Why are you still dumb enough to watch Joe Rogan?

This is fucking retarded

Joe Rogan is a PC libtard

this

exactly

>Joe Rogan is a PC libtard
na, he's fairly centrist

> in america

Its true no matter where you are. If you're a negro that cant basketballz or sing and dance you're fucked.

forms full opinion off a meme

you'll do well

>Niggers are dumb! The white race is superior genetically and culturally!
>B-but it's still harder for white people!

Jesus Christ, the doublethink

>Would you rather be reincarnated as white or something else?

Oh, yeah, I'll take 'white' again, absolutely. I've been enjoying that. I'm gonna stick with white, thank you.

Imagine unironically saying 'libtard'
seething /pol/tard probably jacks off to nigger cuck porn

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>Its easier to be a white person
No shit.
Whites have a higher chance of having an intact family
Whites despite the liberals attempts still hold on to some traditional successful culture
Whites (Generally speaking) are smarter and have more emotional control

And even the libiest of libs knows that blacks are statistically more likely to fuck things up.
Ever notice how the libtards generally tend to only hire whites?
All the libby women black or otherwsie tend to only fuck white guys

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Best way to cure a liberal of their delusions of racial equality is for them to spend time in a black neighborhood

White privilege is a lie designed to explain away the success of the white race without making the other races look bad. The current political and cultural climate is decidedly anti-white, and they justify this with the aforementioned lie.
You can verify this logically with a simple experiment.
Could white privilege explain the success of entirely or majority white nations of the past? No. White success came before the melding of nations and races, and predates any possibility of white privilege.

You do know what doublethink means, right?

I know black people and white people are both shitty, that's my take on equality of the races as a leftist. Buncha deadwood white people in this country right now, more whiners and ignorant fools than anyone of value

I listen to Joe Rogan not because he's a voice of reason, but because he has people from all walks of life on his show. It's interesting to hear about the life experience of others.

because we're individuals with individuals lives. You can't compare hardship nor are there any rules putting any race above another in this country.

Experiences will vary.

>some retards say fuck whitey on twitter! I am oppressed!
i hate sjw's and niggers too but come on bud

He's saying in general, and he's correct

Taken out of context. He was also talking about how hypocritical it is that people will get banned for mocking blacks, mexicans, jews etc but not white people. Eat a dick

Then he should have said "most". When he said it, he stepped back and was trying to find middle ground to stop the guests from clamming up so hard that the discussion would end. He's said before that if you don't think white people can't have shit lives in america, go visit west virgina.

I bet a cop wouldn't shoot you after he pulls you over for speeding. Hell, if you run from a cop, he's probably not going to shoot you. He might taze you, but he isn't gonna shoot you, unlike so many black folk that end up with bullets in their backs or executed when lying on the ground with three other cops on their back.

Back to r*ddit, collectivist retard.

hope the gulag's nice and toasty for ya.

For when there are good guests you shitlord. It's almost like it's the entire point of the show. Also Joe has a pretty unique interview style, even if he is a dipshit.

Nobody watches it for Joe Rogan. They watch it because he let's guests say what they want and isn't afraid of any topics.

Only white peoples lose their jobs and therefore lives for saying they are proud of being white or prefer their own

This is not a more often or majority argument it’s a one for one fact no other race faces
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No shit. The point isn't that no white person has a harder life than some black people. The point is that, all else being equal, it's easier to be white.

He's a centrist - only a frothing retard from either end of the spectrum would believe otherwise. You dumb cunt.

Why would i be running from the cops, shill?

And you mean more people who commit crimes get shot? wow.

Btw they do shoot violent white people. You just watch too much cable news.

I think your “advantage” depends on your geography.

Not much of a “advantage” to be white in the country hills of Jamaica, or in the middle of India.

Native Americans aside, North America has been run by Caucasian’s for a long time and obviously are becoming the minority so therefore in theory that “advantage” you speak of is degrading more and more everyday.

Once white people become the minority they will be discriminated against just like blacks and latinos when they were outnumbered. It’s human nature.

White country’s have done more for other cultures than any other place on earth in the modern era.
White country’s have to be diverse nowadays, ever heard China or Japan or India talk about diversity in their population. It will never happen

If you narrow factors. What if i say china? or detroit? or The world?

You pick and choose because you have an agenda of self-hatred you were taught. Or you're just a racist that wants to feel emboldened by bullshit.

I'm sorry that white people being reasonable and not wanting to be summed up with a racial ideology bothers you. You're a fucking individual. Stop it.

around blacks you cannot relax
- Mahatma Ghandi

Blacks and hispanics get jobs and scholarships easier. Numerous different major finanocal race based benefits are unavailable to whites.

It is easier when you have a higher IQ.

>be white
>statistically have a higher intelligence than niggers and spics

he's technically correct.

>In America
It's like you don't know what the topic of the thread is.

Why are you dumb enough to not realize white people have an easier life? It's not rocket science.

We're discussing your mindset and world views as rogan seems to be gone from this thread at the moment

>Why are you still dumb enough to watch Joe Rogan?

I like his appearances on Meat Eater.

Joe's a centrist & manages to influence future alt-right kids.

I'd rather be born a rich black person than a poor white person.

Now sure, odds are in favor that a white person will be rich, and a black person will be poor.

But if you had a 1:10 chance of being poor, and your poor, you're still fucking poor. Doesn't matter what your odds were, you're still fucking poor, and it sucks ass. Just because some rich dude has the same colour skin as you don't mean shit.

it's easier to be a poor white person than a poor black person.

Please, i know you mean well... but you have to let their beliefs ruin their lives so future generations can't be indoctrinated. They can't hear what you're saying anyways, young one.

Sure, but I said I'd rather be a *rich* black person than a poor white person.

Race is not the only factor in deciding "ease of life"

young one? lol

A rich black person still gets called "nigger" when he goes outside.
A rich black person still gets handcuffed for having a taillight out.
A rich black person still gets death threats for being black.
A rich black person still gets the police called on them for babysitting their family members.
A rich black person is still assumed a "criminal" and a "thug", regardless of appearance.
A rich black person still gets harassed for being around a white woman

A poor white person experiences none of those things, nor even the possibility of those things. As a poor white person, I'd rather be black and rich. Being black and rich still has the stigma of being black.

lol

A poor white person gets called "white trash" when he goes outside.
A poor white person gets handcuffed for having a taillight out (unless they don't have a car).
A poor white person gets death threats for being poor.
A poor white person gets the police called on them for baby sitting their family members.
A poor white person is still assumed a "criminal" and a "degenerate", just because of their appearance (can't afford nice things).
A poor white person still gets harassed for being around non-poor people (e.g. white women).

I have dealt with every single one of those things and more while growing up poor.

A poor white person experiences many of those things. And most certainly suffers the possibility of those things.

Sure being black and rich still has the stigma of being black. I didn't deny that. But as you even said... I still rather be black and rich than poor and white. Even with the stigma, it's still a better deal.

My god if he said this he’s old school

they wouldnt know its like asking a trustfund kid how it is to be poor

he's not the smartest guy out there, but he at least attempts to discuss interesting topics in a straight-forward manner

lol delusional

We are talking about this country tho y u bring up Jamaica

cont'd

Some examples. (I'm white and grew up poor. We didn't own a car, I had only 1 pair of pants. And I spent a good deal of time in women's shelters and church basements)

When I was 13 a cop tackled me off my bike, picked me up in the air, then body slammed me for not wearing a helmet (I wasn't required to, 13 was the age you could stop).

After an altercation one even between the cops and my mother because neighbours complained about us playing street hockey in the apartment complex. The following day one of the cops showed up to the park, walked up to my 7 year old brother, flicked a quarter at him and said "tell your whore mother she was good last night".

Regularly various people would come up to me, come to my house, even faculty at the school. They would tell me that if I ever cross them they'll have me taken from my mother, get my mother thrown in jail, and I'll rot in foster care until I likely go to jail or overdose.

I've been told on numerous occassions by other women at the various shelters I stayed at that I shouldn't be there because I'll just grow up to be a rapist anyways.

...

Yeah, I doubt rich black people are putting up with that sort of stuff.

>A poor white person gets called "white trash" when he goes outside.
I live in a black neighborhood, no we don't
>A poor white person gets handcuffed for having a taillight out (unless they don't have a car).
Yeah, gonna go with statistically nope.
>A poor white person gets death threats for being poor.
Going to say you've never been a poor white person
>A poor white person gets the police called on them for baby sitting their family members.
Yeah, still not reflecting a white person's experience of the world
>A poor white person is still assumed a "criminal" and a "degenerate", just because of their appearance (can't afford nice things).
Yeah, nope, the only people that use the word "degenerate" are anti-gay conservative types
>A poor white person still gets harassed for being around non-poor people (e.g. white women)
>I have dealt with every single one of those things and more while growing up poor.
This is because you're an awkward spazzoid that most people probably see as racist.
>A poor white person experiences many of those things. And most certainly suffers the possibility of those things.
>Sure being black and rich still has the stigma of being black. I didn't deny that. But as you even said... I still rather be black and rich than poor and white. Even with the stigma, it's still a better deal.
The "better deal" is having money. However, it comes with the risk of being killed for no reason except the color of your skin.

You have failed to describe any aspect of an actual poor white person's life. I'm going to assume you're just the typical suburban white dude that doesn't know how to socialize and thinks he's oppressed because of it.

Try living in a shitty black neighborhood.
Same thing but more screaming, loud rap music, and crying all the goddamn time

>things that didn't happen
You are grossly exaggerating possible incidents for dramatic effect.

Someone please kill this guy. He works for the Jews.

You are denying the possibility of incidents because it doesn't fit your world view for trolling effect.

Mindset. I didn't want to be rude. Just take it that you've maintained youthful intelligence levels.

Those are actually some of the tamest moments in my life. The more extreme are so unbelievable that you most definitely wouldn't believe them.

For example in a span of 2 years from 2005 to 2007 I lost 5 family members, and 20+ friends, to murder, overdose, suicide, cop shooting, and more.

Every single one of them were white. Well... except D... I guess you could say D was a dirty greek...

Every time you sound smart to impress your penis gets smaller by an inch.

The idea behind that guys troll post is his effort in typing versus yours. He won

But if it makes you feel better, he's more overweight than you are.

I've only watched some of the one with Alex Jones, but that was because Alex is fucking hilarious, Joe seemed like a wet napkin.

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Yes, because I believe in superstition and magic.

I type at 100 wpm, not much effort. Sorry if you and/or he are slow to type.

lol imagine being so dumb that you think individuality invalidates a trend for groups

I'm not denying the possibility of incidents.
I'm denying their validity as anecdotal evidence, not case studies such as police shooting incidents, nor statistical data such as that which supports the oppression of minority populations.
Your experience, even if considered true, would be an outlier rather than the norm. Not because it fits my worldview, but because my worldview is dictated by the evidence.

obs not, he jacks it to AOC while claiming hes owning the libs

Serious talk dont you think the concept of atoms is just as imaginary as a man in the sky ? Could be called little balls of reality in some alien planet.

White here. There were zero scholarships available to me solely because of the color of my skin. I don't have the benefit of a society that is in constant apology mode towards me as they tip-toe around my self-appointed victim status.

Yeah, slavery sucked. But you, in 2019, are better off because of it. I realize you have some kind of guilt complex because you are the beneficiary of all of the blood, sweat, and tears that every previous generation had to go through to get you to the entitled position you now occupy, but stop with the victim shit.

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imagine being so dumb you think you're a number that can be easily quantified and basing your world views on people's skin color as a primary factor to success.

>I live in a black neighborhood, no we don't
Didn't say you had to be in a black neighbourhood

>A poor white person gets handcuffed for having a taillight out (unless they don't have a car).

Statistics largely show that more white people are shot by cops, arrested by cops, and well just about everything by cops.

Now of course this makes sense since white people make up the majority of the population. So of course they would have more.

Blacks are disproportionately arrested relative to their population.

But if 50+% of arrests are white, yes, whites are having this done to them.

>Yeah, still not reflecting a white person's experience of the world

see previous statement

>This is because you're an awkward spazzoid that most people probably see as racist.

I am a bit of a spaz. But these weren't just things that happened to me... but pretty much everyone in every neighbourhood I've ever lived.

>The "better deal" is having money. However, it comes with the risk of being killed for no reason except the color of your skin.

Yeah, rich black people don't actually face a whole lot of that being killed stuff. Statistically speaking that is.

>You have failed to describe any aspect of an actual poor white person's life. I'm going to assume you're just the typical suburban white dude that doesn't know how to socialize and thinks he's oppressed because of it.

Note, I never said black people don't have it bad.

I said that a RICH black person still has it better than a POOR white person.

Because this country doesn't just have a race problem. It ALSO has a class problem. And we're all in denial about that.

user 1: It's easier to be white in america
user 2: I bet that statement doesn't apply elsewhere so you're wrong

>For example in a span of 2 years from 2005 to 2007 I lost 5 family members, and 20+ friends, to murder, overdose, suicide, cop shooting, and more.

Wow, it's so hard to believe someone would lose friends and family to overdose, suicide and murder, "and more".
Guess what? A lot of that is part of getting older. Family dies. People overdose. Welcome to reality. Glad you're here. My half brother's large, southern family all whittled out and died from genetic disease. Life's a bitch.
None of the incidents described come from your race.
>overdose
Self-administered drugs have no racial discrimination. Unless, say, you're black and the Reagan's CIA wants you addicted to crack.
>murder
Notice you didn't predicate "murder" with any reference to race as the reason?
>suicide
Need I even explain?
>cop shooting
I could buy an anti-white racist cop, but that would be an outlier, statistically

I can't stand that guy. Total phoney.

For perspective.
You know I’m right and as I mentioned before North America for most of its creation has been led by whites and populated by whites, therefore i agree yes in a predominant white country being white has many advantages however its not like that today as white people increasinly become the minority that advantage starts to fade and is fading. People act as if this is such a crazy concept that’s why I brought up Jamaica because according to where you live their will be different cultural and racial advantages.

I'm sorry he hurt your feelings. Want a tampon?

>None of the incidents described come from your race.

Yeah, that's my point.

Race isn't the ONLY factor. You fucking moron.

Class ALSO plays a role.

LOL What it do Yea Forums?

First thing, I cant even believe Im posting on this site but whatever, I can take a break from makin paper and playin bitches to serve ALL of you. Secondly, What the fuck is wrong with you faggot nerds? All i can see is a bunch of disgusting, overweight, basement-dwelling, pedophiles. Nothing like an alpha male such as myself.

Do you realize how much pussy a fucking winner like me gets? I am tappin a different bitch EVERY. FUCKING. WEEK. I'd bet hella money that half of you havent ever gotten laid, and the other half got it from your fat sisters, Lol. See, marines like me understand REAL humor. Yeah thats right, Im also a marine.

At this point I know you all WOULD have tried to mess with me with all of that pussy hacking shit, because Im right and you're angry. Also you are unpatriotic and hate real American heroes like me. But i know you just looked at my fucking traps and shit your pants.

Just TRY and fuck with me. See what happens.

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Hence why I said I'd rather be a RICH black person than a POOR white person.

The disparity of class there can have a large enough factor that it makes life better for the RICH black person than the POOR white person.

He's stating that cherry picking doesn't actually point out real issues in humanity, fuckskunk.

Because I like to see ostensibly grown adults that talk about aliens, bigfootses, mind control, global conspiracies etc right after bringing on a real scientist and asking them the dumbest fucking questions that pop into their head.

Joe Rogans podcast is the kind of show that stupid people think of as being Deep and Intellectual, and that there really isn't any dumb questions, instead of being a social platitude to make stupid people feel less embarrassed.

Oh no my WHITE FRAGILITY. SOMEONE STOP THIS BAD MAN FROM SPEAKONG HATEFUL NONSENSE ABOUT US WHITE FOLKS!

Imagine being so dumb and weak that you think because of the color of your meat bag, your life sucks.

This person is victimising entire races. Lol

This is because of a higher culture not skin color wtf.

But it kinda does though you just don’t want to acknowledge a valid point.

I wasn't offering it as evidence.

Also if you want statistics.

OK... lets just pick a random article going into detail about data. Here's one:
towardsdatascience.com/us-police-killings-what-the-data-tells-us-563f8b052452

Note in it we get all sorts of breakdowns. But one thing that always is part of these numbers, but is seldom actually graphed can be seen in this quote:

". The tail end of the graphs for Whites also extended a lot further into older ages, but it’s understandable that they had more outliers as they made up over half the data-set."

>they made up over half the data-set

Now, as I previously alread stated... this makes sense since whites make up over half the population. Of course whites would be half the data set.

There in lies the thing... they're the majority of deaths!

Now... I'm NOT saying that cops aren't racially motivated. It's definitely why relative to their population blacks are more likely to be shot. Twice, if not 3 times as likely.

Not saying blacks don't suffer oppression.

I'm only saying that just because they do does not mean whites don't face problems.

And IMO class is a big part of that.

Cause I mean honestly... of that 50+% of shootings by cops being against white people... who do you think they are? Do you think they're rich white people?

no... they're poor white people.

Just like the majority of welfare recipients are white.

Just like the majority of prison inmates are white.

There's an entire population of lower class white people that everyone leaves the fuck out and act like even if you're poor and white life is still dandy cause you're white.

No. It's not true.

It's why white people are still the majority of all this shitty stuff.

>Not realising the ironing of this response.

>Didn't say you had to be in a black neighbourhood
No, but living in an ethnic neighborhood would ostensibly be where you'd get anti-white comments
>But if 50+% of arrests are white, yes, whites are having this done to them.
Whites are not having it done to them based on race, that's the point. The rate in which these things are done has a severe discrepancy, yet you dance around that to suit your narrative.
>I am a bit of a spaz. But these weren't just things that happened to me... but pretty much everyone in every neighbourhood I've ever lived.
Then your specific neighborhood had abuse of power.
>Yeah, rich black people don't actually face a whole lot of that being killed stuff. Statistically speaking that is.
No, but they face the possibility of these things based on their race. Such as blacks being falsely accused of murder 7x as often as whites.
>Note, I never said black people don't have it bad.
Note, I never said you said black people don't have it bad
>I said that a RICH black person still has it better than a POOR white person.
Note: I never disagreed with your preference of situation
>Because this country doesn't just have a race problem. It ALSO has a class problem. And we're all in denial about that.
Note: I haven't denied the class problem, you've subverted from the race problem to say that someone rich and black has a kosher life comparatively. That life is rife with the possibility of racial attack. 2 years ago a fucking black state attorney general was pulled over for being blackm when the officer realized who she was, he suddenly was mistaken in stopping her. That is a rich, powerful black woman that was 1 "misunderstanding" from having her life ruined. In today's climate, she might bounce back from such an incident. That is incredibly fucking recent though.

true dis, also.
also i watch Joe because he is a leftist cuck, but he is entertaining to watch when he talks about weed or invites interesting people. Joe is one leftist I kind of can stand, but he is still a fucking pseudo intellectual retard.

Mind you he is reffering to black people only

asians and mexicans dont matter in america

cont'd

now y'all can say that makes me racist... because you assume because I say that I'm denying black people of their oppression.

But I disagree.

I would love for the hate to stop.

But it disheartens me that we ignore the root of many problems. Like poverty and class.

Blacks are 2 to 3 times more likely to suffer things like prison relative to their population. But they're also 2 to 3 times more likely to be POOR relative to their population.

And the thing is if you line up poverty numbers to a lot of these statistics trends begin to appear.

Sure one line up is correlation.

But several, several is pointing at possible causation.

But no... we all stick our fingers in our ears when we here "class". Nope, that can't be the problem. It's race and ONLY race.

Why can't it be both?

I was smart enough to never watch joe rogan

I never even liked him when I used to watch ufc, dude couldnt call a fight to save his life, he was fucking clueless

>rich black people don't face murder, suicide, police violence, etc.
The disparity of class is a separate form of disparity, and to claim it is greater than that of race is no largely supported by data unless you look at very specific populations.
Also, wealth has more mobility than race. You can escape poverty. You can't escape skin color, even if it's "just a drop".

>No, but living in an ethnic neighborhood would ostensibly be where you'd get anti-white comments

Why, because only white people say nigger and only black people say cracker/white-trash?

You're also forgetting I'm framing my statements in that of class. White people call poor white people "white trash".

>Whites are not having it done to them based on race, that's the point.

Yeah, they're having it done to them because of CLASS. That's my point.

>Then your specific neighborhood had abuse of power.

I've lived in SoCal, SoFla, Washington, and New England. So all of these places are abusing their power? I think I smell of trend.

>No, but they face the possibility of these things based on their race.

Class, moron.

>Note, I never said you said black people don't have it bad

smh

>Note: I never disagreed with your preference of situation

And I never said black people don't have it bad. So what's your fucking point?

>Note: I haven't denied the class problem

So what's your fucking point?

You quote something I didn't say.

I never said:
>rich black people don't face murder, suicide, police violence, etc.

If that is your summation of my posts... well, you suck at reading comprehension.

>no rules putting a race above another
> affirmative action
Sorry that white boi got rejected in place of a less qualified minority because..?

The odds of escaping poverty are low.

The means by which to do it is often rather high.

Sure it's doable... but in that technicality, it's also possible to move somewhere where race isn't a problem for you. It's hard, but it's TECHNICALLY doable.

Regardless... lets say you can't at all. That doesn't discount that class plays a role.

Bigger? Not necessarily, but big enough that a rich black person probably will have it more well of than a poor white person.

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You were trying to reset the conversation because you couldn't come up with a counter point that also warranted an emotional responce and you're not interested in putting in much effort here. This is a complex conversation and you're choosing to pedantically tell him to stay on topic when it suits you.

This is just you playing. The problem is that you do it soooo much these days. I worry about what you might become, user.

>white people are still the majority of this shitty stuff.
The. Rate. At. Which. This. Occurs. Relative. To. The. Population. Has. An. Enormous. Discrepancy.

I don't know how to get this through to you: you're not defining "rich" or "poor" in terms of income. The difference between a millionaire and an impoverished white person is going to be enormous. The difference between someone making 50k a year and someone making 20k a year isn't. 20k and 50k are both going to be struggling to make it through the paycheck. 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

Addressing class inequality without address racial inequality leaves racial inequality to be exploited by the higher class due to it not being addressed. The point is that saying you'd rather be rich and black is a personal preference. You know what poverty is like. You have no fucking clue what being black is like, nor rich and black. And from the vast majority of accounts on the experience, it is no more nor less preferable. To play oppression olympics on "oh my class situation is worse than the race situation" is narrowminded as fuck. That's my point.

He’s right. What the fuck is the debate here? You’re foolish as fuck if you think otherwise.

He doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside, which is enough for me to say this guy is a dumbass.

>The. Rate. At. Which. This. Occurs. Relative. To. The. Population. Has. An. Enormous. Discrepancy.

Yep, I already agreed about rates relative to population.

I'm not saying only one or the other can exist.

I'm saying BOTH play a role.

You fucking tard.

>I don't know how to get this through to you: you're not defining "rich" or "poor" in terms of income. The difference between a millionaire and an impoverished white person is going to be enormous.

Not sure what you don't think I'm not understanding.

>Addressing class inequality without address racial inequality leaves racial inequality...

see this, this right here is why you keep arguing with me.

You seem to think that I'm saying we should only consider ONLY class.

I'm not saying that.

I'm sayhing BOTH class and race play a role.

And you keep going on about how I'm wrong. Yet agree with me with your statements. But insist I'm wrong. Because you think I think class is the only relevent thing.

I think both play a role.

And as a result... being rich and black is better than poor and white.

It just is.

Of course being a millionaire, regardless of race, is going to be WAY fucking better than not.

It just is.

>enough that a rich black person probably will have it better
This is my point, as described in last post.
You keep making it either/or and it's fucking both. Failure to address both results in the dissolving of the unity. You want progressive politics based on class? MLK was a huge fucking proponent of it. The black community at large have fucking ancestral roots with the a more class conscious society.
Address the concerns of the black community equally and quit trying to play oppression olympics on what specific stigmata has it "the worst".
My point was to dissolve your "rich black people have it easy" narrative. You can't dismiss the racial element for class when you include both elements in the goddamn fucking premise of your argument

Exactly. He usually doesn't give his opinion if it's polar and when he does, he's still able to adapt and change it when new information is presented to him. That's how the mind is supposed to work withing a "civilized" society.

cont'd

now if you say middle class... well yeah, I'd rather be white. It's certainly easier than being middle class and black.

But that's how multi-dimensional, or "intersectional", demographics work.

No one is more important than the other. They all come together to create an individuals situation.

And as a result a gross blanket statement that no matter what being white is easier than being black is false. Their are other factors that can alter that.

Such as class, religion, gender, disabilities, and much more.

There's one, I'd rather be rich black woman than a poor retarded jewish boy.

> on people's skin color as a primary factor to success.
Poor communities tend to stay poor.
Black people historically have been sheppard and emiserated in poor communities, which has yet to be fixed.
Therefore, being being black increases your lack of opportunities tenfold.

>You keep making it either/or and it's fucking both.

No I don't.

search the thread... I use the word BOTH a lot.

You keep making assuming I mean either or.

Why? I don't know. You're retarded or something.

Not that user but fufe you're dumb as fuck. Being rich is clearly worth being black vs being poor white. Skin color literally doesn't matter, unless you're a jew then you get some bonuses. Money is everything now and being rich is essentially hitting full best in slot for all your characters

>You can't dismiss the racial element for class when you include both elements in the goddamn fucking premise of your argument

I'm not dismissing the racial element.

It's why I specifically chose black and rich vs poor and white.

To highlight that BOTH impact the outcome.

And that relatively speaking... being rich is awesome, it's awesome enough that it can make your life easy enough to overcome the hardships put on you for being black.

It doesn't solve the problem.

But life still way fucking better than that of a poor person, even if that poor person was white.

You know...

BOTH

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You keep talming about who has it worse, as though class is more pressing than race issue. Thus making it either/or. Both situations have situation-specific discriminations. They are not comparable in the manner are trying to compare them and the comparison is more of a division than a form of coming together.
"Actually, poor whites have it worse than rich blacks"
You know who physically harasses black people? It is NOT rich white people. Take a guess on the class standing of the average racist

>You keep talming about who has it worse, as though class is more pressing than race issue. Thus making it either/or.

I didn't talk about who has it worse.

Where did I say they have it worse?

I merely said that poor white people ALSO deal with problems due to their class.

If you took that as either or, or as me claming white people have it worse.

Well, that's on you bro. You're assuming things about what I said.

And sorry... you're having an argument with the fictious version of me in your head. So of course we're not making any ground.

Stop it.

Yes, the version of me in your head is wrong. But there in lies the problem... that's not me.

I actually agree with you. Being black has numerous issues that come with that white people don't actually have to deal with.

All I'm saying is that class ALSO brings a list of things.

And the ORIGINAL post was stating the absolute of being black is ALWAYS worse. The original post of this thread framed the either or argument.

I merely pulled back from that and said "no, it's not either or... for example, if we add class to the equation you can end up with a result that makes life significantly easier/harder even when measuring for race as well".

or simply:

being rich and black is better than white and poor.

I'm painting the nuance in contempt of the black&white (pardon the ironic pun) absolutist statement of the OP

>being rich can let you overcome the hardships of race
No it fucking doesnt because the hardships of race are wholly unrelated to class. That is how you're being invalidating you fucking idiot.
No amount of money takes away the first time you were called a nigger. Every black person I've ever met remembers that moment in their life. Every single black person in the US has the experience of learning that they were at one point a piece of property. And every single one also has the experience of being verbally told that they still, are, in fact, a nigger.
That doesn't go away because you have money. And as a poor white person, maybe you can understand the goddamn concept of the first time you were looked down on for your money. And every time since. Having money does not remove that experience when you're black

when he has other comedians on it's the funniest shit on earth.

cont'd

If you can't accept that... and want to continue assuming I mean something else.

Well, I can't help you then.

Continue thinking some anonymous strawman out their is a racist scumbag who doesn't understood the nuance you seem to insist I don't understand.

Have a good night.

You're not understanding what I mean by that statement.

I'm saying that if you're rich... even if someone calls you nigger, or judges you for the colour of your skin. Odds are you don't give a fuck cause you're rich.

Or the fact that black people are shot more... you don't give a fuck cause you live in a beautiful gated community where that potential does not arise.

Or prison time... you don't give a fuck because you have money to pay lawyers and get away with shit (if you commit shit).

Cause wealth mediates the displeasures.

Sure, they're still there. But they don't sting as much.

Why?

Cause you're rich.

>as a poor white person let me tell you what black people really need

Let me put this another way, I'm telling you to stay in your lane, you don't know what it's like and you're telling me this is your lane. It's not

I love how you keep surmizing what I'm saying with things like:

>as a poor white person let me tell you what black people really need

Which is so far from what I say.

When the fuck did I say what black people need?

You're retarded.

Go fuck yourself.

this

stay in my lane?

Are you a rich black person?

Are you saying I don't know what it's like to be a rich black person and you do?

OK... sure... I don't.

What I do know. I know what it's like to be a poor white person. Stay the fuck in your own fucking lane. Prick.

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>I don't know what it's like to be a rich black person
There. That sentence. Juxtapose it with the money "takes away the sting" and "being rich and black is better than being poor and white"
You cannot definitively say this because of your limited scope of experience. You are trying to say class is "worse" than race. Again, that is easy to say when you have no goddamn understanding of the other group's experience. Your posturing to sound inclusive is annoying because its a way to soften your stance of "my oppression is more valid than other people's oppression". They're different systems of oppression, sometimes they overlap, sometimes they don't. Every degree away from being a muscled, tall, affluent, white business owning bachelor Male is a step away from the ideal in American society. See: audre lorde

The reason I'm bashing you is so you can get a more comprehensive worldview because I see you as capable of understanding, but you're failing to understand the gravity.

its not necessarily incorrect but it is simply to broad

reality is much more complex

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You are aware of the fact that not all black people live in ghettos? And that it could simply be fixed by the people themselves not turning it to shit with their government handouts? Are you also aware of the fact that trailer trash parks exist? One last thing to ask; Do you remember what happened to the Native Americans? What we did to them? Now ask yourself this, why aren't there Native American ghettos? Hmm...

>SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING, WAAAAAAAH
This is all this board is now, plus porn. Fuck all of you.

Get rekt newfag

>Every degree away from being a muscled, tall, affluent, white business owning bachelor Male is a step away from the ideal in American society.

That is an unsubstantiated claim. In fact, by your own argument, you can't even make this claim because your own limited scope of experience. Welcome to Post Modernism

It's not going to be the same. Whites will still have more money, and whites will still be the mainstream culture that everyone assimilates to (some more, some less).

Who is going to discriminate against the a white minority -- a completely united majority of all nonwhite people who have no other issues to worry about?

Race will not be as big of an issue as everyone gets more mixed. There will be plenty of other things to argue about.

You literally contradict yourself over and over. White privilege is a thing because whites have been so successful.

Therefore since whites built the infrastructure being anything but white is a detriment.

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>Implying that other races can't take advantage of the same infrastructure whites do

herp derp

He has interesting interviews, shows respect to his guests, and is open minded. Also, I enjoy his humour.

shit bait, snowflake

put Linux

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Sure but all.things else the same being black comes with a unique set of challenges whites simply dont face and dont have a comparable analog to.

Individuals will always have a unique experiance, statistics is the talking point.

>welcome to post-modernism
Hi Jordan Peterson NPC,
I wasn't the one to say this, this was an observation made by Audre Lorde in the 1980s. Hence "see: audre lorde"
The evidence is that every degree away from these ideals also, by pure coincidence I'm sure, suffers discriminatory treatment.

>implying an adult can't use a kiddie swing
I mean, an adult can use a kiddie swing, but they are usually unable to swing as far or as high as a child could.
Mainly because kiddie swings weren't built for the needs of adults. In fact, most of the features of a kiddie swing are in direct detriment to an adult's ability to swing. Just like white infrastructure wasn't built for the needs of black people, and is designed specifically in ways which hamper black people

chellenges they apply to themselves because they are slaves to their own culture. Ask any black person who made it out of "the hood". The people bringing blacks down more than anyone are other blacks. It is a bucket full of crabs analogy. And the far left piles on constantly telling them everyone is oppressing them instead of lifting them up. They just want downtrodden, beaten people to look up to them so they can be the saviour. Nobody is more racist than a far left lying sack of shit. They hide it in faux good deeds. At least some idiot on the far right will just call you a nigger. You know where you stand then. Nothing is more insidious than a fake friend.

Ask me how I know.

>the left is racist, at least the right will just call you a nigger
Yeah, I don't think you know how racism works. Or what being black is like

that's because you're stupid

At best: you're right, and life is harder for people who aren't white. That means they go through much more adversity in life, and build up more strength of character than any white person could ever have.

At worst: you're wrong, and while people are whining about being victims, others are just getting up and making lives for themselves, and it's working just fine, regardless of skin color.

Either way, all the conclusions you're drawing are wrong.

It's not DRAMATICALLY easier. It's not as if white people don't have shit to suffer through. But it's a demonstrable fact that blacks and hispanics have more shit on top of that.

Dis nigga also has stated he thinks the moon landing is fake

shits just entertainment. as long as you dont start believing all the conspiracy theorist shit shows he has on this podcast then enjoy it for how nanners it is

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>you build up more strength of character getting shot at Walmart when you're 12
>you build up more strength of character getting denied jobs and called "nigger" regularly

You're retarded if you take the phrase "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" and apply it to culture stigmatas

lmao xd

I would say its easier to grow up in 'most' white communities compared to 'most' black communities.