Fantasize about feeling feminine, pretty, and cute

I'm not going to get rid of the muscle I have.
I know I can't be cute, so I might as well be attractive in other ways.
But I can't kill the desire.

putting on feminine shit arouses you because you don't get enough female contact
this shit is way more simple than people make it out to be

So you're saying it would stop if I got a gf or something?

I'm like the opposite of you.
I love dressing in girls clothes or doing crossplay. It lets me look cute, makes me happy and brings me attention and affection.
At the same time I don't get excited by it or like the penis.

I wish it made me look cute, but it does not. I do love getting male attention online if they treat me like I'm cute, but I would never pass in a million years, at least not without heavy filter effects from apps.
I think it would make me happy if I actually felt cute wearing female clothes. I've done VR chat a couple times with a female avatar and I enjoyed that.
I really wish it didn't turn me on though, because I feel like it undermines why I'm doing it.

gay

I understand your pain.
Unfortunately crossdressing really isn't for everybody.
Even as a trap I get sick looking at men in stockings and fat transgender slobs, although it's not like I have an excessively high opinion of myself - it just happens to work out well enough and people are happy with how I look.
You can still be a cute guy if you put in the effort however, and it's overall more accepted and less time consuming than crossdressing.

Yeah same thing hear man

This.

Look, faggot. You're probably just a bit of a submissive. Since you don't have a girlfriend to project this on, or be submissive to (bad idea, women should be kept in place), you've somehow got it in your head that dressing up in women's cloth could somehow make you the woman you're watching in porn. It doesn't, it never works. Even if you were 12 and started taking hormones to become the perfect trap, chances are that one day you'd wake up at age 30+, realize what you've done, and kill yourself (like a lot of them do).

Now take our advice and get a girlfriend, or at least hire a prostitute. Maybe consider getting a dating app, and meet some overweight woman or single mother to bang the gay out of you until you get the confidence to go for a less broken one.

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>Even as a trap I get sick looking at men in stockings and fat transgender slobs
Right?? I've seen online cd communities before, and they just look absolutely terrible a lot of the time while they continually pat each other on the back in a kind of circlejerk way. I want to look *good* while I'm doing this, or else there's no point. I feel bad for the actual trannies with dysphoria, because they don't really have much of a choice.
>You can still be a cute guy if you put in the effort
I'm going to have to go this route (and it's what I mostly do, I don't crossdress in public). But it's also difficult because I have to rely on the opinions of others to determine if I'm cute as a guy or not, because I don't normally find men cute.

I want to be treated cute, but at the same time not feel guilty about it.

You're overthinking this. Everyone goes through phases where they wish they looked better in this or that, and the frustration of not having a certain body type. I still occasionally look wistfully at full-figured girls and wonder what could have been, but there are pos/neg to everything. There are a lot of good things about my body type, and I still get plenty of attention.

There's no reason to feel shame about something you have no control over. If you like dressing up and it makes you feel good, do it. There are people who will love you and think you're cute no matter what you're wearing. Go find them. Love and luck.

>become the perfect trap, chances are that one day you'd wake up at age 30+, realize what you've done
That really isn't how it works.
If you are happy with something you're in the clear.
OP isn't happy with his crossdressing and so he'll quit.
The trannies that kill themselves all have certain things in common:
>severe mental issues
>self harm
>being unhappy with themselves both pre- and post-transition
Some simply fool themselves, thinking they will be happy after transitioning, or force themselves to believe they are no female or attractive, or happy with their body.
The problem is: Deep down they acknowledge they really aren't, and eventually they lose the fight against their mental illness.
There's also well-adjusted people however. Losing your youthful beauty is just part of life, no matter male, female or some kind of freak.
The problem is simply being persistently unhappy with yourself.
For a few that means they lose their last hope of loving themselves as they grow old, but this is rare and incredibly shallow.

i've never understood why anyone would feel shame after fapping. you enjoyed it. obviously. get over the fact you'll never be a tiny wifu, jerkoff to whatever you like, and relax. you're gonna fukn make it.

I don't know, the feeling of shame was powerful and involuntary. It just happened. I don't normally feel guilt after fapping, but I did just then.

Yeah, transgenders and trap-enabler communities can be awful and cancerous. It's horrible and dangerous how they support peoples delusions.
I habor a healthy skepticism towards others opinion of what I do. If I wasn't happy with it myself I wouldn't do or share it.

I'm not really confident enough to crossdress outdoors oftenly either, usually it's for the sake of crossplaying, which is fun and often good-humored, instead of potentially creepy.

In the end one of the most important factors is who you are with. You need someone who can make you genuinely believe in yourself.

i relate to this but have nothing to contribute so i'll just bump and lurk

I have the same feelings as you. I've not heard of AGP before, red pill me?

This. I used to masturbate to sissy captions and all sorts. Got a gf and snapped right out of that shit.

6 months after we break up and I'm sliding back to my old tendencies.

Feel generally similarly user, been through more or less that experience.

I'm pissed I'm not a girl, been taking hormones a while, and I'm not much more sold that they'll make me feel like a woman ultimately, but I'm happier with my body and more comfortable with my lack of assurance in my gender.

When people really press me I'll identify as nonbinary but I'm really not about explaining to people.

Moral of the story is that this guy
pretty much gets it. Figure out who you are, explore your weirdness insofar as you understand there's nothing wrong or shameful about it, and find someone open-minded.
Was lucky enough to find a queer camgirl on Tinder and she doesn't care what I am but we both like my new boobs so life is good.

You're overthinking. Do what you like, find your own path. Trying to determine if you're trans or gay or whatever if the label isn't sticking or feeling right can ultimately be a trap that a lot of trans-questioning people fall into.

The less you analyze and the more you do and be what you want the happier and less shameful you'll feel.

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It is this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard's_transsexualism_typology#Autogynephilia

Also, AGP/Blanchard's shit has some academic and classification value, but is generally a pointless typology for trans people and those helping to diagnose trans people.
IMO it's done a lot more harm than good.

What I forgot to mention was that you may well lose interest in some or all of what you feel, or you may not. The only danger is in labelling yourself and then clinging to that label or identity longer than is right for you.

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Thank you

Mm! As an aside, Queer makes a great blanket identity if you go deep down this rabbit hole but don't feel comfortable claiming the trans label.

And just fyi there are girls that are into subby guys in a non-obnoxious or excessively dommy way. Long as you're not attempting to pile on the "chad/bro/whateverthefuck" overmasculine bullshit you'll meet people who aren't attached to the tough guy thing that a lot of us are taught as kids to aspire to.

There are girls that will think your lack of hypermasculinity is bullshit and they'll break your heart, but like. They're shitty people anyway and definitely the minority. Despite what high school teaches us.

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Thanks. Yeah I'm really not attached to masculinity at all. I just want to feel cute, and I love it when people make me feel that way. I hope I can find a girl that's okay with that.

>That really isn't how it works.
>If you are happy with something you're in the clear.
What do you think happens when you wake up at age 30 looking like Ellen Page with the body of an effeminate man? Suicide isn't rare with trannies, it's common. Something like 40-50% of these mentally ill freaks try to kill themselves at some point.

Take hormones if you want to. Don't snip anything off, though - that's a turn down suicide lane. A feminine penis is the mark of a good trap, remember that. The second you snip, you're competing with regular women, and of course you're nothing compared to a real woman, never will be. As a (passing) trap, you've got good market value, even if it's a niche audience.

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This made me laugh, but no, I don't think being a passing trap is in the cards for me, unfortunately.

I've been a closet sissy since I was a kid. Been dressing up and sticking things up my ass for as long as I can remember. Done some seriously gay shit. Funny thing is I'm married and if you ever met me you would think I'm strait as an arrow.

>all contact
Not just female

I feel. My experience has been that I'm better at making myself feel cute than other people. Pic related. Comfy leggings and a bigass sweater with a comfy tank underneath.

I know what my face looks like and I'm kind of over my fear of not passing, but I love my newly fluffy hair and oversized sweaters are a gift from the gods.

I want to call you a misogynistic prick but I feel. I've got a doc I trust and if he tells me the surgeries have advanced enough to impress me, we'll see what happens, but it's not on the agenda. I like sex too much to fuck with what I've got going on, dysphoria notwithstanding.

The suicide stat really doesn't correlate to "oh fuck I've made a mistake," unless you got talked into believing you're trans before you really got comfortable with the idea for yourself. And most of these people realize pretty quick and just stop taking hormones before they've "done any damage." Friendly reminder that everything but the tits are reversable, and they'll shrink if you quit E.

I spent a lot of time being afraid that this is what happened to me, till I realized the feeling wasn't going away and decided to try hormones. No more confident in my womanhood, but I love my body in a way I didn't before, and I don't anticipate regretting that. Provided my dick stays working. Again, find a doc you love and trust if you do go HRT.

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Having "done some gay shit" doesn't make you less straight. S'alright dude, more kids than would ever admit put stuff up there. A shockingly small number of them grow up to be any kind of outwardly queer.

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It's because you were molested

Yeah but who wasn't? Real talk I think not being able to be sexually active was way more damaging to young me than neighbor lady touching my junk a few times.

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Wrong pic related

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No. My childhood was relatively normal.
I've convinced myself that HRT is not a realistic option for me. Especially if I want to still be attractive for people into men, no? Not to mention that I don't have dysphoria anyway.

I actually got something like that recently, but it's gray and for men. It's comfy af

Then by all means don't. Queer girls love me but straight people are usually uncomfortable getting too close, regardless of their sex. I'm not advocating for HRT, I'm just trying to point out the way in which it has been positive without being central to my "transition," such as it is. I'm pleased with it but I question the validity/need daily.

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Understood.
You look good btw.
I hope you have a pleasant evening :)

Found the storm fag

>I want to call you a misogynistic prick but I feel.
You feel what? I'm definitely "misogynistic", at this point stating that you're white and of the male gender, one of the two genders (as specified by the B in LGBTQPZN+), probably classifies as "hate speech" somewhere.
>I've got a doc I trust and if he tells me the surgeries have advanced enough to impress me, we'll see what happens, but it's not on the agenda.
Yeah, and keep it off. Of course a doctor will tell you to do his specific procedure, it's what doctors do. It's like asking a hair dresser if you need your hair cut. Ask a heart surgeon if you need a procedure, and he'll probably pull out a circular saw right then and there. It's why people who get into cosmetic surgery start all looking the same, there's never a point where the doctor will say "I don't know, maybe you should stop?".

Not bad, but I still recommend keeping the cock, functional or not (does something like caverject work for a non-functional tranny cock?). I never got why some trannies/traps/whatever do the snip-snip thing. You're never going to get a naturally lubricating and cleaning canal, it'll always be basically a wound in some state of healing, that you have to keep dilating and clean disgusting stuff out of. No, technology and surgery isn't remotely there. You'd need to get to a point where you could artifically grow a real vagina for it to be worth it for them, and even then, only fetish-guys would go for it as any normal person would feel cheated/feel like something was "off".

Ty. I feel good. Been a while getting here. Appreciate ya.

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is this a laugh you lose thread?

Nah my guy's less "so you're trans," and more "so you wanna look different. That's cool, here's my thoughts." He's not pushy and he and I are pretty much on the same page.

Appreciate the concern tho. Trust me, I'm at least as up-to-date on the realities of the surgery as you are. Took me way too long to finally let myself get E, I'm not about to make any rash decisions.

Oh damn I lose gg man.

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