Being homosexuals or bisexual is a choice. There is no good counterargument

Being homosexuals or bisexual is a choice. There is no good counterargument.
>inb4 gay lobby propaganda

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4936529/
tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19419899.2017.1328459
discord
youtu.be/wA1m6hww6zk
twitch.tv/gentlemandogg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_erotic_depictions.
twitter.com/AnonBabble

When did you decide to be straight?

Around 10 years old

So you were gay, bi, or just curious beforehand?

I was a child. Children don't have a sexuality.

Gays are. Evil

Your opinion, no matter how much you believe it and no matter how strong you state it, is not "fact"

Tryhard edgelord, all posturing and no substance to your argument.

To be honest I agree it is harmful, but you're just making me cringe.

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Yeah I don't think babies come out with sexual thoughts or preferences. It definitely is a choice, which I believe is influenced by nurture and nature. Like I could see a man who is a bit more effeminate and chemical wired with more estrogen who grows up in a hypermasculine household who doesn't want to conform to the masculine way of life could favor homosexuality. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's definitely a choice, just no gay person wants to admit that they can be wrong about shit cause they're wired like women

I don't understand why you seek to hate gays. I love them. They're Darwinism manifested in the most hilariously tragic way possible. They're purging themselves from the gene pool and I wish more people would do it.
Where else on Earth do you see a problem solving itself this efficiently? Every "gay and proud" type I see makes me smile deeply inside.

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who cares if it's a choice or not, you're obsessing over how other people have sex. get atheist already, jesus.

If it is truly a choice, then them being culled from the gene pool will never happen.

But I'm already an atheist.

>When the dolphins are gay.

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If gay is a choice then it is an immutable human right. If its genetic its a deviatation from the norm & should be corrected, like hairlips or downs.

there is no such thing as a norm in genetics. All mutations produce equally valid code. There is no such thing as default human.

straight isn't a mental illness

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"humans- mammals with 10 or 12 fingers" back to tumblr retard

Sauce of the pic

>implying cladistics has any place in genetics
fucking sped.

It's past your bed time faggot

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Homosexuality is, funnily enough, a choice in the fast majority of cases. Only a small percentile of homosexuals are born homosexuals. (As in, they are mentally predisposed to having their attraction being aimed towards the same sex). The rest are mentally ill sexual deviants. In one study, researchers found 25% of the gays in their program had had 1000 sexual partners or more in their entire lifetime. 75% had said 50 or more.

This is in high contrast to heterosexual's lifetime partner rates. All of this paired with the fact gays are much more likely to develop mental disorders ranging from anxiety to bi polar disorder. And you can't forget the fact the vast majority of pedophiles are gay men.

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>b4 "muh proof doh"
carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4936529/

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fags

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Low quality thread. Heres your (you).

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Thank you sir here's a (you) in return

bumpzz

I'm young and gay and ya know this stuff really does hurt people. I just want to look at funny pictures with anons on Yea Forums and this thread pops up every day to remind me that there are people that hate me for just existing... and that hurts

Well hurt more you faggot and kys

I don't want to hurt you. I don't want to hurt anyone. I just want you to be better.

OK, choose to find men attractive for a while

This is what I am talking about
And what's wrong with me? What makes you qualified to point at people and say they're broken?

Okay. I'll do it for 5 seconds.

...

Done, now I'm straight again. What a relief.

>And what's wrong with me?
You think that you want to have sex with other men. I've seen where that leads with my own friends and members of my family who decided they were "gay." It's horribly self-destructive. You can't experience real romantic love. You are inviting all sorts of disease. Normal people will look down on you regardless of if they have the balls to state it outright. You won't have children, at least not the normal way. It's a miserable fate you've chosen.
>What makes you qualified to point at people and say they're broken?
I'm not broken in that particular way, which is not to say I'm perfect, but I can see when someone is doing something that will hurt themselves and society.

If you could put that to use and choose to stop being fuckin gay, this board sure would appreciate it

>you can't experience real romantic love
Where do you come up with this trash?
I will never birth a child, that's true, everything else is based on anecdotal or outdated information.

You're pretty good at making these same threads. I bet you've had a lot of practice.

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>Where do you come up with this trash?
It isn't trash. Even ignoring the physical aspect, men and women are very different mentally and compliment each other. Homosexual "love" is at best a crude imitation of real love. At worst it involves "poz" and "cruising bathrooms."
>I will never birth a child, that's true, everything else is based on anecdotal or outdated information.
Gay people spread disease more. This is just true. See pic related.
All heterosexual find homosexuality disgusting. This is probably because in our past, homosexuals spread disease through their sexual practices (as they still do today). A 2017 study of 120 heterosexual men found that even those who didn't express any prejudice toward homosexuals had more of the digestive enzyme sAA (an indicator of disgust or anxiety) present in their saliva after being viewing images of same-sex couples than after viewing to images of maggots.
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Please stop being gay for your own good. I'm only trying to help you.

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I like you

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Are you seriously suggesting that pedos don't have a choice about being attracted to kids? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Your a fucking tard who repressed homosexual feelings. Maybe you should start with killing yourself as a first step cause clearly people on Yea Forums will listen to some idiot babble on about some stupid shit no one cares about.

That's a great message in that picture. Unfortunately, degenerates will reject it because it "offends" their massive egos.

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>t. willful homosexual angered by facts

I don't think he was talking about that, but since you seem to care about the topic - choices are involved in sexual preferentiation sometimes, but those choices are made without deep consideration before we understand their importance. As an adult, no choice can change one's sexuality. This, unfortunately, includes people primarily attracted to children. You know that though, it's common sense that the vast majorities of pedos would rather not be pedos. Plus you're a really bad troll. Lucky for you I like talking about this stuff.

I like you

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rent free

I think I'm bisexual but chose to not have sex with men.

>Being homosexuals or bisexual is a choice.
Assuming your premise is correct (even though it isn't), there is no logical reason why it would follow that such a choice is immoral, wrong, or "not okay".

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It's gross, spreads disease, and corrupts society.

discord
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New Yea Forums server.

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DOT NOT JOIN THE DISCORD LINKS , THE QUEER ANTIFAGS ARE TRYING TO DOX POL/TARDS AND B/ROS.

SPREAD THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHEN THE FAGGOTS POST A DISCORD LINK

It's not like anyone is dumb enough to join outside of incognito mode with a new account.

Don't you think that's more because women won't just fuck anyone. I would have easily met 1000 chicks in my life i would have fucked had they been up for it.

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This is a (you) trap. If you found this post using the search feature then you have to give it a (you).

There's a cure for people like that. It's small and metallic, and the injection takes a fraction of a second to permanently rid the earth of those scum.

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The study you gave says it only looked at offending pedophiles. Other studies have confirmed that most 'offending pedophiles' do not fit the medical diagnostic criteria for pedophilia. Instead such people tend to have other mental disorders or just lack a sexual partner. Pedophiles on the other hand usually don't get caught because they usually don't offend beyond the consumption of pornography. That said, if you look at the pornographic content being posted on the dark web you can get a sense for the ratio between heterosexual and homosexual desires in the pedophile community. Turns out a very small percentage of pedos are homosexual.

You want to kill a population as large as the entire LGBT community without having any way of finding them? Good luck. But hey, if you make any progress you can start with me.

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It doesn't make any sense to focus on gays if your aim is to reduce degeneracy, its a self contained problem other than bisexuals bringing aids to woman. Premarital sex and weak marriage is a much bigger threat to society.

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>I've seen where that leads with my own friends and members of my family who decided they were "gay."
A toxic or misguided person can be gay/coming out.
You haven't specified what is it about gayness that is bad.

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Hetero genocide when?

Several straw men falling down a slippery slope, watch out hay heads!

Strawman or not, gay degenacy is at an all time high with kids, look at “Desmond is great”

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>Not a mental illness.

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>Not a mental illness...

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>Still not a mental illness...

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Gay people on average are more educated and successful in comparison to many heterosexuals.

Sure theirs also poor and uneducated queers too, but why do you think trailer parks and ghettos are predominantly filled to the brim with poor, religious, and retarded heterosexual white trash, niggers, and beaners that love to breed non-stop? I guess they 'choose' to be poor and stupid huh?

Meanwhile millions of gays can easily afford to live in some of the most wealthy and exclusive communities in America.

What i'm trying to get at is that pretty much the only person that chose to be a faggot today was op.

It's amazing how different children act when they aren't having their feeling repressed isn't it?

Well... engaging in sexual activity, be it gay, straight, or anything else, is a choice.
Unless you're being raped.
The kinds of partners you prefer to select for that kind of sexual activity, however, isn't really a choice. There's not a lot of good evidence it's genetic, but it's definitely something that's pretty strongly established in one's personality and mental makeup by the time one reaches adulthood.
So while homosexual ACTS might be a choice, being homosexual isn't

Amazing how they act when they are hyper sexualised at a young age and coursed into embracing the queer lifestyle by adult figures.

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Source???

Amazing how gay dolphins can pretend to be.

>hyper sexualized
This term describes how others (such as your self) see them (you sick pedo). Nudity does not have to be sexual. Fashion does not have to be sexual. Children understand this well as it rarely is for them.

>prove that being gay is bad
*proof is shown*
>fucking tard reeeeee

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>You can't experience real romantic love

Dude real romantic love isn't real.
grow up bitch

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he didn't really prove anything

Normal children are very uncomfortable around naked grown adults or nudity in general unless they are being coursed by their parents, fame and media hype... So yes hyper sexualized you degeneratetive faggot.

Normal children have no feelings about nudity whatsoever other than what they're taught by family. If they live in a family of nudists than nudity is not uncomfortable for them. This makes sense if you think about prehistoric societies, no need for "fame and media hype".

youtu.be/wA1m6hww6zk
Implying this is totally normal...
Again hyper sexualized.
Kid even knows what ketamine is and how to snort it.

You were molested, amirite???

When kids spend time on the internet and grow up fast it's not because kids are hyper sexualized, it's because their parents are irresponsible and let them consume sexualized content. The effects of this are awful but totally normal.

My family life was boring and normal, youngest of three, doctor and lawyer for parents. I am a pedo though, which is why I'm here. What's your excuse?

>awful
>totally normal
Pick one.

How about awfully unormal and awful for kids psyche.

Yes, I’m sure you are...
As for me, I have insomnia and have a funeral to attend today...

You think awful things can't be totally normal? You sound like a child.

I think it’s awful to try and normalise these said awful things.

Ah, my condolences. I've also got the insomnia something fierce. Yea Forums never seems to call my name or let me roll anything other than fap.

Those things aren't inherently awful, it's only in the hands of children that they become so. They also aren't being normalized, children just have far greater access to media and information than they used to.

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Again it’s degenarcy on behalf of the parents for not being father and mother figures and teaching them morals and how to act, they stopped caring and even if they tried to teach the child that that form of behavior is inappropriate then they are deemed evil parents for trying to parent their own children.
It’s disgusting and in a few years the behavior will have gone so far that we will forget what true morals are.

Cool, blame the parents, we're on the same page there, as long as we aren't pretending this is a new problem. Shitty parents not teaching morals / behaviors have been around as long as humanity.

lol do you actually think people want to be pedos.
HAHAHAHA

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ok, lets focus on the real problem here;
cameras

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I totally agree with parents are to blame in part, as well as the media and everyone trying to normalise it.
That being said, fonyour to say it’s awful but normal only makes you part of the problem.

Being gay doesn't mean you have to fuck everybody (even if gays have more sex). I myself think it's in the male nature to want to fuck a lot. Most straight males would love to have as much sex as gays, but females do not have this burning desire to fuck all the time. This is just my speculation tho.

But just saying that not every homosexual is the same

yes let's ban cameras

Gays on average have hundreds of sex partners sometimes thousands and yet they wonder why they get “the gåy cancer.
See

Without cameras there would still be loli threads. I'm afraid this goes deeper than we ever could have imagined.

I vaguely remember media/political discussions when I was younger, when digital photography was becoming mainstream, about whether digital cameras should have systems to recognize child porn.
Nothing came of it, but the "think of the children" brigade were making a fuss

Stating statistical fact makes me part of the problem? You sound like a libtard incapable of addressing crime statistics. Yes sexual content is normal on the internet. It is in fact prolific. Your denial cannot change this.

Are you listening to yourself??
You blame parents for kids being sexualized and call it awful but in the same breath you call it normal and seem accepting.

I’m not a liberal at all.

Well I'm not sure if I trust those statistics, but even if those are true that doesn't make being gay wrong, because being does not mean you have to be apart of the lgbtq+ culture'. You can be a homosexual who has only been with a few people?

I myself find people (gay or straight) who go from bed to bed really repulsive, but I still think it is their choice.

let's ban pictures

I wasn't calling you a liberal, only your take on the situation as reminiscent of a common (liberal) failing observed on this website.

That said, yes porn is normal. Sex is normal. Having these things on the internet is normal. However, bad parenting is also normal, which puts sexual content in the eyes of children. This situation can thus only be described as normal. That said, it is still awful. Many things in this world are both normal and awful, such as death.

Porn is not normal.
Sex is normal for adults, not children.
It cannot be described as normal unless you’re a pedo.
Awful is not normal, generalising it as such is wrong thus again making you part of the problem.

I think we will agree on bad parenting but the rest is like beating a dead horse... I appreciate the convo though. Thanks.

I think if you completely reject any idea of same sex intimate relationships it can make you mentally ill too.

>Children don't have a sexuality.
Factually incorrect. Unless you start moving goal posts by defining childhood to end the second you grow sexual feelings, children absolutely have sexual impulses and a capacity for sexual feelings.

twitch.tv/gentlemandogg
9

Porn is normal, check out some human history:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_erotic_depictions.
Also, I never said sex was normal for children. I said the opposite in fact. Moreover, you miss the point. For something to be normal it need only be common. Common things are often awful.

If sex and sexuality is the basis or majority of your personality, something went wrong.

I would say the same about heterosexual prostitutes, strippers, celebrities who make a living by teasing skin, etc.

Life is about so much more than sex, sexual identity, and even more than personal relationships. These are all just tiny parts of life. But, many (not all) homosexuals express these tiny aspects of life as the biggest, most important, and prevalent parts of themselves. Which is really disappointing.

Do what you're gonna do. Be gay. But just know that no one except other gay people give a shit that you're gay. You don't need a parade. You don't need to tell children what gayness is.

But most importantly, be other things, too.

Sorry I missed your point, I’m literally running on two hours of sleep.

Common doesn’t mean you should simply chalk it up as normal.

Fuck off pedo shill.

goy

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Projecting much? You may not like the idea, but your discomfort doesn't make children magically asexual dolls. Certainly doesn't stop them from experimenting with each other when you're not looking.

They are the same thing by definition.
>conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
or
>the usual, average, or typical state or condition.
When I say it is normal I am citing a statistical fact.

No, I'm not him, but I am a pedo who agrees with him. Fuck off shill.

“Normal” doesn’t make it right though

I said it was awful, not right.

I'm not going to say a child can't have sexual thoughts or do sexual things. But that doesn't mean they should be encouraged to do them. And they sure as fuck shouldn't be assumed to be consenting or knowing of the consequences of their actions. So, again, fuck off pedo shill.

Then why are we debating the issue?

This.

I've been wondering that for a while, but I had a feeling it was just a communication error. I'm glad I took the time to talk it out with you.

Ditto.
I thought by you saying it was normal you were insinuating that it was not wrong.

Good talk user.

What if it’s a genetic response to certain conditions.
Overpopulation for instance?
It does seem more prevalent in successful societies.

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Then it still applies to you too. Children develop sexuality before they even start to form meaningful identity. It may not be identifiably complete until much later, but it very much starts stupidly early.
And your discomfort doesn't stop it, your encouragement is not required.
Considering the point being made was you cant be gay or straight until after childhood because you cant be sexual, looks to me youre just projecting.

Do animals choose to be gay?
Why do you feel that other people's sex lives are harmful to you if they don't involve you?
Has anyone in your family turned out to be gay?
Were you brought up in a religious household?
Have you been scared or curious about your sexuality in the past or present?
Is it just gay/bi men you hate or gay/bi women as well?
OP, Please answer these so we can have a proper debate.

it doesn't matter WHAT you actually WANT. the problem only arises when you advertise it. for some reason, gay people are allowed to advertise their sexual desires with silly symbols, actions, or even fake voices to sound like a fucking pansy.

that is wrong. it is sexual harassment. if straight people did that, it would be illegal but gay people are protected. that is WRONG.

gay or WHATEVER is OK. advertising it to every shopper when you're some stupid black faggot and making them uncomfortable with your pansy voice is NOT OK. showing off your gay fake pansy voice at work or school is NOT OK.

it is OFFENSIVE. NO ONE has to be FORCED to know what SEXUAL DESIRES you have, as "cool" and "exotic" as they are. FUCK YOU. YOU SHOULD FUCKING GET HURT.

i mentioned "every shopper" and "stupid black faggot" because there was an albertson's i used to go to. there was this slimy black pansy that ran the register. one day, he just really creeped me out and i walked out and must have made enough of a disgusted face that the manager behind the mirror saw it and FIRED him. coming back later, some dumb cunt that had previously come on to me actually CRIED when i went through her aisle, like she was devastated that i was a homophobe.

fucking tards. that faggot was totally fake and very irritating.

But that's literally false, OP. Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings.

(Also, even if it was a choice. so what? Love is love)

>Then it still applies to you too.
You misunderstand the source of my discomfort. See, I'm aware of how children behave, I've had a 6 year old girl grind on me to stimulate her clit. I've seen unborn babies masturbate. I'm not coming from a position of ignorance. I'm a pedophile, this is a topic I've paid a lot of attention to. That's why I know that it's wrong for adults to act sexually with children. It's not because of society. It's not because I'm brainwashed. It's because sex entails a lot more than physical pleasure - but that's all kids see it as. Moreover, kids tends to seek immediate gratification and are really easy to convince to do so. In other words, an adult seeking sexual gratification with a child is abusing their position of authority and the child's lack of knowledge / development. I don't doubt that many pedos have good intentions but this is the state of things and it cannot be avoided.

Straight people do that. And have since always. Have you ever asked an asexual person what they think of culture? Shit, have you really never heard the phrase "sex sells"? Or is your head so far up your own ass theres just no room for gay cocks?

this

Being gay is not a choice. You are born that way. If it was a choice, why would anyone choose it given how badly gay people are treated? Also, if it is a choice, then surely you could choose to be gay right now if you wanted, right? But you can't.

Gay people feel attraction in exactly the same way straight people do. It's just as natural. Homosexuality can be found in just about every animal species on earth, it's just that humans are the only species who have decided it's "wrong".

For what its worth I didn't misunderstand by much. It was an assumed factor. But in fairness I also didn't expect you to be that self aware. So kudos.

She a 4 year old child, he a 12 year old gorilla, between them - only love. Who the fuck are you to say its wrong.

>The only book I've ever read is the bible

I'm sorry you were raised in a backwards ass hick town. Your parents have let you down.

Love between two consenting adults. Sorry, I thought you would be smart enough to know the difference between love and rape.

it's just puppy love, nothing wrong with that
it's not like one of them is even a teenager yet

I mean, you know that you are objectively wrong, right? Who the fuck cares who sticks their dick in another dudes butt? Live and let live.

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, honestly. It's hard to tell on Yea Forums.

being lgbtq+ isn't a fucking war crime, its only bad when you force your ideas on other people. if you hate lgbtq+ people for no reason youre a dumb cunt, if you force being lgbtq+ on other people, you're a stupid faggot. (am bi btw)

based and reality-pilled

don't force people do to or believe anything, just let everyone chill

Why would you even give a shit of you're not the one who's gay?

they spread disease, abuse the youth, and flaunt degeneracy. choosing to commit these sins through homosexuality is a heinous act. How can you not care?

Not that user but, that just validates his point even more, you seek heterosexual women.

Bisexual or homosexual women are very promiscuos too and the majority of them have mental disorders like anxiety and such.

You're conflating the primary culture that accepts homosexuality with qualities of homosexuality itself.

how and where did you acquire this information?

>Spread diseases
ahh yes, and no straight person has ever caught an STD. Also, AIDS is all but cured nowadays.
>Abuse youth
Most paedophiles are straight. Just ask Chris Hansen
>Flaunt degeneracy
WTF does that even mean. Love and sex aren't degenerate, unless you were raised in some 18th century Mormon shithole
>Choosing to commit these sins
Not a choice, not a sin.

Literally every word in that post was wrong.

>spread disease amongst the young
Damn you really did a bad job of raising your kids then

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>Alternative facts

it feels like the sacred band of thebes invaded this thread, holy shit there's so many people just destroying the anti gay posts in the thread. what the fuck, this is pretty ok Yea Forums.

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As a neutral observer in this thread I have to say that neither side is making themselves look good or "winning" the argument.

I can't speak for everyone but I know a lot of the anti gay posts are made by the same people "destroying the anti gay posts".

retard

i think this thread is just ded now

as they say in fuck you, kill yourself

means peace among worlds?

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>In one study, researchers found 25% of the gays in their program had had 1000 sexual partners or more in their entire lifetime. 75% had said 50 or more.
I've heard this a lot but never seen the evidence.

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>choice
>mental illness

Pick one

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>This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.
Read your own citations.

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>It isn't trash. Even ignoring the physical aspect, men and women are very different mentally and compliment each other. Homosexual "love" is at best a crude imitation of real love.
t. never seen how loving a gay couple can be

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>All heterosexual find homosexuality disgusting.
Are you retarded?

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This image is bullshit and everyone knows it.

I'm straight and I sure find it repulsive to see faggots with each other.

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>Vanguard America

I like you

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lol some friendless loser actually took the time to make that graphic.

Posting pictures of rare surgeries isn't an argument.

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There's no evidence this image is real. The only possible sources are conveniently impossible to verify.

OP still has to decide that, every time he steps out of the truck stop bathroom stall after sucking nigger dicks.

isnt that right evangelicals?

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Where does this take place? Maybe they're from somewhere where kissing is more common.

Butthurt

good old fag logic....

the aids must've gotten to your faggotbrain

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USA USA USA

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The man and his son might be from somewhere else.

sure

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Yes, I choose to get laid twice as much as you do. Fuck, zero times two is still zero, isn't it.

I fuck chicks and dudes. I've had a lot of threesomes. I don't fuck black people because they're not attractive. Never had an STD. You jelly, user?

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discord
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At least they're generally employed and commit few crimes.

They're only dangerous if you fuck them, which kind of calls into question the nature of this thread.

There are nigger, I mean bigger fish to fry.

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Haha op homo

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>.

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>black
lel

Even if gou didnt decide to be a subhuman degenerate you still deserve the rope

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>you are not born black
>christfag poster

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>Children don't have a sexuality.
op is a faggot

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and you're a gay psycho

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thats not liberal thats the fake advertising on tv and the leftist scum

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If you think posting pictures of retards announcing their retardation and christfag bullshit will change anyone, think again.

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just ignore it

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I'm bi and i agree i'm just a sex addict

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You wont climb to heaven with your hands stuffed in a vagina either so i really dont even get this.

Also doesnt heaven seem like...boring as hell? Who wants to live for enternity getting whatever you want with no struggles? That would make afterlife meaningless.

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1A argument

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who cares about gay marriage just ignore it

>Cock rate, trap, shota and furry threads always top threads
>Go to Yea Forums tell them they going to hell and mental illness
noshit
>tfw taking the bait

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Straight is the normal way of things, you don't decide that. Gay is not normal, it is a decision.

i'm not gay. i am trans.

gtfo nazi

>It's not because I'm brainwashed
>sex entails a lot more than physical pleasure
Pick one

OP is a faggot

>But that doesn't mean they should be encouraged to do them
Why not?

>And they sure as fuck shouldn't be assumed to be consenting or knowing of the consequences of their actions.
Why not? And why only sex, and not eating or drinking or bathing or going for a walk? They don't know "consequences" to those actions either yet no one seem to mind those being done without their consent.

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>everyone I don't like is a nazi

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Traps are gay, faggot.

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children shouldnt have a sexuality*

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There is no winning this and there never will be.

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So is raping an 8yo. Doesnt make it a good choice though. Youre a very very special guy with this kind of logic, you know?

It's not a choice for you OP.
That's why you're obsessed with it.

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