The massive support he enjoyed in 2016 proves it’s inevitable

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You can’t actually be this stupid

You get the bag and fumble it I get the bag and flip it and tumble it

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>They didn’t do it right. The government had too much power and was corrupt.

So you're supporting and voting for someone that wants the government to have more control and more power over your life.

There's really no hope for you.

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Bernie is a communist faggot

an elected body of GOVERNMENT bureaucrats/officials.

That is Venezuela, in a nutshell.

you can't be this naive.

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I guess financial justice is when no one has any money because everyone is bankrupt.

>democrat

>elected body

oh joy,cant wait for the minorities to get everything while the white people get jack shit.which is basically what your phony "fairness"will be.not that it matters,america would be bankrupt long before then because you morons dont realize socialism doesnt work

and you think america under a democrat presidency wont have too much power and be corrupt? lol,just look at obama,nigger ran the country with his pen and his phone instead of running it the correct way

>an elected body will control production and reallocation of resources
what if i want a private company? will you take it by force?

>reallocation of resources
whoops i think you meant theft!

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either way,bernie sanders would just get fucked by the dnc again like he did last time so who cares

warren will stab him in the back so fast

The old way doesn't work anymore. Us oldfags are looking like newfags again.

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The way he was cucked by Hillary in 2016 proves its inevitable it will happen again. Hes not a moderate the DNC wont let him get the nomination just like before.

>The massive support
Then why didn't he win?

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Yup, theft from immoral people who failed to fulfill their obligations to society, so now the government is going to force you to do it.
Every philosopher from the dawn of time has understood that if the rich(aka the ruling class) don't take care of the poor, society will fail. Seeing as the rich are failing at doing their duty, the government must force you to do it, so that society can be maintained.

That's what they said about roads and public schools too. I know public school has failed you but can we at least agree that roads are a good thing?

The use of the state regulation and tax incentives is preferred over direct control of businesses and nationalizing industry.
Which is what Venezuela did.

The DNC will move to the left. Biden already got shut down by a focus group. People want someone bold and progressive. Hillary lost because she was too moderate. Bernie is the answer

The DNC fucked with the primaries. Why do you think Trump won?

We can rebuild her Yea Forums, whose got the infant stem cell injector

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You forgot all of the states that have successful union structures... including America at it's peak. Even Reagan was just indicted into the Labor union hall of fame (even though he eventually killed unions)

Did Bernie have a stroke or WTF? He can’t even articulate a cohesive thought without a bunch of ummms and uhhhs and a bit of drooling.

Unions =\= socialism. Jeeezus

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Or Norway, or Canada, or Australia, or Denmark, or Sweden, Or the UK, or France, or Japan, or Germany, or the United fucking States, or Finland, or Iceland, or the Netherlands, or South Korea, or New Zealand, or Belgium, or Italy, or Spain, or any other civilized, industrial nation, including the United States, all of which have mixed economies with social safety nets. Venezuela is a dictatorship, run by idiots, meddled with by hegemonies. Of course you wouldn't know that because you're only capable or willing to just repeat Fox memes instead of thinking for yourself.

Might have something to do with not receiving enough votes.

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We'll see.

>People want someone bold and progressive.
Where do you get your info from? The leaders of the democratic party want a moderate. The loose cannons in congress you hear about on Fox/MSNBC/CNN do not speak for the democratic party leaders who choose.

>rich arn't paying there fair share, though they pay more than the poor
>steal from the rich
>Wonder why the rich leave and take there business elsewhere thereby hurting the poor even more

Man, imagine the hoops you have to jump through to justify yourself everyday. You know.. this recently happened in nyc where they said they even said god forbid if the reach leave. (not mentioning the aoc debacle)

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I don’t think you know what socialism is, son. Those are market/capitalist countries.

>Venezuela is a dictatorship, run by idiots
Thats how all socialist states end up history proves it. Social safety nets eventually implode by mismanagement and thats what youre left with, but go ahead and ruin your country its about time the great USA takes it in the ass.

Good point here in the UK only the health service is socialist and fucking sarcastic because of it

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sshhh!!! Let him spew his shit its hilarious.

that's not really a meme

Are you actually against trying to make everyone more equal and life more fair? This is why you’ll always lose in the long run. Morality will win over greed

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>You fucking idjit, John McCain died like 5 years ago.

Beastiality is illegal is the only thing stopping Bill

lol, this

Thats a bit harsh dude Chelsea is what doggy style is for

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The GND requires gov intervention/control of energy, healthcare, education, transportation, agriculture, etc. If you don’t think the mass take-over of entire industries reeks of Socialism, you’re willfully blind to it

then go for it! give the power to the People!

He just never admitted it out loud.

There should be an age cap on presidential candidates. This old fool could drop dead tomorrow. Just look at him

well…. one idiot did

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You mean the power to the govt and we all know the govt is inefficient and ineffective at everything.

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so you have absolutely no idea what socialism is, do you?

the government regulates all those things now though rather weakly. america is a mixed economy already just not a well functioning one due to corporate oligarchy. your argument is invalid

Ohhh. GND implementation intends to turn control of those industries over to you and your friends? I didn’t read that part

At least he is honest about it, unlike most men. If I had a daughter who looks like that, I would want to bang her too.

Right, and complete control/regulation will me markedly worse and one huge step right into Socialism

don´t be scared user, i heard Donald trump say he would drain the swamp, so there won´t be any corruption and incompetence anymore

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>I didn’t read that part

indeed, mate

test
The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region

so what would be the Problem if clinton wanted it?!

Trumps a blowhard. The answer to trump isn’t some crackpot idea that balloons national debt by 4X. The dems have gone crazy. The answer to Trump is a reasonable candidate, but that would be asking too much.

far to late for that. GOP blew it with Sarah palin. republican base went completely bonkers, now only the most extreme figures get attention

>the massive support
>didn't even win primarys

. . .wut

>complete control/regulation
conflating regulation with complete control. regulation implies private business still exists, like in denmark. maybe prioritize facts by looking at the countries with the highest standard of living and adopt a similar balance of market and government, instead of feelings because you worship of market forces.

Anyone who runs against Trump is going to lose. It's a fact, get over it

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or in other words hillary had to cheat to stop him from winning

>Hillary lost because she was too moderate
Hillary lost because she's a shill for corporations, same as the Republicans, and the natural Dem voters are tired of this shit.

Russia will make sure of that, Right Ivan?

>phase out in 10yrs
>not gov controlled
Pick one

>Wonder why the rich leave and take there business elsewhere
Trump's maga hats were made in China, lmfao.

but thats okay

Watching white trash Amerifags vote against the best chance they have for a better life is hilarious. Do you make 200k or more a year? No? Then vote for Bernie. It really is that simple.

this

Gib dat better life money

Well REKT, user.

OP goes into damage control mode after peers disapprove of his shit-tier online trolling tactics: the post

OP is a troll. OP pic is doctored to make Bernie look even more autistic than he actually is. Good b8 m8

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>implying he needs to do that
everyone already knows the left can't meme
stop pretending that stealing other peoples memes and changing a few things up = originality; it doesn't.

lol, he already kissed Pelosi's ring. There's is not a chance in hell the Dems will let him anywhere near that Whitehouse, other than to visit and kiss the ring some more.

An old 80 year old white guy as the Democrat's POTUS hahahahahahahaha never will they let that happen. You're delusional.

BTW, Pelosi hates Socialism, try as she might otherwise. So do most establishment Dems.

Just because we succeed with some social safety nets doesnt mean its working or that has done much for us.

Btw, Canada and UK healthcare system is failing massively (taxes will need to increase AGAIN).

One of the best economies with much social safety net is Denmark. Whats funny is the upper-class pays similar effective tax rates compared to the U.S. Only the poor and middle class pay their insane tax rate (which their property tax on vehicles has made it so driving it unreachable by many people).

30 posters. Half arguing in favor of financial justice. I guess it worked.

user: the rich will leave and take their business elsewhere
Me: They already take their business elsewhere
user: But that's okay
Me: Are you fucking retarded?

Canadian here. Heath care system isn't failing. Broke my arm earlier this year, spent some time in the hospital, didn't pay a dime.

Yes, 350 on average. Usually more. Sanders will not be POTUS. He simply does not have the fortitude and his own party will make sure of it.

I mean, I had to wait 6mo for the appointment, so the docs had to break it again to set it properly, but it was free, so....

>his own party
He's an Independant, you dotard.

Not that guy, but He is trying for the democratic nomination, so still relevant

Nah. I was in that day, stayed for a few days. Didn't need it reset or anything.

>still relevant
Not really.

thats what i dont get. why is he running for the democrats? not us-citizen so i dont know what the Benefit is

I guess you missed the part were I said he already kissed Pelosi's ring. In other words, he signed the Democratic loyalty pledge for his in 2020.

You dumb uninformed faggot. He's running as dem with independent next to it, which means nothing. He's trying to full the retarded people into thinking hes still not bought and paid for. Trust me, a man with three houses in his position is bought.

>his in 2020
RUN*

third party and independent literally can't win presidency. he wants to be president

When’s the last time an independent won? So, yeah, relevant. He has a snowball’s chance in hell unless he gets the nomination, but he’s an old, tired, weird white guy who would get absolutely destroyed in a debate with trump, so he won’t.

>he owns houses, how can he be a Socialist
whew lad

what a stupid Voting-System

oh shit denmark is phasing out business in 10 years?

True, he’ll just have to give two of them up for housing justice. No biggie.

>old, tired, weird white guy
And Trump is a fucking moron, he still got the nomination. Anything is possible in the farce that is American politics.

yeah we need ranked choice. be nice if the worst conservative president we got was ron paul

It’s a reference to the GND, numbnuts

>who would get absolutely destroyed in a debate with trump
it's cute that you think that since trump is pretty good at name calling shitty candidates with no substance like hillary. he can't stand up to actual facts though, that's why he's so scared of bernie

10 years and then everybody loves it then it gets forever like medicare, medicaid
let those losers die don't give them healthcare
clean air is for the rich

True, but Trump, being the blowhard he is, was seen as a chad. Bernie is seen as a weakling. I just don’t see

ron Paul really was fine

No. Bernie can’t even articulate a thought without a dozen hmmms and ummms. His performance would be dismal, regardless of intellect or facts

If by destroy you mean name call, lie etc

Trump turned at least one debate down with Bernie last election. I'm pretty sure Bernie would spank Trumpitos pp with logic facts and reason like any other canidate

All Dems need is another Republican to split the vote.

>regardless of intellect or facts
US politics in 5 words

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so he speaks normally and is capable of articulating thoughts. that's one step ahead of the current president

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I can't wait for him to run again and dumb leftists kikes donate their life savings to him only for him to shill out for hillary who literally broke the law and use the democrat party to steal his votes again hahahahahaha

>government had too much power
>socialism
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Idk, user. It would be entertaining for sure. Schultz will split the dem vote and that’s a given. No wonder dems are pissed at him. No republicans will run against trump

even corporatists don't want hillary around, she has the death touch. if he's cheated again it will be kamala or maybe biden

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I like bern I’m fact I’ll vote for him since everyone else is shit but I think he could of had a way better strategy, see he’s the center of his strategy and that’s the flaw, he’s old white and a guy. Those all describe most rebulicans but not democrats. So I’ll the dems and undecided see him as just someone who say the right things but will he stand by them. So instead of being smart and throwing his weight behind someone he could trust or has similar views but younger, he decides he wants to be president and nobody else could do a better job(in his mind) than him. He should just accept at his age he will never be higher than a vp if he even got that far. Say he had a long talk with booker or Someone younger he could take the old folks vote relating to them while the younger guy could press values and change that are relatable. Then again there’s so many democrats that if they don’t get to gather and just choose a strong candidate instead of embarrassing eachother on a debate where people can’t relate to any of them seeing each ones flaws and just out right not voting.

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Could I technically run as a republican just to force a debate?

lol just how we know trump, Right?

The president literally said if he loses it’s because the dems cheated , sounds like every dictator in the world to me

we dont know him at all

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We found the Russian/Alabama troll

lol

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Hi Ivan! Still sucking cocks for kopeks? Get AIDS Ivan!

Joke's on you, he was my favourite character!

not sure if you are trolling or a creep

you cant be that stupid. open your damn eyes and see that killary had that nomination loooooooooooooooooong before bernie thought about running. socialists bitch about corruption but fail to see it when its got its saggy tits in their faces

There’s an old saying that now corresponds with rebulican fascist

Better dead than red

And that is why he died

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Libs are much closer to fascism with their anti free speech, put you on a list, moral high ground mentality.

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speaking About him. is there a Chance he will come back in the final episodes? one of those ice-zombies?

Canada is fine. Minimal wait times, great staffing, current treatments. And not privately owned so a broken leg is not ten thousand dollars.

Exactly!

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the only threat to free speech in the US are the anti-BDS laws being passed. criticize israel and trump calls you antisemitic

applauding your own Picture there, mate?

>only threat
Actually believing this. Haha

Nope

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Yeah it was my pic and so is this

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sure kid

this retarded

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this retarded

sure kid

this retarded

yes he is

US believing political embellishments about other countries again. I, and everyone I know, includIng mother with stomach cancer, dad with heart attack, ever had to wait any sort of long time. When I lived in SC, the hospitals were beautiful but set up to just drain your wallet and fill you with pills

this retarded

that would be your generation kid

this retarded

sure kid

Source I'm french.

Unemployment rate over 7% since the fucking 80's, 60% tax cut on your wage, limited freedom, and all sorts of bs... If you like being taken rough in the ass you may like it, otherwise it's not a good idea at all. It may sounds appealing but it's garbage, trust me.

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sure kid

sure kid

retarded and predictable

this retarded

Get on the march then

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this retarded

You want me to kill myself ?

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weak and predictable

you would be far far worse without your socialist programs. look at your products: whine, and shitty cars. and even those are subsidised by your gouvernment.

sure kid

that was quick
stay mad kid

you don't

this retarded

Donald Trump will be the next president. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. He literally has a 90% chance of being president. Incumbent almost always wins and looking at the divided field of pathetic democrats competing for 2020 they basically have no path to victory.

nice to see you're staying mad kid

stay mad kid

>He literally has a 90% chance of being president
lol. did he told you? would like to have some citation with that, mate

sure kid

sure kid

this retarded

this retarded

this retarded

I won't vote for a socialist or a progressive. If the Democrats don't distance themselves from the far-left, I will grudgingly vote for Trump.

If they get someone like Andrew Yang in, I'd vote Democrat.

this retarded

just plain weak

Ahah nope, he's not doing any good. Just ad more taxes and empower the state with stupid laws. Fuck them!

fuck off, i want america to fucking die so im voting trump again. he's the only man that can do the job and finally kill this bitch lady liberty.

this retarded
you keep waiting for that "justice" retard

sure kid

like i keep waiting for ur mom to stop sucking my dick after i cum

sure kid

sure kid

Voting for Bernie over Warren is sexist

NO REFUNDS
webmshare.com/oGwZL

The citation is that the incumbent president has always won re-election besides jimmy carter who lost his 1980 relection campaign. Hes arguably the worst president we've ever had. Yes he was actually a bad president and it cost him reelection. Destroyed the economy, fucked up the hostage crisis among other things. Like real fuck ups, not CNN sourced donald trump fuck ups.

this retarded

this retarded

>not part of the yang gang

this retarded

sure kid

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Yang will never be the nominee. They wont let him and he doesn't have the balls to be man enough to make the people rally around him. Hes too wimpy, not aggressive enough, and will be destroyed in the primary. Hes like the Jeb! bush of the democrats except with zero name recognition.

Oi if your wife was 25 years older than you and had fucked mick Jagger you might struggle to find decent policies as well

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Nobody’s gonna vote for some Chinese kid

when the weak get weaker

This. The guy has well thought-out policies for everything. I don't agree with all of his solutions, but he's sane and at least puts his ideas out there for public scrutiny.

stay mad kid

this retarded

Trump literally has a list, can u provide this imaginary dems list?

still waiting for proof

retarded and predictable

The Trump voters are so in love with Trump they want to suck his dick so bad.

They never went to college and they get all their news from the racist memes that grandpa shares on facebook. But somehow think they are more informed and outsmart everyone.

stay mad kid

sure kid

stay mad kid

Joe biden will be the nominee for 2020 and if anyone else thinks otherwise they are retarded. They wont let bernie be the nominee, they will bend the knee to biden because of obama nostalgia.

moms been dead for 20 years

try living through it

It's not because something works here that it can work elsewhere. Scandinavian people are not educated like any other western countries. In those cold as fuck countries mutual aid always as been really strong, there is much more respect between social classes and they're capitalist countries with a different, but really cool culture. Culture is not something you can impose or can buy, it take centuries to build up.

weak and predictable

>Yang will never be the nominee
I know.
>They wont let him
True. They will rig the system to exclude him, which will lead to another Trump victory.
>he doesn't have the balls to be man enough to make the people rally around him
I disagree. He's been successful in his endeavors, and he is giving it his all. it just won't be enough to overcome the DNC. No outsider could.
>Hes too wimpy, not aggressive enough
nah
>will be destroyed in the primary
yeah
>Hes like the Jeb! bush of the democrats except with zero name recognition.
Jeb had nothing going for him. His name was a negative, and his policies were garbage. Yang is smart, successful, and has clear policies that could work, if given a chance. He could get momentum in every single swing state, if the DNC doesn't destroy him first. He's really the only Dem candidate that isn't damaged goods at this point, and therefore the only one that could beat Trump.

trumps win is in the bag

nice reply but you used the e word

The entire middle 75% of voters would vote for an Asian guy, especially since he's respectable and a moderate. The far right might not vote for an Asian, and the far left won't want a man.

>Why do you think Trump won?
Because he had massive support lol.

Get a job faggot.

Schizophrenia: The thread

The reason why I say yang is too wimpy is that the only way he could break the media/DNC barrier is by being a donald trump like character. If he stuck it to the DNC saying they are corrupt, dont want change, etc and spoke the truth then people would rise up rally behind him and force the DNC to accept him as the nominee.

>Joe biden
Trump will destroy Uncle Joe... it won't even be funny. I'll kinda feel sorry for him if he wins the primary.

this argument is getting really fucking annoying.
different countries political structures look completely different than our own. e.g. in communism, free health care and education. stop comparing apples to oranges and then wondering why everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot.

Is that a confession ?

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No one gives a fuck about hillary and especially about bernie. If we're lucky bernie will die the closer we get to voting.

Yup hes going to dominate him. I believe the only way the democrats can win 2020 is by cheating. They will be trying hard to cheat in 2020, even harder than in 2016. They've had years to prepare for it too. I believe we will see rampant voter fraud in this election.

You just pushing my point tbh. Have you ever heard of Bugatti? Do you know where Cadillac is? The only things that works (badly) are gouvernement empowered shits, it has ruined everything because it has all the power and all the money. Or you suck them dick or you don't exist, simple as that.

Well you know. I like living.. and voting for sellout sanders will hurt my chances of continuing to live so..

People like you are really fucking annoying. If you dont think bernie sanders is a communist sympathizer you are ignorant. Theres video of him praising the soviet union and supporting bread lines. He honeymooned in the USSR. Hes never had a real job in his life.

gabbard 2020

FACTS or it’s fake news

The United States' Social Security System is fucking garbage and thats a pretty good example of Socialism failing

>pic is doctored to make Bernie look even more autistic than he actually is.

bernie looks autistic no matter what angle or filter you use..

look it up retard im not gonna google shit for you. Try to find the actual video and not something from vox or slate you fucking commie piece of shit.

no just how life works?
you want to play?

too late my playtime ended years ago now its a hard slog

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Not as annoying than people who don't know history or forget about it. Yeah it can be worse, ask the Russians. The only place where it works is the north of Europe, and it's very soft AND people are not educated at all like in any other western countries. I bet your degreed dumb ass would never accept a blue collar making more than you do, they do.

What an argument you sir are a master debaterU Russians sure know how to attack just ask Afghanistan

VOTE KAMALA HARRIS 2020
>LEGAL WEED!

>FREE WELFARE!

>FOODSTAMPS!!!!!!

>WEED STAMPS FOR ALL LIBERALS
(trumpers dont get any)

socialist weed is always best

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>Cadillac
>Bugatti

>cars no one drives

thats why you Need welfare and HealthCare, wich is Pretty good in france

Jesus look at that fucking right arm

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By good you mean garbage right?

This how it actually works here. In green what a boss paid, in red what employee got for that amount. Welfare and HealthCare are good yes, for lazy asses, drug dealers (legal or not) and all kinds of gouvernement members and contractors. Add to that 150 to 200 a month for local taxes and 20% VAT on almost everything. The British had to avoid lead for less than that. We have 9% unemployment, and pretty much everything is falling appart. Go for it kid, shoot yourself in the foot, you'll like it bro with "free" healthCare.

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This

You mean the way he got crumpled up and tossed away by his own party then crawled back to Clinton like a bitch to avoid being executed at random in a public place? Sure. He's gonna do great.

In fairness most memes that seem to portray a leftist position are right wing strawpeeps

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He'll be dead by 2024, so i doubt it.

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Libs don't care. Voting is now just about supporting ideology.
Case in point: Donald Trump.

SO much this

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I feel it

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>Wut is social democracy

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>Are you actually against trying to make everyone more equal and life more fair?

These things are diametrically opposed.
>make everyone more equal
>make life more fair

If someone works harder than someone else, then they deserve more rewards. Giving them both the same reward for unequal work is not fair.

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I have no idea what you're trying to say.

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TBH I am a conservative white christian male, and I am wondering if there is really any arguments other than MuH CoMmUnIsM DoEsN't WoRk?

Americans want to walk their dog not eat them.

>Donald Trump will be the next president.

He's already the president...

We're arguing about who will be president after him.

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Don't worry about it. 2020 will be over before you know it. Just accept it, ya picked a loser.

Most of them are based in suppositions about human nature. Maybe they are true maybe they aren't

What more do you need?

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>loser
You mean the guy who won?

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>welfare
>socialism
Choose one

>scandanavia
>socialism
Choose one. They say it themselves: they are capitalist economies with strong social safety nets. Not socialists.

Probably at least one time Bernie has ever advocated for Communism for starters...
But better yet, maybe some counter points to his popular stances? I mean... were getting killed in real debates here. If bernie is nominated Im pretty sure trump will literally resign just so he doesn't have to stand there and get roasted by bernie.

>I bet your degreed dumb ass would never accept a blue collar making more than you do
I'm not user, but many blue collar workers make far more than the average degreed white collar workers. Oil rig workers, for instance.

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So hypothetically
Me a cement worker, who will have bad joints and physical pains the rest of my house in a 200,000 dollar home in the ghetto 5 hours away from work,destroying my 1990’s truck for the job and have to replace part or the truck entirely. with bad health insurance do to price and frequency of visitation, is doing less than me the banker living in a 600,000 home doing math behind a bullet proof glass sitting all day only seeing my great covered insurance for all unnecessary pain killers because my legs hurt from sitting on a chair at work and in my Mercedes 2000-2010’s?

No one knows what these words even mean any more.

Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative, Socialist, Capitalist

None of is means a fucking thing, because there are so many retards who want to fling shit without knowing the basics of the conversation.

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You literally compare someone who gives his life away to live on a rig in dangerous conditions to a banker?

Remember, you kike-loving commies,

>FEEL THE BERN
of
>NO REFUNDS.

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So you blame lack of background checks or a system of checks that shows u contributed for the free health care as to why the whole thing is flawed?

I know I'm well connected with pipeliners in the US, but they work twice as much. Which is impossible in my socialist country, cause you're not allowed to work over 48h a week because you're supposed to share you work. All they find to try to lower unemployment, needless to they that didn't work, you just can't make decent money anymore as a blue collar.

>roasted by bernie.
Trump got where he is by roasting everyone in his way.
Bernie got cucked by two fat niggers who rushed the stage.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Democrats will never let Bernie run in the first place. He'll get fucked by the DNC again just like he did in 2016.

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>roasting everyone in his way.
You mean the garbage GOP candidates and Hillary?
He literally won the special olympics.

At least they make money, in my country you take the risk and have to cut your wage 56% to pay for other people's retirement and education but socialism is fair right?

"they didnt do it right" LOL thats EXACTLY how it will ALWAYS end up USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN.

And when you retire or get hurt on the job? U are covered, here your credit score drops and u bless ur family dry or die in a ditch

My point exactly. People should need to take a fucking econ 101 and general civics class to graduate high school. Maybe then we wouldn't have a bunch of ignorant retards being polarized by clickbait "articles", who don't understand the very basic terminology being used.

Cases in point: Scandinavian countries are capitalist, welfare isn't socialism, public goods aren't commodities, Bernie isn't a socialist (even though he claims to be, he's just retarded), AOC is an actual socialist, Trump is a populist (inexperienced) politician with generally moderate policy (and retarded inflammatory rhetoric), capitalism and socialism are mutually exclusive, liberal and conservative beliefs are not mutually exclusive (though they rarely overlap since they are strongly caused by personality types), the far left and far right are more like each other than the moderate middle.

As far as income, yes? That's all I was addressing.

You can be trained as an oil rig worker quickly, and make six figures as a result. Banking takes a lot more time to learn, and only those that do it "well" make six figures.

Key words well connected , it’s a job you either get recommend for or have a degree.

Wow. I agree with all of that 100%

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There is not such a thing as free shit, or health care. If you implement it do it right, people are just being childish with it here. Be really careful, empowering the gouvernement is really dangerous, it'll make you his bitch sooner than you think, that's my point. 56% + cut on a wage for "free" shit.

You ever applied for a rigger job, if you don’t have 5-10 years experience or a recommendation u don’t get in. If it was so easy everyone would go to rigzone.com and blow up the applications. Same shit they fed us in diesel tech school

I'll sacrifice 56% of your salary so I can sit at home and jerk it to hentai all day. It's a difficult sacrifice, but one I'm willing to make.

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You start as a helper at $15h or less and you work your ass off 60h/week to by a rig. That's how you get into that business.

You only give power to the government when they take your guns, look At Britain. They can’t do shit unless they wanna resort to Roman tactics with spears they are fucked against a line of guns. The government is supposed to work for the good of the people but now they treat them selfves like celebrities. It a government worked on its toes knowing any wrong move would cause a riot with guns they would work there ass of it not have anyone volenteer for the job. Hell you can’t even talk about rioting with out having feds open a case on you

I know plenty of blue collar workers that make as much as me, considering a per-hour average. I do web development, and make a bit over $100k. I have multiple friends in HVAC (10+ years on the job or owners), a couple friends in oil (one on a rig, the other in pipes), one in industrial electric manufacturing, one that started off cleaning pools but now owns/runs his own business cleaning pools. They all make roughly the same. They just had to work their way up, while I paid for college and started off at higher pay.

Your country sounds like shit, limiting hours to share work. Let the market decide, allow competition, and everyone does better.

Your the problem like I said if there was a simple check,” oh yeah he’s employed, over 60, disabled, or a vet give him care and food” compared to “ I see you have a Cadillac on 20 inch rims and no taxes paid ever sure come on in

Exactly how it works. If I wouldn't work I'd nearly have the same with the welfare system. If I'd grow some weed I'd have more money than I actually have and could jerk off all day. Needless to say it's a fair amount of the 9% unemployed, they are lots of unfilled jobs in construction and industry but the gap's too small.

They only hire during retirement season( when all the old faithfuls hit the retirement age ever 6-8 years) I scout for the jobs all the time and even then it’s not helped it aprentice technician and for ever apprentice they hire there’s a guy on the rig” hay Joey I know your 18 and outa school so I’ll recommend you to get on the rig with me” “ thanks uncle buck do Ridley “ or your a vet

No one said it's easy to get a high-paid blue collar job. But it's the same in white collar.

Look at lawyers: if you aren't chosen for a partnership path, while you're still in school, you will start off at $30k and max out at $50-60k salary. And owe on your student loans until you retire.

STEM fields all pay pretty well, but you have to be actually smart. 85% of the population is simply not capable of doing those jobs on a competitive level, so they will either never get those jobs, or they will never move up the ranks and make decent money doing it.

And we're all going to be fucked in the next 10 years, because all the easy jobs will be automated. No more retail, no more call centers, no more truck driving. So that's a huge portion of our job market just gone. And these people will never be able to compete in other more skilled areas.

I agree, but look at my pay bill. When you give him 56% of you wage to do whatever the fuck they want it empowers it as well. Guns where banned at the french revolution (which occurred because they where armed) and now we are basically cucked. Yellow vests? Lets snatch some eyes they'll chill tf up.

THIs is a fabricated lie

That's a really long sentence.

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You are a fabricated lie.

Well hell we spend over half of the taxes here on military, if we cut a quarter of that we could remove the deficit, another quarter would fund social. But noooooo I need to fuel this ship to pass by Taiwan 3 times a month to piss off China, that’s what tax payers pay for