Can anybody prove to me that fucking a drunk chick passed out in the street, while wearing a condom, is morally wrong ?

it might be rape legaly but i agree with you.... the times we live in.... how can you be a 9/10 and pass out alone in the street.... i mean dark street, 3 blocks away from drunck college city.

bump for further opinion. im not done humble bragging... and also 1 for and 1 against is no moral pannel at all, even by Yea Forums's standards

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That’s my overall issue with “rape” if it’s violent to me that meets my moral definition.
If I slathered myself in A1 steak sauce and hop into a grizzly bear exhibit at the zoo was I really “attacked” or am I just a stupid mother fucker?
To be if a girl willing gets hammered, blacks out, she HAS to accept the possibility a dick I’ll be in her holes. If not than don’t get black out drunk; personal fucking responsibility.

Then that would apply to yourself as well, right? You have a few too many, blackout, wake up with a sore asshole and semen dripping out. You don't remember it, so no biggie, right?

>semen dripping out...
>what is a condom
>very explicilty mentionned in op

Why don't you worry about cum dripping out of your ears, jizzears ?

If you wear a condom then it’s not morally wrong. It’s just illegal.

So, what if the condom rips? Wasn't as clear when your weird fantasies apply to your own chauvinistic ass?

Yeah pretty much. If that were the case I honestly can’t be upset about it. You think I’m kidding but I morally believe we should be both responsible for our actions AND the situations we put ourselves in.
Fucking a passed out drunk girl vs. prowling the streets dragging some sober girl into the ally, violently stripping her, pinning her down so I could suck her tits. Then pounding and literally tearing a pussy that doesn’t want it to me are two vastly different definitions of “rape”.
The former I “morally” don’t consider rape, no matter how much snowflakes wanna cry about it.

Frankly if you’re a woman and you pass out like that in public then you are asking for it. Maybe your parents should’ve taught you that your safe zone is your home not the made up faggot bubble of entitlement to everything like they taught. White women are ducking stupid

Morality is a societal construct.
Rape is instinctually driven. Even in the human animal.
Rape and pedo are shunned in this age of sjw. Before 1980 they were portrayed is normal in movies and TV.

says the incel

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You can do better than that, seriously I wanna hear your thoughts.

slavery was ok too nigger. end your life too nigger

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ass isnt designed for cock.

If you leave her exposed to the elements afterwards, especially on concrete overnight, there's a very high chance she'll die.

Contrary to popular belief, murder is actually worse than rape.

Next time you're passed out I hope someone sticks their dick in your mouth

All things considered that’s not really all that bad

At one time it was not only ok but wide accepted as time right thing to do

What are you? a fucking predator? how can you be asking for anything if you're unconscious? it's not like she benefits from being anyone's cum toy. Wouldn't it be better to have a willing participant you stupid neckbeard? Oh thats right, its the only way you can get sex without paying for it. That and you hate women cos you really hate yourself.

A predator has to hunt... if the prey I out cold and ass up...not much of a predator are you?

are you a fucking nigger?
rape is nigger stuff

I don't need to take something thats given to me freely, fuck off you cunt. I hope someone takes advantage of your poor choices too...

tbh, if a chick gets drunk then getsba train ran on her I do blame her, and I blame the guys.
1) She needs better friends that will take care of her when drunk, not let her become some cock sleeve. So her fault in choosing the wrong friends
2) Telling me she didnt plan in finding strange to began with? Why dress up? You dress up to gain the attention of others, to show off your best featuers. Why not just wear a stained sweat pants? At least if something does go down, you can point and say "Yeah i was raped, because I wore sweat pants, not an easy access dress"
The guys are to blame for not following the golden rule, Do on to others as you want others to do on to you. So unless these fags are getting drunk and have guys run a train on them, they shouldn't do that to others.

Also stop wearing leggings "user you dont understand its comfortable" So is jerking off to the thought of you sucking my dick, but you dont see me with my dick in my hand.

Its fucking called boundaries, gain some or others will cross into yours because there arent any.

that's rape nigger. go neck yourself.

Well that exactly the point I don’t make poor choices. I don’t drink if I have to drive, I think logically, and avoid unneeded risks.
The World is unfair, it doesn’t owe you jack shit snowflake. If I ever come across your wife, girlfriend or daughter passed out drunk in the streets. You tell her she’s did everything right.

and if I ever catch an ass like you forcing himself on a woman I'll kill him. So there ya have it, hope you never encounter a man like me while raping a woman cos I would end you.

If you could even think this would be okay you shouldn't be a part of society at all. You should be locked up with animals like yourself.

Yes! Well said my man! Me 2!

Be quiet you nigger faggot. Go be a whiteknight somewhere else

The funny thing is the burden of proof will be on you if I posed a risk to you in terms of loss of life. In other words you’d go to jail and be getting analy raped on the daily.
Funny you think your are morally correct but the law doesn’t.

the nigger faggot in the room is you. a weabo who can't get a girl without taking advantage of a passed out one. you're a fucking basement dweller, fuck off

frankly you'd be dead and we'd have one less asshole on the street.

You're a fag OP. Hope you pass out in the street and someone see's that asshole as "public offer"

If You wont mind when i steal Your wallet and phone when youre passed out then it isnt wrong :)

Yeah, he would just cum in you open mouth while you were passed out. Nothing wrong with that. Right?

If only we had some sort of video recording device readily at hand. One that could possibly call the police as well

I fucked a prostitute in a seedy motel room who passed out from herioin......is that considered rape?

Yeah..loss of life. Vigilante justice never goes the way you expect it. From just playing devils advocate you guys got pretty weak arguments.

Do you sharpen the brim of your fedora?

>morally wrong ?
>asks on Yea Forums

Pick one.

Would you think it was morally wrong if some dude came up to you passed out drunk and fucked you with a condom on?

So if I fucked you in the ass while you were passed out drunk with a condom you will be cool with it?

If you paid for it and filmed it then its jjst simply fetish porn, if you paid for sex, but didnt film it then mother fucker of course what you did is morally wrong. How can you be so stupid to not think its wrong to do such a thing? If you dont fucking film it, its prostitution, and prostitution is a horrible thing! Gain some commen sense next time, and have a camera, and a permit so its legal, and just a porno.

Condom??raw dog the drunk girl laying in the street is my nickname.

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>weaboo
Far off, matter of fact I hate anime and the fags who watch it.
Also, tell me how you really feel please. You seem to have your jimmies rustled

Same way OP would be fine with someone clearing his bank account out if he dropped his bank card on the floor. Should have taken more care what else would you expect right?

That said person would also need his PIN number. Cant get that from a blackout drunk person who is already passed out and gone. But I see your point

Lots of time the pin is written on the card.

Wow that took a gay turn.sounds like someone likes you.jelly

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mostly a false one to minimize the chance to hit the right one

I mean identity theft happens all the time...don’t see people crying victim. In this situation of the girl out cold in the street; ATM card on the floor, with the pin written in sharpie on the back. Did you just come up, or are you “raping” someone?

PIN number is 4 digits. Ones on the back are only 3 and those arent even associated with the PIN. Just used to verify the card number

>She won't remember
then you're not doing it right

but all kidding aside, it doesn't work like that IRL. passed-out people wake up all the time. certainly from something as traumatic as being raped. even when they don't wake up during, there's a pretty good chance they will feel that the vagina received a pounding when it wasn't in to it. yes, pussies are incredibly stretchable, but that's when the owner is into it. when she's not, there's bound to be some tissue damage, which she will notice.

also, condoms break. stds (like herpes) get transmitted even with condoms.

perfect crimes are extremely hard to pull off IRL

Because sex is part of a womans value, it's not really part of a mans.

I think he meant that people are dumb enough to write their own number just to not forget it

>Also the burden of proof is on you Sir. How is it not wrong?
That's not how it works, you know?

Thats for prepaid visa and mastercards and whatnot. Not a bank issued card

You are fucking retarded

I opine that if she gives herself away like that, she's bound to get raped, and if it happened, it's ok.

There is a reason why the world is so shit nowadays, and it's because liberals and lefties are being more and more prominent with their stupid immoral ideas.

I'm sure he could use the protein

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>Lots of time the pin is written on the card.
Can you stop with the BLATANT BULLSHIT? No one does that, not LOTS of times at least, and if someone does, they deserver to be robbed/scammed.

PIECE OF SHIT LYING RETARD.

idk op, would it be morally wrong to fuck you in the ass while you are passed out drunk?

As long as they use a condom.

Rape in general is morally wrong you fucktard, there is no way to justify it

Well...shit. Gotta day when you put it like that yeah I would look at it like I came up on free money.

yeah, on the crack of your ass. do you lie about everything or only on days with a y in them?

I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but you might get off on that too. You know, the whole fucking of a brain dead individual...

Aww hunny youre gonna break my heart.

OP, so if you're passed out on the street- it's totally OK for me to just pull down your pants and buttfuck you repeatedly until you wake up and tell us to stop?

I was wondering if you wanted to go out drinking later? What city do you live in?

What if a man slept the same way passed out and a gay man ravaged his asshole? Where would your moral standing on that be?

The entire reason you don't see the moral corruption is because you don't view women as fucking people man.

Which one of the cunts hurt you so badly?

Yea Forums so sad

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Too much alcohol IS a thing.

They might still be in a relationship, it's frowned upon to rape someone's woman. In muslim countries, the males will hunt you down. In western countries, pretty much the same. It's a universal thing related to primal instincts, not just a cultural thing.

This is a similar situation - you angered someone by raping their woman and knew they would get angry, it's your fault for getting stabbed to death etc.

"Not much is lost since he was scum anyway" etc.

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Everyone makes mistakes. You shouldn’t get fucked for it. Not everyone has empathy. You’re just no good, OP. You could never understand

>be me
>in college at party
>get hammered smoke some doob
>just need to get my head straight, sit on couch
>pass out cold
>wake up, 3 AM all my buds laughing
>drunk fat girl who stayed too long at party decided to blow me
>pants around my ankles
>fat cow girl slobber all over my nuts
>dick is only half hard because whisky dick, but still getting blown
>I look down, see fat cow sucking on my cock
>friends laughing
>can't even think about cumming because too drunk
>stand up, fat cow tries to keep going on her knees
>push her head back, pull up my pants, go take a piss, feel like puking for a bit but manage to hold it together.
>finally come out, girl is gone, guess I hurt her feelings or something
>next day, my friends are still laughing and slapping me on the back

Difference between men and women. I got "raped", and my pals still think its funny - but so do I. Never saw the fat cow again.

Flip that script and just imagine the screaming butthurt from all the feminists.

>ravage
So it's ok as long as you don't ravage them? Say a 4incher raping a high mileage whore?
She wouldn't even feel something after waking up as opposed to someone with a destroyed anus

Why are you such a desperate loser you need to fuck a passed out chick. Half the population is female Im sure you can find one thats willing to suck your dick.

>Can anybody prove to me that fucking a drunk chick passed out in the street, while wearing a condom, is morally wrong ?

Let's change roles here:

YOU lie passed out in the street and some guy fucks you in the ass wearing a condom.

Would that feel wrong to you?

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You literally are arguing to argue and stroke your ego, not understand how people really feel. Find someone willing to have sex with you or beat your dick, that idiot sleeping in the street wasn’t thinking, but just because you make a bad decision doesn’t mean you’re now everyone’s bitch

men are supposed to look out for women in real life, boys. its all fun and games on the interwebz being all edgy and shit, but in the real world, you are SUPPOSED to be the fucking white knight. That means you see a chick passed out in the street, you make sure she gets taken care of, gets a ride home, gets turned over to someone who will look after her and not let her get raped by a nigger, because only a fucking nigger, white or black, takes advantage of a helpless woman.

not a popular opinion since most of you are 14 year old edgelords, but that is the simple truth. men are designed to protect women and children, period. that is your fucking job in life.

>Morality is subjective.
>Proof is objective.
>By definition, no one can ever "prove" a stance on a subjective issue.
Nice b8 m8

>evading the question this hard
What's wrong with sticking it in someone unconscious as long as there's isn't any physical harm done to any of their orifices and they odn't find out?

Morally it is wrong by western values. Being passed out in public isn't consent to be fucked by anyone who walks by.

because you'll wake up the next morning and have to look at a total scumbag in the mirror.

I really respect that point of view, chivalry is dead though user. Look I spent a large portion of me years trying to be that. I got so much shit from both the guys friends and the girls for being “over protective”.
After a while I quit trying I now see our generation is all about “getting what you can, and taking what you want” call it whatever you like

that is why the millenials will be the architects of their own destruction.

women aren't helping either with their insistence that they can "do it all" and that a man trying to help them is repressing them somehow. they've been brainwashed by the feminist lezzy nazi patrol I guess.

still, you can't go wrong doing the right thing, generally.

Hmmmm...who think was him..!?!

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How are you a total scumbag if you don't hurt someone physically or psychologically in any way?

> writes notes.
> sighs
On a scale from paki to niggers, how shitskin are you?

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well, if you fucked a baby they probably wouldn't remember it either, right? say you just fuck them in the mouth so you don't damage them at all.

technically, they are not "hurt." but realistically YOU are a fucking scumbag. prove there is a difference.

Besides the top of your head, do you have a point?

if a tree falls in the woods of course it makes noise. using thought experiments to dance your way around justifying rape makes you a fucking moron.

If am sjw love with dyed hair raped used your dick while you were unconscious is it morally wrong? You would propbaly enjoy it so it's ok right?

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What’s wrong is they didn’t want to get fucked and you fucked them? Just because they got drunk and are unconscious doesn’t mean they want to be fucked or should be fucked? You say you never put yourself in a bad situation but you’re out here thinking that what you’re saying is okay. If someone is okay with getting their throat slit if they’re not looking is it okay if they do it to others? The world doesn’t need psychopaths like you so keep hiding in your house idiot

Not exactly but the point seem the same if no one is there to confirm the rape occurred in the first place did it happen. In essence if he is pointing out just because you can get away with the crime doesn’t make it right. The anons previous post about the bear and A1 sauce does point out that in a sense the women also needs to take responsibility as well. I thought he made good points without being an incel asshole.

See? Right there some dude should have been looking out for that girl instead of acting like a douchebag and taking a picture of her with a bottle up her puss.

You have choices in life, gentlemen, either you are going to go through life behaving like a White Knight or a Fucking Nigger.

Since there is no more penalty in this world for behaving like a savage, you get to choose which one. At least the White Knight will die knowing he didn't leave a trail of garbage and shit in his wake, whereas the Nigger just leaves behind a bunch of people who are glad he is dead.

Incel?

Why aren't you the trendy little hipster....

Why so many redditors on b nowadays? Sounds like everyone in tnis thread is trying to get upvotes

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Giving a similar example of scumbag behaviour without explaining what makes it's scumbaggy is not an argument.
Slitting someone's throat has huge, irreversible consequences on their life and that of everyone else they know.
Fucking a passed out whore makes no difference to the world whatsoever.

It’s just sad to think that you people really believe that this is okay

Yeah but what are the odds she would go to the cops in time for evidence to be collected?

Especially in a context where the girl was so drunk she passed out....what is she even going to say?

>"I don't remember much of what happened, but I think someone probably raped me, please go arrest men until we find the right one"

What prosecutor in their right mind would take that case? Rape cases that actually get charged have lots of compelling evidence, because juries are not idiots and know that women invite this stuff on themselves all the time.

This is why detectives trick guys into talking to them, and trying to get an admission that sex happened or the girl was drunk (side tip: NEVER TALK TO POLICE), because otherwise there is simply zero evidence to go on.

A guy at my college got charged for rape, because he emailed an apology to the girl the day after he fucked her while she was passed out in bed. But guess what? He got found innocent, because the roommate in the next room heard no signs of struggle, and the girl also mentioned thinking the guy was attractive to her friends.

pfffft. "explain why fucking a baby makes me a scumbag". kek we must have been rejected by the debate team in 10th grade, eh jimmy?

Imagine being this easy to rile up.

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If it's so obvious why can't you?

Honestly this. There have been a few times where I might not have used my best judgment when presented with temptation. There might be a few unclaimed kids running around if the girls weren’t on BC.

If they don’t want to get fucked behind a dumpster or on a park bench they shouldn’t act/dress in an inviting manner.

was the guy who got his asshole ravaged wearing a revealing skirt, and spending the whole night flirting with gay guys and accepting free drinks from them? Did he know they all wanted to fuck him, and parade around enjoying the sexual attention?

If so...yeah, he deserved it.

Never used to be so full of SJW redditors

I think you misunderstand some of are point of views snowflake. While I don’t see it as “ok” I can also see it isn’t all that bad when compared two the violent rapes that occur.

exactly

what if some guys were bullying you, or sucker punched you and then beat you up?

this would be ten times worse than what you described, maybe more. there just isn't much worth complaining about here, but women want to make everything a massive drama that centers on them.

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>White Knight or a Fucking Nigger
Wow. False fucking dichotomies?
The alternative to these is a friend that takes opportunities. You don't bang a girl that's asleep, but you don't bow out if she hints to head for taking care of her either.
Be good to people, and allow them to be good to you, my man.

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Fucking a whore makes a difference to that whore and people close to that whore? She would know if she was fucked unless you gently, gently fuck her with a condom making sure there’s no way she would be harmed in any way because you’re so caring like that OP. At that point get a pocket pussy or your hand IDIOT. Understand some people have pride and don’t want to be used like trash even though you don’t could never empathize with another person in your life, please understand

Nah, just speaking the truth to a room full of cockroaches. Same net effect.

I'm sure this is bait because anyone that has to ask this question should be removed from society but yes, morally it's wrong.

Regardless of laws, you have a right to your own body and even if she's passed out naked, she's not giving you consent, morally.

> Inb4 the hoards of 12 year olds slut shaming.

Piss off you little faggots.

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>If a girl came and game me a blowjob using a condom I wouldn't mind.

That wasn't the question and a passed out pussy isn't an aroused pussy.

You're going to get raped in your asshole, with a condom, while you are passed out. Morally wrong or no?

Yeah it was. You just didn't join their threads. Now it's a small population, so you're noticing. Remember when Yea Forums got the dudes that threw a dog off a bridge in romania arrested? probably not. It was ~8 years ago, so you were probably still in elementary. But this is normal for here. Destroy assholes, laugh at people destroying themselves, fap to the worst humanity can bring, then go play video games. It's not much of a culture, but it's the one I most enjoy

>unless you
Let's say I do, what's wrong in that scenario?

Having safe sex is good nothing wong thare bro and it's safer when they're passed out they can't go all bitch crazy and cut your junk off bro you're in the clear

its wrong because if you are caught you get indecent exposer and you get put on a list

The whole point is that there is a difference between being a man and being a woman.

If you're passed out and a woman manages to get you hard somehow and hops on for a ride and gets off, then puts her clothes on and leaves, then you still got laid.

If you're a woman and you pass out and a guy pulls off your pants and fucks you, even with a condom, you just got your little pussy raped.

We call it "rape" because of who is doing it. Women cannot "rape" men - no matter what the feminists and uber SJW's want to say today. Only men can rape - either women, or other men.

And yes, this includes a 34 year old teacher blowing a 13 year old boy. That ain't rape, that is just his good fortune.

Sure it’s not as bad as raping her conscious but it doesn’t mean it should be taken lightly right? It doesn’t mean you can do it and it’s okay, right? Also fuck you for calling people snowflakes like that girl should wake up and be like “ well fuck my clit hurts, guess I gotta tie my boot straps and get goin”

>it's wrong because things could go wrong
You could say that about anything.

The right to control our own bodies is inviolable. Hence abortion being always okay and the right of those nincompoop antivaxers to refuse vaccination.
Refusing them access to public space since their disease carrying shitbags is a second, also good thing.

Your definition is stupid. And a woman could use a strap on even under your faggy insistence that only penetration of the victim constitutes rape.

this is Yea Forums ya fucking douche

that would be assault, (no pun intended) because she isn't using a real cock. stop being a fucking pussy definition-boi.

how about she looks after her damn self?

You can always stop and call 9 1 1 and have an officer cart her ass off to the drunk tank lol I'd personally rather be raped than to wake up in jail

This is why your argument is weak. This is your last leg. If you can fuck a girl and nothing happens to her and nothing’s wrong with her and she never knew, the only thing wrong is the morality of defiling her body without consent. You don’t see a problem in that because you would gladly get fucked if you never knew or got injured just like the whore you are, but other people do have a problem with that (that makes it not okay) so you can’t. But your hypothetical would never work so haha you lost

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As a woman I must say that having sex while not being into it hurts as hell and can cause tearing in the vagina. Forcing something in there will be extremely painful for her, so don't do it.

I remember when all of us worthless fucks got together to do something good, something at least of value for a moment

Yeah, you can't control someone, if you eliminate consent.

Fuck off, Dude

You’re dumb as fuck. If an ugly bitch fucked me or smd and I didn’t want it then I got my little pussy raped

Tit's and time stamp or get the fuck out nigger

That is the attitude of this modern millenial generation of men. So one day when your daughter gets passed around like party pack, just remember how cool it was to say "women need to look after they own selves" just like a fucking nigger. Your daughter will be just as raped, and you'll get to wonder why not even one little asshole thought enough of women to protect her.

THAT is the object lesson, gents. We protect other men's wives and daughters because we want our OWN wives and daughters protected. To behave otherwise is to invite the savages to fuck with someone you care about one day.

tits and time stamp or stfu

I don't care about your vagina tearing either

> Condom?
What the fuck is that?

quit larping and go clean you room, your moms been telling you to for months

Goddamn I'd love to see her nudes

Tell your buddies "I got the raep last night" and see how hard they laugh at you.

savages? you spelled nig nogs wrong

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Bro

If you need a debate to justify why it is wrong to violate someone else's body regardless of circumstance then you are already fucked

We get it, you are an angry neckbeard who can't get laid, so you lack all societal skills to function normally. You are mentally defective, I recommend you kill yourself.

this

You can’t control someone if you eliminate consent? Wtf are you talking about? How do you “eliminate” consent? If you’re controlling someone, consent doesnt really matter?

Thank you.

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uhhhhh maybe I'll just make it clear to my daughter that going to parties and drinking isn't acceptable behavior?

and tell her that if she does, this is exactly the kind of thing that she can expect to have happen.

through most of history, the only thing that qualified as rape was sex obtained with real violence (pinning someone down, hitting them, etc).

that is why it was considered so barbaric, and usually punished by hanging. hard to disagree with that solution honestly.

these days "rape" can be: mean words, regret, feeling "pressured", or really anything else at all.

if some dumb party slut passes out wearing a short skirt, maybe she learns a hard lesson that forces her to look at the world in a more adult way. nothing wrong with that.

Yeah it sucks how people don’t think guys can get raped and think it’s a joke, tell me something I don’t know

/thread

Kid,

Why you try to justify forced sex i.e. rape ?

Guess what, this isn't barbaric history. It's 2k19 bro, time to act like it. Lol just because you are a fucking idiot wanting to live in the dark ages does not mean the rest of the world is.

You sound like you would make a great muslim convert as this is the type of shit they spout.

Clearly you don't have kids yet - especially daughters. Someone fucks with your kid, you will lose your shit, trust me. Boy or girl, makes no difference.

thats because men can't get raped by women, only other men. Bubba can raep your ass good in da big house, but if buffy decides to grind one out on your semi-limp pecker while you're passed out on the couch you just got yourself a little something extra to talk about over beers in the future.

If you eliminate consent, then you eliminate the ability to dominate.

Not making sexual advances at people and getting accused of rape or any false accusations of rape sucks, but being a slithery slimy piece of shit snake and fucking a girl unconscious and pretending like nothing happened should still not be taken lightly

>clit hurts
Virgin detected

Raping that girl isn’t teaching her a lesson either

Im with you, especially with an 8 year old daughter, no keyboard warrior here or anything but you will good damn see me go insane and not stop till that mother fucker is dead if someone so much as puts a hand down her pants!

lol so because I will get all emotional, that makes me incorrect?

what the fuck is this argument even supposed to be?

women don't give a fuck about men these days or respect them at all.

defending women/promoting their interests doesn't make you a good person, it makes you a stupid cuck.

if women decide they want to have a nice, civilized society again, then that would change the conversation.

but if they want the freedom to fuck like animals and drink until they pass out, who cares?

Anime sucks now kid. It died with vhs.

i literally said forced sex (with actual violence) deserves hanging

also, in 2019, women are degraded, entitled sluts who demand men do whatever they want, and offer nothing in return

if you want to be a spineless beta male, enjoy yourself

Imo like the other user started conscious violation is terrible and painful. I agree that passed out drunk vs conscious and aware or not the same in term of rape and should be labeled differently.

It’s rape if I’m pinned down and a girl is riding my dick, unless I’m like fuck yeah. If some nasty herpes infested whore went around drugging dudes and fucking them, do you think they’re all lucky son of a guns who got a nice story to tell while crackin a cold one with the boys?

Exactly. Everyone has an opinion about it - until they actually HAVE kids, then woe unto him who decides to mess with our child.

Go for it. Can't blame you, I blame her!
What a degenerate she is to run around in those clothes, pass out drunk on the sidewalk..
If that was my daughter, I still wouldn't blame you.. degenerate, stupid and unworthy behaviour

Nobody can actually prove that to you because what we define as "moral" or "immoral" is just a fancy way of saying "I approve of this" or "I don't like this."

So you can get people's opinions on it. But asking them to quanifty something that is just their approval is an impossibility.

tl;dr you can't prove feelings.

Pretty much, yeah. They would have eventually fucked a herpes whore anyway - we all do eventually - tell me you haven't and I'll say "yet".

>enable your daughter to get a train of niggers run on her every weekend while drunk at parties
>pretend you're some kind of actual father figure, instead of an unbelievably pathetic cuck

I’m calling you snowflakes because it’s true. Maybe you have yet to see the world, but there is was worse shit out there. We have a situation where a female willing put her in a situation with a high probability she would be assualted and we all stand around and gawk that she was. Yet no one asks why she was there in the first place and sees that she needs to shoulder “some” of the responsibility.

Smart user here

Yes, it is

Women believe they are entitled to do anything they want without any consequences, and that everyone *has* to be nice to them.

This would be a needed wake up call in the opposite direction.

The world is not their oyster. Their actions have consequences. They aren't invincible.

Things their pathetic white knight fathers never taught them, in other words.

Lol be a spineless beta for not believing in forcing sex upon someone or violating someone's body

Ok bro

Not sure what sluts you are exposed to but I am guessing not many
Or you are in fact the spineless beta for allowing trash women to exert any control over you.

Plenty of decent people out there across either sex
Maybe stop being such a piece of shit yourself and you will attract good women ???

She’d be getting fucked right there on the floor.

> degraded
>entitled

Lol all people are entitled to consequences for their actions

Like sure go rape a drunk girl
Your consequence is jail as that is still a fucking retarded thing to do.

The neckbeard is strong in you, I am thinking you will die alone

Still morally wrong. You're taking away that person's autonomy.

Fucking thank you!!

I was a D1 athlete and in a fraternity in college.

Part of what red pilled me was seeing how women behave around men they actually want, then seeing the excuses they make for it the next morning.

I remember one girl basically told me she felt I had "pressured" her, then agreed I hadn't when I made it clear I wouldn't tell her boyfriend what happened.

Women never want to accept responsibility for what they do, EVER. As a society we're making a massive mistake enabling them to do that.

The more good looking a girl is, the more social clout she has, and the less she will accept responsibility for anything.

So until women decide they want to behave like adults, why should they be treated like them?

Why should you be held accountable to someone who would NEVER hold themselves accountable if they did something wrong to you?

Why you gotta diss rich like that

you're welcome sir, I tip my fedora to you.

You’re that guy who tries to add something to the argument and keeps rolling with the bullshit that flew out your mouth

honestly. beating you up reall bad in the street in the evening/ night would be ok too. If someone came and beated you just for being drunk in public would be ok too.
saying that girls give nothing in return is such an incel sentence to say.
the fact that you have never dated anyone and if you dated, you were treated badly.
and do you know why?
because you deserved it. you seem likea person, who blames everyone else for their actions and fails to see any imperfections in oneself. you really need to look in the mirror and ask yourself one qestion:
Are you retarded?

Yes it is morally wrong because:

1. No conciousness. Lack of counciousness is a determinant factor in any circumstance, even for animals.
2. Physical disadvantage. Due to the lack of consciousness, no resistance can be opposed and most chances are ther would be if the stupid whore was conscious.

It's better (and morally more acceptable) to fuck her while she is half conscious and she is actively participating with some level of consciousness. You can easily trick them info fucking you. That's a different thing. But fucking an unconscious body is just wrong.

You act like people have never seen worse things than you. There are worse things out there, but isn’t it a good thing that we’re trying to fix these problems, even if it’s minuscule to other problems we have? We start somewhere, we’re not starting by killing China and enslaving Niggers just yet

WOMEN ! Believe this? Or one woman that u had an experience with. You are an idiot !

>says "beated you up"
>asks if I'm retarded

Learn basic grammar and spelling before expressing an opinion, dumbass.

As for not having dated anyone, let me tell you a story.

My senior year of college, my roommate was hung up on this freshman girl who was super hot. Very petite, 5'0 and on the dance team. Beautiful face and tight body.

He did everything to try and win her over. Brought her to our frat, took her to a pet store to get food for her hamster (yeah she had a hamster which was honestly weird, it was named Mario I think), and more.

Mean time, I would occasionally saunter in and out of the room with hoes, or smelling like booze and smoke.

One night she jumped me and we dated for like 8 weeks after (basically me fucking her before then dumping her).

Seeing how women treat other men was the wake up call. I got lucky in life. White, good looking, wealthy parents, etc. I just assumed everyone got treated like me.

NOPE! I watched women treat men much worse than they would a dog, and they didn't give a fuck EVER. If a guy tried to protest, he was a "creep".

But I am supposed to care if these women feel violated.

Not happening bro.

Peace core, yeah seen some shit. Also no i don’t think I’ve seen it all. To your point all problems are worth fixing or improving just a little; this problem stems from the passed out girl being there in the first place. You are getting stuck on what the final action is (rape) but ignoring the root cause (female not being responsible). All I’m saying is expect the worse possible scenario, the world owes you no favors.

Lol so you were a bro dawg plus a frat boi

Pretty much the definition of college fucking idiot

Until you decide to act like an adult (who respects people's right to their body etc regardless of what they decide to do or not) when why treat you like one ?

Grow up son and realize there are shit people of both sexes

Yup you are too far gone bro

Stick by my first point; kill yourself and make the world a better place with your death.

Very few women do whatever they want and think they don’t have consequences. Just like all people they get hit with reality checks? I wouldn’t wish rape upon anyone as a lesson learnt

lets try it then if you need to know
where do live and what is your name son?

I don't even see people in frats and which go to parties every weekend as recpectable persons.
That kind of people are just entertainment objects. I wouldn't give a fuck if someone "raped" a complete thot just because of "consent".

I speak 4 languages you dipshit. If you have no arguments and start attacking someone's grammar you already lost.
> I would occasionally saunter in and out of the room with hoes, or smelling like booze and smoke.
>Seeing how women treat other men was the wake up call
>fucks his friend's crush
"Omg all girls are the same cheating sluts"
says user, the chad

my dick's small enough she wouldn't even have noticed. as long as pics weren't taken and shared, I don't see the problem.

>start out thinking you have a point
>reduced to calling the smarter person an idiot

If you can make a real argument, do it.

Otherwise, consider you might be wrong- even if you FEEL you might be right!

I know, it's a tough thing. You can feel one way, even though reality is another.

yea dude, you sorrounded yourself with the human equivalent of trash, and then wonder why the people(specifically women) around you arent the most upstanding people

Ive never met a frat girl or the dudes they sorround themselves with that arent annoying bitches.

try talking to real people and your pessmistic, twisted, "red pilled" world view might change a little bit

everyone should be accountable for their actions.
Seems to me that you only hang out with people who are not. Maybe the fault is in you and your choise of friends?
the world is not that fucked up.
From your POV every girl is a crazy slut that gets black out drunk every weekend

In my world all of the girls that I know have only have fucked one guy and have never been black out drunk. They might have up to three beers once in two weeks. Or maybe even once a month.
and all of those girls are more that 7.
seriously loook around and think about your life choices, chad

>Women never want to accept responsibility for what they do, EVER. As a society we're making a massive mistake enabling them to do that.

So not to detract from the neckbeards on here who are raging because they just wish they could actually be invited to a party where someone might actually have something other than a Nintendo Wii and Hot Pockets - but...

THIS user has a point. I'm a grown ass man with a gf and ex wife and tons of dating experience and this is totally and utterly true. My ex was a high-end professional (lawyer) and she NEVER would take the blame for anything, even when she clearly fucked up. gf is the same way - not her fault that the car ran out of gas she wasn't paying attention to the gauge and the car should tell her more often that its getting low, etc, while its still my responsibility to show up with a gas can in the middle of the night because she can't walk 4 blocks to the gas station or call AAA because "raep" possibilities.

Honestly, sometimes I wish I didn't have a cock. Would have saved me a fuck-ton of money and trouble over the years, but I do enjoy fucking them, so I guess I'm going to have to continue to put up with women. C'est la vie.

The main argument is reciprocity.

In a healthy society, the sexes have reciprocal obligations to one another, including behavioral standards.

The reason men prioritized women's comfort is because they had total power over the women. Therefore, taking perfect care of women was a demonstration of using that power responsibly.

In exchange, women behaved and did what you told them, men were unquestionable heads of their households, and your wife couldn't leave with half your stuff because she felt like it.

These days, women want the same attention paid to their comfort, without any of the dignified behavior standards or restrictions of the past. That doesn't work, because they are getting tremendous value from men without giving anything in return. It's like loaning someone money without getting interest payments.

You can do it, but you're just a cuck.

Yeah man, you feel right that an entire sex is seemingly unaccountable for their actions and can be violated/raped etc. etc.

Must be tough looking around society seeing through your neckbeard glasses knowing that those things (i.e. rape of a drunk girl) are actually illegal, even though you think it is the right thing to do.

You talk about reality, reality is yes it is illegal and morally wrong (go ahead find data to support raping a drunk girl is morally right I expect you'll have a hard time except in similar neckbeard forums/groups) to rape a drunk girl.

I called you a fucking idiot as go look at bro dawg frat faggot mentality and see what idiocy really is

yes and in the past if a man cried he got beheaded because he was a "faggot"
nowadays men's emotional needs are also being met. Just like women's.
Women work . men work.
Women care. Men care.
women show emotions. men show emotions.
I honestly don't know what's your problem. did you mom treat your father badly?
or did you father beat your mom and you see him as a role model? because I can see really deep issues with you, man

I believe you have encapsulated the entire truth in this one post. I will copypasta now. Thank you.

Found the faggot who has never been married or had a woman take most of his stuff when she runs off with Chad.

fucking incels. just kill yourselves already. Nobody want to be with neither of you, therefore you are looking to enslave someone, just so that you could justify your bad obour and fucked up character

This. The burden of proof is actually on you guys to prove it's wrong and staggeringly you're all somehow failing.

Men and women are inherently different and shouldn't have the same role in society. That produces a damaged society with a lot of dysfunction, which is what we have now.

They need different, well defined roles with rules and obligations to keep them from being degenerate.

I am also laughing about the whole beheading/faggot thing. I don't think that happened ever, but the idea of a couple knights dragging some poor serf away because he was a "faggot" who cried is oddly funny.

found a faggot who definitely did

im a bi dude. I've spent time dating, fucking, and having flings with both men and women.
what your describing is the qualms in being in a close relationship with someone, not a female quality.

most people are kinda garbage, and have such a little spine that they cant admit verbally that they are wrong. its a problem
your a good guy if you can

there are so many arguments above on why it's morally wrong and yet you fail to see it. it's like taking to an antivaxer or a flat earther. sad really

If you passed out drunk in the street with a condom in your ass and a random dude fucked you in the ass, is that okay?

If not, duh. If you're fine with it, you seem like a moral nihilist in which case maybe there is nothing wrong with it in your eyes; but also the question wouldn't matter at that point to you either.

Prognosis: OP is "gifted but dark" 13 y.o. divorcee child or thread is bait.

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>calls a guy who has seen more pussy than a toilet seat at Dodger Staduim an "incel"

Sure bub. I don't know nothin' about no wommens. You go on now, and believe what you want to believe - that is all good an fine.

The beauty of being an older fucker is that you know eventually all the younger fuckers will realize you are right. That is why we smile at you when you screech at us "how it is today, old man!!!"

kek. make me laugh some more, sonny.

does a karate kick to your face make a sound if no one else is around to hear it?

Why is it that guys who have fucked a lot of women, or at least have experience with women via marriage, all seem to agree on the following two things?

>Women do not like accepting responsibility
>Men and women are inherently different

Doing anything to someone, that they would oppose to is morally wrong. Ah derp. Morally. Non human animals walk around all day with their pussy exposed. Do you fuck it? Why not?

No

if you were passed out drunk on the street (maybe somebody spiced your drink but who cares? you should't take your eyes off that drink anyway"
and i was carrying some vaseline in my purse
and i just happened to love your ass and decided to fuck it
with a condom ofc.
you said something about "self lubricating vagina". well i'll mechanically lubricate your ass
both she and you would wake up with painfull bottoms
so is it wrong?
yes. definitely.
Ass hurts. Pussy hurts. Even if she is passed out, it will hurt tomorrow. even if your dick is small.
you might as well just fuck an animal because it's "weak" and it's job is to "entertain you"
It won't be able to tell the police also
You might work as a caregiver in a carehome or a psych ward and fuck someone.
It never get's figured out unless patiens get pregnant.
Every single scenario is the same.
yes the girl is passed out. But it might be because somebody spiced her drink.
maybe it's her first time drinking and she doesn't know her limits.
maybe she went through a heartbreak

I never really thought that there can be such morally wrong people out there.
And guys like you claim that there is no "Rape coulture" while all that you were trying to prove is that girls "Are made to please their man and are begging to be raped"

Guys like you, not sjw , are ehat's wrong with society (altho i hate sjw. but you are much worse)

everyone refuses to take responsibility. we live in a spineless society
it has nothing to specifically to do with women

men and women being inherently different cant be argued though

what if I have a vasectomy and no STDs?

Exactly. Because we have actual "experience" with women, as opposed to the theoretical neckbeards on here who are hoping one day that the non-binary blue haired person with the big tits down the hall will come over and play TF2 with them.

Swear to god, older I get the more I sound like my grandfather used to when he'd rail on about how you "can't trust a woman nor a nigger!"

My gf always takes responsibility for whatever she does. Even if it's my fault, she will acnowledge her part in whatever happened. I forgot to put the milk in the fridge? She will apologise for not reminding me.
We are in a loving, mutualy respetfull relationip and have been in one for 6 years.
it's not my fault that guys like you can't find anything decent and just settle for whatever the fuck spread their legs for them

>I forgot to put the milk in the fridge? She will apologise for not reminding me.

Sounds retarded, just means you're the controlling psychopath in your relationship instead of her. You might as well be a woman, faggot.

^ This user gets it.

Your cops don't rape drunks? Lucky SOB

I understand that in this hypothetical she’s a slut and dancing on guys before and whatnot but I don’t think it’s insane to think people shouldn’t be raped even if they have a skirt on or big tits. Yeah don’t get blackout drunk by yourself, but come on have none of you ever hugged a toilet and been helpless before? Why should we fear for our assholes every time we slip up?

>attempts to disprove that women are bad at taking responsibility for things
>points out that girlfriend takes responsibility for things she doesn't do, meaning she doesn't really understand the notion of being "responsible" for something at all

"I forgot to put the milk in the fridge, honey bunny"
"That's ok, I'm sorry I forgot to remind you"

Holy shit. Sounds like you guys got one fucked up relationship right there.

>a girl is respectfull in a relationship = a guy if a controling sociopath
>a girl doesn't take responsibility = a guy is a cuck

If there is no actual harm done then I don't see why you wouldn't do that.

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we never fucking fight. ever. if we have an issue we just talk abuout it and try to resolve it.
fuck me for being in a healthy relationship, right?

this

I dont know why both femenazis, and gross old 4channers both try to generalize the opposite genders so much
i feel like ive read "men do not accept responsibility" on far left tumblr blogs, just as much as I've seen fags on Yea Forums say it
yall are all the same, retards who want to blame their misfortune on someone else

idk when people will realize generalzing groups of people is pretty fucking dumb

looks a bit like a GA drivers

thank you

this is a smart man talking

listen to this user

Of course it's morally wrong just imagine the situation reversed and you were drunk and passed out in the street would you be fine with a guy fucking you?

Some poor scrubs just don't get what a chill life is, and I guess assume nobody has faults? I have a bad short term memory and my gf is deaf. She reminds me of things. I explain sounds etc to her.

MY house:

Me: "Did you leave the fucking milk out AGAIN??"

Her: "I don't know, maybe I did, I'm not sure, I was on the phone with Becky and she was being such a bitch and I could have forgot, but its sitting right there and I'm not the only one in the house you could have put it away too you know because it isn't my job to do everything around here you know"

Me: "This is the 3rd gallon of fucking milk I'm having to buy because you keep leaving it out on the god damned counter when you're facebooking with your fucking friends!!"

Her: "I don't understand why you're being so mean, I can believe you I'm having my period too and the cramps are awful and so what I forgot some stupid milk so you could have your Lucky Charms like what grown man still eats kids cereal and the doctor said your cholesterol is too high anyway and you shouldn't be drinking so much milk and I gave you that backrub on valentines day and all you did was buy me a lousy card BOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Me: "Sorry honey, it's ok.. it's only milk.. ok honey, you can stop crying now baby..."

Tell me that ain't exactly how it goes, married Yea Forumsro's. kek.

Nice girls tend to end up with abusive or controling guys
Nice guys tend to end up with abusive or controling girls
sad reality
yes there are healthy couples
it's just that the bad things are always louder and easier to remember

sound like an abusive relationship to me. maybe there are some thing that you guys need to talk about

Sounds like you don't know shit about women. kek

both you and your wife sound like idiots

Milk takes a long time to spoil, retard. It doesn't matter if it's sitting out a while. You should kys.

I am a woman. And I would never do such a thing, because I love my fiance and I always try not to say anything that would hurt me, if I was in his place

furthermore I give him a massage every evening.
I don't know, it seems to me, that in your wolrd every girl is a bitch. maybe I should start bitching too, since, you know, I don't exist?

I don't know why people are so aspy about this. Just take on the perspective of the person on the receiving end. Would you yourself be ok with me shoving my fat cock in your ass? Probably not man

kek to the max, larper. The whole point that any man who has actually been married would know is that ANYTHING a woman does wrong she won't accept responsibility for it and if you call her out on it she will, in some way or fashion, turn it around so it is no longer about what SHE did, it'll be about something YOU did (or didn't) do.

Broads. They are all the same. If they didn't have pussies, they'd be the loneliest people on earth. And that is what we call a fact, Jack.

reference
im guessing you just got through a rough divorce? go back to your blogspace faggot

feminazis talks the same way about men
Feel the hypocrisy?

Nope. Don't care what Feminazi's say about me. I got a cock and they don't. That is again, a fact.

you played yourself.
I have a pussy. An i don't care what men say, since i can do whatever the fuck I want and not take any responsibility.
I have the power because i have a pusy and all men think with their cocks

A solid argument
isn't it

So if you blacked out, woke up, and somebody fucked you you're saying you'd be fine as long as there was a condom? You're a straight up faggot and you're literally admitting to being ok to being raped.

What would a vasectomy have to do with being raped in terms of it being ok?

Would be, except that since you have a pussy you DO care what people think - pretty much ALL the people. That is just how girls are. Even if you're a dyke, you worry if your ass looks too fat in those jeans, etc.

Broads are walking talking "need for approval" machines. That is why you should come back as a dude next life. We just have to make money to get approval.

Paul Allen was one ugly bald nerd motherfucker, but he had $80 Billion in the bank, so he fucked supermodels on his 500 foot yacht.

i can see one good thing in that - retard like him won't procriate

> girls care what people think, so it's wrong
> guys need the aproval so it's ok
literally the same thing

can't get a woman the normal way without resorting to raping some passed out chick?

No - not the same thing at all. Jesus, are you intentionally being stupid or were you born this way?

Men don't care what people say about them, they want money. Men can work solo or in groups. Women cannot do shit by themselves. When men get money, they fuck who they want and don't care what people think about them - because they have the money. Women can be filthy rich and still get butthurt if someone doesn't like their earrings.

If you do not agree with me it is because you are too young or intentionally stupid not to recognize how the world actually works.

it seems to me like you are the one being intentionally stupid. Smart women know, that looking good gives them the advantage. You know how amazing it feels to be both smart and pretty and avoid the "pretty but stupid" girl cliche?
Men love to look good too. that's why rich guys fuck models because they need to show off their riches. and even if they are fat and ugly, they still fuck models, because it helps them to feel desired.
Some rich guys buff up. others dont but they do it to get the pretty girls attention. all of it is just so they could fuck a model

Women can achieve anything that they want. most of them don't because they choose family over their career.

Howcome all the successful women are single?
Maybe because most of them are not as shallow as you imagine
maybe because stop putting people in categories, that please you. I can find examples of narcissistic guys. You can find examples of shallow women.

The world is not black and white

And I'm not saying that women are better than men.
because you are probably going to twist my sentences

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I used to have an opinion on this until I looked at my gf's (ex) phone and saw her text to her friend about how she cant wait to be drunk all weekend at a festival and Hope's she gets taken advantage of by a ton of guys.

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Going to parties and drinking IS acceptable behavior. Raping people isn't.

The adult world is filled with parties and drinking, the MAJORITY of adults drink. It's ridiculous to punish people for expected behavior that directly hurts no one else except themselves (drinking). It's not ridiculous to punish people for unexpected behavior that has a high chance of hurting others (rape).

they literally inserted a fucking bottle inside of her
you think that doesn't cause nay tears?
she has cum all over
FUCKING HERPES AND CERVICAL CANCER
They are all inside of smds houses. clearly they felt llike noones is going to rape them, because the dudes seemed ok

clearly that wasnt the case
fucking rapists
A fucking murderer is less dusgusting than a rapist. i wish you all developed sciatica and multiple sclerosis and died a slow devastating and painful death

dude chill it's a staged pic by fucking rachelgetsravished

for you my dear...

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google shows no such thing

Age of consent, over 18. Some states 16. Consent- Verbalizing or generating body hand , foot type language. A person can be charged for rape of their spouse, when Unconscious. Let alone coming across drunk road kill. Then on the outer hand My wife is a slant eyed lola. Some times I wake with her riding me, I always say Love to be raped by my Little Mama.

tumblr porn apocalypse victim

rip

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Getting money is never a solo activity, it requires an entire functioning society with a working currency to happen. Men can't do shit by themselves, that's just a lie you tell yourself to get the high that comes with unwarranted self-importance.

aint him, but who still says hipster? what is this 2013?

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So you're saying its okay to rape her in the pussy, but her butthole is off limits?

This

Ya all need whores

why you are here? if you dont like what you see..change the channel or go to the church

>ya all

wow that's just the darndest thing ive read all day.

Fucking madman

What's the point? Just go fuck a fleshlight and leave defenseless people alone.

bitches get, what bitches need...no one told them to drink too much...

noone told you to rape
That's the same as saying "it's your fault for being set on fire for wearing carbon based clothes"

I remember before all this PC Me Too shit, a girl got passed out drunk at a party. 3 of us took turns on her while she was passed out, like what did she expect, she came to a party at a guys place where all she knew was one other girl, and when she left with her boyfriend, she stayed and partied. We used condoms, I mean, we're not animals, but we fucked her good, and even though when she woke up she was cool and asked for a ride home (which we gave her) she had to know she'd been fucked.

youre right, thats why I dont wear this clothes...

Check'em QUADS........but Fuck you SJW, girls NEED to be Fucked if they pass out in the wrong place

This is why you're a lonely faggot

this is why I *do* wear those kinda clothes...

I always have some pepper spray and dog-sperm with me in a syringe.

The human mind is a wonderfull thing, capable of inventing the wildest stories and encountering funny moments of collision with truth.

"So officer, i woke up and was all wounded and sore down there- and there was sticky grey goo- so i assumed, i ve been taken for a ride-"

I like Kant. I would not rape her, but help her getting up. You are all going to jail.
FBI

It´s your opinion.. no risk...no fun...no cum in pussy. But I prefer more the girls, how are able to speak and interact with me..Otherwise its like fucking a dead body...

>Help her up and carry her disoriented body to my place.
>Let her sleep on my bed as I sleep on the couch
>Deal with her freak out when she wakes up.
>Ask her if she's ok.
>"You don't have to tell me what happened, but you do have to eat this" as I hand her a bowl of eggs.
>Ask if she needs a ride home.
>Tell her to take care.

She would open her pussy to anyone if she were awaken anyway