Andrew Cuomo...

What do we do with them all, user? You automate the cashiers, the bus drivers, and the hole diggers, you can only say, "tough shit get a better job" for so long. We've increased our productivity by 1.5x over the past twenty years with no corresponding increase in actual hours worked. Once again, what do we do with all these people?

If a business in NYC of all places can't afford $15 per hour it's simple greed. Businesses that do not pay a living wage deserve to go out of business.

$15/hr in NY is barely enough living wage. It might be a lot for someone living in AL. But cost of living is different for every state. It should be up to individual states to mandate minimum wage. In-N-Out burgers in CA has been giving their burger flippers $15/hr since the early 90s.

Eat them

If wages had kept up with corporate profits (a rising tide lifts all boats?), the lowest wages would be far above $15 an hour.

Looks like all those tax cuts for ultra rich globalists didn't do jack shit to help the average worker after all.

Minimum wage should be $20 in NYC. And at least $12 in other places. Maybe $10 in really cheap remote places.

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Another great comic by Ben "I need to explain and label every aspect of my comic, because abstract thinking and metaphors are socialist propaganda" Garrison. Although he forgot to put "Democrats" or "Libtards" on the donkey, that D is waaaay to subtle for his style.

I dont get why there are always such extremes.

There are positives on both sides of the political and economic spectrum and I dont see why there are not more people willing to pick and choose the best elements from them.

For example -
$15 dollar minimum wage for fast food workers will clearly not work out as workers will probably be replaced by automated systems or expect one person to do the job of two. Anything to cut costs.

On the other side college loans and medical care bills in the US are ridiculous. Im not saying there has to be college or free medical but costs have to be managed somehow. Thousands if not millions of people are being put out of education and being healthy (both which contribute to the economy) simply because they cant afford those services.

Im not sympathizing with the lazy, but if youre poor its getting harder and harder to pull yourself out of poverty willingly. Thats not good for America,

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Send them to war

so you admit low paying jobs are going away?
what's not to love

Sex them

Depends on the area. $15 is too high in most places, but too low on NYC

this is why you don't tax the shit out of the middle class.

when work becomes cheap, savvy middle class people will hire them for new jobs in unforeseen fields.

every field that is bitching about being made irrelevant by automation tech was initially made possible by some other tech.

if you / your kids are going to sit and wait for whatever job is available, then yeah it might not pay a whole lot at first. that is why you work to stand out above your peers as a person and teach your children to be adaptable enough to enter into whichever field is booming at the time they enter the workforce.

if you want to sit around and retire from your first job, i'm sorry but its not 1960 anymore and you will be replaced by some idiot who is willing to temporarily work for less money (neither of you are demonstrating upward mobility).

To the people claiming that a $15 minimum wage would make McDonalds automate all the cashiers: do you honestly believe that if they could do this they wouldn’t? A minimum wage hike isn’t what’s holding them back. It’s an empty threat because they fear their profits being threatened.

You're implying that we "HAVE" to do something for these people. That's horseshit. Their jobs are obsolete. We don't have to hold their hands. Every obsolete job should be deleted, and the worker should find a new one that requires skill that they either need to learn or already have. If they can't find one here, then they need to act like every fucking immigrant who comes to America "looking for opportunity" and go to a new fucking country. Until America starts raising the expectation of what an average American should be able to do, there is no improving this country. Fuck off if you don't see that. I came from the poorest part of this country, and I'll have a PhD in Physics 4 years from now. There is absolutely nothing holding back people with actual determination to make themselves valuable. We need to stop babying these cunts who don't want to bring America into the future.

if worker skill sets kept up with technological innovation, businesses would have replaced minimum wage jobs with automation 10 years ago.

don't sit and wait for technology to make your job irrelevant. if you can't compete with a fucking bot, you should be happy as fuck to have any job offers at all.

$15 isn’t enough to afford rent in most of the United States, based on the theory that your rent should be 25% of your income.

I live in illinois and the system is definitely in place to incentivize people to remain on state aid. And for women to pop out as many kids as possible. Why would shaquisha get a job? she'll lose her food stamps, medical coverage, and her section 8. And if she 3 kids with 3 different fathers shes already getting her weed and cigarettes money

I think that's honestly too high for most McDonald's outside of NYC or San Francisco or other overpriced places.

They aren't going to automate shit. People will boycott the shit out of them if they do. Already a movement happening. Only buy from those who employ humans. Or every fucking restaurant will be like the fucking supermarket with 50 aisles and 2 cashiers. Then you use the autistic self checkout, which then requires a person to fix an issue 4/5 times anyway.

you can get dirt cheap rent in any place i've lived. if it still isn't enough, you can move with no questions asked. you don't even need a passport.

the real problem isn't the job market but people just living beyond their means because they've been taught they can blame it on the job market.

Yes it is. In PA a 3 bed house is $800 a month. It all depends on location. PA minimum wage should be like $10, but maybe $15 in Philadelphia

you've never been in a mcdonalds apparently. maybe SOME people will protest abstain from doing business with a kiosk. but they make most of their money off of people who are also living beyond their means and will purchase the product regardless--as long as the price tag is relatively cheap.

The problem is employers paying as little as possible, landlords charging as much as possible, and government aid going to corporations instead of people.

No you retard. Don't buy the braindead Boomer propaganda. Nobody is living above their means with student debt. There's people working 60 hours a week will living with their parents.

Fuck retards who think this absolute globalist propaganda BULLSHIT. this isn't 1980 ffs

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Yeah if you want to live with 2 other people. That’s fucked mate.

If they hired 2 people for $15 an hour that's better than 4 for $8 per hour. Fewer jobs that pay a living wage will put pressure to create more, or those businesses will go out it business eventually. Can't keep a business running if nobody can afford it anyway. And the ultra super elite aren't going to buy 100 million hamburgers a month.

Dude. An entire 3 bed house with a 3 acres backyard is $800 per month here

you want employers to pay down and landlords to charge up. if the opposite happens, the local economy collapses.

gov oligopoly policy doesn't apply to corps like mcdonalds. it makes the whole system inefficient, but to a scale that a minimum wage hike is going to fix.

everywhere the minimum wage goes up by gov mandate, the cost of living corrects and the same people are still poor. the difference is they will probably be worse off while the market corrects and their current employer can no longer afford to pay them even a poor man's wage.

Yeah when I looked it up it was about the same as other major metro areas. Gunna need to see this 3 bedroom for $800 a month.

Agreed. And the price of your "burger 'n' fries 'n' shake" should treble to pay for it.

if the job doesn't pay living wage, and leads to shady and overwork that destroys the family unit aaaaaaand produces an abandoned generation, we don't want it.

not every job is valuable.

You're forgetting the cost the businesses who rely on low wages use, i.e. when wages increase, they have to raise prices to counter it; thus, you end up in the same situation where CoL goes up, business costs go up, and they're unwilling to hire more people because their risk and expenses go up.

where is "here"?

Lol! The economy doesn’t collapse profit margins just decrease. Corporate fucks want you to think that their hands are tied and they’re doing everything they can to help the little guy, but that’s about as bullshit as their claim that they “came from nothing”

Stroudsburg Easton area. Dirt cheap. Some places $600. Stay far away from shit tier townhouses.

yeah, if you make payments on student debt and you have a minimum wage job: YOU ARE FUCKED.

why do you think the gov ensured that you can't default on student loan debt? if you would have asked a bank to give you a loan to hemorrhage cash for 4 years with no realistic plan of repayment or collateral they would have told you to fuck directly off.

the real problem with society is that people DONT go work within their means and we've had generations of people who have convinced themselves to DELAY going to work and wrack up debt instead.

the only way to fix a bubble is to let it burst. unfortunately, you got conned and you are inside the bubble. so you of all people need to really start striving to live within your means.

Of course not. The prices can easily stay the same even if they quintipled wages. It's called greed. Everyone who argues against minimum wage is basically arguing in favor of incessant greed. Because they're stupid.

not everyone can achieve a phd. it's a fact.
what do you propose to do with the surplus?

Could we not make burgers out of them?

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I'm leaving this country. That's how I'll "pay off" my debt. As far as I Care to.

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the economy tanking and an entire generation not being able to afford luxuries like eating out.

economy doesnt collapse overnight, but this OP mindset is that it already has. lower profit margins mean less trade, means less opportunity for all, means poor people bitch for socialist reform.

it is a collapse when the economy is so tight that enough people are calling for socialist non-opportunity that they can fuck together enough votes to win an office or pass a referendum.

just go to work and try to make that place more profitable, ever tried that before?

This is not a serious argument while the unemployment rate is around 3% People have been afraid of automation for a century. Maybe it will eventually come to pass, but it's definitely not here yet.

why pay $15/hr when you can just pay a one time cost of $8K.

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Are you fucking stupid? These Megacorp shit tier companies are literally siphoning money OUT of the us economy, not back info it.

A minimum wage job isn't intended to provide for independent living. People in this situation need to live with family or get roommates.

Because you still need to pay the repairman $60 per hour

that's the only way you'll get out of student debt. or enlist in the military and get them to pay it back for you. student debt is borderline illegal.

illegal because it cant be defaulted, and idiots like you shouldnt be held to that sort of burden. but here you are, sacked with debt and crying for the gov to give you a new solution.

if you took a death sentence for a viable solution the first time (when you signed that student loan), why would you expect a gov solution to actually help you the second time??

and you better LEAVE leave. they have unconstitutional rights to collect that money, so don't expect them to not drag your ass back if you just hop on a work visa.

it was a bad fucking deal, but the solution is paying it off. pay it off and don't sign bad deals in the future. same for you, same for the country. no more bad fucking deals, dumbass.

Are you retarded? Why are you assuming that people who earn PhDs are the only ones who are valuable? What a fucking stupid thing to assume. What are trade schools for? Fuck I don't even care about that. I'm talking about ANY job that can't be done by a robot. That's the job they do. They're aren't enough? Fucking move out of the city. Move out of the country. Why does America have to be "the land of opportunity"?

Dude I'm not crying to the gov. I'd rather cry to the airport. They'll take care of my debt before this corrupted government ever will.

we Dodd be paying a fair wage for ALL labor involved.

the real cost of industrial animal production should be accounted for.
the task cost of legal labor should be accounted for
the real cost of transportation should be accounted for
the real cost of the crew members should be accounted for
a $6 burger should cost closer to 15-18 dollars

obviously i've talked about the Dodd- Frank act recently

real*
cost*

No you fucking retard. Why do people believe this crap?

People should be paid $15 per hour and every burger should cost $2. But instead of 5000% profit they should make only 4000% profit. Do you see where the real problem is?

should*

have you considered working for one of them? as opposed to working for a socialist construct?

yes, socialists will "hire" you for your vote and "pay" you with handouts. but shit runs thin when you are spending other peoples' money and no one puts anything of value up for exchange.

if you are worth hiring, you can find a job. if you can't find a job, you aren't worth hiring. you'll find you CAN find a job of some sort, and the next step is to LEARN to live within your means.

why do you think the socialists will actually take care of you? your vote is next to worthless to them, they can just wait for an immigrant to take your place according to their demographics.

if you are truly struggling, live like an immigrant in this country for a couple years so you can save and work your way up within a company. you'll have the invaluable advantage over them in that you are LEGAL and speak the language already.

nah dawg, explain your arithmetic

Dude.. are you living in a pretend fantasy world? Jobs are extremely location specific. Socialists help themselves not others.

I'm leaving this shithole country ASAP. That's how I'm getting out of debt.

yeah, there won't be enough jobs. here or anywhere.

McDonalds pre tax margin last quarter was 37%

Greed + gullible stupid masses = $8 minimum wage and overpriced $6 burgers.

They can easily afford a $15 wage and selling burgers for $2. It's called greed.

That ass is too detailed. Cartoonist is a furry.

Do you have any idea how INSANE of a profit margin that is? Consider that the biggest insurance companies in the world are around 3%

you can see that mcd's prices of the same classic items have increased over the years while minimum wages also increased. meanwhile, the inflation of USD was far far slower.

also note how the same mcd's item has very different prices all throughout the US, just like minimum wages.

i'm not in disagreement. i'm just taking about paying the fair share at every level, not just the service level.

i'm 100% in agreement of $15 minimum wage, and would like to see higher in many urban centers

Okay you're living in fantasy land. No sense reasoning with the deluded

It varies by industry, but the point stands. There's only 37% on top of the raw costs to build a burger in profit. You can't cut the price by 75% and raise costs at the same time with that kind of margin, its just math.

not sure how i got misinterpreted. i think we agree

yes, that user is deluded

Don't take out loans that are too much for you to pay back. How hard is that to understand?

jobs are most generally up across the country. socialists are still crying for free money, regardless. yeah i wouldnt depend on a welfare net to fix bad debt. and the crime is likely to have been more on the people who lent you the debt than you for borrowing it, but America decides cases in absolutes.

i'd still just get a job and work here before i'd jump ship. unless you find another country ready to give you citizenship, that debt is going to haunt you to your grave.

Wrong it's actually much much higher. Overall profit is not profit per burger.

you're simply wrong. minimum wage was originally intended to provide for a 4 -person family home within one income provider

If you grow up poor there is no choice. Why don't you tell that to the rich? Oh right they don't make mistakes because they're born rich.

Let's kill all the rich and take their stuff.

you've bought into the idea that poor people don't deserve a family

ok, keep looking for jobs at mcds and buying your food from mcds. stay poor for all i care

Now you're just talking out your asshole.

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The fuck? Dude are you seriously fucking stupid? Too much propaganda fake news or something. Fantasy land with every post.

take the free k-12 education and get a job wasn't a choice?

Some fast food restaurants have tried automating the orders.There are too many choices and menus. It is quicker and easier to talk to a person. People only start using it when the line gets long.

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you've bought in to the idea that mcd's is a career path

Profit after all expenses is not profit per burger. Do you seriously believe it costs them $3 per burger on their end? Use common sense next time. It's more like 10 cents

>doesn't understand franchising

Bullshit. Kids have been in the workforce since the minimum wage existed. They're expected to be living with their families. The problem is that so many people are expecting to build a life around a job tweens could qualify for. If you want to be paid more you need to provide more value.

There are no jobs in certain areas. Again, absolute fantasy land.

well that's an easy fix. only have two people cooking. bam. everyone uses the kiosk, like at Wawa.

There are no jobs

k-12 education will get you a job at mcD's.

not exactly uplifting.

free college, which will prepare for 21st century jobs, however...

Hard to believe that affordable college, taxes, abortions, and carbon taxes are considered far far far left in the United States, and not just standard leftism. They really are living in a conservative nightmare over there.

3% unemployment begs to differ.

I really hope this is a troll and you aren't actually this stupid.

multiple layers of ownership doesn't invalidate capitalism.

and for the k-12 person who doesn't take out loans at an outrageous interest rate?

because those things involve more taxing, they've taxed so much, now they need new taxes, like taxing profit and payroll. we pay more for shit here than over there in Islamaland.

It's fake statistics you idiot. Are people this stupid?

When they stopped counting people who aren't working as unemployed (can you fucking believe that?) Then the statistics are fake.

Fantasy land

which news source am i apparently parroting that i argue employment is currently up and more lucrative?

which news source is telling me that saddling up with inescapable student debt in the 10s of thousands in exchange for a diploma would be a bad idea?

this is shit that people are too polite to tell you. you dont believe it? ok, but why are you here asking questions then if you already know all the answers? why are you poor and in debt when your peers aren't?

unemployment is only those drawing benefits. there are people who don't work/can't. they're not included in that 3%. /learn2cthinkcritically

You're expected to move or start a business in that situation.

no u
yeah, kids can work for minimum wage, but that's not why it was invented

You have to do something because idle hands are the devils workshop. Do you really want large, poor and desperate populations fucking shit up?

Jesus

Mainstream fake news. Who knows. Nobody I know has noticed any economic recovery. In fact another recession is coming.

Yeah, you pay more for shit like healthcare because when the rest of the world was figuring out how to keep people from dying from diabetes, you guys were convincing an entire generation that anything that is even related to "socialism" was created by Satan himself.

you are uninformed

That's how we got Trump. Not complaining though. He's the money president.

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I've seen the reports. The people not counted aren't looking. If they aren't looking, they can't be that desperate.

You are projecting.

Meh, at least I respect them for giving someone a wage. Seems unnecessary lol

LOL
Job offering literally everywhere.
Spend 3 minutes on any jobsite and it;s fucking loaded with empty positions.
If you're not working today, it's solely and absolutely because you're lazy. Period.

you are deflecting

Yeah they stopped looking because there's no jobs LMAO.

3% unemployment with a straight face. Your are fucking living in fantasy land my friend. Tell me how the rainbows taste up there.

and yet the problem tends to be that people who went to college can't find employment to compensate for their debt, vs people who just joined the work force out of high school.

it's not my fault your parents lied to you and said the world would be easy. other countries don't even give people k-12 and yet they still have functional economies, and they even send their children to come compete for American jobs. figure that one out.

have you ever tried just taking a job, no matter how low the pay, and then working to demonstrate your worth, commitment, and promotability? or do you whine to your employers as much as you do to your government about how "unfair the system is?"

Our services are shit because taxes are low. I grew up in the 80s, I saw that economy, you can't trick me into thinking this is healthy.

Do you know how many hundreds of people apply to one job? Most also have a tendency to fire before 90 days to avoid permanent full time worker rights.

There's nothing to deflect. You say there aren't jobs when the labor market is the tightest its been in years. Maybe the automation apocalypse will come someday, but its not here now.

Yeah I did that for years. Only the owner's son, who is never on the job, gets promoted. Then you get dumped.

look up your stats and figure out what they are actually measuring. don't just seek information to fit your narrative.

any measurement can serve any argument with enough mental gymnastics.

we pay more for the medicine, the actual supplies and yes more to healthcare, becase all the wacky insurance policies both doctors and patients need. then they get taxed for having their own practice, etc.

diabetes isn't restricted to the US, but our poors eat a lot of sodium/processed foods, because theyre cheaper and last longer.

socialism dosn't work, there are no successful socialist countries. Europeans used mixed models where their socialist policies survive off their capitalist economy. you don't provide your own defense - we do. and you have small, mostly homogeneous populations in a small area. our blacks are the ones with most the weight/heart/violence problem and once you get enough Africans imported, you'll see the difference too. your country has been set up for gov't rule, US was not. we're individualists here that don't rely on the gov't cock to suck, like you. it's always been self-determination here. it still is, but it's a wedge issue for dems today.

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i have a fine job. i have a master's degree.

k-12 education is not sufficient to work in the 21st century economy for most, and going into debt to support a system that will not support toy back is wrong

Just a heads up, corporate taxes go to the feds general fund. Not to use for the " budget" the budget ie; what we spend for all govt services roads infrastructure and teachers etc is strictly from individual income tax.

that's your opinion. some are. some aren't. some have given up. some turn to crime, others charity, either way "unemployment" figure isn't accurate when talking about people "not employed" regardless of their motivation.

You're talking nonsense. McDonalds functions in a competitive market, if their structure had 1000's of percentage points of margin, their competitors would crush them. Its a garbage argument why defend it?

furthermore, unemployment isn't promised. people get denied it all the time. i've applied twice, once after getting out of the military and another time for a wrongful termination. denied twice. i made it, thanks to charity and my own determination, but i had no kids. i had no plan, but i wanted to work. unemployment is not something to plan on. fyi.

yes, it will. and you are right, to
a degree.

let's keep everything the same, and wait to see how this all plays out. people can wait to bother with their lives and families once it's all said and done. in the meantime, fuck em.

It all depends. Those of us who live in the real world know that nepotism is King.

A braindead moron can make millions if Daddy's company makes it so. No matter how smart you are, you will likely never make more than George w bush.

The only smart person in this thread

our taxes have always been on the high end, so i don't know where you're from. this system isn't good, but we're trillions in debt, billions in deficit, and you want to tax the very fucking thing that generates revenue in this country, you will fuck it.

Mcd’s is doing it now. The kiosk is using the same point of sale software as the manned cash register. I’ll use a kiosk over the manned cash register every time.

user you need to look closer

i agree
no argument here. just saying that if you support the worker, it will hurt co tune this way

Honestly you'd get less spit in your food with less niggers behind the counter

I know lol

no, fuck those businesses. either those businesses support their workers, or they should die.

no job is better than wage slavery

quit trying to suck your own cock.

get a job and save to pay for your college education.

protip: by the time you can afford it, you will realize you are already ahead of the kid who is straight out of university with no work experience 4 years late to the party.

He's actually an idiot defending greed

especially because those companies often pay off politicians through PACs, thereby creating laws to NOT support their employees

that's some communist shit, user. it's the other way around here in the US. as it should be.

so your solution is to NOT pay down your debt and NOT work? great plan.

that plan will fuck you no matter who is president.

This is not possible unless you work about 10 years saving up.

My solution is to get out of a shit country before it gets even worse.

it's actually a good point. you idiots don't realize the guy who owns the shop - that is his job. if he can't afford to make ends meet, he can't pay his employees, then theyre all fucked. not all corps are megacorps you stupid fucking twat.

which requires family/mentorship. a lot of folks didn't get that.

Then the idiot should go out of business. No sympathy to those who don't plan a living wage for their employees.

and all the idiots working for him out of jobs. brilliant.

as is your right, and the way. this is all going.

no one should EXPECT you to use your dollar to bolster any movement but convenience. those in disagreement don't understand human psychology. the masters is setting up an institution that minimizes the damage of your convenient actions

You've obviously never seen the u-scans in the Carolinas. They're gonna to have to hire people to touch the little menu buttons, because half those mouth breathers won't be able to figure it out.

you are going INTO debt, AND telling people how to navigate the job market? i'm guessing no one here is going to listen to you. UNLESS you promise them FREE SHIT. and that is why we are still talking about socialism as though it is a serious topic.

get a second masters in something relevant. for god's sake: don't get a PhD unless your debt is all paid off and you want to be a teacher for the rest of your life (and are prepared to work for a low wage, it all comes back to living within your means).

hence, protip: don't go to college since 4 years work experience will put you in a higher earning bracket and won't leave you crippled by debt.

On the high end of what?

Not everyone has family or mentors.

Then someone better comes and takes his place, giving back superior jobs. No sympathy.

I'm sorry but if you plan to run a business with $8 employees, you aren't going to be putting out top quality stuff anyway. Good riddance

yeah, work 3 jobs and raise a family. use daycare, which costs, and schools, which are being defunded. never be at home so you can provide a home.

those children will do what without supervision? cure cancer?

they'll be a blight. it's directly causal to home life and parent presence.

No sympathy for you either. I got mine, too bad you didn't.

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Thanks for the advice after the fact. Too bad I was too poor to afford a computer until I was 20.

I'm just going to leave this shithole and start over.

What do people do while in school/college once all these types of jobs get automated? I agree they're not meant to be careers bit people have to be able to start somewhere and/or work to pay for school etc

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I know right?
Fuck people so much for trying to be paid a wage they can actually live off of.

i have certifications in software development, unrelated to my field. i program for fun. i do fine.

i'm fucking brilliant, though. i know maybe 1 or 2 people like me. clearly not the majority.

that's my story. no job yet. my work experience seems to be "out of date".

Objectively false.

McD's has kiosks in town. Use them 100% of the time (the extremely rare times for me to go there). Order is right every time. Faster. Quieter.

Little Ceasar's has their app and portal system in store, and it has made me order pizza from them 100% when I need cheap easy dinner. Order, wait for my text msg, walk and and walk out with food, no human driven suggestive selling quota bullshit at all.

Same. It's every man for himself. But even I would pay a living wage out of self respect, not necessarily respect for the employees. Because I would want people who care about bringing in customers. I stopped going to most places for that reason. Everything I get is online now

Low paid employees actually work against your business not for it

people don't do well when they try to flee. your debts will find you.

foreign countries aren't all hot and bothered to pull you in on a work visa, its easier to just get a job where you are from.

if you really want to escape debt, you have to denounce citizenship and repatriate. but other countries don't want shit tier workers to burden their economies that ALREADY ARENT doing as well as America.

so put your shit in perspective, get your ass in gear, and just pay down your fucking debt. its not that hard. they gave you the money, give it back.

I'm 42. I was in a lower middle class family in a rural area. The 80s were pretty fucking swell for me. 60 Minutes did a spot on how "tough" it was for all the poor ppl under big ol' nasty Reagan.
The state-run media in the USSR translated it to Russian and showed it to the proletariat to show how "evil" the US was.
The Soviet subjects were like, "Damn, even the poor people in America are well-fed!"

>the foundation for rich people who don't want to pay taxes commissioned a study that says that our taxes are too high and should be reduced

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Realistically speaking you can't really tax the rich very much. They're the only ones who can afford to just leave. Best to simply kill them off and use their resources in a more useful way for the human species.

>Not everyone has family or mentors.
that's literally what i just said.
>Then someone better comes and takes his place, giving back superior jobs. No sympathy.
Yea, the megacorp, small business is being fucked, that's a major point you're ignoring. it drives down competition and you're still not guaranteed that job. AND that gap is not guaranteed to be filled, because now you have less spending in that area bc uneployed people. big biz is all about that bottom line. small biz wants to stay in their area.

>I'm sorry but if you plan to run a business with $8 employees, you aren't going to be putting out top quality stuff anyway. Good riddance
it worked when they went in to biz. it's only now not bc you're a greedy prick that wants more money for flipping a burger, because you can't be fucked to improve yourself.

I love those anecdotes. I have one too. In the 70s the League of Women Voters or some other such entity was invited to Russia to film a documentary on how mothers were treated in the Soviet Union. Their trip was cut short when they reported back things like there's a preschool on every corner so the kids don't have to cross the street.

No thanks. I was scammed. Anyone who rewards that shit is part of the problem.

Japan is looking for young low skilled workers in rural areas. Canada is also very promising. The debt basically disappears from your life if you never plan to come back. I sure don't.

>Most also have a tendency to fire before 90 days
You are completely full of shit.
A pulse is all that's needed to get a job right now. But (obviously) your results may vary.

I've never seen a struggling student or young worker go without their iPhone or make their own coffee in the morning or abstain from costly activities such as the bar or restraunts. Turns out people will do what they like to do no matter what. Anyone reeling from student debt and working 60 hours a week either got a worthless degree or fucked off for 4 years and got absolutely shit grades with no interim experience to supplement their education.

Also, the cost of education is very manageable in high cost of living areas bc the gov will subsidize the fuck out of your schooling. If you don't talk to your financial aid advisor or fill out the paper work or, even worse, if you go directly to a private 4 year college from day 1, then you aren't being very proactive in your debt mitigation. Fuck you if you don't plan your life and then you bitch about it later.

>People being paid $8
>Greedy

This is how dumbed down and double-thinked the dumbed down masses are at this point.

you can't work 3 jobs unless theyre giving you shitty hours. want more jobs, don't tax profit and payroll. you want even less jobs, tax profit and payroll. women should raise their children. back then they could. you keep talking about income, but wont talk about why shit is so expensive to begin with. you want discuss inflation. you wont discuss gov't spending, printing money to pay for the debt for your fucking social programs.

the dildo claimed he paid low taxes so he's not falling for this "if we create more social programs, we'll go even further in the debt" business.

i agree. i was just

Again, fantasy land. Yor are living in pretend world

The only realistic solution is leave the country, as hundreds of thousands of other students have done. I know a guy who got a master's in biology and booked it to Australia. Debt free with a high paying job.

no one owes you the benefits of being born into a rich family.

are you so retarded that you can't see how that could not work as an economy?

we live in a country where people feel so entitled to "higher education" that the providers have adapted the service to supply the market. now, your college degree might as well be a high school diploma. the only difference is that HS was free and college was so "affordable" that you can't possibly afford it.

wherever you are at, just stop complaining and start working. it won't get any better by making shit "more free." you think your degree is worthless now? wait until all the people who cant even get your order right at mcd's now have the same "level of education" as you.

i don't agree with your communist logic at the end tho. that's on me for not finishing reading lol

The rich don't deserve it either. Kill them

... get back on Twitter, chief.

why the fuck should you be paid a job on par with an a degree when all you do is scrap friers?

If you can't afford a family or a decent quality of life for them you shouldn't have one, period. Live. Within. Your. Means.

Why should a CEO who does nothing be paid millions?

Like I said I'm leaving the country so it's not my problem honestly. I'll be debt free soon enough

What a piece of shit

>kill the rich
>remaining wealth goes to rich relatives, shareholders, or the state
>in the event it goes to the state it is re-enters the wealthy's pockets thru waste spending
>queue Elton John

i've worked shitty jobs, and they all require completely open schedule as a prerequisite for hiring

Do you think that maybe its because now they can afford to hire a few quality employees to do the job that whole teams of cheaper employees couldn't do?

Ben Garrison is a whiny faggot with all the political insight of a wet sock.

These policies are considered moderate in the rest of the world, stop pouting just because your conservative-rigged government is finally collapsing.

that's not what i said, you ass. no one ever said it was owed and mentorship/family is a middle class thing, that's how they rose to it in the first place, you cocksucking faggot.

not having a family/mentorship? yea, we get what we got. i can't make familes care about the kids they shit out. i can only care about mine, my parents sure as fuck didnt. i was basically raised on and by the state. it fucking miserable. you only "surivive". you don't learn how to do shit except navigate the system.

and i/m not the one asking for free/affordable shit. i want costs to go down via competition and less taxes.

Japan is even more likely to replace low skilled workers with automation. and just like America, OF COURSE they will take a low pay worker to conveniently fill in until then.

difference is, Japan won't make you a citizen, you are already an American citizen. only way you get into Japan is if you speak their language and are willing to get fucked by the fact they will cast out their working class faster than America did in the coming years.

OR, if you marry a Japanese woman, you will be fine. because they want babies to fill in the gap until machines take over dumb jobs. but you are just going to have the same problem in a different country, but now you don't speak the language.

so basically. you are saying you want to become a Mexican immigrant to the American work crisis you think you are already experiencing.

good fucking luck with that

GTFO Now

he started the biz, took all the risk, maintains it, grows it, and often owns the biz to begin with. he does more for the company than you. you get paid because of him and this is goddamn America, not Soviet Russia, dickhead.

only rich people should procreate

Heyy! nice Elon Musky..!

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Make everyone salaried and work shorter shifts.

same here, that's why i get annoyed when people trot that shit out. it's often working at the same location, or doing shit like waitress'ing where chicks make nice tax free money.

the difference is the rich will employ you and your children.

you could employ someone too if you'd stop voting for socialist bullshit.

imagine you had a great idea of how to feed burgers to niggers for cheap and you just needed to hire some people to make it happen. but, oh fuck, you can't pay them $8 like you thought, you gotta pay them $15. no business for you, you gotta keep working at mcds, mcds doesnt have any competition, your "business is rich because it is evil" strawman seems real, you go vote socialist, now min is $20, rinse repeat. fuck you.

you got lower taxes and increased competition in 2016 and 2018. why the hell would you throw away progress to vote to legitimize the socialist plague that is starting to take root in our government?

>women should raise their children. back then they could

Back then you could afford a house, a car, and an occasional vacation off one medium-tier job. Now you're lucky to be able to do so with two.

It would help to not flood the market with even more low wage earners from the South.

This

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>people should be able to have luxuries if they want, even if they work a useless job that is supposed to be for kids ir students working their way up to an actual career

Mad they took your porn away eh?

Or maybe you can take responsibility for your life instead of complaining how impossible it is, Mr. Fantasy.

Also you've been in this thread a while, my man. Day off or just no job? :^)

Who gives a shit about the city. Upstate has been carrying its ass for many years. Cuomo is bringing weed to NY. That’s it, that’s all I give a fuck about politics, jobs and whatnot. No one gives a shit about restaurant growth in the city. It’s a shit hole anyways. Upstate is where it’s at. Nothing but growth here despite funding the city. Go troll another state dick bag.

That's because the market adjusted to double income households. There's no magic inflation here.

these are the decisions real people ( without a trust) face

1) go into debt for a full-time job that you may never pay off
2) work up in a part-time position to a full-time position (HIGHLY conditional)
3) be brilliant (again i have a master's degree, and code for fun)
is there a fourth option? how many of those options provide for a stable family?

you can go to a conservative country, where a single income / low income household is still viable. but your overall standard of living will go way down, and you probably don't speak the language.

so, as it turns out, you are actually lucky as fuck. and it should be the guy from that country bitching at you about how you are a rich son of a bitch.

people in America fail to realize they are the 1% of the world.

just go back to work and focus all this energy on being useful to your employer. all you have to do is outperform the other Yea Forumstards around you and poof, you are suddenly upwardly mobile.

you'll forget about that socialism bullshit real quick once you realize how little effort is required to accel here compared to the rest of the world.

Let them destroy themselves, who cares?
the $15 is to destroy the middle class, should work alright with all the poors going for it.

Another stupid nigger talking out of his mouth who only cares about his weed.

>dick bag
stump jumper

feed them to wild niggers in uganda.

UBI is inevitable. Regardless how anyone feel about it. The age of robotics is upon us. They will pay our taxes and our UBI.

Kek, the rest of the world is falling apart. That's why no matter what the fed tries, the dollar keeps gaining value at an 'alarming' rate.

That's my point. I'm saying it's stupid to argue that women should be raising their kids when, unless you're at least decently well off, there's no way you can afford that.

>1% of the
and most of the economy

I don't get it. could someone please explain?

I’m white and will make much cash with the weed, and I have a job, car, wife, house and dog. Nice try though.

I like that

this. if you can't figure out how to squeeze that much productivity from your people, you don't value your people or your business.

Man I love self checkout saves me a lot of money

England is declining because they embraced nationalist isolationism and Russia is declining because everyone is spanking them with sanctions.

The rest of the world isn't changing too drastically, and the countries that have embraced these policies continue to outperform America in education, quality of life, and healthcare.

that donkey has a nice ass. i wish i could be bernie sanders in that picture and squeeze them ass cheeks.

I'm sorry, we'll need to revoke your posting privileges. You're too stupid to be here.

Nothing to get. Cost of living increases faster than pay. That’s all. Minimum is going up in NY anyways. Someone is just trolling or butthurt or both.

the democratic party has gone far left.

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advice: don't work for an idiot who's business isn't growing / may go under at any moment.
take a low paying job at a good company who is stable.
work your way up by merit.
have a family, or go to school when you have the money to do so.

if the plan becomes compromised at any point: live within your means. live with your parents if you have to.

if you can't out-compete your American peers who spend 50% of their income on rent, 35% on food, and buy a new iPhone every year, in addition to a bunch of other useless expendable shit, you sir are retarded and do not deserve a livable wage in the first place.

But it works in reverse too. The market would reverse trend if it needed to accommodate a single income household. Most people wouldn't even notice a difference because the cost of childcare is insanely high.

Maybe nyc but I live here and when i was making under 15 an hr i had an apt truck and plenty of food to go around. Means cutting non necessities back to pay for the important things. Internet, cable, and top of the line cellphone isn't necessity. Its It's ways to get all the money out your pockets.

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Education for a reason. Gotta keep the pop dumb to control and fuck them every way. The rest is capitalism eating itself

Russia troll bot

Murkastan in pictoral format.

>childcare is insanely high.
shoot them

That's what happens when you actually invest in your employees instead of running an endless revolving door of unqualified part-timers that you can deny benefits to.

There are less jobs because the system is more efficient. Cry about it if you want, but it's not changing.

Except you can’t walk in and get $15/hr. Working the grill means hours of training and months of waiting for managers to give you level ups. They start at $11.50 and you get a small raise with each level up.

democrats are niggerlovers. i do not vote for niggerlovers

The official Republican Party position is to OPPOSE the teaching of critical thinking skills
>cuz MUH BIBLE

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>if your job goes away and you can't get hired anywhere just immigrate.
You are the seed that plants 3rd world countries.

If you think childcare is too high, then make a lower one. Educate yourself.

Queue up for bread and toilet paper, comrades

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I bet you would suck Herman Cain's cock if he was leading in the polls

again, i do fine. not everyone has my ability

That's not even a little true. Firstly, Europe is NOT 'the rest of the world' you racist prig, and it is collapsing under the weight of Progressivism, thus Brexit. Secondly, South America is falling into such chaos, that people are heading to U.S. of America in droves. Thirdly, Africa is being overrun by Islam at an alarming rate (like Europe) and is destroying itself like a bunch of Necromongers. China and Australia are having significant growth problems and the serious social policy anxiety is taking root. Watch and read news from more than just MSNBC or front page NYT and you would know all of this.

child care is expensive because it is valuable.

just like how people have been lulled into thinking that a college education is going to be more valuable than the debt they rack up, people are tricked into thinking that a second income in the household is more valuable than child care.

just tell your fucking wife to stay home and raise the damn kids. move into a smaller apartment, quit eating at restaurants. she is probably worth more than your salary in terms of being a homemaker.

if she refuses: welcome to feminism. prepare for her to divorce your ass and take 50% of your shit as soon as she thinks your career is ripe.

Turn them into homelss underclass C.H.U.Ds who live in the sewers so that republisharts and conservatards can feel better about themselves and tell themselves that they got to their position in life by hard work and talent, rather than a quirk of fate by being born privileged in the first world.

>The official Democrat Party position is to OPPOSE the teaching of critical thinking skills
fixed

No one wants to discuss the elephant in the room. Too many people and not enough to go around. The rally cry of the left is always the poor and minorities. Those groups will always exist. In order for others to some to have more others will have less. If you take a look outside the US we live the life we do at the expense of others. Why do you think people are flocking to mostly white countries, they have all the resources. The left just needs to acknowledge that in order for everyone to be part of the dream we will all have to live at the poverty level to account for redistribution of wealth.

Actually, it is the
customer
who does the work here.

Good luck, getting them to clean the restrooms, etc.

I always cringe, when this example is shown,
not hard to see who does the work!

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I wasn't dumb enough to pay for it. Huge proponent of single income households for this reason alone.

No way you live Upstate. Upstate NY lags the rest of the country in job growth and economic growth. NYC supports the rest of the state, take away those tax dollars and upstate turns into Appalachia.

>Turn them into homelss underclass C.H.U.Ds who live in the sewers so that dumbosharts and libtards can feel better about themselves and tell themselves that they got to their position in life by hard work and talent, rather than a quirk of fate by being born privileged in the first world.
fixed again

Nah cunt. How about the shareholders and %1 majority shareholders only make 6 billion a year instead of 6.3257 billion?

I agree with all of this.

don't need advice. i do fine

We've become too smart for our own good, for thousands of years, drought, famine, disease, and wars have culled the population, we have all but eradicated that so in a short amount of time we are now at 7 billion people and exponentially growing, something is gonna give and hopefully im checked out by then

still need someone to fix the machines, nigger.

Who fucking CARES?! These are the shittiest conceivable jobs, if they can be done more efficiently by a robot, WHY WOULD YOU PROTECT THEM???

The entire state of Oregon doesn't know how to pump it's own gas because the government was too afraid to let gas attendant jobs die. Just like a sign-spinner, these people provide nothing to society when they could be getting a better job or education.

FUCK, even universal basic income is better than protecting meaningless jobs. That's the kind of shit China does to keep its population busy.

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ok, again, people who aren't "gifted" like your ass claims to be shouldnt take the massive risk of racking up debt for 4 years expecting it to pay itself off without a miracle (especially when everyone else is doing the same).

the market wants them to just go to fucking work and try to spend 4 years advancing their career organically. so what the fuck is giving out a bunch of meaningless degrees going to do other than weaken our economy and delay the next generation of workers by 4 years while they sit in a lecture hall for no reason?

I'm a conservative and although I don't agree with the liberals on much, rich companies like Wall-Mart can definitely afford to boost their wages, maybe not to $15 right away but a bit each year over time.
However, a large, flat minimum wage increase across the board does hurt small businesses

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Daily reminder that the Trumps support Mininium wage.

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someone who is smart enough to do the the job, unlike the dumb fucks behind the counter

Didn't say Europe is the rest of the world.

Illiterate much?

But were you smart enough to make your own high childcare? My neighbors were. They paid for their house.

Let the back pedalling commence! Must support whatever the God Emperess says!!

$2.50 an hour

That's just a lie

Is making blatant lies the only way you can protect your ideology now? That's fucking pathetic.

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Rich white people want clean, safe streets and services that work, not this simmering cauldron of diseased niggers and rednecks constantly at each other's throats. The only people who like it this way are money men who care about nothing else, super-mega rich people who make money off this and just build walls and shit to make sure that they are the only ones globalism applies to. Get the fuck out of my country.

Tax breaks (corporate welfare, eg Wisconsin Foxconn) hurts small business by making the relative costs lower for them.

Minimum Wages level it.

Think about it.

We can always use more sex workers.
BTW who agrees that the sex trade should be legalized?

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Marxism.

Repetitive messaging works because repetitive messaging works because repetitive messaging works because repetitive messaging works

Look at your racist ass. Dehumanizing others isn't the way to be happy.

lolno

Republicans are the religious party so they've always had the lower average IQ.

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This but unironical.
LOL you just made milk shoot out my nose user, gross.

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That's the Little Ceaser's up on Union in Tacoma.
There's no fucking way they would have paid a real person to do that anyway

on large scale, not in a private conversation

are you stupid?

Boosted wages means higher cost of goods in return. That's generally how it works.

This. We must make everyone equally poor.

we need to close the borders of white countries. if niggers in the third world want to breed like cockroaches and starve themselves, it is not our problem. they need to fix THEIR countries, not come to ours, and continue to buttfuck eachother and have 20 kids here.

Go ahead and use that touchscreen that everyones putting their filthy dickbeaters on. I'll stand in line.

they do tax breaks to bring in savvy investors, won't always work out.

minimum wage will always deter savvy investors, but what it also does is make it harder for a small business to start.

so when you raise minimum wage, you are just ensuring that local economies will only be accessible to larger corporations, and really that is quite un-American and probably also the last thing you want even though you vote for democrats because you think it is a populist movement.

just wash your hands after touching the herpes infested screen. you will be fine.

Well if marxs predictions on capitalism are correct we will reach perfect capitslism where the need for middle men between consumer and producer are not needed anymore. And automation will eventually take over 90%of the work force.
So yea Marxism is the future.

?

once they got the register technology intuitive enough for their nignog employees to figure it out, they just cut the communication barrier and let the customer produce the order. brilliant

Did he lie?

fucking redpill

Trump is big muscles and big peepee! Left wing is stinky dumb and brown skin!

- Ben Garrison cartoon

Yeah with bad teeth

>t. kentuckistanian
No thanks, east detroit was bad enough.

Yep
youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

>well if marx's predictions are correct
stopped reading

This is the most unironically anti-american post I've ever read on this website's board.

He's probably lurking this thread to steal your ideas.

new?

You realize ISIS and Russian intelligence posted here, right?

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