What's the most retarded thing the left has ever done?
What's the most retarded thing the left has ever done?
Making compromises with the right.
/thread
exactly
sabotage a party primary against an old socialist, store the emails with proof on an unsecured server, get hacked by russians who leak those emails, and then lose the presidency to a cheeto
thinking taking away rights gives us more freedom
This.
Tell me about this.
>final vote tally has 2.5 million more votes for Hillary
>BUT MUH SABOTAGE AND RIGGING
Fuck, are Berners really still that fucking stupid?
YOU GOT PLAYED BY RUSSIAN FAKE NEWS.
this.
then the berniebros stayed home in the general election and hilldawg lost rustbelt states by razor thin margins
>getting mad at people who mostly agree with you
hillary lost because people don't trust her. in a normal primary that would've been the end of it.
abandon core civil rights because they interfered with the new belief that men white are evil, and things like due process and free speech inhibit freely punishing their hate.
their abandonment of white men and civil rights is going to keep costing elections for decades to come until whites are a small minority.
>men white
>punishing their hate
Hi Ivan!
Time to stop posting and really hit those basic English books again.
>Bernie wasn't even known as a candidate before a third of the primaries were already over
>hilarious primary restrictions, such as NY's requirement to register as a Democrat a year before the primary in order to vote as one
>Hillary was so scared of this guy that was apparently so easy to beat, she rigged the primaries against him anyway
My favorite was when DWS got caught rigging it (and shunting all donations, even for state candidates, to Hillary's campaign) she had to resign, and immediately was hired by the Hillary campaign.
And, of course, DWS only became head of the DNC so she could do the rigging when the old head resigned. That old DNC chief was Tim fucking Kaine.
Hillary was the most corrupt old bag and literally anyone else would've beaten Trump. But it was her turn.
>RUSSIAN FAKE NEWS
lol, say hi to David Brock for me
>the left is done for
>they'll just keep losing elections
>they're anti-free speech
>leftists hate white men
>orange man best president ever
>muh rigged primaries
-bernie sanders
-tranny bullshit
Here's the thing you fringe retards need to understand.
The left is against the nazis in the right's ranks, not all right wingers.
They are against toxic masculinity and obsolete machismo, not "all men".
They are against retarded racist white people, not all white people.
They are against pisspoorly trained, racist killer cops, not all police.
You need to stop trying to expand scopes to fit your narratives. It makes you look retarded.
pretty shitty excuse for a “revolution” if debbie wasserman schultz can stop it in its tracks
>toxic masculinity and obsolete machismo
oh god lol, please go back to whatever tranny discord you hang out on
You seem salty. Drank too much semen again?
Pretty shitty campaign if it could spent 1.3 billion dollars, which was more than Obama and Romney's 2012 campaigns put together, and lose to a guy who was going through a campaign-ending scandal every week and spending a quarter as much
Maybe screwing Bernie was not a good idea
Obvious Trumptard is obvious
you seem to have me confused with someone else. i'm far left myself, just not anti-civil rights, and very upset about the direction of my side of the political spectrum.
i would never vote for a republican. i have a few important disagreements with my own party, but the right is a fucking menace to freedom. they're by a wide margin more of a civil rights problem, not to mention i disagree with their foreign policy, economic policy, religious issues, regulatory issues, etc. i only agree with them on gun rights and sex crime due process.
well this isn't particularly accurate.
-I don't care if they're against some or all right wingers; I'm personally against all right wingers anyway, but won't begrudge someone who listens to their shit.
-My objection is to their stated desire to eliminate due process where a man, ANY man, is accused of sexual wrongdoing by any female. They are against anything other than 'believe the victim' as a policy, at least the faction in control of the party and who the 2020 nominees are lartgely pandering to.
-They support policies that harm white people it general, by trying to drag them down, instead of boosting minorities up--- affirmative action is discriminatory, and the gap is properly addressed by fixing why the available pool is skewed to begin with. But there's zero tolerance towards that approach, because it involves factors that can't be 100% blame on racism.
-I'm far more anti-police than even the sjws, so this doesn't matter either.
You look fucking retarded for thinking everyone who criticizes civil rights issues on the left is someone from the right.
That's what we're referring too right here. It's not even that this behavior needs to be cut out. However it's clearly effecting the population on a macro level. I hear people IRL saying shit like this. What's wrong with just disagreeing? There's problems psychologically with these types of folks who cannot put in to words their disagreements but always make sure to toss in a few homophobic remarks.
The fact that you had to elaborate clearly paints this guys picture better. You're part of a minority.
Lame, predictable and stupid.
So if you aren't a football watching, beefeater lumberjack you're a tranny? Fuck you're a goddamned idiot, kid. This is why Gillette and Terry Crews tried to call you out.
There are problems psychologically with types of folks who get asspained at others' colorful language.
And it looks increasingly like everyone's tired of putting up with your taboo words and thoughts.
>So if you aren't a football watching, beefeater lumberjack you're a tranny?
Nope, but it sounds like you are ;^)
Found the USA
This one for sure
Whether I'm in the minority on the left depends on the poll and issue. But if I am, that's fine too, because I'm right.
Get outta this thread leftist faggot, I wanted funny stories of stupid leftists. Not some opinion of some left neckbeard screaming bullshit into the void.
no one trusts Donald, and it didn't affect him any
You would be wrong. Actually, VERY wrong.
Most people conveniently overlook the fact that Jim Jones was a liberal.
Sonic says go fuck yourself you subhuman fringe maggot.
>Actually, VERY wrong.
Oh, you're VERY not a tranny
That's good to hear, I suppose -- better to be wrong than seriously mentally ill. But if you think "toxic masculinity" is a thing, other than "being an asshole" -- you're in for a sad existence.
>fringe
Where exactly do you live?
No leftist has ever attempted to subvert due process on sexual assault allegations.
Democrats are not anti-white men, and the fact that you think so says a lot about you.
Maybe you're not right wing. Maybe you're the same brand of leftist that TJ Kirk is; in which case, you still mischaracterize the left as hating white men because ???
Oh, thats right, some teen on tumblr made an anti-white men post so that must be what left wingers by qnd large think
> Unoriginal and unfunny
Best you got faggot.
Fpbp
>affirmative action is discriminatory
Nope, take it back, you're not a leftist like TJ Kirk. You're just a complete retard
Haha classic. Assuming you're right.
Oh, look. /pol/ is leaking again.
Affirmative action is by definition discrimination. How delusional do you have to be to deny that?
*Former* Senator Al Franken would like a word with you.
The left literally teaches that all whites are racist and must repent, literally aping Catholic doctrine arounx Original Sin
Bullshit they haven't. See the entire campus Title IX issue, and it's definitely bleeding into the real courts too. See the recall of the judge in the Brock Turner case, the conflicts of interest and admissibility decisions in the Cosby case, and many others.
Affirmative action is discriminatory to whites (and Asians, even moreso).
...are you actually interested in why i hold this opinion or is that I'm wrong just some foregone conclusion?.
"If you're this color, you need to score a 1000 to get in. If you're this other color, you only need 800."
That's discrimination, even if you think it's right. And personally I think whether the colors are white and black or black and white, it's wrong to judge by skin color.
>me slur group is ok
>you slur group is bad
kek
/thread
>against nazis in the right's ranks
Everyone who don't agree with their views is considered a nazi
>against (((toxic masculinity))) and obsolete machismo
"I like traditional family and I don't want my son to play with Barbies" "YOU'RE A TOXIC HOMOPHOBIC MAN!!1!
>against retarded white racist people
"I'm against ILLEGAL immigration" " you are racist!!1! You nazi! Let's punch the nazi!!1!
>against pisspoorly trained, racist killer cops, not all police
Niggers kills each other everyday, a cop kills one in self defence "we wuz slavez and sheeeeit" "muh black lives matter"
You need to stop trying to restrict scopes to fit your narratives. It makes you look retarded.
Could all leftists faggots make a thread themselves and have their micro dick circle jerk there? Thank u
I don't recall Al Franken going to jail without due process. Source?
No, affirmative action is addressing discriminatory practices. This is not a debate, despite what you might think. This is a settled subject, as far as civil rights goes. Trying to walk the subject back is the antithesis of civil rights, which you allegedly care so deeply for.
Hahahahahaha that second paragraph. Is this fucking story hour?
>mentally ill
Trump supporters are far more mentally ill than anything the left has. Oh, and it's PATHETIC beyond words for Incel trash to make fun of the sexuality of consenting adults expressing themselves how they see fit. Stop obsessing over other people's genitals and sex lives already.
Toxic masculinity is very much "a thing." Why do you think the profile for average Trump supporters is insecure males and gamma incels? I've seen toxic masculinity before several times in my life. We're just finally talking about it for once in public.
>sad existence
LOL, I'm highly educated and working in a stable career I thoroughly enjoy. My existence is the absolute pinnacle of what every /pol/lack wannabe NEET wishes he could be.
Affirmative action is addressing discriminatory practices by discriminating in the opposite direction.
That's not a debate either. And it's not settled, the case out of Harvard now might redefine it legally again or ban it outright.
You don't get how affirmative action actually works do you? Nobody besides you is really arguing it's not discriminatory, they're arguing it's justified because non-whites were discriminated against in the past, so it's just balancing the scales, in the way two wrongs apparently now make a right
>Bullshit they haven't. See the entire campus Title IX issue, and it's definitely bleeding into the real courts too. See the recall of the judge in the Brock Turner case, the conflicts of interest and admissibility decisions in the Cosby case, and many others.
You actually think Title IX subverts due process. Are you retarded?
>Affirmative action is discriminatory to whites (and Asians, even moreso).
Yeah, no it's not
>...are you actually interested in why i hold this opinion or is that I'm wrong just some foregone conclusion?
I've likely argued with you on this same subject. I'm not curious why you think something demonstrably false the same way I don't ask antivaxxers why they don't like vaccines -- because someone else told you to believe it, and you're parroting the line. Nothing new under the sun in this conversation, it's been had millions of times long before you were even in your daddy's nutsack.
>"If you're this color, you need to score a 1000 to get in. If you're this other color, you only need 800." That's discrimination, even if you think it's right. And personally I think whether the colors are white and black or black and white, it's wrong to judge by skin color.
Point out a policy which specifically states "if you're ____ color, you need a score higher than ____ color." Because that's not how affirmative action works; though I'm sure you'll cite some random incident from a single institution.
>>My existence is the absolute pinnacle of what every /pol/lack wannabe NEET wishes he could be.
then you should be in /pol/. you don't impress us here. we want to see shemales and rekt threads. this gay ass pretend to be adult political crap is lame. it's a waste of time and usually the hobby of people who have no life and it makes them feel empowered. i'd rather stick something in my ass.
>No, affirmative action is addressing discriminatory practices.
How does one "address discriminatory practices?"
>This is not a debate, despite what you might think.
Ah, there's the Bubble Leftist distilled to its purest essence
Why are you trying to shill your lunatic religion on Yea Forums then?
>Everyone who don't agree with their views is considered a nazi
False. But keep parroting that line, it does wonders for our case that you're all nuts.
>((()))
Oh noez, mayn, not TEH JOOZ! Anyfings but teh JOOZ!
Kill yourself.
>projecting as fuck
See #1.
When gangsters kill each other, it's still crime. When a cop murders and unarmed civilian and gets to go on vacation while a handpicked jury of racist cop fellators declares justified, it's despicable and hurts the reputations and safety of all the good, proper, dutiful cops out there, not to mention it destroys the community's confidence in the Police Department as a whole.
What religion would that be again?
Our Lady, Sophia, Patron Saint of Education and Common Sense?
If you've been watching the Harvard case, you'd of noticed that the most recent news is that judges are skeptical of the claims being made.
Sorry you bought a lie, but affirmative action isn't discriminatory. In rare instances where an institution puts forth a discriminatory policy, it goes down in scandal.
Where did he say anything about hooknose?
You want a debate? Provide evidence affirmative action is discriminatory. Until then, toodles Trumpstain.
You really don't know what it means when these retards put words or names in triple parentheses?
Russia gay
In the USA you mean?
Assassinated JFK.
That's just your delusional leftist utopia kiddo, he's not anti-semitic.
>Yeah, no it's not
Asians are suing the Department of Education because racial quotas in universities are leaving them vastly underrepresented as students. That is pure discrimination.
>You actually think Title IX subverts due process. Are you retarded?
When extrajudicial processes can be convened whose decisions have force of law and there's no presumption of innocence.... that subverts due process.
>point out...
pic related
compelling evidence there bud, someone should sponsor you for Mens..i mean PEOPLEsa.
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anyhow, wrapping up my last day of work. have a bucks left in my account, going to stop on my home grab a pint of the best whiskey that is less than the $15 i have left to my name, wipe my laptop, nas, phone, delete social media, etc. clean my place, get dressed up, leave my DD214's on the coffee table put on my tags for the last time, put on one of my favorite episode of futurama as i enjoy my last meal, have a few laughs - then go out in the snow with my 1911 and end it. part of me hopes reincarnation is a thing, but sure its not. definitely had a good run. Stay good Yea Forums & /pol/ !
Last internet words: *Fucking Jews*
>user 1984 - 2019
Nice copypasta.
Anyone ever tell you, you throw like a nazi?
>False. But keep parroting that line, it does wonders for our case that you're all nuts
Hey take a look at one of your kind handling different political views in a civil way. But we are all nuts of course.
youtu.be
You do realize that Nazis were democratic socialists right? The LEFT is the party trying to undermine freedom you dumb cunt. Here's my proof:
1. Gun Control
2. Infringement of First Amendment because "muh feelings were hurt and he didn't use my pronoun"
3. Increasingly expanding government oversight and consolidation of services to State-run programs (less choices and competition= less freedom fundamentally)
4. Increasing marginalization of whites or "reverse racism" if you care to call it that (you can't be against racism and also have programs that cater only to minorities)
5. Forcing their beliefs on people who have opposing views, but preaching that it's the Right who isn't open minded...
6. Making things "free" (read: government funded) actually makes citizens wage slaves on a much higher scale to support the taxation that is required to fund programs.
7. Forcing immigration agenda on the general population without realizing that it places a TREMENDOUS burden on the economy.
Don't get me wrong, the Right has terrible views on climate change, blah blah blah, and they only care about the wealthy. But here's the secret... The left only cares about the wealthy too, they just lie to you about it. They specifically cater to your inner guilt about people less fortunate than you, while trying to gain and consolidate power for themselves (just like Hitler did). The difference is, the Right doesn't try so hard to hide the fact that they are corrupt.
That you don't understand that you're a religious fanatic is the saddest bit of all
>Provide evidence affirmative action is discriminatory
Easy. Simply replace the names of the races with random letters.
You want more of Group X in a student body than there is currently, which, given that the total number of students is fixed, requires action to decrease the number of Group Y (and likely Group Z) to lower than it would be if things were left alone.
This is discrimination in favor of Group X against Group Y and Z. And that's affirmative action.
Good God, only the most delusional of leftists would try to argue that AA is not discrimination. The not-batshit-crazy line is that such discrimination is needed, to overcome the systemic effects of past discrimination.
Of course, we're entering the 50th year of it, which is interesting
Yes. And I am proud of that fact
Kill the judge then yourself. It will make future judges think twice about being unfair.
>You do realize that Nazis were democratic socialists
The reply before original statement is fucked bro.
Are you trolling softly or are you seriously trying to claim that wanting an education is a religion?
And if Hitler did it right the first time we'd be part of that beautiful machine and not in this shit show. Sig heil mother fuckers
Now reading this shit like a fucked manga.
>Asians are suing the Department of Education because racial quotas in universities are leaving them vastly underrepresented as students. That is pure discrimination.
Asians that are part of an anti-affirmative action group are suing Harvard and losing.
>When extrajudicial processes can be convened whose decisions have force of law and there's no presumption of innocence.... that subverts due process.
Yeah, that's not what's happening. Just like how you conveniently leave out information on a
>pic related
Your picture does not show students rejected for having lower scores based on race. It shows that some races tend to have lower scores on the MCAT/Their GPA than others. This is not evidence of a discrimination policy.
I would say it's funny to use a left wing cartoon to back your assertions but you might not understand.
I just wish more people would study history. Leftists really do genuinely think they're part of some brand new wave -- the fact is, every single one of their ideas has shown up before, and it's always at the end stage of a civilization.
Among the last records surviving from Babylon are expressions of outrage that women were being admitted into the professions, and homosexuality tolerated. And then the Assyrians came.
Same with Rome, presumably other civilizations as well. As cool as they sound, they're just the symptoms of end-stage civilization, after which said decadent civilization is inevitably, INEVITABLY, annihilated and replaced by a young, brutally oppressive traditional culture.
You guys are nothing new, and the more you get your way, the more you hasten the arrival of your worst cultural nightmare as your new rulers.
You obviously don't know anything about history or politics if you don't know this as a fact. Hitler was a textbook socialist with a racist agenda.
>It shows that some races tend to have lower scores on the MCAT/Their GPA than others. This is not evidence of a discrimination policy.
When only 7.7% of Group A, 9.4% of Group B, and 65.8% of Group C with the same aptitude testing and GPA are admitted to med school, it is pretty obvious that discrimination in favor of Group C is happening.
To deny that is seriously, seriously crazy, especially since everyone but your insane self openly admits that in the interests of promoting ethnic diversity on campus, it's happening.
>Hitler was a textbook socialist with a racist agenda.
Would someone explain to me who in the 1930s did not have a racist agenda? Here in the enlightened democratic United States, blacks were getting lynched for trying to vote.
This. Gun control, socialization of programs, marginalization of large groups of a population, fanatic/unquestioning following of an ideal... all precede a totalitarian rule that ends in collapse.
history can't be applied to the world today. everything is different. just because a few things are the same, and you claim they mean the end of civilization, one thing to consider is that there was no global economy and trade at all back then.
as much as i hate women, faggots and minorities, this world needs them all and will keep them for the sake of money. history is really obsolete. just because it seems to repeat itself doesn't mean that those actions will destroy it the same way now.
god you're a fucking idiot.
>Easy. Simply replace the names of the races with random letters.
>You want more of Group X in a student body than there is currently, which, given that the total number of students is fixed, requires action to decrease the number of Group Y (and likely Group Z) to lower than it would be if things were left alone.
Premise 1: only a certain number of students can be accepted into a college
Premise 2: in order to receive more students of a disenfranchised race, less students of the other race must be accepted
>This is discrimination in favor of Group X against Group Y and Z. And that's affirmative action.
Conclusion: discriminatory action
I have argued with you before. Your premise is unsound. It is unsound because it assumes that the seats will naturally go to white people if unfilled, and thus white people are being discriminated against if those seats are filled (intentionally) with black students.
However, this ignores the fact that we have no idea what, demographically speaking, the number of applicants is year to year. Your logic is incomplete because of your premises.
>Good God, only the most delusional of leftists would try to argue that AA is not discrimination. The not-batshit-crazy line is that such discrimination is needed, to overcome the systemic effects of past discrimination.
>Of course, we're entering the 50th year of it, which is interesting
Actually, all it takes is logic 101 to realize your premise does not support your conclusion.
sat by and let the DNC put hillary fuckin clinton, the most hated political figure since nixon, out there as their candidate in a national election. they deserved the loss after that.
also, allowing trump, pence, and mcconnel to live and not taking them out on week 2. If tables were turned and it were dems that wred responsible for this level of corrupt tradh in power, republicans would be spraying DC with those stockpiles of ammunition. and yet the left has not one even mad enough to try it among them. this is why you lose, dems. because you dont care enough.
>Utilitarianism and Egalitarianism are harbingers of the end of civilization
Funny. I thought becoming a soulless, corporatist, oligarchy that even tries to support corporate citizenship over getting healthcare to its citizens was.
>everything is different.
If you'd read some history, you'd find out that nothing's different. People have been the same for thousands of years. They do things today for exactly the same reasons they did in Egypt.
>there was no global economy and trade at all back then.
There was trade all over the "globe" (the extent of human civilization) back then. And it was being done for the same old reason -- profit.
>god you're a fucking idiot.
You literally just tried to argue the same thing that's happened a dozen times before isn't going to happen this time because trade.
A little to vague to answer. What exactly are you claiming as your evidence of those things?
All that is means is that black students tend to have lower MCAT scores. All of those scores are in an acceptable range. If a college only accepted black students at that low score, your argument would be based on a valid premise.
The premise is invalid because your claim is that some races have to score higher than others to be accepted. Yet asians, whites hispanics and blacks are all represented in the lower ranges, which means that you can and are accepted at that score range regardless of your race.
>Here in the enlightened democratic United States, blacks were getting lynched for trying to vote.
We need to go back.
NAZIS. WERE. AUTHORITARIAN. FASCISTS. YOU RETARD.
They called themselves socialists to make people think they weren't as destructive and bad as they were before it was too late to do anything about them. Before Hitler became a chancellor, he courted and used a violent, belligerent group of hateful, racist, anti-society assholes not too dissimilar to the Alt-Right. They became the first Nazis.
No, you're a fucking idiot. Just because this isn't the 1400's doesn't mean it won't repeat itself. It just means that the failure will be represented in a different manner. As an example, nobody is going to conquer the US as it's basic civilization crumbles. Instead, the economy will simply collapse, followed by mass starvation, homelessness, and unemployment. Which will then be EXACERBATED by the fact that we have a global economy now. If the US falls apart, so does the entire planet, not just a region on a continent.
The BEST news though, is that the US won't ever get there. If things continue they way they are heading, there will be a second civil war. It will be Right vs Left, and the Left WILL lose. The Republicans own all of the firearms, and the military is widely filled with Right-leaning personnel. The country's economy will slip, but will emerge stronger and more unified than ever before
It should say: "conclusion: affirmative action is discriminatory"
>Premise 1: only a certain number of students can be accepted into a college
This is a fact. Colleges are real places that have physical dimensions, and a certain number of staff. This is why people get turned down.
>Premise 2: in order to receive more students of a disenfranchised race, less students of the other race must be accepted
This is logic, because the seats are limited. There can only be so many students per institution per year.
>However, this ignores the fact that we have no idea what, demographically speaking, the number of applicants is year to year
We of course do. Must I provide that as well? Put down the bong. An Asian student applying to an American medical school with an MCAT of 24-26 and a GPA of 3.2-3.39 has a 7.7% chance of being accepted. A black student with the same lamentable grades has a 65.% chance. This is random chance to you?
Again, you are the first human being I've ever encountered who denies this is what Affirmative Action is. The debate is supposed to be whether such discrimination is WARRANTED. How high are you?
Read or watch the fucking news. Their agenda is blasted out in black and white. Also, I live in San Diego, CA. The most liberal state in the union, right in the middle of the immigration debate that the rest of the country seems to think they understand. My favorite thing is hearing a senator from Connecticut that lives in a primarily white neighborhood, behind gates with guards, thinks they know the answer for immigration.
>All of those scores are in an acceptable range.
Well, it's 7% acceptable if you're Asian, and 9% acceptable if you're white. To even have a 50-50 chance of being accepted as an Asian student, you must have better than between an MCAT of 30-32 (perfect), and a GPA in the 3.5-3.6 range.
Everyone is quick to note how the Nazi party came into being and what their core beliefs were, but they forget about Hitler's SOCIOECONOMIC POLICIES. HIS SOCIALIST ECONOMIC POLICIES. Fuck the left really is dumb... Forget his temperament towards Jews, blacks, gays and/or the disabled. Look at his policies for government controlled EVERYTHING. God you all are stupid fucks.
Fuck off cunt, trying to control a fucking thread. Go die subhuman redneck scum.
Nah cunt, we're here and you literally cannot get rid of us, so fuck off and die.
Premise 1: there is a high acceptance rate of blacks with a low MCAT score
Premise 2: there is a low acceptance rate of asians with a similar MCAT score
Conclusion: therefore, affrimative action is discriminating based on race
An argument is only logical if the conclusion is supported by the premises. Premises 1 and 2 say nothing about the average score of asian americans versus Black Americans. Asian americans have greater test scores in general. What the acceptance rate image shows is that blacks tend to score lower on the test than average. This is consistent with studies which show that black populations in the US tend to score lower on tests, in general. This is not evidence of discrimination, this is evidence of test score differences. Because you are leaving out a pertinent piece of information, the conclusion fits the premises.
Need I remind you your original assertion was that asians had to get a higher score than blacks did. Yet asians are still represented on the lower end of the test score ranges.
>Well, it's 7% acceptable if you're Asian, and 9% acceptable if you're white. To even have a 50-50 chance of being accepted as an Asian student, you must have better than between an MCAT of 30-32 (perfect), and a GPA in the 3.5-3.6 range.
You have to have a GPA just above the 2009 Asian average to be accepted as a student? Wow, super discriminatory to demand someone have a higher-than-average GPA
Whoo!...think was him!?
>can't do math
Seriously, how high are you?
MCAT and GPA are not like hair color or height, with some natural variation. They are (academically) the criteria by which you are either accepted or rejected by med school. It's not a lottery where everyone submits their applications and then the Dean of Medicine pulls 100 names out of a hat.
An Asian student in 2013, applying to med school with a perfect MCAT score and a 3.6-3.79 GPA, actually had a WORSE chance of being accepted than a black student with a 24-26 MCAT and GPA 3.2-3.39. Even though his or her grades were vastly better. At the same GPA? He's got no chance.
This is because preferential admission is given to non-white, non-Asian students, which EVERYONE BUT YOU has acknowledged for decades. The question for non-insane people is whether or not this system of discrimination is just.
>literally can't do math
You have to have a GPA just above the 2009 Asian average to have a 7 percent chance of being accepted. Those same grades give you a 65% chance of acceptance with an African ethnic background.
Actually, that chart there demonstrates that there is discrimination. Were the playing field level and academic achievement the only criteria for acceptance, Asian students would be vastly overrepresented in universities, because their grades are better.
Yea Forums was never good, but it's really gone downhill since /pol/ let you retards loose. Left wing, right wing - none of you faggots should be allowed to reproduce.
Right, because the answer to all our problems is a Retard Wall that won't even address 20% of illegal immigration and will cost 40 billion for starters and a billion annual upkeep.
/thread
>controlling everything
That's called authoritarianism, you fucking imbecile.
i love how this immediately devolved into a shitstorm. ig no one knows/cares about operation paperclip, OP. but yeah you guys are woke, fucking rejects.
Think communism is a valid system
To be honest the political scale makes a lot more sense if the axis is Authoritarianism Liberty
You'd put Communism on the end of one scale and Anarchism on the other end, and every government would fall in pretty easily along the line.
Right now we've got this bizarre twisted horseshoe where Communism is ultra-left wing and Nazism is ultra-right wing, although they were basically identical except for Nazis being racist and letting you own stuff
Letting the right take power
>MCAT and GPA are not like hair color or height, with some natural variation. They are (academically) the criteria by which you are either accepted or rejected by med school.
Different races have different average academic scores. See last image.
>An Asian student in 2013, applying to med school with a perfect MCAT score and a 3.6-3.79 GPA, actually had a WORSE chance of being accepted than a black student with a 24-26 MCAT and GPA 3.2-3.39.
Do you know how many asian students go to college? Here's a screencap of harvard's last admissions based on race. Notice 15% are black? Do you notice in my last image, a gpa of 3.29 was average for an asian 10 FUCKING YEARS AGO. If you did q study today, that average would be higher.
The average black student? 2.69.
2.69 to 3.2-3.39 is +0.6 higher than average for a black student.
3.29 to 3.6-3.79 is +0.6 higher than average for an asian student
The criteria is equal. Notice asians still get accepted more?
True, I miss when the only jobs were at McDonald's and Baltimore was on fire every other week
Yes, we should accept based on academic acheivement. But we base academic achievement as proportionate to your general community population. Because your achievement is going to be relative t on your environment. Hence why blacks have to score +0.6 higher than average in GPA and so do Asians. See: Now, do you need me to explain math to you some more?
Now the only jobs are in the Trump administration and they keep having layoffs :(
>Different races have different average academic scores. See last image.
Again, academic scores are not height, some random statistic. They are the criteria by which you're accepted or rejected by a university. How can you not understand this?
The only way you end up with an ethnically diverse student population, in the face of such "variety" in scores, is to prioritize race over academic ability in admissions. Which is affirmative action, which everyone but you agrees is policy just about everywhere.
You're proving my point here.
Kys uwu
Such as?
>>Different races have different average academic scores. See last image.
>Again, academic scores are not height, some random statistic. They are the criteria by which you're accepted or rejected by a university. How can you not understand this?
They are the criteria relative to the average GPA. They are not the only criteria by which you are accepted or rejected. Extracurriculars, references, your high school, all play a role. Oh hey, income also plays a role. Not sure if you realized, but medical schools ask for way more than just your GPA and MCAT score.
>The only way you end up with an ethnically diverse student population, in the face of such "variety" in scores, is to prioritize race over academic ability in admissions. Which is affirmative action, which everyone but you agrees is policy just about everywhere.
You again keep pretending that a +0.6 GPA above average for each race is discriminatory. How is it discriminatory to hold the same standard deviation to all races?
"Everyone" does not agree, except in your right wing bubble. There's a reason the asian lawsuit is failing in court.
>You're proving my point here.
And you're proving mine: that you had no counter argument to my arguments, and your goading about "debate" was just the typical concern troll. As I long considered. Thankfully, I'm only on Yea Forums to play with trolls like you. You keep pretending like you don't understand the flaw to your logic. But, like Tucker Carlson, I'm almost certain you're purposely leaving out information that doesn't fit your narrative.
But this is a retarded, racist, choice. Because the right thing to do is NOT to admit black students even though they have worse grades, but to HELP THE BLACK STUDENTS GET BETTER.
This means not confining black families to shitty jobs, shitty neighborhoods, with shitty schools and shitty teachers
This means levelling the playing field so that all children, regardless of "race", can have a good education, and equal (or at least fairly equal) chances at academic success.
The key is to make it so that equal work yields approximately equal results, in order for family background not to hinder children.
THAT would be a policy for equality, because black people are as much capable of hard work and intellectual pursuits as asian or white or arabian people. Only, they need to have the chance to get a real education, without social drama holding them back.
Bill and Hillary Clinton literally pioneered the strategy of compromising toward the right. Bill even campaigned on being a gun lover from Arkansas.
>Oh hey, income also plays a role. Not sure if you realized, but medical schools ask for way more than just your GPA and MCAT score.
Lol! Those rich black students, crowding out the poor Asians and whites
>You again keep pretending that a +0.6 GPA above average for each race is discriminatory. How is it discriminatory to hold the same standard deviation to all races?
Because it requires you to discriminate based on race? If the process were race-blind, how would a university differentiate between an average black student and a terrible Asian one? They can't. They are making the decision to admit black students with worse scores, because they are black.
If a university were prevented from knowing the race of applicants, looking at those GPA averages, what ethnic mix would you expect?
>But, like Tucker Carlson, I'm almost certain you're purposely leaving out information that doesn't fit your narrative.
>I'd like to imagine there's totally stuff that makes me right here, so I'll just act like there is.
>The key is to make it so that equal work yields approximately equal results, in order for family background not to hinder children.
The problem with equal work yielding equal results is that it unfortunately does not account for ability.
I could work my ass off every single day to be an NBA star, but I will not ever be. I am not tall enough, nor talented enough at basketball. No amount of effort will make me good enough to play at that level.
Is that fair?
how do you help something that has been proven anthropologically and neuroscientically to be inherently incapable of comprehending conceptual symbols and forming neural connections like others?
the reason some races perform better than others is because of how they struggled and formed conceptual symbols that are part of ancient instinct. i would bet that the way the dumbest blacks play basketball or football, if it were analyzed carefully, is almost perfectly optimized calculus but... dogs also have that instinct built in.
the problem is, that on the highest, conscious level, both blacks and dogs can't actually do it on paper.
abcnews.go.com
indiana.edu
this proves that dogs naturally have the ability to do one of the early calc I problems in optimization using derivatives; you can walk 4 mph on the sidewalk but only 3 mph on grass. where do you decide to turn and walk diagonally across the grass to optimize your time to reach the opposite corner of a large field?
>Lol! Those rich black students, crowding out the poor Asians and whites
Notice how you didn't address the contradiction to your narrative. Your narrative is that academics is the basis of acceptance. But you ignore affluence, references, extracurriculars, family background, etc. Instead, the only two criteria you see for college acceptance are race and test scores. Weird that you people always focus on those 2 specific topics.
>Because it requires you to discriminate based on race? If the process were race-blind, how would a university differentiate between an average black student and a terrible Asian one?
Being non-discriminatory does not mean being "race blind". In fact, being "race blind" means you actively reject the differences in experience between different races, which is scientifically documented. Just like the difference in test scores is scientifically documented. Funny enough, this is literally a phenomena documented in racist white people: "I can't be racist, I don't see color, you must be racist for acknowledging color!"
>They can't. They are making the decision to admit black students with worse scores, because they are black.
Except they're not, and I just demonstrated that because they take the average and add +0.6 to the GPA. Keep ignoring that fact, though, it doesn't fit your narrative Tucker.
>If a university were prevented from knowing the race of applicants, looking at those GPA averages, what ethnic mix would you expect?
GPA is not the only method of acceptance. "Black" names on applications get regularly discarded. The college could just as easily google the location of the applicant's origin and make a racial determination there, as well.
It's a cute thought experiment, but means nothing since colleges do not base the majority of their acceptance on GPA. They get applicants in their GPA range every year they reject
>a bunch of race science BS
Well, finally you came out with it. I was wondering when all the test scores and race talk would culminate in the NPC talking points
>Funny enough, this is literally a phenomena documented in racist white people: "I can't be racist, I don't see color, you must be racist for acknowledging color!"
True, people should be judged by the color of their skin, not by the content of their characters. Dear God
>Except they're not, and I just demonstrated that because they take the average and add +0.6 to the GPA. Keep ignoring that fact, though, it doesn't fit your narrative Tucker.
You... really don't understand that what you posted demonstrates the opposite? How old are you?
>since colleges do not base the majority of their acceptance on GPA
I'm going to guess younger than college age, or that you never attended one.
I have to go to bed -- but universities have gone to court, and won, in order to discriminate based on race for applicants.
The controlling Supreme Court decision right now is 2003 Grutter v. Bollinger
en.wikipedia.org
>O'Connor noted that sometime in the future, perhaps twenty-five years hence, racial affirmative action would no longer be necessary in order to promote diversity. It implied that affirmative action should not be allowed permanent status and that eventually a "colorblind" policy should be implemented. The opinion read, "race-conscious admissions policies must be limited in time."
>"The Court takes the Law School at its word that it would like nothing better than to find a race-neutral admissions formula and will terminate its use of racial preferences as soon as practicable. The Court expects that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest approved today."
Again, nobody but you denies that this is happening. You're supposed to be arguing that it's a GOOD thing that it's happening.
have you ever seen a bigger samefagging fag?
leftist really are pathetic. why do i have to be on the same planet as this people..
>True, people should be judged by the color of their skin, not by the content of their characters. Dear God
Recognizing empirical differences in people is not judging them.
>You... really don't understand that what you posted demonstrates the opposite? How old are you?
That's so cute, Tucker Carlson does the same thing when he gets painted into a corner: dodge the argument
>I'm going to guess younger than college age, or that you never attended one.
Guess what you want, still dodging the argument. Have you ever seen a college application? You think it says, "1. Name 2. GPA 3. Turn in to your nearest college" or some shit? XD come on, Tucker, you're not THAT old
>hurr durr samefag meme
Lurk more faggot
see
I don't get why you keep trying to deny something that has been openly happening for decades is happening.
Goodnight!
>an opinion said that maybe 25 years later we could move past race
>we havent moved past race
This doesn't mean affirmative action is discriminatory you dumb piece of shit. Remind me to call you Tucker next time I run by your retarded ass
i found the fat lesbian. how many colors is your hair? has your father returned your calls this year yet?
Kek
If you're a loser and fit in nowhere else, join this shit:
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>TJ Kirk
A whinny know nothing know it all.
Wonderfully interesting commentary
*thumbs safety on rifle*
>goes on shitty gay hookup board
>?????????????
>"Oh no they dont agree with my likes and wants"
>howcouldthishappen.jpg
The French Revolution.
The New Deal 1946 -
No idea what you're talking about mongoloid
lol what, it's the only way you didn't get killed for being commies, soon to end but it DID technically work for the better part of a century
anyway you want it in the head or the chest? mostly for comfort sake, you won't get an open or closed casket, or a funeral, because I'm going to use you commies rotting meat to fertilize the food of the commies who surrendered
>No idea what you're talking about
yeah but you do tho
Assassination of Tsar Alexander II
I guess?
let me guess you jerk to that at least once a day
>implying you faggots are willing to go to work
Last time you couldnt stomach it, really want us to burn Atlanta again?
Nah ur mom jerks for me
Yeah. Well played.
>burn a literal city of niggers, a typical leftist mayor murder shithole, a blue dot in a sea of red Trump counties out of sheer nigger
please! can I help?
G-G-G-Ghost Mom quick call richard dawkins he is your only hope
>implying
Dawkins is part of the right wing anti-pc dudes lol
not let us finish the abos off
trips confirm drummers get laid
HOLY FUCK
MIND = BLOWN
being left in the first place
you are a fringe retard
fuck off, faggot
Nope, that's the majority. Reasonable people just tired of stupid, racist, intolerant behavior.
eat shit, tranny faggot, NPC leftard sjw sperm-gargler
and a commie
I love it when leftards feel the need to explain that their not really leftards.
Everyone in the thread seem to be under the impression minorities are people
They are not.
All the bases.
>Imagine being this retarded on Yea Forums.
This nigger is dumb as fuck. How does he remember to breathe?
Dingdingding!!!!
What prize do I get for winning "Spot the retard" game?
Thought Hillary was a viable candidate.
>its samefagging, it must be
>because the majority of people has to be as retarded as I am
kys
Conservatives do not give a fuck what you do with your genitals. Until you violate a law with your genitals. Or, mess with little kid genitals in some way. The left are the ones running around waving their genitals in everyone's face and demanding special treatment for cutting their own genitals up. Nigga, you cut your dick off, you're a dickless dude. You are not a woman.
So, niggers are dumber than everyone else, but still deserve to take up an INCREASED percentage of slots away from more qualified students?
Fucking idiot. A premed nigger tried to feed a sick baby bleach water because another nigger told him it worked. This is what you want?
They decided the only response they should have any time they are opposed on something by pretty much anyone is to double down. This gave us basically everything dumb they've done for a long time. The left's decline into radicalization and stupidity is just a long story of them doubling down on even the dumbest shit again and again and again. It's going to kill them as a party unless they pull their heads out of each others asses and knock it off.
You fail at math fuckstick. But, let's use yours anyway. 20%? Right? Your number, not mine.
Illegal immigrants cost per year is 1.3 trillion dollars.
20% of that is 210 billion.
The 40 billion you claim the wall will cost is 20% of that. And is a one time investment that you claim will only cost .4% of the initial investment to upkeep a steady net of 210 billion a year.
And that's just the welfare savings. To say nothing of any crimes prevented, or the increase in cost to welfare that these illegals will cause when they start breeding.
No, black people are not capable of those things. Maybe, 10-15% are. WHICH IS ALMOST THE SAME FUCKING % OF THE POPULATION THEY ARE. Giving a nigger free money and free opportunity inevitably means they fuck it up. Or did you forget the housing collapse Obama orchestrated? So many people pissed at the banks because Obama passed shit to make it so underearning niggers could get access to loans they could not afford. THAT is why the government bailed the banks out. Because it was Obama's fucking fault.
“The left calls anyone they disagree with a Nazi”
>goes on to use the word nigger
At this point I’m not sure if you have a severe lack of self awareness or if this is just some retarded attempt at gaslighting
That's the same thing these days.
Their existence is retarded enough
That was the smartest thing they've ever done.
Get a life. Everyone on Yea Forums uses the word nigger. Pathetic neckbeard
>those opinions
>that spacing
you're either a subtle troll or very new. either way kys
Unoriginal and predictable