WHITE PRIVILEGE does NOT exist.Debate

People of color get negative images from media so the get to act like assholes all the time.
Robbing, raping, and murdeRing

Society supports this and people don’t call them out for their stupidity or violence.
That’s black privilege

Too bad you can't understand it.. Guess I will elaborate.

When talking about privilege, there can be small and big examples, and I did not compare it to other privileges.

Black people also have a different set of privileges, but obviously not on scale like white people and specifically in different sectors.

I agree with a lot of that. But we are simply talking about privileges in our society..

Society does not support crime.
Yes, media portraying black people like that is in general going to have a negative effect, but I don't know what the scale of that would be.

a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group

Just so we understand and have the definition clear.

White people have a set of advantages in general, and black people have a set of advantages in other areas.

Same with disadvantages.

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>white privilege

only people who interpret reality through a racist lens think this or say it

do you mean all the benefits and welfare programs white people have going for them?

maybe you meant how EASY it is to get a job or any form of financial aid as a straight white man with all the "diversity" and "inclusion" going around.

>media is white
whos media are you consuming again?
why is that?
you have things like BET and TMZ?
can't imagine the lawsuits from a WHITE entertainment channel.

> almost all rich and successful people on a large scale is white, and male.

so you're saying that there's no possible reason or factors for black people to be poor besides racism? it's all the racist system man, keepin the good brother down man.

White privilege exists in the west. That would be because the west is a white society, which is fine. Chinese privilege obviously exists in China, because Chinese people don't like foreigners living on their land. White people have been indoctrinated into feeling guilty for colonalisation, and have been shown that it's apparent members of other races entering western society lack privileges (though they don't seem to understand it's economic disadvantage from capitalist abuse and socialist welfare schemes, not because of other white people putting them down). I think I first really understood my white 'privilege' when I realised how I've been granted the right to think introspectively without disruption a lot more than someone of colour can in the west. My identity has never been at risk, nor have I been tied to a certain demographic to be discriminated against.
I get to spend my life reflecting inward and understanding myself and my character, whereas black people for example are stuck in this social stigma (both real and propagated by the media) where they can only think as deeply inward as their skin, because that's their conceived, primary identity. A good example of this dichotomy is in Daria, where a recurring black female character shares the same philosophies as Daria, but because of the fact she's black, she can't find the time or ability to express those philosophies, as the world's too tied up in her being just another black person who needs to be defending black views. Just my two cents.

You misunderstand me again. I'm doing my best to explain.

People agree and disagree on what the specific privileges are. Some can be extremely small, like people generally feel safer around white people than black people, which is documented. Or it can be big, like shorter prison sentences for the same crime, higher success rate when on trial or in court.

I went over it a couple of times above. Welfare programs mostly affect poor people of all colors, but most black people tend to be poor. And technically, it's a privilege to not having to use welfare, obviously.

I am not talking about racism, I am talking about privilege.

It does exist to be fair. Sorry bys.

A black veteran woman is about the most hirable person in America. But you have to be in the right field. Aka a slightly higher than working at lowes IQ. I weld, super surprised I got in being a white male. Professions get white males last even with qualifications over those who aren't due to mandates.

And I cant believe in this "holding you back society". My mother is a meth head single parent and poor as fuck when I was growing up. I was working and paying bills since 14. All I did was question everything and seek the answers. I was a terrible student being so depressed about home life I often thought suicide. The teachers always thought I was one of the smarter kids but my home life was terrible till I moved out. I didn't even have a vehical in a place you needed one.

Kick those people out of your life and better yourself. Ask your self who were the best people to ever have existed and why you aren't trying to be like them. The drive to do better is not a white privilage and I've found myself at the end of a noose unlike everyone around me. Color is no excuse. Acknowledging your color and living my it is supporting racism.

>BE ME
>APPLY AT SHITTY JOB
>SORRY user WE NEED TO MEET AFFIRMATIVEACTION QUOTA
>FUCK YOU WHITEY
>HAVE TO WALK THROUGH ENTIRE PLANT WITH 50 NON WHITE PEOPLE LAUGHING.

welp... There's my fucking white privilege

>maybe you meant how EASY it is to get a job or any form of financial aid as a straight white man with all the "diversity" and "inclusion" going around

If a white man and a black man applies for the same job with the same background and experience, the white man is still more likely to get that job. This is also documented.

>media is white
"whos media are you consuming again?
why is that?
you have things like BET and TMZ?
can't imagine the lawsuits from a WHITE entertainment channel"

I am not quite sure what you are saying here. I only stated that there is more incentives to do well for a certain group of people which is enforced through media.

> almost all rich and successful people on a large scale is white, and male.
so you're saying that there's no possible reason or factors for black people to be poor besides racism? it's all the racist system man, keepin the good brother down man"

Did I say that? Don't think I did. I am talking about incentives, and small and large advantages that play out as a privilege in society or your perception of it.

The ass-backward sorry perspective is that the 'privilege' there is that you, as a white person, are too good to be working there.

Nice anecdotal evidence, that destroyed and settled the debate. You win this time. White privilege myth debunked.

Black people are more likely to receive help is social programs of any find. Their collective community, culture, is terrible. I'm in southern Illinois and just found out from my coo friends they have to make arrest here for people pumping out their underage children. While on food stamps, aid, and housing. White people are just sitting at home drinking. There are no privilage differences on being able to raise children. Just how much shit you get away with. Being a pesk to your community is not a pro. Walking around rapping praphane music, constantly being disrespectfull, calling me a racist white person while in a group of black people, and calling the respectful and successful black people "WHITE".

WTF!, rejects the positive people in its race while having idles like MLK and Obama whom where very professional?

well, at least for actors it would be, you know, since there are more roles for white people.

>If a white man and a black man applies for the same job

when? 2009

>there is more incentives to do well for a certain group of people which is enforced through media

the media you choose to consume, how is that vague? you have BLACK media. it's just gang and drug shit, the incentives for minorities to act like gang members, fuck girls, and do drugs

>I am talking about incentives
then blacks and minorities have every incentive to stay poor, keep living in ghettos and refuse education

>it's a privilege to not having to use welfare, obviously.
not being allowed to, you mean,
whites don't get that privilege, especially if they don't have a family of six black children with a same sex husband/wife. a straight white male with no mental or physical deficiency would get nothing.

Any and all privileges I had came from my parents and their parents before them based on their hard work. Irish/Italian immigrants who came to this country with nothing like many other people and had to work and grind enough to provide for their families which were even bigger back then (4-8 kids). I can never recall an instance where someone gave me some privilege because I was white. I live in the most populate US state and white people are a minority here.

People who are more likely to receive help and are on social programs are generally worse of than the counterpart. Does not support your argument. They are there to even-out the playing field. If you don't need any assistance, you are probably better off than those who does. Therefore, generally speaking, it's not an advantage.

Don't really care about your bad experience with black people is a general representation of the group.

>There are no privilage differences on being able to raise children
I am having a hard to explaining these points when I am speaking to deaf ears. We agree that black people generally tend to be poor. Poor people generally live in poor communities, where more crime happens. Raising children in a more dangerous and shitty situation is a harder task, etc. The list of disadvantages goes on.

I don't care about calling you or anyone racist, but we need to ground our beliefs in something to understand the topic. Poor people have it harder. Black people tend to be poor. Rising out of poverty is difficult, regardless of skin color.

Pro jobs have a mandate and pass up more qualified white men, the person statistically more likely to want to support a family.

Go to a drama and acting class and see what color is there more and wonder my your opinion is stupid.

Go to a college, an office, a lecture, job fair, ect and wonder you your opinion on rich white people being so much more common.

It's not white privilage. What is wrong with the mass of black culture to hold itself back like this. The first step to a better future is children. Raise them to be the best they can and be the best you can.

>If you don't need any assistance
who decides that again?
hint: the same people you call discriminators

Society supports it thru news media coverage and entertainment media.

Sure society punishes criminals, but they also give them near celebrity status.

At least try to not lie.

Private companies still does this, give me a second and I'll send you some documentation. Though this should not be news.

The media tends to incentives white people for success and black people for crime and gang-behavior etc. I am not talking about personal choice, but tendencies.

>it's a privilege to not having to use welfare, obviously.
"not being allowed to, you mean,
whites don't get that privilege"

What does that even mean? Do you think poor white people from the same communities as the poor black people are denied the same programs?

Good to know you know your place.
You may leave now

infamy != celebrity

Is this the system your opposed too?

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It's the community that makes it dangerous. Why don't you blame them instead of being pure. I've been to 5 countries and poor does not mean unhappy. Poor people in other countries tend to be more happy cause they have to rely on community, compassion, love, being humane. They dont steal from eachother or harm others children black, brown, white, or yellow. The poor culture in western worlds kills itself.

Tell that to every loser who got their 15min by killing a bunch of people.
Or better yet, singing about killing a bunch of people!

>Private companies still does this
sure if they want a lawsuit
so because the media threw a bunch of shit in your face you will eat it an regurgitate their filth to others? it almost sounds like you enjoy telling others about these "celebrities" of yours,

The aid offices near me are all black wemon. They decide. They can push the paper work though by checking one box and not the other.

I'm choosing not to have children till 30+ so I am fully prepared to take care of them. How is that white privilage. I consistantly for most my like work and school 50-100hrs a week how is that white privilage?

A lot to unpack here. We need to change these trends and understand the root cause. A white man is more likely to be successful and more likely to support a family. This is also true for successful black men, but they are less common. Why? Let's take a look at all the other comments I left above. They tend to be poor, poor people tend to do more crime and have more unprotected and planned sex.

I don't think I got your other points about drama and acting classes.

My opinion on white rich people? I didn't say it was unfair or that the cause was oppression or racism. I was talking about the small incentives that may appear from for example having a idol or someone you look up to. There is more successful white people to look up to, and incentives that behavior.

Black cultures is damaging itself, sure. That still has nothing to with the original claim of white privilege. Everyone has different types of privileges.

You can't think that personal choice overruled society and pressure etc. That is statistically and generally not true.

If you don't need assistance, you are well off? Elaborate for me.

I grew up being 1/4 Spanish with a Spanish name their is no fucking benefit at all too being white i learned real quick to always claim my Spanish heritage.
People like you need to be taken out back and fucking shot.

Every situation is different. You can't compare a group like African Americans to for example poor mexicans. There is way to many factors into play to just compare the economic situation and draw conclusions.

nice troll thread, good to see one that is not a BBC thread

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It's very much real, user. I think everyone's being faggots about it, but you do have innate advantages for being white in a white country. There's no debate to be had.

Trouble is no ones also counting being rich as a priveledge that provides undue advantages to those born into wealth, in which there are people of all races. The cannons aimed solely at white people when there are other more destructive groups. Far more evil even..

the people who deem you worthy of assistance discriminate the same, inversely

>I consistently for most my like work and school 50-100hrs

what where you doing at the aid office again?

Worthy? You mean the people that probably would struggle without it compared to the counterpart that probably won't struggle without it? How is that discriminatory? And it applies to your economic status, not your race or traits.

all whites are better off economically because?
seems you've missed the point again.

No. You have to prove ill intent or active discrimination to sue. However, statistically speaking, white business owners tend to hire white employees. Just because it's technically illegal does not mean people can overcome personal bias or subjectivity. That is indeed impossible.

Once again, this does not only apply to black people as a negative. Old people, black people, newly wedded women etc.. is less likely to get hired than a white man.

All whites? Yes, I seem to have missed it severely. I have no idea what point you're making. Help me please.

This video proves that it does!
youtube.com/watch?v=dy3yJYzmuZg

If the culture wasn't damaging itself there would not be white privilage. So it has everything to do with it. My community college I went to has a problem with the majority of the black students dipping with fasfa money when it is released. Where people don't tell them to do that. And the white teachers are so disappointed not happy. I'm disappointed too. I'm in the boat of stop seeing color, gender, religion, and sometimes age. The only thing that makes people different is their drive to do better. Saying "I'm black and oppressed" is supporting racism.

My favorite person at the last power plant I was at was a old black man. Deion was poor and running from gangs in a bigger city as a kid and now he is a father and all his kids are in college, 3 I believe. He is a person I would want in my community and he is disappointed too.

With my mother when I was younger, with my x gf cause she was a social worker. Personally I'm not now.

>You have to prove ill intent or active discrimination to sue

so then there is none because you can't

>Old people, black people, newly wedded women etc.. is less likely to get hired

THAN SOMEONE WITH MORE MERIT OR ABILITY

how fucking dumb do you have to be to hire an old man to lift heavy objects?
or a person who cant count to do your accounting?

It's a racist idea lmao

I can't get enough of these personal stories every time I discuss with people like you. Though they are very interesting, it's a subjective take on a topic, and I can't find it relevant or convincing.

I have said it more than ten times in this thread alone. People agree and disagree on what white privilege is. Privilege however, can be something as simple as a small advantage. Black people also have these, but in other fields and areas. So white privilege is real, regardless of whether you like it or not, but you can argue on what it means and where it applies.

The black culture is damaging itself, but that does not mean the persons themself are trying to it. They are in a shitty situation where they are surrounded by poverty, crime and bad culture. Your personal choice (as a black person) can't solve that.

kek, I always hated the original. Glad to see someone finally corrected this.

Ehh. I think you fell of the train of thought here.. We are talking about tendencies when hiring. I am not talking about the specific job where you have to do heavy lifting..

I don't get the all white thing. Poor people are getting aid in different ways, like welfare and programs. Those poor people can be white, black or whatever. However, black people tend to be poor, whilst white people tend to be better off. That is an advantage, which aligns with the definition of privilege.

>Your personal choice (as a black person) can't solve that

hahahhahahahhahahhah

you choose to live there
you choose to get an education
you choose your profession
you choose to commit crimes

you missed the point then, under qualification != racism

I wish the world was that simple my friend. We are all products of the society and environment around us. Why aren't you a billionaire? Do you choose to not be?

Don’t lump me in with crybabies.
I get tired of listening to blacks whine about white privilege then brag about fucking each other over or gaming the system.
I had to pay for my schooling. All while watching “underprivileged” people get a free ride.
Only to waste it doing drugs or commuting felonies.

What's to debate about? it doesn't.

>you missed the point then, under qualification != racism

Women tend to apply for jobs more suitable, appropriate or even typical for women. Same with old people.

It's a passive ability, not a castable spell.

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Oh my 60 gorillian it's a shoah

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>I'm too good for this place
not the same thing as having a personal opinion about a workplace. He's probably not the only person who thinks their job is shitty, even specific to that place. Does everyone who thinks "this job is shitty" have their own respective privilage because of it?

my name is nobody
i chose this

FUCK YOU RETARD

PEICE OF SHIT FAGGOT FUCKING IDIOT

WHAAAAAAA I DIDN'T GET A JOB SO FUCK WHITEY!

NO CUCK!

FUCK YOU!

NO TALENT ASSCLOWN PEICE OF SHIT

GO ASK WHOEVER SHAT YOU OUT OF THEIR DISEASE RIDDEN CUNT TO YABE A FUCKING 30TH TRIMESTER ABORTION.

COCKSUCKER...

Your white privilege doesn't protect you from being humiliated, everyone gets that one. White privilege isn't a shield that blocks all human problems away and makes you an impenetrable force of white power.. it just lets you walk around a neighborhood at night and not get shot by a stranger who thinks your gonna rob him. The stranger's white btw.

Noted B-)

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are these opinions based where you are from? once again Sothern Illinois here and not a lot of people are rich here and the onse that are is due to a lot of schooling and hard work.

I'm not rich either. I don't waste money. I have my 97 civic still cause it runs fine. I only just got note 8 cause my note 4 died. I fix all my own shit, I flip cars, fixed everything I have tried to basically, and payed for myself to go to school to learn to weld. Its all started at 1 and at 25 I am a Union Welder as of the 19th. success takes time and people have forgotten that. in 4 years ill be making 60-80k and ill put myself through school again to be more like $200+ as a CWI with a engineering degree in material sciences. ill be 33 or 35 then.

I have never known white privilege. My father's family has millions but he left. I grew up hungry and was in the foster care system for 3 years. I'm only doing well cause its not in my nature to give up.

>personal life choices are a privilage
how about stop constantly telling black people they're destined to be poor and do crime you racist piece of shit. Stop blaming white people, and constantly dividing people by race. Fuck the left seriously.

Thank you.

Also unironically thebindustry standard where i am is to hire blacks. Mexicans if you have to but NEVER whites. We burn in the sun working 14 hours a day.

I agree whole hartedly I'm a SLAV in the west and I do quite well for myself because instead of blaming others I have a can do attitude and I put myself out there and work hard to get the places I go no matter what the job is and getting jobs is the easy part

Nice. But we have to try to get a common sense of reality. Poor people tend to remain poor. Regardless of skin color or traits. Black people tend to be poor. Think I've said it enough times.

>white privilage is not creating the problems within your community in the first place
basically?

I don't base my opinions or arguments on where I am from or what I have seen. I think that is inefficient and a disservice to the discussion. We can't talk about anything objectively or come to a mutual understanding if you have met an awful example of for example black people, and I have met an exceptional example of a upstanding black person, and we base everything on those encounters. If you catch my point.

You don't need to be aware of privilege to have it, and having it does not mean your life is going to be better than any random black person. But when we talk about tendencies, white people tend to be better off that black people. Which is an advantage and therefore a privilege. By definition of course.

White priveledge doesn't just mean wealth though user. There are of course retards who think white people get free money from the priveledge fairy, those individuals have blown it way out of proportion, but no.
It's the perception people have of you, it's the impression they get, it's your odds of success, your odds of getting a good job for working just as hard and so on.
It also wasn't intended (though it became that way) to detract from your personal struggle or imply your life is just plain easy. To put it more simply, no matter how rich or poor you are, if you put on a business suit and walk around town people who don't know you will assume you're a success. If you were black and did it, some will. And some others will think you're a drug dealer, pimp, robber, gangster, etc. That's the kind of thing white priveledge is about.

I fully understand if you don't understand it because of where you're from, but just know there was a huge game of broken telephone and the ideas behind it filtered through a lot of channels, some very racist, before they got to you.

I like your accountability, go you!

Race is not why black children do poorly in school. The most substantial factor which can be used to predict a child's success is whether or not that child came from a 2-parent home. Children who are raised by single mothers in the US are set up to fail. White privilege may exist, but the real problem is women who are having children without a partner to help them. The statistics don't lie.

So your argument is saying if I don a suit someone might mistakenly think I am a successful businessman (I am not) and if they are a black person wearing a suit they might think they are a pimp?

Pimps are successful businessmen and I would like to be a pimp. But your argument is that whites don't get seen as pimps? That's racist

And these children grow up in an environment that make them more likely to think abandoning their child is ok, or for girls, that it's normal and expected to raise a kid Alone.

It's blame the women time !!! Ding ding ding !!!

It's not race you dingdong. It'd be sketched if anyone is walking towards me in a shitty neighborhood regardless of race. I've walked home from the city bus and walked&talked with a random black guy from the bus who lives nearby. It's the neighborhoods. And problems of neighborhoods are products of shitty city planning and community choices. Moreso community choices, as there are poor communities in the world that are far less crime ridden, that have less support from governing bodies. Sorry, but it's not racism, and propagating the idea that it is only makes it worse.

Anyone ever tell you you're a goddamn smartass?
Have a meme.

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Your a foul person if you'd actually want to be a pimp. Go call your mother and tell her you love her you twisted fuck

He uhh.. he didn't..

Yeah, true. Not having a stable home has major disadvantages, but they also have a root cause. We shouldn't only point to a problem, but also look into why its happening, especially on such an alarming rate.

I also read that ghettos and poor communities have problems with led in their water, which is documented to have negative effects on children growing up, even affecting brain capacity. Obviously not only affecting black people, but as we have established, black people tend to live in those situations more often.

i get it. me and a black guy are in a room and people think better of me. But why does the commumity of black people continue to let this happen. has a great perspective, take responsibility of your community and yourself.

>You have a set of privileges that generally apply to white people
Wrong. White people have merely not created the same disadvantages for themselves that most other races have.

per capita.

Even if white privilege exists no self respecting white person will acknowledge that it does.
Fact is white privilege is not a real thing and never was.

You guys always use cool black people in your arguments and think that makes you not racist. Cool.

You're right, I don't disagree. Personal accountability is lacking. But there's also the emotional factor, it can be damn frustrating to feel like you're in the fable of Sisyphus.

Also remember fucking BET and their pop culture targets them as kids to get permanent customers and black sub culture really drives home the idea "no one's going to hire you" so they don't really have much to dream about or aspire too unless they had other positive role models in their lives.

I wouldn't hire niggers so it does exist

White people created the disadvantage for other races with their systematic racism. You are wayyyy to comfy with your own white privilege. Your statement is heinously racist as if the other races Wanted this. Wtf dude ??

refreshingly honest at least.

White privilege SHOULD exist. We are the ones making things work. We are the thinkers, doers, dreamers and civilisation builders.

It exists less and less these days. Which will be a problem for everyone.

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Even if that is true. It is still within the definition of privilege.. Any advantage for a specific group is a privilege. Regardless of how we arrived to that advantage.

If you want to know what White Privilege is, all you have to do is take an IQ test.

I went to college in Baltimore Maryland. Baltimore is 80 percent black. I was able to get a full ride to college just by maintaining a B average and coasting. Maryland has millions of dollars in college aid set aside specifically for black people that I couldn't touch and almost none of it ever gets used. Plenty of black kids were accepted into our colleges, but Maryland has a competency exam that you have to pass in Math and English before you can take college classes for credit. The black kids could not pass those competency tests. They would flunk out after a semester of remedial classes and then Maryland would fudge the books and claim that all the black kids who flunk out were not technically students because they were only taking remedial classes. They just weren't smart enough.

REEE It's society's fault that im poor reee.

>We are the thinkers, doers, dreamers and civilisation builders.

Yeah, I remember you and I meeting up yesterday solving huge problems and building another civilization.

Pat us on the back for being whiteys ;)

that is because white people are driven and actually smart

I get that and i'll raise you one. I will raise my children to understand science and maths to the best I can cause I think humanity is lacking in that and ignorant ideas are comming back. Flat earthers for example. To me its how I leave the world when I die and I'm to raise my children to be critical thinkers to solve those problems and their own. I feel accountable for the future of man kind and help it how I can. Keep you community in check at least and think about mankind, not just black and white.

I'm glad you believe that white people are so amazing, who built most of this country for you guys again ??

Those arn’t incentives user. They are role models. And they are almost completely different. Learn the definition of a word before you use it jackass. The mere fact that those two don’t conflate compeltely changes your argument

We don't point fingers to find someone to blame, but society has a large power over what you do, where you live and how you think.

>As a white person you have incentives from all sorts of media to preform in different ways. Almost all main characters in all forms of media is white, almost all rich and successful people on a large scale is white, and male.
This is not what a privilege is, nigga.

Nigs gonna nog, my boy. I think that since they're honestly too stupid to see (or want to see) anything outside of their rap music, shitty urban streetwear, and horrible speech mannerisms and broke. English. The ones that break out of poverty and handle themselves like regular fucking people are the ones I respect and treat just like anybody else. If they act like a nig, they get treated like a nig

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Sounds great! I hope you succeed and I wish you well.

Black women are motivated to have as many children as possible because they get a larger check every month. It also motivated them to find multiple fathers so they have child support coming from more sources. We need to end that system.

Perfect example of somebody attacking the persom and not the argument.

I love black people i hate niggas
Chris Rock said that

White privilege does exist, debate

>next time provide an actual argument you fucking retard

>who built most of this country for you guys again ??
white people

*but i hate niggas
fuck im retarded

>black people tend to live in those situations more often.
by their own doing.

I don't think ending child support is a solution. Maybe focus on incentivising black women to pursue jobs and careers is a better solution? Since having a successful career leads to less children, whilst less access to money actually leads to more children.

There may be something to that Lead theory. It can cause all kinds of behavioral and learning impairments in kids.

Yeah. If you're homeless, just by a house.

Unfortunately, instead of progress, we need to deal with other problems these days... namely the muslim invasion in Europe as well as the hordes of brown people trying to infiltrate the US

Yeah, I have heard about it. Though quite some time ago. Sounds like a really shitty thing and someone should look into that.

Doesn’t telling black people that they are victims only reinforced that social stigma? Telling black people they are victims of racism and that they will never be able to succeed creates that stigma that prevents them from being able to introspect. There are far more left wing people perpetuating that notion than right wing people.
Are leftists the cause of racism?

Thanks for taking part in this experiment. Your statement has been noted.

if i wanted to control people i would tell that they are victims, and that I'm fighting for them to not be a victim.

>Just get out of the inner city you morons
>I don't know what I'm talking about therefore I over simplify things to make a half asses argument

My incentive would be to sterilize them after one child. It seems barbaric, but sterilizing black women in the US would cut violent crime by 80 percent in in a single generation.

I don't think we see eye to eye on these issues. If we can't stop bombing and attacking these countries, making the civilians on the run to other countries for safety, we won't solve your problem. People are desperate, and will do whatever to survive.

Sound exactly like left wing people to me

>If you're homeless, just by a house.
Exactly! Section 8 housing does in fact exist, along with medicaid, food stamps, CHIP insurance, cash assistance, and whatever else I missed.

You do you :) I think I have a bit more realistic suggestion though.

How would that solve your problem? They would still be poor, living in poor communities and on the several forms of welfare and support you mentioned.

This whole thread is just full of blatantly racist people
>Sterilize the blacks and the crime will go away
Jfc

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>Just get out of the inner city you morons
how about stop relying on white people to bail niggers out of abject poverty. Oh wait, that requires black people to stop killing each other and selling drugs. I forgot, silly me, black people dont have agency, my bad.

Shouldn't we also?

Maybe, but thankfully there is people responding seriously to what they claim.

Name one privilege white people have. You keep saying this over and over but always fail to mention one specific privilege.

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>White people created the disadvantage for other races with their systematic racism.
Wrong again, the system is not racist. How can it possibly be, when the government is the system, and the highest levels of government have all been held by black people at some point? If "the system" was against them, how were they even allowed to be on the ballot to be representatives, senators and even President?

>How would that solve your problem?
Solved the homeless problem that was brought up pretty damn quick. From there they could get a minimum wage job and still retain a lot of their welfare benefits. The ladder can be climbed from there.

Yikes you can't be helped

Maybe niggers should stop shooting themselves in the foot then. They have no problems here they have not created for themselves. And yes, that includes slavery.

Let it go. It's just more self-loathing and mental gymnastics to explain how much of a failure they are.

According to a 2017 report by theU.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, farright wingviolent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73%) while radicalIslamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27%)".
Banning Muslims and trying to build a wall but letting white supremacists commit 73% of terrorist attacks since 9.12.2001 seems like an issue.

Go out and help black people instead of theory crafting how to fix our broken system.

>African Americans have been targeted throughout history
Yeah, by African Americans, and Democrats who have been telling them for 60 years that the problems they cause for themselves, aren't their fault.

The truth is racist sweetie, welcome to the real world.

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You think personal choice outdoes society and environment? Statistics and generalities don't agree with you.

Poor people tend to remain poor. Poor people tend to do more crime. Poor people tend to have more unprotected sex. Getting out of a circle like that is extremely difficult and not realistic for MOST poor people.

>Go out and help black people you white devil, they deserve your money.
So much for white privilege. You're proving me right

>Just get out of the inner city you morons
Except that's what I did. I grew up in the housing projects in the Bronx. My biggest obstacle wasn't White people, it was other Blacks and Hispanics. Because of my skin color, White people always offered me scholarships and free shit. It was always Black people telling me I wasn't good enough unless I "acted my race". Sorry but where I'm from most people love being there.

Maybe because 50% of criminals in America...are black?

youtube.com/watch?v=igLJIzCRnbw

'Find the truth, don't be afraid
Wake up, and take my hand
Become legend'

How can you actually believe that? We still have black people alive that was directly affected by laws and norms limiting their opportunity and rate of success.

Obama was half white, y'all should still love some part of him. There's a lot of stuff you are brushing past and just cause we had a black president doesn't mean systematic oppression don't exist. I can assume your white by your response and you will deny any sort of foul play because you haven't felt it. You have yet to be oppressed by the system and so you worry not about it. That's some white privilege.

>We still have black people alive
In 200 years you will say this exact same argument. By the way, I'm

Funny because the image implies blacks are inherently inferior because they need more help.

Black people tend to be poor. Black people tend to be young. (Lower median age)

Poor people tend to do more crime. Young people tend to do more crime.

40% of people food assistance are white.

>You think personal choice outdoes society and environment?
They go in tandem with each other. I dont expect a nigger to become a CEO, but I expect him to get off his lazy ass and work some type of fucking job. Btw, poverty and crime are inversely related.

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Red Lining

That's great. But I am talking about specific laws. Jim Crows etc. I don't really care about your personal subjective stories.

Because they fell for voting for the people that enacted those laws in the first place. Black people overwhelmingly vote Democrat, and those racist laws, Jim Crow, segregation, etc, were enacted by Democrats. Black people keep those scumbags in power. As soon as they STOP DOING THAT I'll have some sympathy.

>40% of people food assistance are white
So white people are underrepresented when it comes to food assistance, and non whites take more per capita? Thanks for clarifying

It’s a privilege to not use welfare programs? How fucking stupid can a person get? Holy shit you’re out in an entire galaxy of mental retardation.

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>That's great. But I am talking about specific laws. Jim Crows etc
Can you read? In 200 years you will keep shouting JIM CROW as an excuse to not get off your lazy ass. Maybe you shouldn't have fucked around and went to school instead.

East Asians out perform whites in the US both in education and wealth. Yet they are a minority.

Maybe it has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with culture and IQ.

Yes? Which proves my point. If you are poor, you are more likely to do crime regardless of race, color or traits. It's a society thing, not a nature thing.

That's a lie. With a little research, you too can stop spouting obvious lies. ;)

Obama was the worst President in history but he was still President. Where was "the system" that supposedly should have prevented him from succeeding? Should have been easy, he was woefully under qualified to serve in office, he was a junior senator for 2 years and before that a lawyer, it should have been easy for "the system" to keep him out. But...it didn't. I guess "the system" isn't racist.

You did not understand the chart at all then, your point is disproven by the evidence. As poverty goes DOWN, crime goes UP.

Yeah it means you're well off enough to not have to take whitey money you absolute fucking mong

No. They would be doing it to themselves if they knew what they were doing. If they voted for the person they thought were going to help them, but was misled, they weren't actively shooting themselves in the foot.

The black community needs more people like you who can see the truth. Congratulations on getting ahead in life and escaping a vicious cycle. If that comes off as condescending I apologize, I genuinely do find your accomplishments admirable.

I can. Can you? I am saying people who lived under Jim Crow still walks around. They don't in 200 years. That's how time works.

yango

>We still have black people alive that was directly affected by laws and norms limiting their opportunity and rate of success.
Israel practices Jim Crow types of discrimination TODAY against muslims. Will you call them out on it, or are you afraid of being viewed as anti-semitic?

IQ tests are an example of white privilege since it a biased tests designed to make whites look smarter, and therefore superior. But Asians do well on it too, but Asians aren't the ones being made to look stupid so...
Research before you post obvious bullshit.

That's no excuse, in the slightest. There are FAR more poor young whites than blacks, yet you pick any random white guy in America and any random black guy, even accounting for population differences the black guy is still 200 times more likely to have committed aggravated assault.

I think it's pretty simple to understand. No reason to get upset.

If don't need help, you are probably better off than those who does. Which generally speaking would mean you have a advantage, which by definition is a privilege.

People feel safer around whites than blacks because 13% of the population commit half of the murders.

Blacks go to jail longer because they on average are repeat offenders compared to whites.

Whites are economically more successful than blacks due to IQ and culture. Average black IQ is 85-90 average IQ of whites is 100.

Just like East Asians and Jews out perform whites. Due to IQ and culture.

There is no white privilege. The only reason people think that is because of Post Modernism pushing this identity political agenda.

>WHITE PRIVILEGE does NOT exist.Debate.

White privilege does exist. But so does minority privilege (college admission quotas, diversity hiring quotas, entitlement programs, Section 8 housing). So, in the real world, white privilege is a very complex thing. I would say that the strength and level of white privilege now is at the lowest it's ever been in the history of the United States. If you are a minority, 2019 is the best time to be here since 1776.

Also, people vote with their feet. For all the bitching, blacks, Hispanics and Asians are not leaving the country. They're entering it. So, either America is a pretty groovy place for these groups or these groups are monumentally stupid.

If only black people saw that as a privilege, then maybe we'd make some serious progress towards social equity. You must not be black.

Read this
theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/jussie-smollett-story-shows-rise-victimhood-culture/583099/

In particular this line:
"Only in an America in which matters of race are not as utterly irredeemable as we are often told could things get to the point that someone would pretend to be tortured in this way, acting oppression rather than suffering it, seeking to play a prophet out of a sense that playing a singer on television is not as glamorous as getting beaten up by white guys. That anyone could feel this way and act on it in the public sphere is, in a twisted way, a kind of privilege, and a sign that we have come further on race than we are often comfortable admitting."

I am trying my hardest but my biggest enemy is OTHER BLACKS and coddling idiots talking about "muh privilege". I am so done with this mindset and that is why never can we improve.

And in 200 years when those people around, people like you will still be shouting JIM CROW and SLAVERY. You doom yourself to failure.

Laws that were enacted by the same political group blacks have overwhelmingly supported for 60 years. They cause their own problems.

>So, in the real world, white privilege is a very complex thing.
Please elaborate if you can.

That's true though.

>Post Modernism

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But that simply isn't true. The majority of people in jail or with a record come from the lower-class. Regardless of race or color. Your graph doesn't disprove that.

I am more concerned about Americans since I live in the US. But yeah, that sounds shitty?

Ignorance is no excuse, especially since for decades the truth has been readily available for anyone who gives enough of a shit to look. Black people choose not to. Until they wake up, they get no sympathy from me.

I don't agree with the idea; but didn't your statement prove its self?

13% of the population commit half of the murders.
Blacks commit crime at a higher rate than any other demographic.

You're talking to yourself at this point buddy, believe the systems racist or don't. Whatever I say doesn't matter ! You don't have to worry cause you're white ! You wouldn't be able to understand the plight of minorities unless you where one. That's why this whole thread is meaningless, none of you are willing to see it from the other side of the coin. This is coming from a white person by the way. A privileged white person.

Even if you look at wealthier people.

Wealthy blacks commit crime at a higher rate than wealthy whites or Asians.

>The majority of people in jail or with a record come from the lower-class.
That's because the majority of people in jail are black, plain and simple. Plenty of poor white folk, but they're not in jail.

And coming from an unprivileged Black person, you are a fool.

>More
We deal in per capita. Yes, its overwhelming that 15% of the population does over 50% of some types of criminality, but we can explain it by looking at the group, their tendencies and stats.

But sure, its insane.

If you are white yourself, and against white privilege, you are not only a traitor, you are also closing both eyes to reality.
White privilege is what brought the world to the amazing progress we as a species have made.
Put a few feminists, Somalians, and Arabs in power... see what happens.
Actually, no, lets not do that!

>But yeah, that sounds shitty?
Well guess what, that makes you an anti-semite, because you are not allowed to criticize Jews or Israel at all, you bigot.

Read up on the definition of privilege. ANY advantage is a privilege.

>America in which matters of race are not as utterly irredeemable
I take umbrage with that, suggesting that for some reason this specific problem is not one America will ever rise above. There is still racism here, don't doubt that for a second, but it's not systemic, it's a cycle of violence, crime and hopelessness that blacks are told they can't escape because muh whitey, to the point they turn on blacks who DO escape it. Why? Because it exposes their own shortcomings that they couldn't manage to do the same.

I hope your white friends notice you !!

>And in 200 years when those people around, people like you will still be shouting JIM CROW and SLAVERY. You doom yourself to failure

No? I can point to a specific thing that negatively affected a group of people. I have no idea what the US will look like in 200 years.

Wait, so by working hard, working for free, and making significant sacrifice in my life to build marketable skills and making myself marketable in some way so I can earn a living is privilege? I would say people who refuse to even put effort into themselves and just collect their gibs checks are the privileged in this case for getting free gibs for zero effort.

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When 13% of the population stops committing half of the murders, then we can talk.

It has nothing to do with being a minority either. East Asians are an even smaller minority group, yet they commit less crime than any other demographic.

But they didn't know it. It's not actively shooting yourself if you actually got fooled.

You being thirsty, asking me for water, but receiving poison is not on you.

The very concept of equity is prejudiced because it assumes a race-based natural disadvantage. I believe blacks can rise to any heights their talents can support, they are not inherently inferior to anyone, they CHOOSE to keep themselves disadvantaged.

Maybe Blacks are too dumb to earn the privilege that White, East Asian, and Jewish demographics are able to provide for their kind.

Kek at this dumb uneducated crybaby white nigger. TMZ? What the fuck does a show about celebrity gossip have to do with blacks?
You’re just a fucking crybaby gibbering about nothing like all the dumb uneducated white niggers. The only people who cry about AA or “inclusion” are fat worthless uneducated white nigger losers.

Come to the hood and knock on our doors white boy. Try to sell us something. You clearly don't understand our community.

Which is fine. But even after you say that, I am sure you think it's easier or even more interesting for you to look up information or data to find solutions than a black mother of five without internet-connections in the deepest of ghettos.

So do white people. How many times are pedophiles portrayed as black in the media. Almost never despite the vast majority of pedophilic crimed being committed by blacks.

Your racist as fuck dude, how do you feel about all the white school shooters ??

>You don't have to worry cause you're white !
And you don't have to worry regardless of your race, you might SEE it otherwise, but you are WRONG to see it that way. Your "perspective" is wrong, your opinions are wrong, because the story you've been fed about privilege and racism is wrong. You simply CHOSE to believe that story because it's easier than admitting it's your own fucking fault to begin with.

Bullshit as long as you keep playing the victim you won't amount to anything. Stop blaming the white man for your troubles and make something oit of yourself

>Wait, so by working hard, working for free, and making significant sacrifice in my life to build marketable skills and making myself marketable in some way so I can earn a living is privilege?
White privilege indeed sir!

Btw just want to drop this itt for all of the wypipo who virtue signal so hard in defense of their black friends.

theroot.com/it-s-official-white-allies-are-the-worst-wypipo-in-the-1797481427

Turns out black people hate YOU the most! Even more than evil white supremacists like Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin even! Stay C U C K E D whiteboi

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Learn English, you worthless uneducated white nigger. Your gibberish was absolute retard screeching. No one cares that you’re a dumb white nigger welder who thinks he’s a success. Kek

Yes, but wealthy blacks commit less crime than poor whites. The better your economic situation, the less likely you are to commit crime.

No, don't show me the fake FBI stat that someone made on twitter.

No one cares for your backstory user, go read up the thread and maybe kill yourself

Yeah the 200x thing accounted for per capita. Blacks commit SO MUCH crime, that despite their much lower population they're still that much more likely to be violent.

The majority of school shooters are black.

Sooo..he was behind of all that..

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What a fucking 'nothing' answer

There is racism everywhere and it's not going to be eradicated. And that is a NATURAL THING. We see it in all races. But yes it's true, the stories I hear about how evil White people are, told by Blacks, is probably the only incidence I've experienced. It's funny how people mention how bad the "inner city" is, but they never mention that it's only White people who try and do anything to pull us out of it. Other Blacks keep us down because they parrot how "White people are evil" and other crap. So no, I don't think America will ever rise out of racism, solely because at least one side will cling to it as a paradoxical safety blanket in this victim culture mindset we are in.

Funny how your sentiment goes from holier than thou to jabs at race when called out. But it's good you show your true nature.

And it seems you have no idea what the US looks like now. There has been no better time to be Black in the US than today.

What ?

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Criminals in general, regardless of color, tend to be poor, young and male. Those are groups that commit more crime than other groups, and they overlap with each other. Being all three of those makes it more likely to commit crime. Generally speaking of course.

Since the majority of those people are on pharmaceutical drugs I would say that's the issue.

How is it racist to state a fact.
It is FACT that blacks 13% of the population commit half of all murders in the country.

The also commit the most aggravated assault and many other crimes yet being such a low percentage of the population.

For they past 20 years at least they could have known, if they cared enough to look and didn't dismiss the people that have been TELLING THEM because they assumed those people were just racist.

Your got a source on that one ???

Yeah, I don't really care what people think about me. I am more concerned about being correct or holding a fair position.
For example. I think Islam is fucking terrible, it's a shitty excuse of a religion, but Muslims are people, and I treat them as such.

Yeah because those welfare phones don;t have google. Oh wait... Are you fucking kidding? It's genuinely racist as fuck to assume these people CAN'T manage to use the internet, YOU are assuming they're deficient.

The point is Blacks on average commit the most crime out of any demographic regardless of economic.

You wanna talk about FBI stats? How about the fact the FBI classifies some brown Hispanics and blacks as white people in their statistics. So really the numbers are in even more favor of whites committing less crime than these two demographics.

Sure, maybe that's true. But I'd rather look at why its happening, and then doing something to solve it or work towards a solution. It's better for all parts if black preform better.

ITT: white people who are so insecure they feel like they need to defend all whites lul

White people got it easy and they don't even know. we all live segregated, and they think that's just normality. %90 of whites will never even go to a ghetto, defend yourself all you want whitey, your talk is all baseless and your knowledge is all imagined. Nothing will change by us arguing on the internet because you'll never set foot in a ghetto, let alone spend any time to learn about the pain caused in it, faggot.

posting itt: white losers who don't know how to take advantage of starting life on 2nd base.

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>YOU are assuming they're deficient.
Not him, but this is what I'm getting at. All these coddling idiots who treat Blacks as completely unable to change or take control of their actions, who are totally "not racist" by the way, are perhaps the most racist.

We have internet, bro.

Yes. I don't think we can deny that it's an insane number or stat. But I'd rather work towards something to solve it than calling them lazy and irresponsible. You can't get to that level of crime just being being shitty. Its a culture and situation that no one could solve on their own.

>There is racism everywhere and it's not going to be eradicated
Not as long as blacks keep acting like entitled, childish, violent thugs who provoke the very racism they claim to despise. They bring it on themselves.

I agree. Unfortunately IQ seems to be mostly genetic and very little environmental.

It's hard to help a group of people when the average IQ in Africa is around 70 and African Americans around 85.

>Its a culture and situation that no one could solve on their own.
Asians in America between 1850 and 1960.

During the past 20 years, Dems has been the ones to implement programs and enforce welfare that positively impacts black people.

I realize the truth may hurt, but it's still truth.

Nah, go fuck yourself. This entire thread is full of moronic bullshit saying “any advantage is a privilege”. That’s just simple self pity and boo hooing. There are scholarships for everything possible from being black to being a woman to having red hair. You won’t find one for being white or being male. Having that sort of shit is privilege. Gibs are privilege. Affirmative action is privilege. You are just a dumb whiny turbo nigger.

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>Yeah, I don't really care what people think about me.
Neither did Ilhan Omar when she criticized AIPAC, but she had to quickly apologize for exercising her right to freedom of speech, and so will you, you anti-semite.

I am speaking in tendencies or generalities. It's probably not important for a poor person what's going on when they're more focused on getting a meal, housing or clean clothes.

Why the fuck would you want to go into a ghetto when black on white crime is 8 time higher than white on black crime despite the population difference?

Yah, lets just go to an area that I have a much higher risk of being assaulted.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

>But I'd rather work towards something to solve it than calling them lazy and irresponsible.
And you can do that, easily! The solution is literally one thing. VOTE REPUBLICAN 100% OF THE TIME.

Yes, they have a VERY specific and special situation going for them. Not only do they fall into all the categories that would make you more likely to commit crime, but they tend to live in ghettoized areas, some think crime is cool and the list goes on. We can't only compare the economical aspect on such a large topic. They have a unique situation.

I’d love to see where the fbi is classifying blacks as whites.

When I lived in the projects, no one was worried about getting a meal, housing, or clean clothes. Those are THIRD WORLD problems that you refuse to acknowledge because "I live in America". People wanted TVs and Nikes when I grew up. Food, housing, and clothes were already taken care of.

This. And people today are STILL openly racist as fuck to chinks.

Its an example.

And they still choose to give ghetto blacks free internet-capable phones, with which blacks can access the sum and total of human knowledge and history. Maybe they should...GET ON THAT ALREADY.

White people want to be oppressed SO BADLY HOLY FUCK. You don't get the scholarship cause you don't need it ! If your poor then the government will help you but otherwise good luck bucko cause most white men go to college no worries off of daddies money !

white male here: life's been easy for me so far.
I think many of you are just fuck ups. Should have been better students, but now you're just trash of a different shade.

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Since the Welfare state was started back in the 30s. Single motherhood rates in the black community went from 20% up to 70%.

All the welfare programs have done is created a dependent class of people that will be generational dependent on the government.

This has done nothing but hurt the black community.

>Unfortunately IQ seems to be mostly genetic and very little environmental.

Show me something that enforces that notion please. I have only found counter evidence to that claim.

If blacks weren't constantly told it wasn't their fault, they might just feel bothered enough to find out who's fault it is. The answer is retard-simple. If a politician has a (D) next to his name on TV, it's his fucking fault.

No, you make assumptions about us that are untrue.

Let me tell you about white privilege:
I was born and raised rich. Old money rich. In Austria.
Went to Los Angeles for 12 years to study and party and have fun.
Never worked a single day in my life.
Went back to Austria.
I do what I like, and I now use all my time for making sure the white races of Europe and America will keep prospering. Fuck the rest. Fuck failed states and their problems.
They haven't managed to create something that works. They haven't for thousands of years. What's more, they have been shown the way, and even then, they couldn't manage.
We will not help them or ourselves by adopting them.

Let me tell you about white privilege: it is a necessity for the planet.

The situation that African Americans are in is unique. You can compare it to others, but there are far too many elements in play.

Sure.

where in Austria?

Dude, you're arguing with a white liberal, you wont get it through their head that blacks actually have more social privilege than white people.

>generally apply to white people
Thus should mention this about ALL white people
>Tons of negative traits that generally apply to black people
> OMG IT'S RACIST TO LABEL BLACK PEOPLE BY THOSE NEGATIVE TRAITS!!!

Are white privilege people so literally retarded that they can't see the hypocrisy that white privilege is? It is literal racism in response to racism. It's no fucking wonder that normal people don't buy your SJW bullshit. You can NEVER fix something by employing the same exact thing. You can NEVER fix racism by using racism in response to it. Even if SJW people are in power and able to enforce their bullshit, all you're doing is creating 100x worse racism bubbling up inside people sick of your shit until it explodes. Because it sure as fuck isn't doing anything to actually address racism.

That's because 72% of the population is white you dingus. Of course there is going to be more white people on TV there are more white people apply for the jobs.

So you just ignore the entire student loan crisis that’s ruining whypipos lives? Yeah daddy’s money.

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Vienna. Why?

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Your victim brain will lead your to ruin.

You're right, I guess I'll take my leave. No point anymore when these people are so ingrained in their beliefs. I can show them what is true and what isn't and they will find a way to convince themselves that I'm wrong.

The ignorance on this one, holy fuck.

No most white people don't have their parents paying for their college. That's why they all have student loan debt.

Despite us not getting as many scholarships. Whites also have to score much higher than blacks or Hispanics to get into the same university. Asians even higher than those 3 demographics.

The only people that have actual privilege today, and by privilege I mean shit not earned. As in Affirmative action is blacks and Hispanics.

Society treat these groups as if they just can't compete against whites or Asians and have to be graded on a different standard.

If you are a white male you have to out perform women and people of color to get to the same position.

and yet they're generally at the bottom of the social hierarchy. You're trying to have it both ways with them.

But that is documented to not be true. Republicans think it's up to personal choice, but people tend to do better with assistance or welfare. We should incentives people to do better, sure. But we also need to realise that the situation they are in is extremely complex and not just something that will go away by giving rich people tax cuts and cutting healthcare etc.

Do you think that was okay? Do you think you actually have freedom of speech in this country? As a white person no less? Genuinely curious

Only a worthless uneducated white nigger tries to pass the lie that they were told they didn’t get a job or promotion because of quotas that don’t actually exist. No boss or employer would ever risk litigation by telling a candidate that. This is the classic white nigger version of the ghetto nigger “the man keepin me down” excuse why they are such failures.

Privilege is real, but it's stupid to apply it to race. Are you going to tell me that most black celebrities and athletes don't have a sense of "privilege"? The whole concept of identity politics is completely regressive.

That whole #walkaway thing suggests otherwise, people are (slowly) starting to see the truth.

Sounds like lived in a pretty decent situation then. Glad to hear it.

You cannot possibly be American with this horrifying gibberish nonsense. Learn the language stupid

>Sounds like lived in a pretty decent situation then.
>when I lived in the projects
You're retarded

When you give up they think they've won. Every fight, every argument, is worthy of being pushed until the wrong side (Liberals) are crying in the fucking dirt begging for forgiveness because they've realized they were wrong to disagree with you in the first place.

just curious. I was there recently on vacation. Spent a few days in Vienna and a week in the Tyrol. Almost got abandoned in Fliess because there's only like 2 buses in and out during the summer.

Are you a billionaire? Why not? Do you chose not to be? Or maybe it's a bit more complex than that. You don't always have full control over everything. The more obstacles in your road, the less likely you are to travel.

White privilege is the seemingly innocuous beginning to all identity politics. As soon as you start ranking people based upon their "Privilege" it is only a matter of time before people start advocating taxing those people which leads eventually to the gulag. Idiot people ignorant of history are the only ones thinking this is an idea that can only lead to positive outcomes. Ignore them.

Found the dumb uneducated white nigger mad cuz he got denied for welfare.

youi know white brought blacks here right?

>and yet they're generally at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
I can put as many training wheels on the bike for you so you wont fall over, but if you refuse to even start pedaling, or hell, even get on the fucking bike at all, there's not much I can do for you.

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Did you notice that Vienna is overrun by dark skinned imbeciles?

White people are far more attractive. That's why all the commercials you see these days are mixed couples....black guys don't want to be with black women and the jews who run hollywood obey.

masterpiece of summary

I'm about 99% sure this is bait, but in case it's not: a lot of white people are poor, myself included, we didn't have "daddies money" or any other money to use for school. As such, we staked our financial futures on loans to get us through school which may pay off if we pass, and if we left school, would undoubtedly leave us destitute throughout our future. I didn't make it, and am, as I said, destitute. That's white privilege. You can fuck up your life, and unlike anyone from any other race, the blame gets placed on you (as it should be) rather than on everyone else

Sure. I think there is other factors to it as well. But I'd rather focus on making sure people don't "need" welfare. Either by providing decent employment, education or access to these. Incentivising poor people is smart, but removing welfare probably isn't. As its going to severely affect people that depend on it, not only due to laziness.

But it's true. If it's not, you have to pick one. Either whites experience privilege or whites are discriminated against.

oh please do enumerate the many training wheels that are on a population that was legally oppressed until my father was in high school.

It's documented to be absolutely true. Every Jim Crow law was enacted by Democrats. Victim culture that tells blacks it's not their fault is entirely Democrat. Virtue signaling and thinking of people in terms of demographics is entirely Democrat.

In 1945, Detroit was a bustling metropolis and center of industry.
In 1945, Hiroshima was a nuclear ruin.
Today, Detroit is like something out of Mad Max
Today, Hiroshima is a beautiful modern city.
The difference? Detroit has been in Democrat control for 60 years. In the long run, it's better to be nuked.

I'll fight in my own way. It feels like I'm being trolled ITT, so no point here

not even a little. Overwhelmingly white, with some Asian tourists thrown in for good measure.

Oh and 3 loud and stinky gypsies on the train from Innsbruck to Vienna.

At my company the most definitely have diversity quotas.
Some of my friends have the same problem where they work at.

Dont got that one. If you are born with black parents in a ghetto, its not your fault. Ghettos were created during segregation by law then norms.

Its not an assumption, it's a super specific example of a person that might not find interest in looking up data or stats.

>pretending union busting had absolutely no effect on Detroit's decline
you have a Barry Goldwater sex doll don't you?

Crime and violence are a choice,and so is buying into the lie that is victim culture.

The Jews are just trying to wipe out the white race through promoting race mixing.

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white people are so insanely ignorant its hilarious. if you flipped sides of history white people would literally be in the same exact predicament lmfao poor and ignorant.

>legally oppressed
Being denied access to white people is not oppression. Black people are not entitled to white people's resources. The black family unit was OBJECTIVELY better in the 50's than today. Writhe in your white guilt some more cuck.

You haven't seen Vienna then, meaning all of it. Westbahnhof area for example.. and such

But that's a good thing.

Kek at your “schooling”. You can’t even form a single coherent sentence in any of your posts. What kind of “schooling” did you receive while free college niggers were “commuting” felonies? You’re one side of the same nigger coin you cry about.

Besides the fact that on average whites have an IQ 15-20 points higher?

>Your victim brain will lead your to ruin.
Its not a victim brain, I generally think people are subjected to their environment and society. You can strive to overcome obstacles, but its generally speaking not an easy task, for any person regardless of race or color.

So you're saying that black people are uneducated? My mom worked her ass off in college so we wouldn't be stuck in the ghetto. True, the government paid her to do it, but she still worked through college. You are a racist.

No I don't like censorship. I don't know a lot about that specific case, but it sounds bad.

Choosing to not do what's needed to get out of the ghetto IS a choice, and blacks shame other blacks that choose to study and work hard to escape.

If you or your family never worried about food, housing, clean clothes and were more focused on getting a tv or new shoes, you had a pretty decent situation.

So, you basically know nothing about the connection between authority and responsibility.

Nope. Whites evolved in a part of the world that required delayed gratification, because winter is a thing in Europe. It's not a thing in Africa.

I remember in school black kids would call other black kids who studied alot and did well in school uncle toms or that they were acting white.

I think that African American culture and lack of parental figures is what's wrong with the black community today.

If your roll model is some ghetto fuck rapper, you probs won't do much with your life.

Sure. I'm not saying dems are gods. Get the people in control there out. They are doing a shit job. But also take into consideration that there might be more factors than just dems being in control. Things can be more complex than that.
A company can fail without the CEO being at fault.

So explain the failures of modern Africa now that that is no longer true.

that's the station we took to go to Florence. I might have seen one or two non-white people there. I think you're engaging in bit of a racial panic there user.

It is a victim brain, because you refuse to see that that environment and society is not something blacks are forced to take part in, they can choose to leave.

maybe you are confused about which comes first. Is a person in jail because they are poor? Or are they poor because they make terrible choices in life, soe which lead to being poor and others that lead to being in jail?

when white people think having a hard life means they dont have white privelege lmfaoo

Listen more closely to Jews in the future. Im not even trying to tell you what they're saying is "bad" by any definition, that's for you to decide. Just be aware of who is and who isn't a jew when someone is talking, it'll make a world of difference.

>A black veteran woman is the most hirable person
Reality does not reflect this.
>Professions get white males last
Reality also does not reflect this. The rust belt, where most jobs like welders such as yourself exist, hires white males at a greater than representative rate (that is to say whites are 72% of the us population and around 80% of hires in the rust belt, and males are just about half the us population and FAR greater than 50% hires in the rust belt).

I know it's fucking stupid to say to a people "hey, you've had 51 years years to catch up to the rest of us, why haven't you done so?"

Sure, doing crime is something you chose to do. But generally speaking, we can understand which groups are more likely to do it. Looking at these factors, it's not shocking that blacks do more crime. But yeah, we should fix it.

You must have mr quads
And in that area, you saw predominantly white people?

Except it's never in that order. It was trade your foodstamps for money, blow it on Nikes, and complain about food later. You and I both know there is a lack of priorities, don't play that fucking game.

Black people tend to be uneducated, yes. I'm glad to hear about your personal example, very nice. Doesn't really add anything to the discussion though.

>they can choose to leave.
>
some niggers legitimately can't though. They are too low IQ and too prone to violence, and due to the amount of automation we are experiencing, there are legitimately no roles for some niggers other than leeching off the government. He does have a point, even if it wasn't the one he was trying to make.

quints, i am sry

So you admit you're a racist. The Root was right. White allies are the worst racists.

If everything is that easy. Why aren't you a billionaire? You are a product of your surrounding, and sure underdog-stories are cool, but not the norm or average by any means.

It's not how the world works. If it was an easy task to stand up, leave, have enough money to buy a house in a better neighborhood, have stable income etc, people would do it.

Why aren't you a billionaire?

user, I live here in this city. We have about 50% school children who can't speak German fluently in Vienna. Our prison is filled with almost 80% non Austrians.
We have terror attacks, we have knife stabbing from Afghans and such.
Every other person on the streets, when you walk around in the less rich areas, is non white.
I am glad you had a positive experience!
But it isn't like that.

Yeah I don't follow conspiracies.

I'll let the experiences of someone who was actually there do it for me.

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I am only talking about tendencies of specific groups of people.

>But also take into consideration that there might be more factors than just dems being in control.
They are 90% of the problem. There is little difference now between the DNC and actual Bond villains.

You should, because he is right. We do want to erase white people.

Sure there is. But I want to know why, and how we can solve it. I don't think removing healthcare, welfare and programs for youth is the way to go.

They can choose to not have a criminal record and make themselves more hire-able, make money, save it and not waste is on nonsense that only impresses niggers, then...MOVE AWAY from the fucking ghetto.

It's exactly how the world works.

What, you don't think Jews talk? What's the conspiracy here? Do you not take into consideration the race of a person when they speak in a certain way of other races? Why wouldn't you?

Yeah, africa is shit. Africans are idiots, but this is America.

Its a factual claim. Black people tend to be less educated than other people. I want to find a way to solve that. Start by incentivising and giving access to better education etc.

>They can choose to not have a criminal record
>
I honestly don't know that for certain dude. They can't seem to help themselves. Of course not all, but the lower half of the 85 IQ curve...it's bizarre.

I don't buy into all of that. Sure there is corruption, shitty people and probably a lot of personal interest in play. But I don't think any party is inherently evil or incapable. Generally think the american political-system is fucked.

Thanks for clarifying.

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No, more like "you've had 60 years to stop being brainless thugs who glorify crime and disregard for consequences, maybe you should get on that." I'm not saying we should expect them to be a culture of model citizens, just not being utter scum would be great though.

We already have that, you mayonaise faggot. That's why we are educated.

Trump with his wall... can't we build a wall around the whole continent of Africa already?

Why aren't you a billionaire? Can't you just chose to be that?

I don't think Jews are evil.

Its funny how, black people does worse than whites, because they are lazy. But Jews does better because of a grand conspiracy where they control everything.

YES some people will judge you better based on your skin color. That is a pro.

YES some people will misjudge you because of your skin color, a con.

NO there is not some universal benefit in our society to being white. "Whites" exist at all socio-economic, class, education, etc. levels. and not all of them have the benefits of the ruling class or those from certain cultural backgrounds. You think poor whites get benefits? Fuck no.

You think whites like the government and the institutions it upholds? Fuck no. They hate Politicians as much as everyone.

But it appears more Whites are opposed to the government or at least want it to stay the same so they can keep track of how to avoid it. (Conservative)

It appears most non-whites hate government too but they want a governmental change because they feel the government could be good at some point in time. (Democrat)

TL;DR It exists in minute ways but is completely overshadowed by individual experience, social context, socio-economic factors, etc.

It's not like you can stop us. You white homos love BLACKED

>Why aren't you a billionaire?
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Opportunity is unequal, and there's nothing wrong with that. But it's not unequal opportunity when you are the cause of everything that is keeping you down.

This do anything for you?

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No. Black people tend to have less access to educated, the quality of said education tend to be worse. Worse teachers, worse student to teacher ratio. Worse results on tests regardless of race etc.

Wrong. We are just as educated as white people.

Bullshit! In Europe, they are given every chance possible, even paid for!! Yet they end up in jail.

Nope. It's amazing how well Jews are doing. It might be a cultural thing, it might be strong incentivise through religion to preform. But I don't believe Jews are evil or trying to obtain all control.

>I honestly don't know that for certain dude.
You think they can't choose to not sell crack or rob a liquor store? Is someone holding a gun to their heads making them hold a gun to someone else's?

>They can't seem to help themselves.
Of course they can't, because they've been told for the last 60 years they have no choice and it's not their fault. And it's DEMOCRATS that are telling them that. Solve the problem at the source, vote Republican.

I am saying, the harder something is, the less likely you are to do it. Hence environment and society playing a huge part. You can overcome it by extremely hard work, but that is not the norm or statistically happening anywhere.

Republicans are no angels, but they don't have to be in order to be better than Democrats, who are genuinely evil.

We are. We own you and when the messiah comes white people will be gone and blacks will be our slaves. This is Jewish prophecy.

Thats a broad statement. Europe consists of several countries with different types of immigrants.

Why do you keep coming back to that like it's somehow an argument?

I always have mixed feelings about the whole jewish thing...
/pol/ and its conspiracy theories...
I think that they have managed to establish their own base and community in the US in the entertainment/news industry. But I am still not convinced there is some great conspiracy behind all that

well now i'm asking you to consider something other than your extremist liberal professors opinion and branch out and explore other areas that would explain why black people are overwhelmingly in jail. Such as the one I provided in my last response.

Yes. And look at the criminal statistics since 2015 (at least look at the ones that haven't been tampered with, like Sweden did)

>But I don't believe Jews are evil or trying to obtain all control.
Good, because they aren't trying, they already HAVE it, by evidence of that picture. But I'm sure you believe there is some type of institutional privilege white people have, right?