaxine 225mg and it makes things less bad.

samefag doesn't know when to stop

calm down and drink some coffee

So your argument is, this has always been around, we just know more about it. Well if that is the case you should run to the local nursing home and tell all those fogies they need to get on depression and anxiety meds.

Additionally, what makes life 'suck less'. The psychologist isn't the one who thinks it sucks in the first place. YOU ARE. He is just prescribing you medicine to make you think its better, instead of getting you to change the actions of why you're a sad fag to begin with...

The whole industry and practice is bullshit as far as I'm concerned. They are just trying to make $. You could technically group everyone you've ever met into some sort of mental disorder category i'm sure since there is a new one out every week. Doesn't make them right, just makes you a sheep.

Do you even know what samefagging is? Having a conversation and replying to replies to your own post isn't samefagging.

I would call you a newfag, but I think in this situation.. it's implied.

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Weed effects your dopamine you fucking idiot. Of course you should quit or at least take an extensive time off if you wanna be genuinely happy. Jesus, you retarded teenagers.
>b-buh i can stop at any time i want!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you think money is everything?

You can't buy long term happiness. Depression is something very serious and a lot of people don't know that they ate suffering. You are fishing for attention and you know it.

Fuck off chink

Sounds like you're just a huge faggot

It does, some people arent as prone to anxiety

Not telling people to just be happy telling them to address the root cause of why they are depressed, and additionally not get hooked on some drug some asshole you've met a handful of times prescribed to you

Then he is an unthankfukk bastdart

The ... ruined it but nice on bro

the world loses one more mentally weak retard making society better and furthering our strength as a race.

your "proof" is very convincing

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Wait,
>You can't buy long term happiness.
99% of people I know who don't have to worry about their bills are happy.

>Depression is something very serious and a lot of people don't know that they ate suffering
So I could be depressed and I don't know it? How can I know? Should I go meet with some asshole 5-10x and sit in a red leather chair and tell him how hard my job that i'm lucky to have is?

I hope all the depressed people in this thread win the lottery so their depression goes away

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The moment you think money solves all problems you are depressed to a certain extend. Money only helps you buy and maintain objects.

How do you know that the people you know aren't depressed? Just because you have enough money to pay your bills doesn't mean you are dying inside (to a certain extend)

Depression means having no energy to do anything, it means choosing solidarity over anything social.

g8 b8 m8

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>register on turbo tax
>call CPA on Wednesday

well, are you doing your taxes or is the jew ya fuckin idiot

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>"dying on the inside"
Money solves most problems Yea Forumsro. It doesn't buy happiness but it buys no stress. No stress = fun. Fun = happiness. Pretty simple.

>Depression means having no energy to do anything, it means choosing solidarity over anything social

So if I run a marathon and want to do nothing the next day do i have depression?

Just think about what you want and then you'll feel good.
And if you think about something you don't want, and feel bad, then there's your clue, that clarifies what you do want.

Reality is irrelevant, because it is temporary anyway. If you're gonna think about "reality" ofcourse you're gonna get depressed, because reality is fake. It is as temporary as the refresh rate of reality, which is 1 ten billionth of a second.

Weed does not directly effect the dopamine system. THC binds to cannibanoid receptors in the brain and body, the stimulation of your entire cannibanoid system in turn stimulates dopamine, and even then, not very fuckin much.

Weed isn't addictive. Crack is. Why? Dopamine.

>ketamine
>psychedelics
>grow up
>an hero
choose one, either will work

Then why can't I quit?

weed is definitely addictive dude

underrated post

Because you don't want to and you like weed.

No more addictive than any other enjoyable activity.

I was rated by the government as 100% disabled from depression. 2400$ NEET bucks a month.

I bought ayahuasca (psychedelic drug off the internet) at 60% cured after 3 uses. Now the government reevaluated me and was like were droping your NEET bucks to 1200$ go get a job faggot.

Before ayahuasca I was on Prozac, aripozole, welbutron, anti depressants. and 4 other drug's i cant remember the name of

150$ online changed my life....but it also cost me free money's :(

Enjoy commiting a federal crime everytime you run out.

This is like saying shell shock doesnt exist its actually PTSD.

Say what you will people do kill themselves because of their depression.

Grait bait mate, but stop being a smart-ass, you ran a marathon, its a energetic and social experience. And no stress isnt always fun, it just means less worries about money, what about a love life, family, kids, house, debt anything else that can cause problems?

???? ayahuasca is not a crime getting the ingredients to make it are 100% legal. IF YOU EXTRACT IT into pure chemical form that is a crime. if you try to sell it that is a crime.

Wow this guy just solved depression

You sad little man.

>anyone you disagree with.
hes already tried those things and they dont work

Its not disagreement its ineffectual

What kind of retard suggests a stimulant for anxiety? The only medications we currently have for the treatment of anxiety are central nervous system depressants like xanax. Why do they work? Because they're depressants, caffeine is a stimulant.

Try this for a month ^ Ask your doc if it interacts with any other pills you're taking, even if you aren't taking any at the moment. Do NOT exceed the dosage, serotonin syndrome is shit.

It helps a little, maybe 15-20%, but it's better than nothing. Please JUST TRY IT, especially if you're experiencing defensive aggression and anxiety.

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Ignorant and/or stupid people.

Honestly this is the kinda shit depressed people tell themselves.

>Depression isn't real. You're a pussy and your parents were shitty.

So me being a pussy because my parents suck is a thing but me being emotionally unstable isnt?

Sounds logical.

It really helps to have that idea reinforced by uneducated shitheads on Yea Forums too

Or they disagree with you on premise and dont internalize your garbage post?

Then why do I want to quit every time I smoke it?

Because you feel guilty for needing to smoke it.

Idiot there is no run out there is only an want to do it again

you have no reading comprehension and are likely the person in the thread with the most mental health problems.

Dont do this. Its so easy to escape into video games and its the last thing anyone with depression needs.

No it ruins my life by taking away my money and energy but that little fucker programmed me to crave it so i won't sit still until I get some

Caffeine is a stimulant its well known that any stimulant can cause anxiety.

Weed obviously.

as long as you drink it in moderation

You can form a dependency for weed lol

Get in a clinical trial for MDMA. I know fucktards use it for music festivals, but if it works on soldiers with PTSD, it might work for you.

Then just drink black tea

MDMA might be great for severe ptsd but it ducked up your brain in a way that makes you unable to enjoy life properly and that single dose won't make you permanently happy, just makes you think it will until it wears off and you get to baseline (not even mentioning the comedowns)

modafinil is best drug

fight me

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get out of urban areas more often.

o yea, and kill yerself.

dumbshit wants to stop being depressed but has a closed mind ...

good luck dipshit, sounds like u dont actually want to feel better, u just want some attention...fag ladyboys are all we have these days no more real men

Ptsd and depression are drastically different. Mdma would NOT be a good approach to depression because of its effects on the serotonin system

youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8

The THC itself is not addicting, you programmed yourself to crave it by doing it so much, that's how the brain works. Stop smoking and preoccupy yourself to lessen the cravings and in 2 weeks you won't even think about it.

I cut red meat out of my diet mostly (still eat a burger once a week though) and my depression significantly lowered

I also cut down on sugar, started lifting weights more, started eating more tomatoes, almonds, general fruit etc (with some seaweed three times a week to top up iodine levels) and I feel better than i've felt in decades

I haven't figured anything out in more than 30 years of trying. I think the nitrogen cylinder is the only way my depression will be 'cured'.

oh and get more fish oil too

not really a medication that is perscribed, ut what works for me, every few weeks I take a glass of grapefruit juice with 4 doses of delsym (dextromethorphan) (read up on erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_general_info.shtml#toc.4.16)
on a weekend i have free. high is amazing and the antidepressant qualities last for up to 5 days before needing to do it again

ketamine injections. and yeah, they use mdma to treat ptsd in veterans, you retards ever read scientific articles or what?

How so?

bro you sound like you are depressed, did your uncle put his dick on your shoulder when you were a kid or whats with the hate and resentment?

you have no idea how brain chemistry or mdma works, pls stop talking here

/thread

lol redneck, go to school and learn what chemicals in your brain can do and then come back and talk here. or better yet, don't come back and just keep fucking your cow and shooting your gun

Thiissss.
Nice trips too

Okay, seems like you slobbering degenerates are all too busy having your adorable little homoerotic circlejerk to pay attention to this. So I'll say it again incase OP disregarded my post because of you gluehuffing coons.

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>implying I didn't do that already
Life isn't that simple kid, you will have to learn this the hard way

Ayahuasca is the best cure for depression on the planet. Period, discussion over. If you can't be happy after taking ayahuasca numerous times, it is over.

Thankfully, ayahuasca is legal and dirt-cheap: maya-ethnobotanicals.com/herbs/by-category/ayahuasca

And here is how to use it in recreational doses: dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52019

You just buy the stuff (Syrian Rue and Chaliponga), grind it into a powder with a mixer or blender, have a 0,1g sensitive scale to measure the doses with, and swallow 2,0g Syrian Rue with water or orange juice, wait 5-10 minutes, and then swallow ~3,0g Chaliponga with Orange Juice.

You can thank me later when you are no longer depressed.

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For fuck sake FOR CURED MY SCHIOPHRENIA

*DMT
(Fucking autocorrect gotta turn this off)

>gets addicted to the mildest drug out there
>tells me I have learning to do

Excercise is the only thing that works for me... 5 times a week for 1.5hrs at least

>Your argument is it's always been around

..yes

>You should tell the old ladies they should be on anti anxiety meds

They put them on all kinds of meds and yes, mood regulators are among them.

>What the psychologist says and all that

I studied psychology, I know what they're saying and honestly, my friend, it actually isn't complicated or hard to understand at all. At least to know enough to know it's not made up... You have to have your fingers in your ears pretty deep.and scream pretty loud to not get it..
It's as though someone was tired every single day and complaining about pissing 5 times an hour and I said "hey get checked for.diabetes just in csse" and you were like "LOL NOPE there is no diabetes sleep more and drink less water faggot".
Your brain is an organ an unbelievably complex one at that. Your entire experience, from mood, to perception, to your very thoughts relies on it running smoothly.

Chemicals that may mess with your mood being out of whack are every bit as unamazing as the fact alcohol can make you drunk.

>For.money

As the other user said.. people profiting doesn't make something not real... At the very most it just means some people are jerks..

Cigarettes are a lot milder than weed but they are a lot more addictive

I bet you're underaged

Soo...he was behind all that...

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Nicotine and THC are completely different drugs. Just because you don't get fucked up from a cigarette doesn't mean it's easy on the brain.

try fluoxetine, I was at a point of suicide, but the drug helped me bad to a normal-ish life. you might have to get a prescription though (that's the hard part)

stop being depressed. you have no reasons to
youtube.com/watch?v=k5RH3BdXDOY

ITT: crazy people trying to use logic

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Oh and
>He's just trying to get you on meds to make you think it's better
Firstly this depends immensley on the disorder. Secondly for depression which I think you're talking about her, no... The goal is to restructure your life and thought patterns into a more long term sustainable life style, drug free is the goal.

And the entire point of anti depressents in most cases is to remove the symptoms of lack of motivation and hopelessness to help you make said changes.

Basically any claim you've made at all about how they do it is not reflective at all of how they do it. If you've had this experience with a therapist, you had a shitty therapist.