Why don’t I get enjoyment out of smoking weed like others? Instead of relaxation I get twitching, panicking, anxiety, inner demons, fatigue, sickness in some cases. What’s wrong with me Yea Forums?
Why don’t I get enjoyment out of smoking weed like others? Instead of relaxation I get twitching, panicking, anxiety...
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Weed isn't a magical drug with nothing but positive effects?
I imagine cases like yours aren't spoken of much because there is such a cancerous cult behind weed like it's some kind of miracle dick cheese you can eat and smoke. I've seen someone with those issues before. Albeit it's not super common.
You can always smoke less. You probably just have a super low tolerance.
This...
Also, how do you feel after about 20 or 30 minutes? For me, the first 15 mintutes are the strongest.
This is a good point user, I hate the cancerous “weed is a medicine from the gods with no possible negative side effects ever” I’m glad to here from you though because everyone I try to have a conversation with about this won’t even listen. It’s like they can’t possibly fathom that weed could ever have a negative effect on me. “Nah bro you should just smoke more bro” “nah man you just gotta chill out”
Well the thing is I’ve been smoking(albeit not regularly) since I was 15 and I’m 20 now. When I was younger weed used to effect me so strongly that I would completely trip out to the point where I wasn’t even in the same universe anymore and my friends said I looked like I was on a shitload of meth but never actually believed me. They thought I was just putting on an act. I will say that even after years of smoking I still get really fucked up on very small amounts. I can never build a tolerance even after daily use for weeks or months. I also(degenerately) cannot stop chasing the high even though I usually end up spirilinf into a depressed anxious horrible state where I convince myself I’m crazy or that I’m dying or just feeling uncomfortable in my own skin. These are all underlying problems anyway but maybe the weed just brings them out?
>Instead of relaxation I get twitching, panicking, anxiety, inner demons, fatigue, sickness in some cases.
You're smoking too much. Take a single hit next time. Wait 10 minutes (how long it takes to fully hit), then see how you feel.
>twitching, panicking, anxiety, inner demons
I get those too, but only when I'm waaaay stoned. But, I also know that it's very temporary. It's also a sign that the weed is fantastic and that I'm tripping balls. I know now to kick back and enjoy this instead...20 minutes it'll be gone...and I''ll be sad cos the second joint will never get you as high, no matter how much you smoke.
>Nah bro you should just smoke more bro
They are fucking with you because you are inexperienced. Smoking more won't calm you down. They are trying to get you more high so you get more paranoid. People who do that shit are dicks. Get better friends who just want to smoke and chill. Take it slow. You'll have a much better time.
MMy first experience was something similar. Mostly a lot of panicking and anxiety, but this is a pretty common side effect. I've tried it a few more times and figured out I enjoy indica much more then sativa. If you really feel up to it again just try smoking less.
>What's wrong with me?
Nothing bro, it's not for everyone.
This is a good suggestion I’m gonna try it out. I usually end up smoking way more than I realize. I guess the fact that any weed smoking you see anywhere on the internet involves ridiculous amounts and that my friends can smoke grams and grams without even seeming to get high
Obviously weeds not for everybody. For the people that can handle it, it's great.
I wish I lived in a place where I could choose which weed I was getting because the few times I did know for sure I was smoking indica I actually did enjoy it for the most part
Yeah I always end up filling the “timid slightly gullible guy that everyone passive aggressively fucks with” role. Someone actually gave me weed laced with either crack or pcp(I still don’t know to this day) when I was 15. Shit was fucked man I’ve never been the same
>that my friends can smoke grams and grams without even seeming to get high
For me, personally, the first hit of the day is the best. After that, it's all downhill. By the end of the day, sure, I could also smoke everything in sight and not get high, becasue I popped that cherry earlier. It takes my brain about a full day to reset. However, if I go a week on a tolerance break, I get rewarded with an insane high form a tiny tiny amount. That's a wonderful feeling.
Weird, indica usually fucks you up more. I guess sativa might make you more paranoid. As somebody with a low tolerance you probably get crazy stoned either way.
I have some kind of strange anonomoly though where I can smoke regularly fairly large amounts every day and never build a tolerance. I will get just as high the next day or the next hour it doesn’t matter. I guess it could be seen as a blessing by some but it’s actually too intense
I felt that way when weed was illegal and I was sneaking around my family etc. Living on my own helps a lot. Maybe that just means getting to a more stable and comfortable place in life results in more relaxing stone :)
You can also smoke alone (I do quite a bit). But seriously you should be able to find some stoners who just want to smoke and chill.
Yeah I think it’s the headspace that does me in I don’t mind anything that goes on with my body. But your last statement was correct I get so retarded that I can’t even socialize anymore. I’ve learned to fake that I’m okay but inside my shit is fucked
I have the same problem with alcohol. I feel the same as when I'm sober, just clumsier.
>You can also smoke alone (I do quite a bit).
Saturday mornings...(1) walk dog, (2) rip bong, (3) TF2 for hours. (You could read a book too.)
Smoking alone is most enjoyable.
Book? pic related. This must only be read, HAF.
>I’ve learned to fake that I’m okay but inside my shit is fucked
Everything you are describing is normal. It happens to everyone who smokes. And again, if you smoke less you won't get as paranoid.
>should be
Key words there if I could smoke with you though I would user. I do this more than not cause no friends but that’s when I start having slightly psychotic shit going on. Yet as I said before I can’t stop. Every time I hope it’s better but it never really is. There’s been times where I do the whole “just let this end I’ll
never smoke again” but I do the next day
Lmao sounds like a good read. Thanks user.
>Smoking alone is most enjoyable.
Oh yeah. I get irritated around others when I'm stoned. Also shrooms N green... Heaven.
>I’ve learned to fake that I’m okay but inside my shit is fucked
That's why I'll never do acid ever again. faking that shit for 8 hours...insanity. (fyi, a bad trip is like going insane for me).
You should just OD on pills instead. Test tube baby.
Maybe it’s just that I haven’t found peace with myself or with my life and the whole psychedelic nature of weed brings that to the forefront. Sounds like a nice little routine you got there. I’ve been looking for a good book I’ll give that one a shot
I shit you not, it's fantastic. After LOTR, it's my fav fantasy (I'm a sci-fi buff). But nevermind me, that NY times shout out should be recommendation enough.
do you usually smoke along with others or alone? i used to feel exactly like you when smoking with others but was perfectly chill when alone. i didnt like the fact of not being completly myself in front of others and losing control over my thoughts which lead to make me feel uncomfortable and tense at best, paranoid at worst. but when alone everything was fine, the security of my home or garden and some music made it enjoyable. With others i found out that smoking less than them was better for me
I relate to this heavily except I also get ridiculous headaches every single time even if it’s only one or two beers. Can’t a man find a vice?
>inb4 heroin
You will have to smoke more to break it. You will get a panic attack and cortisol reaction. Do you know what that is? Google: Corisol. Actually let me do it for you.
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before you reach the comfy high everyone likes, your brain is going to flood itself with that chemical. It will make you feel like you are going to die. You have to ride it out, nothing happens. If you can't do it, or if you fall for it and put yourself in the hospital then that's your fuckup. Cheers mate.
Yeah the weed does bring out underlying problems, especially with a low tolerance. When I havent had weed in a while, I will start out with like one tiny 1/4 lung full. It gets me a little buzz, and I dont lose my shit.
Yeah I get extremely self conscious(I already am anyway but it’s amplified beyond belief) I pick up on every single social cue and over analyze absolutely everything even if they’re people very close to me I get paranoid about them. This leads me to just not be able to enjoy myself. When I’m alone and I’m thoroughly distracted it’s alright sometimes. But many times I’m taken down a loopy hell hole through my mind where I’m forced to confront everything that’s wrong even if it’s all a ridiculous delusion I become completely convinced of it.
Thanks for the laugh.
you're smoking sativa probably, smoke indica
Wish I could choose what I was smoking. Soon enough it’ll be legal. In the meantime I need to make a road trip to a legal state
a lot of weed is a hybrid between the two but just ask for indica dominant strains, they'll know what you mean, though in the technical sense what you're looking for is a decently high CBD to THC ratio (nothing above 1:8), a lot of weed especially sativa dominants have been bred to be very high in THC and low in CBD to produce intense mental highs. CBD attenuates the effects of THC and stabilizes them. there's even weed mostly bred for medical processing, usually oil pressing, typically these oils are used to comfort people undergoing chemotherapy without making them high, but I've found the actual CBD dominant strains can be mixed in with a THC dominant strain to balance it, my favored strain for this is Harlequin
as for you I'd say try anything ending in "kush" for starters, lemon, blueberry, OG, whatever they have
>my friends can smoke grams and grams without even seeming to get high
I just started a t-break a couple of days ago
I was smoking an OZ to myself every weeks, at the end i was trying to stretch my OZ to 2 but it only made me want to smoke more since i was barely getting high off some high end buds i order from BC
your body has cannabinoid receptors, in fact it’s called the endocannabinoid system and when you constantly smoke alot of strong shit all the time, they get saturated, when receptors are saturated, it’s almost as if I would’ve to smoke double the amount i was actually smoking just to get a decent high
Thanks for the advice user. I have heard about the balancing of cbd and thc. I’m really just looking for the relaxation with a slight head high. I don’t need the insanity I have plenty of that. Most of the time I don’t even know what strain I’m smoking but the best I’ve ever felt from weed was one called blue dream. I’m definitely gonna give the kush strains a try though
This is a problem I think I’ll never have in my life
Good for you, i guess?
Prices and selection are pretty amazing and am on unemployment right now so i just indulge more than usually
Different people react differently like with any other substance that alters your biochemistry. You've probably got an imbalance of a few chemicals that cannabis really sucks with. I recommend tryinging it in a different headspace with people you trust. If that goes goose egg you might need to try something else
those are common adverse effects of THC. I dont know a single person who has never had those.... I
OP here I’m about to smoke. Wish me luck
That's carpet is fucking terrible. No wonder you can't enjoy weed
These are good points. I just can’t seem to stop chasing the dragon though
that. fucking phone posters
It does fuck with me sometimes I won’t lie
blue dream is an excellent example of what you want, it's a hybrid of blueberry kush and a somewhat tame sativa called haze, it's technically sativa dominant but all the blue dream i've ever seen leans indica, very dark green with shorter hairs like an indica tends to look. blueberry's mother is straight (as in a true landrace strain, just about) afghani weed, famous for it's "couchlock" so anything bred with blueberry is going to be very relaxing.
interestingly it was probably afghani that was made into the hashish of the assassin legends, which in said legends made men believe they were dead and in heaven
Trust me it’s not by choice. My pride and joy here is not in working condition
Damn that’s really cool and it makes sense. This is why I still love Yea Forums deep down people like you.
Hit send before I finished that post but yeah. When I smoked the blue dream I was in a park on a summer night and the atmosphere mixed with the highand was very euphoric and just all around a great experience. I can see why it’s roots have a history like that. I gotta find some of that again
nice. I got a similar rig
Weed just doesnt work for some people, I got anxious, scared, had visuals, had tense muscles even when I didnt smoke much and it was indica breed. And I think it is one reason I even became psychotic one time. Funny because I have handled big doses of psychedelics and dissociatives just fine. It might be just that your friends are pushing you to smoke too much, but if weed isnt for you dont force it. I know it sucks as it is physically less dangerous than many other drugs and many people seem to enjoy it a lot, but trust me you dont want to be hearing voices in your head.
Explain if you would why you hate phone posters.
That’s interesting that even though it’s seen as a “weaker” drug than others it can still end up having such intense and sometimes negative effects on certain people. I experience all of those side effects, yet to have voices in my head and I sincerely hope that I don’t. That is the biggest reason that I most likely keep trying to enjoy it.
Not that user but it’s considered a “normie” and “newfag” act. Really though who doesn’t also browse Yea Forums on their smartphone in the current year
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Has anyone ever had CEV while smoking weed? (closed eye visuals)
I get these trip sometimes and theyre fucking crazy, feeling like falling through my bed and seeing weird geometric patterns and entities
Once i convinced myself that god put me trough a trip like this and my pineal gland just fucked me with dmt
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I experience similar things sometimes. No one ever believes this shit but weed can be a powerful paychedelic
weed isn't for everyone, user. also don't believe the faggots that say "oh it has no negative effects" bc it fucking does. i love weed, i smoke a lot, not daily but a few times a week for medical reasons. the feelings you get depend on type, strain, etc. try small hits first, maybe just 1 or 2. i also get really paranoid and freaked (rarely), but only if i sit there with friends and we go through 5 or 6 bowls. ive noticed sativas are not for me, they fuck with me and i dont like the highs they give. i only smoke indicas or indica-dominant hybrids. but again, maybe weed just isn't for you? ive met quite a few people who get fucked up by it. one of them is a very close friend of mine who smokes, but takes it slowly and carefully and knows his limit. just give it another shot or two and if you still feel awful, just don't do it, man. grab a drink instead.
Bottom line: Don't smoke weed.
You sound like a pussy.
so i have read trough all of this OP if you are still here, i have a question. why do you smoke, you do not seem to be getting anything out of it.
That’s a good question. It’s hard to answer because I don’t fully know. Irks like even though it’s a lot of the times bad I still end up wanting to smoke it and every time I still convince myself it might be a good time. I guess because there have been times where it’s been really nice.
i am asking because...well i have the same problem, acually reading this thread is almost an exact timeline of my "career" in weed smoking (even the laced part). and tbf i have no idea why i still smoke.
Even back when I was first smoking it and it was really fucking intense and horrifying at times full on visuals, auditory hallucinations, feelings of impending doom, I still kept smoking it
I also have really negative thoughts when I get blazed; I'd just be judgemental of myself - in general and also about feeling like a retard when I couldn't keep track of a thought cos I was stoned - and also judgemental of the people I was with. I didn't start smoking until I was like 20, then I smoked most days for about a year and a half. Enjoyed it at first - and I actually do still enjoy it if I can just smoke alone and listen to music/watch something - but eventually, every single time I got high with my friends it would ruin my time with them for me. I'd just go quiet and think those negative thoughts. Also I grew to hate how it made my mouth feel/taste; so sweet and strong no matter how much I drank or what I ate.
My solution was to just stop smoking. Only done it twice in the past 2 years. One time when I went to Amsterdam. The tipping point for me was when I did acid with my friends and also blazed and had probably the worst time of my life. Not trippy or nightmarish, just super self critical. My life has been a lot better since then. Although a few months ago I did acid with my gf and some rando at a hostel and apparently smoked (I didn't even remember it) and it was a similarly despairing experience to the trip 2 years prior, although this time I wasn't really self critical at all, I just found existence and humans darkly absurd. Really keen to trip without smoking actually, cos it was going really well before I toked. Spoiled it and made it really dark. My advice would be to just try to stop. If I had weed I would basically have to smoke it, so that could be your problem. Just don't buy weed and it'll be so much easier.
Had the same effect on me weed has the large gay and people who defend it are faggots
my irst time was actually the best high i ever had. i had a very stressfull life back then and it was the first time i could let that all slide off of me...been looking for that ever since, but never found it, with weed that is.
I've been on here daily since '07, much of the time on my phone. I don't own a pc because I'm not a gamer and I don't require any kind of document production or high level processing ability. I also use my kindle quite a bit. Would thus make me a 'normie' or a newfag in the eyes of those who concern themselves with such things? Genuinely interested to know. If it helps I've also been a regular toker for over 30 years and could not tell of one instance where I've known what strain of weed I'm smoking. Never bothered me and never thought to ask tbh.
You might be smoking something too potent for your first times. Try getting something with lower thc content and higher CBD to help ease your anxiety. My friend is the same way. If you live in an illegal state tho, just buy what weed you can have have some cbd products on hand to smoke if you start to get overwhelmed
Idk if it’d be considered CEV but when I put on some noise canceling headphones when I’m super baked and play music, I start to imagine a music video in my head, or sometimes get super detailed memories coming back to me
That’s exactly the same with me so I suppose we do have a similar situation. The first time was magical and pure euphoria and I’ve never experienced it since but have always been chasing it as you said
Not trying to spook you OP, but if your family has a medical history of schizophrenia you may want to be checked out. Often it doesnt manifest until after puberty, and can be exacerbated by heavy cannabis usage.
maybe we should both quit huh? but yeah than there is that part about how weed also makes me feel sane....weed is weird
Damn user, yeah I get into these intense spiraling episodes of self criticizing where I’m not even really in reality anymore. The one time I did lsd with no weed involved was amazing but the times I’ve mixed weed with acid or sheoons have been unpleasant. You definitely hit the nail on the head with the having to smoke it. Even if it’s negative I’m still drawn to it. When I chill with people while high I either get over analytical and paranoid of everything that everyone’s doing including myself or I just retreat into my own head completely and can’t even focus on a conversation anymore.
I always was thinking that I'm about to piss myself all the time when I was high. Fuck this shit, I chose alcohol.
It’s bullshit in my eyes. The type of people still concerned with something like that are irrelevant. I suppose weed is weed but I still enjoy the concept of being able to walk into a store and pick out what looks good to you. Just seems like how it should be
> anxiety
Stop today at this moment or enjoy a schizophrenic life in now and a few years.
>not trying to spook you
>mental illnesses like schizophrenia are probably my biggest fear
>ishiggydiggy
In all reality though Fuck I hope that’s not the case. When I was very young I would have full blown hallucinations mostly at night. For instance I’d walk out of my room and this pig would run up and I’d get on its back and ride it around my house into a different room. And then I’d wake up in that room.
That might be a good idea. I’ve been thinking about trying to go for a month and just see how it feels. I’m curios how that laced experience was for you
me and my highschool buddys used to smoke weed on the train to school. one day they were all giigling while one of them handed me that joint... i did not make it to school that day, i spend my day sitting in trains listening to the music that the electrical engines made
Damn that’s pretty fucked up, do you know what it was?
i have no idea but if i had to guess i would say coke. some of them used that on the regular. hate the guy for it but damn it was the best fucking concert i have ever witnessed if you know what i mean. i do not use any other druggs never had so i have no point of reference
You could have drug induced psychosis...