Is this true?

Is this true?

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That's the american dream. Con-men preying on the feeble.

no. socialism never took root because its stupid.

Deep thoughts from a shallow mind®

that must be why anime took root in america

Go eat a zoo animal you fucking commie

Socialism
>be poor
>Stay poor

Capitalism
>Be poor
>Be able to gradually improve social standing via hard work incentivized by a free market where competence is awarded instead of simple existence

I mean, socialism is pretty cringe but yes definitely true most Americans fundamentally relate to a billionaire spitting into a truck drivers face than the truck driver, even if they themselves are literally a truck driver

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>>Be able to gradually improve social standing via hard work incentivized by a free market where competence is awarded instead of simple existence

This is the lie of capitalism: Everybody can make it. Which is the biggest bullshit.

There are people working 3 jobs and still they will never make it out of a trailer.

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Americans still believe in trickle down economics eventhough it never worked either.

The rich did not get rich by sharing their wealth.

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Nice anecdotal evidence you got there.
Just because (YOU) are a fuckup going nowhere doesn’t mean everyone else is too.

Instead of working at mcdonalds they could find a full time job and move up. I work with a blood, and a convicted murderer. Im white and yes I make absolute dogshit but I can still afford to live in an area where a 2 bed appt is 1400 a month. And I have a child.

I also have actively gone after training on all the equipment in the shop and am poised to go into management training. Moving up eventually.

I dont have a college degree, but Im motivated.

Those people are doing something wrong, that you dont see.

>because (YOU) are a fuckup

See, that's it, people who cannot make it are just "fuck ups". One of the other lies of capitalism. People don't make it because they have not chance of making it, it's because "they don't really want to".

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>I'm successful therefore everyone else can be
>I didn't have a problem so everybody else must be the problem
This is called the just world fallacy and it's caused by a lack of perspective in people who've never had to fight for what they have.

yes

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If you are working 3 jobs and living in a trailer you made some other very poor choices in life.

Socialism did take root in America. Socialism vs. Capitalism is not a black and white issue. We're a mixed economy.

What do you think Medicare/Medicaid is? How about Social Security? How about our Military? Or our system of roads?

Except it did. Because it's not.

>Those people are doing something wrong, that you dont see.
maybe. sometimes it's just bad luck though. accidents, chronic illnesses, having to take care of family members etc, just shit you can't control
in fact, none of us can control our IQ either, so some people are really just unlucky, not lazy or evil

I thought it was crying about her losing

stop it with the sense-making. people need their scapegoats and flags to rally around

the guy who took that photo is a total tool

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Exploitation in capitalism is a meme. He's right, but probably not in the way he intended.

this retarded

stay mad kid

sure kid soory you missed the Reagan years

stay mad kid

This is partially true.
The comments here pretty much replicate situation in all the world.
People don't understand what communism is, they aren't even trying.
Mass media have dumped a lot of bullshit strait to peoples heads, which is a good strategy thou - if there is an interesting subject people will try to get known with it, and they will either learn it from primal sources (Capital by Marx) or they will learn it from mass media.
People are stupid and lazy, they tend to outsource their personal intellectual activities to some leader of public opinion.

Communism is a way of science, it's all about scientific approach to philosophy, history, economics, politics and social science.
What else can we expect from people who still think that politics is a matter of beliefs; people who still think that objectivity is unreachable and everything is subjective; people who still think that philosophy is just a set of someones living principles.

Capital is one of the most widely known books - everyone is talking about it. And still people would prefer to spend years composing stupid reasons to avoid reading it, instead of spending a few months reading Capital in a comfortable tempo.

this retarded

>trailer
so mad she lost

a meme you say? Go read some Upton Sinclair you cuck.

>What do you think Medicare/Medicaid is? How about Social Security? How about our Military? Or our system of roads?
its not socialism

How many fucking dumbshit kids did they have before becoming financially stable?

Your success or failure is rooted in the decisions you make, not your social standing.

Go be a fucktarded niggerfaggot somewhere else, commie.

this retarded

facts are facts user, deal with it

sure kid

That John Steinbeck said this? No its not true

so how would Medicare for all be socialism?

>facts are facts user
sure kid
this retarded

stay retarded kid

Trickle down didn't work because the rich never share.

When reagan introduced T.D.E. that's when America's wealthy became really interested in offshore banking.

>read a book
This is you.

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sure kid
sorry you missed it

>confirmed assblasted
stay mad cuck

>This is the lie of capitalism: Everybody can make it. Which is the biggest bullshit.
>There are people working 3 jobs and still they will never make it out of a trailer.

Found the dipshit.

backed yourself into a corner on that one fucktard

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try becoming a millionaire as a 95 iq pleb. and thats 40% of the population.

This.

Guarantee any cunt in here saying simply that they MUST be at fault is woefully inexperienced when it comes to the pitfalls of life.

>What do you think Medicare/Medicaid is? How about Social Security? How about our Military? Or our system of roads?

This dude obviously doesn't know what socialism is. The ignorance.

not the reply of an intelligent person
lmao

now here is a faggot who thinks he knows something

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if everyone could be what they wanted, no one would flip hamburgers. if everyone got rich, no one would be.

Socialism didnt take root in america (it did, from 1890-1930) because we literally actively fought it from being considered a political position. FBI spent most of the 40s-60s ruining the lives of those who supported unions, socialism, and civil rights

weak and weak
you never win kid

sure kid

>The ignorance.
you should know what its like kid

It's only socialism if it's things you don't like, got it.

said the "this retarded" guy. LMFAO

what is pasta

you self-owned there sonny, I had nothing to do that

sure kid

>has no time off
>doesn’t blame the people benefitting from his labour

Can Ameritards really not connect the dots on this?

weak and predictable

>you self-owned there sonny
god how pathetic

>Ameritards
weak outlander detected

stay mad kid

capitalism didn't create the internet.

I know your self own was pathetic, really made an ass of yourself. At least you can admit it.

now here is a retarded bum-boy who pretends to smarter than someone who is actually smart.
but you are still to retarded to actually demonstrate it.
pathetic.

we don't have centuries of feudal history to give us the correct perspective. People here in 'Murica think we'll all be rich one day.

so weak coming from you

sure kid

>self own
you must be from that other site

>try becoming a millionaire as a 95 iq pleb. and thats 40% of the population.

Have you never seen Forest Gump.

There is a place in our society for everyone. Even those with low IQs like you. They don't have to live off the welfare state and they don't have to be overburdened.

Some will do better than others of course. You can't hold back the ambitious and the talented, just because others are lazy and or dumb.

>someone who is actually smart.
not you kid that's for sure

>this triggered
do you need a safe space? Yea Forums is clearly too much for your fragile sensibilities

>durrr-durrr-durrr me is strong, you're weak
>muricaa fuck yeah.
imagine being such a slave bitch
forever tool

weak and predictable
still waiting for that basic income kid?

fuck you. look up Emmanuel syndrome or thalidomide babies. Tell me those people should just get to work and earn their keep you callous moron.

>this triggered
so weak so predictable
are you from that other site?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours

what other site? Your safe space?

ok, want to explain to me how the free market created the interwebs?

>slave bitch
use stronger words

Absolutely. Steinbeck's writings are genius, especially on red state FILTH who take take take from blue states, but don't realize it's socialism whilst whining about socialism.

It's hilarious.

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whatever, bitch

>safe space?
so weak so predictable

>you should know what its like kid

Actually I don't.

>It's only socialism if it's things you don't like, got it.

Nope. There is an actual definition.

sure kid

ok, go ahead then. explain it to me chad

being dumb is not a choice though. forest gump is a work of fiction. capitalism is not fair. deal with it.

sure kid

>FILTH
so mad Nana Clinton lost

>thinks Forrest Gump reflects reality
holy shit are you actually 12 years old?

not the reply of an intelligent person

weak and predictable

stay mad wagecuck. how much is on your W2?

sure kid we know how this works

Lots of white faggots in denial here lol, what a brilliant quote.

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>wagecuck.
not the reply of an intelligent person

Oh white people...why the fuck do you do dirty shit like this?

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I asked you a question...

you keep repeating the same stuff, because you lack the intelligence or ability to respond to people with substance?

It was true before liberalism took over the country

lol you don't understand the quote then

m8, I bet he has no job at all

when exactly was that?

but I want him to admit it. I'm sure he has a great excuse too.

And why do you think everyone deserves to be a millionaire? You make money by providing something useful to others, millionaires aren't all just lottery winners and inheritance babies. Do something useful and people will pay you for it.

Spotted the faggot butthurt commie.

>forest gump is a work of fiction
Ever heard of a joke. Oh yeah I forgot about your low IQ. Sorry for that.

>capitalism is not fair. deal with it.

That's exactly right. Seems you are the one the with the problem. Get over it.

>holy shit are you actually 12 years old?
Holy shit is your IQ 75?

>damage control

don't answer a question with a question user.

>weak and predictable
Only if you don't know what the definition of "socialism".

Not an argument.

So fukken lazy and stupid

>don't answer a question with a question user.
Yes, you are right. It confuses dumbasses.

>what a brilliant quote.
this retarded

>I asked you a question...
so?

no, it's rude. Your parents clearly are of low class.

stay mad kid
you already lost

sure kid

too afraid to answer it kek

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>>damage control
Interesting. What damage might have you delivered? Are you a narcissist?

>him to admit it.
stay mad you do it so well

this retarded

>"socialism".
then the romans were socialists

weak and predictable

lol it's ok to admit you didn't know it was a work of fiction

>low class.
this retarded

hey how about you answer my question? Surely you've done your taxes already and can tell me how much was on your W2

with the winds of change blowing socialism this way user, i'd say im actually winning.

whats there to answer?
we know how this works kid

low class confirmed. how much you making per year champ? Clearly over 450,000 if you are shilling so hard for the rich.

weak and predictable

>no, it's rude. Your parents clearly are of low class.
Holy shit. The irony. Being told you are rude on Yea Forums by someone who insults your parents.

Do you trust the government too?

>can't remember the question
how much do you make wageslave?

weak and predictable

sure kid
stay mad

>low class confirmed
this retarded

>>can't remember the question
stay mad kid

>wageslave
weak and predictable

I trust the government more than I trust corporations. Like I said before, look up thalidomide.

lol NEET confirmed.

>>"socialism".
>then the romans were socialists

I recommend spending less time trying to get a date a date with a "trap" and less time looking at cat videos.

how can i be mad, when everyone but the rich win?

>I trust the government more than I trust corporations.
this retarded

double-dipping lol. slow down and you won't make such newfaggy mistakes.

>thalidomide.
you act if it was intentional

this is inevitable, I'm with you, comrade

>NEET
that's you baby

>I recommend spending less time trying to get a date a date with a "trap"
this retarded

you think it wasn't? They haven't ever been forced to pay out.

Look up Bayer and the origins of heroin. That was definitely intentional.

>I trust the government more than I trust corporations

If you trust anything more than yourself, you have a problem.

>newfaggy
says the newfag

sure kid

I'll show you one of my paystubs if you show me yours

I heard an idiot millenial say this last week.

Trust NEITHER but especially not government. Corporations didn't 150 million into mass graves last century. That was government.

swing and a miss

>Instead of working at mcdonalds they could find a full time job and move up
Wow, it's as easy as that?

sure kid
fucking googletards

>paystubs
sure kid

kek, you are the exact definition of a tool if you think that corporations and government are two separate things

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the US government killed 150MM? Oh I think you're gonna have to cite that faggot.

this retarded

why can't you admit you don't have a paycheck?

false equivalence is the mark of an underage faggot

this retarded

Yes it is true. This is bc they're given this idea that it's their fault bc they're lazy and they buy into that mindset. The America dream has been dead for quite a while now, long before me and most of this generation were even born to see it

>paycheck
sure kid

>false equivalence
collegetard detected

Saying "weak and predictable" endlessly is itself weak and predictable.

>this generation
that's the funny part. listening to you cry

weak and predictable

>Corporations didn't 150 million into mass graves last century.
forget about corporations poisoning about 8 billion people though.

Kind of. I never planned on staying poor so I started a business and it's making me a lot than that stupid job I had before.

Nice self own

Citation needed

You are fucking retarded, thalidomide was a massive fuck up from a government side in Europe.

>corporations poisoning about 8 billion
sure kid

Talking about the whole world dumbass.

>Nice self own
so weak
so predictable

there is none

still retarded

Did I say that they are the same thing?
This is an example of how the lack of knowledge of dialectics leads to retarded mistakes.
Grow up, bitch.

Well one owns the other so....

What lie are you referring to? I'm literally considered lower middle class in America and yet I can afford a big tv, a house I furnished myself and just recently a new watch. I have no debt and have a savings.

nice argument, very clever, bum-boy

so they one dictates it's will throw the other

Such genius.

he's mad because he is a failure at life

>bum-boy
so weak
so predictable

>Such genius.
tries to bully
fails

Wow! What an absolute retard.

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but we're not talking about Europe you fucking moron. The FDA made sure it was never sold in the USA.

what a quick reply
like you are hanging on my every word

>redraw the debate parameters to make sure I win
fuck off already with your weak-ass conflations.

He might be but I don't get why people need to talk shit. I just worked hard at my job and was proactive in what I wanted.

Says a retard who wrote a ton of identical comments.
Bet your momma is proud of you.

you literally said they were the same. too stupid to remember your own posts

weak and predictable

>implying he knows his parents
you don't know how it works in St. Petersburg do you?

its the best they can do. they failed and they know it

so weak
so predictable

>too stupid to remember your own posts
he is.

>St. Petersburg
weak and predictable

perhaps but ты знaeшь чтo я пpaв

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>separate
>literally the same
kek, again
are your head and your body two separate things?
no? wow, this means they are "literally the same"
you are stupid, boy

you said they're the same, not me. just admit you done goofed.

How what works in St. Petersburg?
Your subway system building?

weak and predictable

what I mean he's probably a product of orphanages and foster systems. probably been diddled 7 ways from Sunday. that's why he has this shitty IRA job he's doing here.

This is my comment: Reread it blind, bitch.

cкoлькo oни тeбe плaтят?

yes and you are retarded

>only tools think they are separate
so you're saying..you're a tool?

I didn't miss it. Wealth inequality been getting worse since 1970

>The rich did not get rich by sharing their wealth.

Right. They did it by creating business, which means creating jobs and giving a lot of other people the opportunity to make more money and therefore injecting more money into areas that didn't have it before, while providing a product or service which is a benefit to society.

OKek

This is Fuck You, I Got Mine in a nutshell

weak and predictable

They aren't separate, but they aren't the same thing.
How fucking dumb you are?

so weak

>thalidomide
wasn't that created by a corporation though?

>creating business
and we all start from the same position with the same opportunities?

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well shit son by that "logic" we should get rid of taxes on the rich completely

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>and we all start from the same position with the same opportunities?

Uh no? Who said that?

lol self-owned, you're kinda special ain't ya?

acts as if it was intentional

shhhh, don't point out his lies by omission.

Now you're thinking

so weak
so predictable

just how rich is your daddy?

>self-owned
weak and predictable

weak and predictable

>implying the rich aren't rich because they fell out of the right crotch

weak and predictable.

I gave you a simple example of how it works here: Again - lack of knowledge of dialectics leads to retarded mistakes.

>In the late 1950s and early 1960s, more than 10,000 children in 46 countries were born with deformities such as phocomelia as a consequence of thalidomide use.
>In Spain, thalidomide was widely available throughout the 1970s, perhaps even into the 1980s.
huh, so you mean the pharma companies knew the problems, yet still kept pushing it?

weak and predictable

Useful idiot. Maybe if he works hard enough his entire life he'll have a Porsche and big house. Of course the owners will be onto thier 3rd of each and have been enjoying summer in the Hamptons for decades. He's so proud of being exploited and dreams of being the exploiter. It's cute

>weak and predictable
someone triggered?

>huh, so you mean the pharma companies knew the problems, yet still kept pushing it?
sure kid. why are you so on about this?

>Useful idiot
that's you kid

>It's cute
watching you cry is cute kid

because anyone trying to pass off corporations as somehow less evil than government is full of shit.

That's not true either. I am a former chef and now own my own business in a unrelated field. I actually prefer cooking for a living even though it is harder work. Unfortunately it also pays for shit and I had to give it up.

Being upset won't change the fact that what I said is true.

>full of shit.
that's you sweetie

>That's not true either.
you do realize i mean flipping burgers at fast food right?

>Being upset
that's you kid. your generation in a nutshell

>flipping burgers
thats you mate. right man for the job

if the governments didn't ban the drug for most of the uses it was before, they would still be pushing it giving flipper kids, and no fucks given, as long as the bottom line is still good.

nah, man. i enjoy sitting back collecting disability and SNAP.

backpedal all you want but you goofed

weak and predictable

cry more bitch millennial

weak and predictable

when you have nothing to add

someone sounds like their jimmies have been rustled. it'll be okay user, go listen to charlie kirk talk about how capitalism is god.

I'm right thou, and you got nothing constructive to say.
I suggest you to flee like a pussy you are.

>jimmies have been rustled.
whos crying about something that happened decades before they were born?
weak reply kid

weak

Yes.
Any American capable of introspection can see it.
Which is why most of them do not see it.

That's right, you can be rich too!
>Play lottery

Yeah its fun to see that most americans dont know that they are living in a shithole.

I'm doing fine thanks. Sergi. I own my own business and work far less for more than this Jarhead Kool-Aid drinker. I see the system for what it is but fortunately I'm also a Mensa member and I have life on easy mode because of it. Most people aren't smart and should have an easier time than they do. I don't want egalitarianism at all but being a bit less exploitative would be cheap and a benefit to society.
Of course I do. There are always people that need to be starting out. I worked at Taco Bell and a cafe for a starting job. But back in the 90s minimum wage and just over was shitty but enough to live off of. Now it is a joke. Also mobility has gone down in the work force because the boomers haven't saved properly and refuse to get the fuck out of the way which clogs the pipeline for promotion. Thats not even getting to the point that there should not be a quarter as many fast food restaurants shoveling out cheap poison as there are. They are popular because they are cheap, thier clients are poor and overworked and have no time to cook.

>and predictable
it is getting almost funny )

>Which is why most of them do not see it.
weak and predictable
you should talk about your own government.
oh wait you can't

>Sergi
weak and predictable
show business card

The Free Market Fundamentalists are in a purity spiral right now in America. Even though we have such a unlevel field for small business vs oligopolies

ok then, monsanto. you can deflect all day long user, but there will always be a corporation you can point out doesn't give a fuck about anything but profits.

>it is getting almost funny
its always funny kid.
that's why I'm here

>monsanto.
mean Hillary's employer?

>Monsanto
stay mad kid

You have drunk too much vodka there Yani if you think I am showing anything with even a shred of personally identifiable information in this cesspool. Keep thinking your doing great work though.

so you're a NEET LARPing on Yea Forums then.

sure, so are you going to connect the dots and realize that corporations perverted capitalism into cronyism?

Whoever said the other side of the 2016 coin was any better. We had the most embarrassing choices possible then. The only person in America that could lose to Trump was picked to run against him. We had viable options in the primaries and we said fuck it let's choose this con man, I like how he talks.

Where it took roots, they fucked themselves harder.

>I bet that beer tastes like ass

Soo...nice one Elon.

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weak and predictable

Yep you found me out, couldn't possibly be that some successful person has a different opinion. Go collect a gold star and some marinated herring.

Seriously don't you have some planning to do for the invasion of Moldova or something?

It isn't about getting rich. It is about making it to a place where you feel you have succeeded. I live in a trailer on my own land and raised a beautiful family. I am quite content with my accomplishments thank you.

still mad about that election huh kid?

How were they supposed to know? Thalidomide was the very first case, where doctors realized what was safe for the mother, was not necessarily safe for the child.

Before that, no one had any idea there was a difference. It takes accidents for these things to be realized. It wasn't even all children whose mothers took thalidomide that were deformed. The mother had to be taking thalidomide during a specific critical time period of development.

As soon as the cause of the child deformities was discovered, thalidomide was no longer allowed to be prescribed to expectant mothers.

>Yep you found me out,
weak and predictable

this is how it works.

Yeah. Because it is my 5th in a row with complete garbage. It sucks watching a slow motion catastrophie and getting older having read history and knowing where this show goes. I fear for the shitty lives my kids are looking to inherit and wishing my parents had done a better fucking job of being a steward of things.

The American commercial empire is failing slowly. I am agitating for a soft landing. Most people want to pretend it isn't happening.

>The American commercial empire is failing slowly
sure kid
stay mad

>5th in a row
so you still think bush stole the election?
lmao

Care to offer any counter factual evidence to us being replaced by an Asian acendency?
Nope. I voted for Bush the first time. I was naive and that was a huge mistake. I have been pissing my time, money and votes away on the libertarian party waiting for people to come around since then.

>factual evidence
stay mad kid

>I voted for Bush
sure kid

Socialism is a form of capitalism, you giant fucking mongoloic retarded piece of shit

That and nobody wants to complain about unfair or exploitative working conditions. The manly whole hearted American thing to do is to work harder and longer for an employer who will try in any way possible to get more from you for less and possibly eliminate your source of livelihood altogether as soon as it becomes profitable to do that, thereby poking holes in consumer spending and launching lives into fiscal chaos and impending existential emergency. You know, freedom.