Hey Yea Forums, I'm a 20 year old male who was diagnosed with major depressive disorder about 3 weeks ago...

Hey Yea Forums, I'm a 20 year old male who was diagnosed with major depressive disorder about 3 weeks ago. I was prescribed Wellbutrin XL 150mg and told that it takes 2 weeks to get a full response, however you usually see changes within 3 to 4 days. It's 1 week into taking this medication and I feel nothing except from the fact that everything has no taste, which makes me not eat more than a few bites of something a day just to keep myself going. My mother who is a psychiatric nurse told me that I should increase dosage to 300mg daily. That was yesterday. Today is day 2 of taking 300mg and I have been crazy panic attacks all day, weird heart palpitations, and the only thing that fixes these things is smoking weed. I have been a habitual smoker since 13, and am wondering if anyone has had long term marijuana use associated issues with Wellbutrin or if that is even a thing.

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>smoker since 13
There's effects on a lot more than just your medications, specifically on your brain and mental development. And since we're there, and since you're taking meds for depression, it is your highest prerogative right now to tell both your mother and whoever gave you the meds that you've been a habitual smoker since 13, if you haven't.

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Both my doctor and my mother are fully informed of how long and how much marijuana I use. They never mentioned that it would be a problem.

Hey bro, been tokin for years and been on a bunch of psych meds, it usually takes me about a month or two to feel the effects of meds, not sure if it's weed or what, but figured I'd share what got. Good news is meds help a TON, but they may take patience. It's worth it through, bro.

Appreciated user, thank you for the input.

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I'm going to tell you something you might not want to hear because I'm sure every doctor and likely even your mother will disagree but if you listen to me im going to save your fucking life kid.

Anti depressants are bullshit. All of them. All they do is fuck your brain up and make you dependant on taking these pills yo continue making these pharmaceutical companies money and to keep you dulled out. Quit taking them immediately. Once you replace the natural occurring chemicals in your brain it will take years of detoxing to correct. Years of feeling off and fucked up in the head. Don't ruin your life user you still have a chance to stop this right here and now. Figure out what's wrong in your life and actively take steps to change it and make your life better for yourself. Do not take pills to fix your problems they will never help you user. I really do hope you take this to heart.

Most antidepressants take anywhere from 4-6 weeks to reach the full effect. There are plenty of other options if you don’t think the Wellbutrin is working for you as well. Talk to your doctor about it, and they will more than likely prescribe something else for you to try. But as far as the side effects, what you listed is actually somewhat common for ~10% of Wellbutrin users. Again, talk to your doctor or your pharmacist and they will be able to help! Good luck and stick with it. Everything will start to feel better if you give it time.

Neurotransmitters are funny things. I took an SSRI for 10+ years. But realized now that I do not just have an issue with Serotonin flow, but also Dopamine, and addictive behavior.

I have smoked weed every day for the last 15 years. I have struggled with hard drugs earlier in life.

If I could do it all over again I would just try to and be healthy with food, sleep, exercise and smoke weed.

Treating your mind with SSRI/ NDRI/ MAOI's are a gamble and basically guess work by doctors. Nobody REALLY knows whats going on.

The goal is to be ok in your own body and mind.

Just know that getting on and off these drugs make everything difficult.

I'm probably about a month off my own SSRI's. The hardest part, is when you stop taking them. Then, you realize, life sucked on them, and life sucks off them.

It's just time to reroll.

you shouldn't smoke with Wellbutrin. Get a new doctor and smack yer Ma.

user 300mg is WAY too much for a therapeutic dose. welbutrin doses over 200mg for me results in a very interesting high im not at all surprised you had panic attacks

Well I certainly wasn't planning on taking these drugs for more than a month, maybe two. Medication coupled with therapy is shown to really help a lot of people. I wouldn't just take a drug and not actively try to change my life for the better to fix why I am feeling depressed. I appreciate your thoughts user, getting into a pattern of using a substance becomes very hard to stop the longer you use it. It certainly is for me with nicotine and marijuana.

I also woke up at 7:30 this morning, have been doing shit all day, and it is now 3:17 in the morning and I don't feel tired at all.

exactly its like adderall + twitchyness + paranoia

Escalation might be wrong. You're supposed to take 150 mg extended release (12h) for at least three days. There's also 150mg 24 h extended release which can be escalated by about day 4 then see how you feel by week two. How are you taking your meds and which are you taking?

like i said im not at all surprised you had panic attacks if you werent expecting something like that
on a side note your mother is a terrible psychiatric nurse

I am taking 2 Wellbutrin XL 150mg tabs PO in the morning.

Hey if she can still get 200k a year I don't really care.

Stop taking 2...stick with the regular dosage and avoid panic attacks, it is somewhat of a stimulant after all, which pairs terribly with people that have anxiety. Double dosage and you're asking for trouble

well go easy on the welbutrin and youll be fine i hope you learned your lesson to get your medical advice from your doctor instead of a nurse and to not take any more than the dr prescribed

I've been on so many different anti depressants I can't even remember them all.

First of all, it's probably the medication with pot withdrawal causing the panic attacks. Not even trolling.

Second, Wellbutrin is some of the worst shit you can be on. Don't stop taking it without weening off, but make a doctor appointment ASAP and ask for something else.

Ask if the doctor can do a genetic screen. You may need an SNRI instead of an SSRI.

I also recommend cutting back on the weed. Try to go a month without smoking. You can take Dramamine to help with the pot withdrawals.

I hope you have a seizure, faggot.

I would assume it would be safe to follow advice considering she is a psychiatric nurse who gives medication over the advice of a medical doctor who doesn't know shit about how the brain works.
Apparently it isn't

Sheesh user, what has you so upset?

Pot withdrawal? There is no withdrawing I smoke around the clock. Been baked for years brother, it's how I stay sane in life.

I just stopped taking Wellbutrin and was given Adderall instead. Best decision I've ever made. I am far more productive and motivated, and am able to leave my bedroom after self-isolation for months. Just make sure you don't have addictive tendencies because any stimulating medication has the potential for abuse/addiction. I'd recommend going low-dose if you go this route.

Your faggotry. You sound like a horrid fucking turd. Don’t ever post some gay shit like this again, it’s horrendously pathetic.

Do you feel better? I told you how to escalate safely, if you did less than 3 days on 150mg you're going to feel like you're on meth you know, insomnia, tachycardia, headaches, etc.

Max dosage is 450mg/day

Jesus christ this guy is just dripping salt.

I mean I feel pretty ok. I don't have tachycardia or any headaches but I am constantly thirsty. And I have way too much energy and stay up until 5 in the morning.

Maybe if you weren’t a useless fucking pothead your life would have worth and you wouldn’t need drugs to fix you.

Take it earlier in the day

I wish newfags like you would just shut the fuck up, trash like you have ruined Yea Forums. Leave, you retarded faggot.

We'll that's within the limits of "expected" for almost half the people who take it. You can use your dosage to help you reduce or quit your smoking after a couple of weeks. If you find the side effects to be too much, your Doctor might consider switching to immediate release so you can sleep longer, but personally I think it's the same.

I take it right when I wake up which is usually between 8 and 10am, Do I need to set an alarm for like 7 or something?

>pothead
>useless

ok retard

I have been on Yea Forums since I was 13 boy

you’re taking to much

The first thing for depression you should try is St John's Wort. If that does not work, see a doctor about agomelatine. It is a much better atypical antidepressant that has less side effects and is just as efficient as any other

Wellbutrin and Marijuana will result in schizophrenia. All anxiety and depression related issues in combination with repetitive usage of drugs, especially marihuana will end up bad. Why is our youth so fucking stupid these days by using marihuana by every fart that makes them feel bad, in a bad mood. STOP SMOKING WEED, THIS WILL END UP BAD. FOR SOME IN DAYS FOR OTHERS IN MONTHS.

Holy fucking shit, how retarded are you manchild?

vortioxetine

Probably smarter than you, cuckboi.

your the manchild

Wellbutrin worked for my depression, I was on 300mg... however it sort of made me go into full blown psychosis after awhile and I nearly crashed my car in a road rage incident.

Who the fuck says cuckboi?? Oh yeah.. newfags that talk like complete faggots like yourself. Chomp down your weakling pills.

Since it's already the topic of discussion, any advice for someone with severe depression and moderate anxiety of whom has tried both therapy and a couple antidepressants (citalopram did nothing, been on venlafaxine for about 3 weeks) and is still continuing to get progressively worse

>only smoke weed socially, which is rarely

“You’re”

Just stop taking those things and smoke weed

If you really want to take em snort them bad boy, mix with some coke or speed and you're set. DEPRESSION BE GONE!

Similar thing here, I also took SSRI's for over a decade with minimal improvement. Five or six different ones, sometimes in combination, all prescribed by three different doctors (when one plan didn't work I went to a different doc and told them my history). I thought I was just chemically fucked but lo and behold my last dr coupled my existing ssri (trintellix) treatment with the mood stabilizer (lamotrigine) and holy fuck in 3 weeks I started feeling much better. Lamotrigine was my own personal life saver. As you noted, serotonin flow isn't the ONLY chemical factor in the depression game. Also fwiw be careful taking lexapro, a few years of that killed my boners, now I'm an ED dick-tard.

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Bullshit. I've smoked bales of weed every day for 20 years. All my docs know. No one gives a shit. Every one of them has asked if I use drugs. I say yes, I smoke a lot of weed. And every single doctor has said no, I mean DRUGS.

Shouldn’t have taken faggot pills in the first place. Now you have to take Cialis / Viagra.

Been on sertraline (zoloft) since 2013. Started with 50mg which was great, increased up to 150mg. Since early February this year been without it. Since second half of 2018 I've been taking 10mg of Vortioxetine (Brintellix), didn't see much change until now. Without sertraline, vortioxetine seems to work.

I got off sertraline on my own, the doctor would've told me to take more time.

Weed is a mixed experience but I still like it. Doctor's against it mainly due to its illegality where I live.

OP, meds are a weird thing, it takes experience and balls to see your limits and sometimes make decisions about (LOWERING) your dosage. I've seen good results since I largely avoided alcohol (since New Year's this year) and caffeine turned out to make me worse too.

You can always try reading the side effects of your medication, having other doctors give you their opinions etc. Don't know about dosages for your medication, but increasing the medication twofold in one day seems a little risky to me.

Give up on that crap. Not even doctors understand what that stuff actually does. Call upon Jesus and give him your life. Ask him for his peace and be baptized, seek deliverance immediately and you will never struggle with that again if you have faith. Doctors get kickbacks for writing pills. And they will diagnose you with anything.

silence, cuck

You know, chemical imbalances are a thing. If that's what op has meds can help stabilize it. Don't be willfully ignorant you have so much real factual information at your fingertips 24/7

Try to join group activities and exercise. It works temporarily for me. I do cycling and it made quite a difference. Cheers

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Don't listen to this bullshit.
Had taken sertraline for 2 months last year (jan-feb) and it's been a life changing experience, I'm not dependent on it and the benefits of it are unquestionable.

Let me guess you're one of those "weed cures all of your ailments" retards, aren't you?. You don't need to respond, I already know it's true.

Just change your diet diet, sleep more, and start working out. Don't fall for the SSRI / amphetamine / antidepressant jew pills.

Loser pills for a big faggy loser.

I'm not a doc but I have been on welbutrin XR and smoked weed. I know i went from being depressed to psychoticly enraged. I was a demon to my parents from the small flashes of memories I have of that time period. In general though I don't really remember it well. I know I went from 6'1" 171lbs strong build to 6'1" 295lbs fat ass. Everyone is different though man. It's trial and error.

Wrong, assume again.. faggot.

I've been on it since the summer and I find it very good for me. I have motivation in the morning, I want to see friends. it has improved my mood significantly but it took me a few weeks to realize it.

Nah, he's probably one of the faggots drinking and chain smoking while preaching the virtues of not taking "chemicals".

Agreed, sertraline/zoloft does wonders. The only thing you may or may not like is taking longer to ejaculate.

I want a kickback. I only get office supplies and crap for teaching. I want a free ticket to this year's ACP meeting and all I get is depression. Fuck big pharma

Went to the doc for your weak mind... and now you have delayed ejaculation? Just an hero.

those "meds" are just hard drugs

Nah, I'm right.

treacherous eunuch

Do you get really vivid dreams? My anti depressants have me remembering my dreams like a motherfucker, also some lucid dreaming.

Its wild

Your doctor is retarded and told you wrong. Wellbutrin is a mild amphetamine that acts immediately.

I used to smoke weed with my script. Doesn't hurt.

That said, wellbutrin is b& in a lot of countries for a reason; it's very strong and can cause seizures with extreme doses.

Throw it in a coffee grinder and rail it. It burns like hell, but you can get mild coke-like effects from it that way. It doesn't bind to dopamine when it's metabolized by your liver, but it does if it goes thtough your nose!

Don't overdo it, though. It can be addictive and even dangerous to take too much.

There are few group activities in my town, and the ones that exist are usually populated by assholes

I’m sure your mother tells you this often, pill scarfing faggot.

Why it means he can last longer. You user, are clearly a virgin

This is also absolutely true.

Not wellbutrin. They brand it as an antidepressane, but it's almost exactly like amphetmine in chemical structure.

You would fit right in, since you post in Yea Forums threads. Genuine loser asswipe.

an hero? Not a chance, I'm a happy motherfucker now. You on the other hand sound like an angsty little schoolgirl and because of that you are 100% more likely to an hero than I am. You might want to consider that option to curb your glaringly obvious faux-edge.

I mean, using Yea Forums as a means of telling who is and isn't an asshole is a tad odd, but whatever floats your boat I guess

Welbutrin worked for me well. Started with 150 with no effect just like you. Switched to 300 in the morning after about a month of 150 failimg me and started turning into a functioning adult after approximately 1, 2 more months, stop taking it for a week once due to vacation and forgetting my meds, and i just slothed in the bed like I used to before the pills. Currently in transition period of using 150 daily, to avoid dependency. So far no panic attacks or loss in motivation. Can't promise the same to happen to you, since the anti depressants train is basically a trial and error run, hoping your brain won't melt before finding what really helps.

What do you enjoy or used to enjoy prior? As long as it's physical activity, things will seem better for a short while even if there are a few assholes.

too bad for you, guess you should kill yourself

Holy fucking shit, I can’t believe how mentally disabled you are. I’m just eating this shit up, I love when retarded faggots like you just talk out of your asshole. Keep taking those loser pills, you will need them for a lifetime.. stupid faggot.

Don't take the. They will turn you into a mass shooter.

don't take the what?

A plethora of newfags.

Don’t.

>smoker since 13
look no further
I solved my problem with kratom.

Anti deppressants.

I don't really enjoy anything these days, other than adrenaline. I'm an emotionless husk of my former self, I don't really feel anything other than bouts of loneliness and adrenaline from doing, well, dumb shit. Hanging outta card and going fast, y'know? I use to like writing and running, but lack the motivation for either. I have managed to replace running with peaceful night walks

same here. Smoker and drinker for 20 years. Now I jog, lost 20k etc.

I think you should see a regular doctor vs your mom. Doubt the weed is actually helpful

I'm in the same boat. I bought a motorcycle and started riding. I didn't want to crash too fast so I'm learning to ride a heavy bike off-road. I get my adrenaline that way and don't injure myself (much) or anyone else. I met a bunch of assholes that turned out to be great people and ride with them. Things seem almost normal for a few hours and that makes it worthwhile. Perhaps you can run against some virtual assholes on Strava, or discover your city at night. Isolation is what kills us, depressive types. It is said that men with firearms, alone in their bedrooms in the wee hours are the most prone to fuck up.

fking ad's dont ever work, dont bother you will be better

Kek

You don't need medication. You're depressed because your parents are cunts. Get a job and move out.

Antidepressants do not actually work, not in any meaningful/long term way, they might help in the short term but that's about as good as it gets

I've been thinking of saving up and getting a bike, but that requires both a job and a license. Both of which make me extremely anxious. I don't even really know why getting a job makes me anxious. Driving is because while my life has gone to shit and I both want to die but want to get better, I have an irrational fear of getting in an accident and ruining someone else's life

summerfag

Your concerns are perfectly valid and speak well of you. I believe your kindness won't let you injure anyone. I also believe that you're probably too concerned about failing. A job might make things better, you'll get money, time outside, people to talk to , and if not then quit. Fuck it. Until you're well that is. Once it's over (it will) you'll be wondering what took you so long. I know because this is my second time, I was remiss with my treatment and everything went to shit.

Finding a cure for your depression through pills wont ever help you, I learned this the hard way, pills will only mask away the problem and it will come back stronger not mentioning you pretty much will be hooked to them for life (not addiction wise but just for the effect), I had severe anxiety that developped into social phobia and then depression, motivated myself to eat better, work out and have positive outlooks and I have never even been better, It's hard to do but achievable, good luck man.

I don't believe I have a fear of failure? I might tho, I don't know. I sorta expect it most of the time, resulting in friends thinking I have an inferiority complex. My expectation of it, an potential inferiority complex don't really surprise me, as they probably stem from my childhood, having the concept of uselessness drilled into my mind. I don't even really feel pride when I am good at things, but I'm not sure if that's good or bad