Reminder: Socialism has never been successful in the entirety if human history

ANOTHER ONE!

What the FUCK is going on with all the Conservaturds here? One little girl scares the living SHIT outta them?

BWHAHAHAHAHA! RUN AWAY, RIGHTIES!

and a latino woman, at that.

Absolute hysteria.

Nah, they shifted into maximum damage control in response to Trump's abysmal failure in NK and because of the lulzy as fuck Cohen hearings that are literally raping their orange messiah with no lube.

Nice b8 m8

Actual hysterics

triggered

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I can smell the fedora through to computer.

Real MAGA!

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latina
Wimmins is latinas.

Agreed. Socialist countries are weak and inconsequential compared to the US.
Pay them no mind.

Sharing is caring.

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>not actual socialism
Then why call it any kind of socialism?

>responsible for over 75% of the National Debt
Lies. Obama racked up more debt that every past President combined.

>Trickle Down has been thoroughly debunked and defeated.
Outrageous lies, it's being proven right as we speak, Trump's tax cuts for the rich have benefited the poor. Why? Because the rich employ the poor, retard.

literally the opposite is true

youtu.be/EB-GXEhVlto

Socialism works all across the world in the modern day and has for many years. What you're thinking of is communism.

Too bad 45 is mobilizing the Space Force and hooking up with pornstars with the money that could've funded the middle school you're in so that you may have been taught this bit of information.

Everything works in moderation, AOC and Sanders aim to destroy america just to spite Trump and those that support him.

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>This is what brainless Trumptards actually believe.

Exactly!
An educated society would be ungovernable!

AOC and Sanders are proposing very moderate and mainstream policies. What we have right now is extremism.

Information should be restricted to those who can AFFORD it!

Disprove it. Tell me how a system that allows previsions for those that are "unwilling to work" is good for the world.

nb4 that was not in the final bill

It was in the draft, a sneak peak at whats to come

Then why can't they even get the likes of Dianne Feinstein to back them?

VENEZUELA 2000
Socialism is going to make everything better for everyone.

VENEZUELA 2019
What the FUCK were we thinking!

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>not even close to accurate. the conservatives created the surpluses the dems spent. you know nothing
hahahahahahahaha! good one.

but hurrrr Socialism gud Trump bad

what the fuck? i mean, yeah you're in your 20s and ignorant, but seriously, where the fuck do you hear these things?

Where i live we elected a social democrate party. First thing they did was institute a carbon tax, one that increases every year. Our fuel immediately jumped 40¢ a litre. My utility bills went up $100. This also caused the price of everything to go up, food is crazy expensive now. They said it was to save the world, but 60% of it they just hand out to poor people, hasnt lowered our emissions but that wasnt really the objective. They also raised the corporate taxes which cause alot of our business to flee to the USA. So alot of our people are out of work. Then to top it all off they raised the min wage to 15 which devalued our money and caused everything to go up in price again, ugh. Just got my utility bill, now 550 a month after another carbon tax increase.

Its awful i had to take a second job just to cover the extra 700 a month extra i now need to pay for their extra taxes.

Anyone who supports this kind of government is retarded

because she's a conservative, and always has been. liberals have wanted feinstein gone since she first appeared.

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Women don't have penises moron.

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>Obama racked up more debt that every past President combined.

HaHaHaHaHaHaHa---oh wait, you were serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Turn off the Fox, son. It's making you retarded.

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Reminder that capitalism has never been successful in the entirety of human history

Sharing is stealing.

If Socialism is so fuckin' good, why is it based on so many fuckin' lies?

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The US military is quite successful, actually.

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The National debt doubled under his 8 years..

see

Also wrong.

Capitalism breeds success for the financially elite, while establishing a monetary caste system built to keep those at the bottom down and limit ascension.

Capitalism works, but not for the well being of the general population.

True socialism has never even existed because it can't coexist with reality.

Fuck you faggot try harder France is pretty real

Just incase you are actually that stupid, I'll bite.

1. Provision. Sorry, I had to.
2. "unwilling to work" is a myth. Social programs are intended to do two things: they stabilize the economy so it can grow fast without serious issues developing as a result. They are also there because TIME is the most expensive resource in society, not money. People are the cogs of this gigantic machine and when a cog fails due to health or artificial monetary circumstances, it is a Utilitarian imperative to help them. The concept here being that it costs us less in total resources to replace a cog than it does to repair it. And from an ethical standpoint, it is fucking inexcusable to consider it in the first place.

People "dropped" by society don't just happily die off, faggot. They will do anything to survive, which is their right. If we do nothing for them then we can't expect them to respect our orders. This creates competitive side economics which damages the socioeconomic state and it also greatly increases crime rates.

We will NEVER be a society that has no social programs for those in need. Do some people take advantage of the system? Yes, but they are inconsequential.

>a sneak PEEK at what's to come
Do you honestly expect anyone to believe your retarded ass read a Congressional bill?

Property is Theft.

You're a fucking moron.

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It's a feminine penis.

Also, stop littering the site with that retarded pic already. You have forced the fuck out of it day after day.

Hey look, it's yet another shit-tier right meme that was stolen from a left meme.

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successful at what exactly?

And I suppose Bush's 1.3 Trillion dollar deficit and two unpaid for wars had nothing to do with it?

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Every political system fails, it's just the matter of how long before it failed USSR lasted about 80 years, Cuba lasted 15 years, ect. but capitalist countries last for much longer, America 1776 to now, rome for 500 years ect. so capitalism isn't the best system but it's the best one we have so far

"My socialism is the good socialism." didn't the Stalin said the same thing.

My teacher said Stalin was communist

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bro we see anti trump threads since day fucking one all the time
it wasn't like that with obama
>t. oldfag

Capitalism isn't successful unless having 3 people owning as much wealth as the bottom 90% is success.

Socialism = communism, ain't ya heard?

you can't /thread your own post, you dumb nigger

So what, people must suffer indefinitely in a system of excess and poverty because capitalists are really good at propaganda and suppressing dissent? That's how you measure success?

rolling. the wealthy have proven to hoard their wealth, no evidence of increasing hiring rates. maybe more jobs, but who the fuck would spend more money once they have more money e.g. more employees

Are you in the 5th grade or something?

Stalin's problem was not killing enough capitalists

>Capitalism has never worked

Are you fucking retarded

Reminder: AOC is a queen and I love her!
youtube.com/watch?v=x0cv_Ior5FY

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You can’t even spell “of” so your point is invalid

TAXMONEY FOR HEALTHCARE IS SOCIALISM
TAXMONEY FOR A WALL IS AMERICAN

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Socialist democracy = communist democracy?

Ok make things up...

She has been claiming Democrat for like 30 years. The fact of the matter is US politics is a horror show, It's started with Obama driving s wedge between the blacks and cops and pushing a them vs us mentality, which evolved to white v black and whites then decied they would rather kiss black ass than be called racist for no reason so when you have Trump come in who is a rich white speaking his mind and has some questionable fans he looks like public enemy number #1 if you drink the Obama kool-aid. The new Dems don't care about this country long term, every bill, every deal, every policy is an underline strike at Trump or any wealthy white man tbh, Trump can't fix it. This country won't be happy until we have a half mex half black gender-fluid leader and even then they will be upset the White house is still white

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"Until the civilization falls" seems to be the measuring stick of "success"

>people think this is a real argument

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We're already upset the palace is white

I figured the /s wasn't necessary, my bad

Only a cuckservative would have a fake book on economics.

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I measure success by how long a political system works, communism and socialism are usually done away with quickly because no one living under it likes it, while capitalism stays in power for centuries usually

President Reagan increased the debt by 186 percent.
Bush increased the debt by 101 percent
Obama increased the debt by 74 percent
thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

Im not saying Obama did an awesome job, he was just fixing the fuck ups and keeping the status quo. (Making the rich.. richer)

sooooo... what are you actually suggesting? keeping people dumb and crippled by debt?

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Oh yeah, France is doing great. You haven't noticed the Yellow Vest protests that have been going on for months? What do you think those protests are about?

Ok, kid. No arguing with an ideologue.

>suggesting

That is the literal state of america, you donut

People willing to do whatever it takes to survive are
A) going to succeed and achieve greatness
or
B) become criminals and should be jailed

You are talking to someone that spent a year living in a car when somethings out of my control ruined my life, many opportunity to steal, lie, or cheat came my way, drugs were available but instead i sucked it up and worked two shitty jobs and bought a bigger car to live in and eventually got an apartment. I been close to the bottom and ignored but made my way back. capitalism inspires us to work hard and aim for something more. Taking away the "you don't work you dont eat" mentality is the key to becoming a welfare state.

Socialist have nothing, want nothing, or fear they will always have nothing so they are fine leveling the economic playing field because its easy gains. I don't have much but I work for it and it's mine no one who doesn't put in the effort deserves my sympathy.

Isn't that worse? Oh my system of oppression is super effective at reforming itself to keep the masses from rebelling. So successful.

Obama caused half of it.

Okay, we get the point. Time for a new topic.

GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG MORE SOY MILK! BRING ME THE BOTTLE AND LEAVE IT!

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Where do you live?

ITT: Yanks don't know the difference between socialists and social democrats.

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yeah I know, but I just can't believe someone would vouch to keep it that way
>An educated society would be ungovernable!
wtf

This, if you don't work you shouldn't get money for food

ever heard of a country called Denmark faggot?

Except for in every advanced western country in the world (including America) where we use a capitalist system with social policies which offer a huge return in their investment...

Dude stop being a gullible little bitch. Social policies and security are excellent for the economy.

Sounds like France

ITT: Zoomer highschoolers think european capitalist countries with a couple demsoc parties is socialism

*This post was sponsored by Fox News. Fox News: Our viewers got two scoops of extra chromosomes!*

Socialist ideals have been relatively successful under certain conditions before as in the Paris Commune, the Free Territory during the Ukrainian revolution, Rojava today, etc.

Do you not see the point, people rebel because they live under opposition, not many capitalist societies are destroyed because of rebellion, they are destroyed because of invasion

>>Trickle Down has been thoroughly debunked and defeated.
>Outrageous lies

Trickle down doesn't work because you cant rely on the generosity of the few when they have no reason to be generous. Most super wealthy are owners of companies or stock market people. The rich ceos keep salaries low, pump the stock up with buybacks and enrich themselves. In a more fair world. this would be called theft. These people dont deserve all that they have, they have become a billionaire for a reason because they are trying to keep as much of it for themselves at the expense of the many. Sure they create jobs, but that goes back to paying as little as possible and creating as few jobs as possible so they can keep the most money. Your idea of trickle down is for the general public to hope that some greedy shitbag decides he isnt going to be greedy.. You are living in your own reality.

Excellent for the economy? Exactly how? The government is the king of waste. Tell me one time the government spent money more wisely than someone in the private sector.

go to bed, Karloff

Crime is literally work. It puts food on the table. It also pays better than most work most criminals can get. Especially if they ever got caught before, because we treat anyone who has anything serious on their record like eternal garbage.

How did you even get a job with no home address. I thought most places frowned on hiring the homeless because of all the stigma attached to them

How does bill gates being rich make anyone poor?

classic trumptard
no substance or arguments, just the basic dumb insults

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Walmart hires just about anyone

/thread

4: Achieve greatest economic growth in recorded history and defeat the Nazis regardless.

pic is true tho

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Yup, with relatively minor maintenance it will remain functional for generations, centuries even.
Sooner or later some shark discovers that with some minor tweaks finagled out of the government they can make larger short-term profits playing the finance game instead of actually making or doing things, at that point it's only a couple of generations until 'bad luck' hits and us peasants get to rebuild everything again...

I believe that that man was being sarcastic.

But he's right, more or less. Smart people in shit positions are the ones that cause trouble, because big macs and the bachelor aren't enough to distract them for their entire lives.

So how do they hoard wealth that makes people poor. Unless they are really stupid, that money they earn is invested. Invested money pumps back into industry to create growth (jobs). They don't duck out billions and lock it up in a Scrooge McDuck vault.

I would literally rather be a career criminal than a career walmart employee

except for Cuba, and Russia and China, and Vietnam, Capitalists are full of shit Social Democracy is not Communism,
Capitalism is communism. Ask anyone working in retail or fast food, ask anyone working for minimum wage. Rich guys don't pay their taxes, and want you to think like them ask fox news.

Why did Nixon go to China, why do rich guys import from the biggest Communit Country in the world.

Hypocrites love China the biggest commie country and they love it. so Fuck you Rich guy Pay your taxes.

YFW socialists in Norway and Sweden have a higher standard of living than Merka.

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>being personally offended by soyboy memes
numale detected, time to check your privilege

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THIS!!!!

>slave society is dead in developed society
>feudalism is dead in developed society
>capitalism is ???

Wow. Hit the nail on the head. And I am not even a republican .

You asked who would hire homeless, I answered

no one is offended by anything you say or do. everyone, in the world, is laughing at you and shaking their heads.

The wealthy do not hoard wealth. They aren't sitting with piles of cash at home. All that money is invested, which lets other people create jobs and innovate. Them having billions doesn't affect you in any way. In fact, large amounts of wealth create large amounts of wealth. The saying "it take money to make money" is true.

Because I didn't tell people I was homeless, I never asked for sympathy, I had a drivers license, thats all you need to say you have a home. I would wake up early and wash with water jugs and shave behind a movie theater in the morning no one knew until a coworker say all my shit in my car once

I addressed crime in that post if your work is outside the current scope of legal you face jail time.

You are evidently too dumb to understand that how long something stands isn't a testament to its success. Stability is not good if what's being stable is destructive and alienating.

It's not about spending, it's about profiting

Governments are held accountable as much as possible, while companies can increase prices and profits with virtually no oversight

I really don't understand why ameritards are okay with the federal government taking care of infrastructure, army, vehicles, national parks, etc. but as soon as we mention healthcare its unthinkable that they could be involved.

Taxpayers (ppl and companies) contribute to a pool of money that profits everyone, why not for healthcare too? Especially considering insurance companies are the worst blood suckers there is.....

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This guy is totally gay!!! GAYYYY!!!

>The wealthy do not hoard wealth.
The opposite of that.

>All that money is invested
No, none of them invest any money in any thing, except for elon musk

>other people create jobs and innovate
cult beliefs not backed by scientific research

>Them having billions doesn't affect you in any way
The opposite of this is reality. They bribe politicians to enact regressive policies that hurt everyone in the country and many times more outside it.

>In fact, large amounts of wealth create large amounts of wealth.
[citation needed]
(hint: you won't find one)

Give me one example of a communist country that isn't fucked beyond belief

Jesus F. Christ. How dumb you have to be to even compare Venezuela's situation with what AOC is proposing?
Turn Faux News and read a fucking book.

Thats like asking, How does the fat guy that takes shrimp at the buffet stop the rest of the people at the buffet from eating shrimp. I only took 3 shrimp, I was planning on coming back for more, but there was none left because some greedy dick bag decided to fill multiple plates with shrimp.

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Its not offense, its the overwhelming cringe of low test magat incels talking about soybois. Kinda like how the "BBC taking over whiteboi" threads are all posted by weakass white dudes.

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lol you're confusing
>me being offended
>me pointing out that you have nothing decent to contribute to a discussion

nice buzzwords btw, you must be popular

Why do people just post pictures of her dumb expression? As if her silly face makes her stupid.

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You are evidently too dumb to realize that putting a system in that fails in 20 years is a stupid idea

This is the length to which Trumptards have to go: create a fake socialist country.

I have not once advocated for the practice of communism. Human nature forbids the ideal execution communism requires to be a viable societal structure.

Do you believe China is communist?

AOC is that you? If not you are as dumb as her.

Quality and availability of healthcare is the main issue. There is a reason why a huge percentage of medical procedures and drugs originate in the US and its not government control. I do dislike insurance companies but they have a purpose. The real problem is frivolous malpractice lawsuits and all the insurance a doctor must carry. I know a few doctors. Business related insurance costs can amount to about 40% of budget. Lawyers.

That's what our elites have been laboring like Stakhanovites to achieve for the last couple of generations...

accurate
trumptards are just sad and pathetic...

>Thinks the US is free market capitalism
Were you even alive during the Bush economic meltdown?

you hate science so much you deny the scientific method even exists

V-v-venezuela is doing fine

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>Why do people just post pictures of her dumb expression? As if her silly face makes her stupid.

No, her being stupid makes her stupid.
The stupid face just serves as a reminder.

hahahahahahaahahaha

come on... at least have read for like 5 minutes on the topic before opening your stinkhole about it

This will be investigated, This is a member of congress. Prepare.

And I replied that if that is the only recourse, I don't see why you can blame some people for becoming professional criminals

donald trump admires the dictator of venezuela and wants to be him

Except the rich don't eat money dipshit. They reinvest it. Do your retarded example would be the fat guy takes all the shrimp and puts it in a different plate. Ho to bed Ivan, I realize capitalism is new to you.

I'm simply pointing out that insofar as that comic goes, it likened capitalism to 2 long-dead societal structures that are heavily criticized in the modern day for their shortcomings and faults.

she's considered by virtually every person to be the smartest person in congress

Whatever, kid. You have no clue. The wealthy don't sit with billions in the bank. Most of the wealth associated with the rich is stock in their own company.
I agree with outlawing campaign contributions from corporations. Big money does hurt us.
Besides that, you are a fucking ideologue, which equals moron.

Why do you think investments matter to anyone not on the capitalist class? Stocks are literally their own form of currency. The company sells its stock once. That's the end of it. That money is used by the company and circulates through the economy.

Any subsequent stock trading (the vast majority of it) doesn't magically pump money into the economy.

yeah thanks for nothing

really? that would make sense though, though I would hope there's a way to reform the system so these practices go away.. it just sounds insane and overly costly o_O

Who.

No really, who reinvested money from their own account. Name one single person.

this

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They post her stupid quotes that show she is stupid.

>liberal zoomer talking about testosterone
this shit literally writes i t s e l f

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I'm much older than you. Otherwise, I didn't read your post. You're too young to have any context.

considering the state of your education system, no doubt
that cunt DeVos is certainly not helping, these day..

go to bed Boris

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reminder: AOC thread every 15 min.
and OP is a faggot

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>They reinvest it.
Is that what they taught you in social studies kid? PROTIP: Most of money made by the megarich is hidden offshore to avoid taxes.

What the fuck are you talking about.

Reminder about shit posted on this site:

>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>jet fuel can't melt the economy

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lol

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>They reinvest it.

No they pay their workers the smallest amount they can get away with, they higher the fewest workers they can. They own everything you create so you dont share in the profits. Billionaires became billionaires because of their business practice of keeping as much of it for themselves as possible.

>Liberals actually believe intellectual garbage like this
underaged on Yea Forums

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that's ok, neither does trump

But you literally have to supply a home address on every single job application you submit. That's where they send the shit that tells you to come into work. But then, I don't know if a P.O. box is an acceptable address, so maybe that's not particularly insurmountable.

And yes, crime comes with danger and consequences. But in a world where there's no safety net, you have to get lucky to crawl back up, and if you get arrested you can't ever make real money unless you own your own business or do crime, why would you think that wouldn't be an acceptable risk to the unfortunate?

If you don't help people who are all fucked up, you are literally creating a path to crime.

hire

FACT: Nearly all billionaires alive inherited everything they owned and have never worked a single day in their lives.

It would be interesting to see what Nestor Makhno could've made out of a whole country, unfortunately he was far too principled to survive long swimming with sharks like Lenin and Trotsky.

lol no
Ol' Billy-bob Clinton left office with a surplus of nearly 2 tril, which the Republicans swiftly spent under the Bush admin.

You should get your facts straight before accusing other people of being full of shit.

factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

Meanwhile in commie land

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Shit, nigga. I'm on your side and you're real fuckin dumb

accurate
the greed machine in action

Man you've definitely blown the lid off of mainstream human thought. This picture exposes the core of... something...

actually I know a whole lot more on this subject than you do. It's kind of what I spend my time doing. Please step the fuck down.

>pictures of liberals hits home real hard
>getting offended by the word offended
>Big bad man posts pictures of effeminate males and you take it as a personal attack
Did you forget your hrt today?

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no one knows what you're talking about, but you sound psychotic

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nice boomer meme

So you think Norway is not socialist, brainstem?

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dude I voted for Trump and even I think you're retarded

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(You)

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Damn is that supposed to be insulting? More weirdos for my gay space commie land please

Nobody forces anyone to work anywhere they don't want to work. This isn't a communist country. If an employer doesn't pay enough, he will get shitty help or no help at all. Furthermore, many employers genuienly care for their employees. Just because someone is successful doesn't mean they are heartless and greedy. You are projecting your problems onto others. Most people start a business to make money, not to fuck people over.

uhhhhh, this makes clinton supporters look good

don't be that disconnected

Watch, this post will get zero replies outside of my own.
Neither side likes facts that don't jive with the stupid bullshit that they spout without fact checking themselves first.
You can stop flinging shit at each other now, because you're both retarded apes.

I'm not young. You have no argument.

Norway is capitalist dotard, sorry your occupy democrats facebook following failed you

>Neither side
>side
lol you dumbass

leftists

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Lolol please take me to your fantasy world where an employer goes out of business for not paying enough

pipe down, the adults are talking

Another stupid fucking faggot who can't be fucked spending FIVE GOD DAMNED FUCKING SECONDS TYPING "IS NORWAY DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST??" INTO GOOGLE.

Fucking KILL YOURSELF YOU GOD DAMNED FUCKING IDIOT.

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if what you said was true, the government wouldnt need a minimum wage and people with a full time jobs wouldnt need food stamps.

>If an employer doesn't pay enough, he will get shitty help or no help at all.
Do you have any evidence of this? Like as in serious studies.

Yeah, as in Conservashits and Libtards. You are both irredeemably retarded groups on the whole.

Neck yourself for being so fucking stupid.

Liberal capitalism is not socialism

yeah don't start that, it's gonna be never ending.. there's mental cases everyfuckingwhere

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Investments create jobs. When you buy stock, you are basically loaning a company money and you get paid a dividend on that money while they are in possession of it. Businesses invest in things with the money. They don't sit on the money and count it. They are trying to make a profit and pay a dividend so people will keep giving them money. Moron.

I want jaundiced sick weirdos please. Grow up and stop worrying about people's appearances.

This goes for liberal shitlords who make fun of Trump supporters appearance too

>democratic socialist
>not capitalism
Not only are you wrong, but you're clinically retarded. It's past your bedtime user

>When you buy stock
I'm sorry, what? fuckin lol
What country do you think you're referring to?

you're a right winger and so not a human

fair

I assume that they originate because the US has created a system where there is no regulation on healthcare pricing and also a system designed to force people to pay insurance to get reasonable prices on medicine. So here you charge 100$ for something that is regulated to 10$ in other places because its lifesaving medicine, and people either have to pay it or pay into a bloated monstrosity of an insurance system lousy with weird kickbacks and shady dealing with the pharmaceutical corporations.

And then the taxpayers still have to pay for all the people who go to the emergency room and are charged 400$ to have a splinter removed but can't actually pay that.

Doctors are only part of the framework of the american medical industry. They aren't even the ones with a decent fraction of the total money within it.

Doubling down on the stupid are we? Is this how you act when you're wrong in real life too? An insufferable faggot who insists he is right despite any and all evidence to the contrary?

Jesus fucking Christ seriously kill yourself you subhuman.

what? when you've owned a business and had employees, get back to me. there is definitely a palpable obligation to make sure people who rely on you for paychecks get paid. employers aren't out fucking people. the vast majority of employers are small businesses that have personal relationships with their employees. you have no clue.

No job needs to send you anything schedules were digital or on paper, the only thing I ever needed was my W2 but I just picked a copy up from work.

And im not asking for no safety net, I had family if I REALLY wanted I could have used on of there addresses or even asked to live there I could have applied for food stamps and sooooo many people told me i should even after I got an apartment. I never needed it, I believe in working for mine, too many people are quick to use the "safety net" as a damn hammock. expanding socialism would quickly see a rapid increase of "people in need"

A friend of mine was who has a decent job but he is lazy, was hanging with me and i was ranting about socialism and how horrible it would be for hard workers and he said "but wouldn't that make things easier for us?" Proof that even though he is an able-bodied man he would rather float along doing nearly nothing than working hard to better himself which was sad to me. Socialism is cancer to ambition

you look gay putting her in front of the USSR flag
keep calling everything socialism and communism and suddenly people start to associate socialism and communism with the things they want

I thought somebody said that rome was capitalist

Hey moron x 12 million, I said that businesses invest that money. But stock trading is a pastime for the capitalist class and contributes nothing to the economy.

>shits on left and right
>hur dur ur just a right winger!
Kill yourself retard.

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>no argument
>hurry and attempt to stifle conversation
>will call me a nazi or a racist next

small businesses that have personal relationships with their employees. you have no clue.

Oh yes, the small business billionaire, said no one ever...

>backed into a corner
ah the public education system failing the sub 70 IQs again. I'll kill myself when norway isn't running under capitalism, until then keep riding the green anal train

More Americans work at large firms than small firms and this is easily debunked:
nysscpa.org/news/publications/the-trusted-professional/article/more-americans-work-at-big-firms-than-small-ones-040717

You're arguing from authority which is of course a logical fallacy. For all we know you ran a business into the ground though you still "owned it" for a while.

>muh opinion injected as absolute
>Proof that even though he is an able-bodied man he would rather float along doing nearly nothing than working hard to better himself
>working hard to better himself

You mean working extra hard to score Mr. Shekelbergerstein another Maserati?
Your friend is smarter than you lol.

>Hey moron x 12 million
user.. not on Yea Forums..

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I dont know why liberals hate nazis, we believe in socialism

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>When you buy stock, you are basically loaning a company money and you get paid a dividend on that money while they are in possession of it.

No, he was actually kinda correct.
Buy a stock and you're buying a piece of that company. But after an IPO, which generates cash for a company, you're buying a piece of the company from someone else who owns a piece of the company. The company gets no cash out of the deal.

Nobody forces anyone to work anywhere. I have personal experience. If you want good help, it costs money. It's like having your home remodeled. You get what you pay for. Company A might charge x amount and have a proven track record of quality work. Company B might charge 20% less but can't produce the same quality. If you have a good employee that produces, it's worth paying them more to stay than pay a lesser person less.

You can be talked to, now if there were more of you we might actually be able to fix something.
Avoiding totalitarianism while creating loose enough social space that the ambitious can create wealth AND everyone can benefit is my ideal.
IDGAF what the hell name we hang on it, I just want it to work, and that's going to take whacking some ideologues...

[citation needed]

There are very few rich people with vast quantities of liquid assets just floating around. The best way to make more money is to put it into something that is going to make more money. They made a billion dollars by using money to make more money. They're not just going to stash it in every mattress in their mattress factory

>1st side
Trannies
Fat acceptance
Literal cucks
Vegans
Dudes who weigh less than chicks
Tumblr
LGBTQAIPSL2+
>2nd side
Incest
Sky monkey

Choose

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>when your understanding of stocks is tenuous at best but you're trying really hard to convince everybody you know what you're talking about
0/10 nigger

>Like as in serious studies.
Show me science magic!!

A guy from the State Labor Board came into my shop last week and
started asking me about my employee's pay and work hours. So I told him "Right now,
I've got 3 guys making $25-$30/hr, 5 making $20-$25/hr, 14 making $15-$20/hr,
all working 40 hrs/week. And there's one guy making about $2/hr and working
90 hrs a week."
"That's the guy I want to talk to!", he exclaimed, as his eyes lit up.
"Um", I said, "That would be me".

Knock, knock... time to wake up

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It does contribute to the economy for the reasons I said. The stock market going up or down doesn't contribute to the economy but the money invested in those businesses does. The company hires or develops a new product. It does affect the economy. When you buy a stock, you are giving that company money to invest. You are basically loaning that company money.

It isn't wise to imply that it isn't if you're in China.
They've got part of the answer but the totalitarian trends are probably going to fuck them over...

Have you ever even HEARD of an offshore tax haven?

>they don't sit on the money and count it
That is absolutely literally what they do.

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Google Bolivia

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no wonder you're such a idiot, with this simplistic world view full of dumb generalizations....

It's only 100 years old.

> this post 3 seconds after OP
> no, no, not a raid by discord trannies, just ignore the timing, screencaps, and proof of coordinated spam threads.

Rhymes with Rage

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Imagine walking down the street in 1950 carrying that sign or wearing a Make America Great Again hat. Imagine if that sign had said, black or Jew instead of white.

How could nobody complain. How could anyone justify such a sign. They really do want to kill us. The idea of it doesn't even phase them.

This will not end well.

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>They're not just going to stash it in every mattress in their mattress factory
Sure they are going to stash it in a tax haven, turn it into property, start a new business. But guess what, if they paid their workers more, those workers could buy property, buy stocks, or maybe even one day... have enough that they decide to hide in a tax haven

Socialism is bad, communism is bad, capitalism is bad. The only true way of living is through tribalism like our ancestors did. Civilization from the beginning was a mechanism that organized and enforced labor, and it will continue to be that way because a civilization can't exist in any other way. You're all just arguing about what the better way of being exploited is.

Silly trumpsters don't know Kim is Jong-Un's last name. Dumfux.

>thinking right gays are even close to the gender pretenders
losing a battle you can't win

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So scared of her they bash her regularly on public forums. You don't know what fear is.

who wants the USA to be a communist country?

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Not generalizations, but trends

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These are shill threads by fat dykes, and disgusting mentally ill trannies

so true. i've not gotten paid for weeks waiting for checks from customers. people don't understand that.

>3 seconds
Look again, dumbshit.

>hurr durr coordinated spam
That's my post. Do I really have to tell your retarded ass I'm not spam?

He is lazy, and has done almost every drug there is and probably will knock some dumb girl up and not marry her and the cycle will continue.

Since I was homeless and worked my way back I have investments now, I might never have a Maserati but I definitely see a nice house and car in my future if things stay the course. Plus I am in no way complacent with life, I'm always ready for a new opportunity to created or learn something and advance myself however possible. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs were people fucking with electronic in garages were would they be now in a socialist US? How much money did the fucking "Slapchop" make? Here in the Capitalistic USA you are the only real opposition to your success

Lazy people like you are the real reason socialism can't work

/thread

most countries have single payer healthcare, lower healthcare costs and longer lifespan

you're delusional OP

Look at those faggots... they need the shit kicked out of them. That's all that's wrong with them.We kicked the shit out of them when I was in high school, when the fuck did that trend stop?

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not even a political event? is that even in the US?

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wow look an antisemite calling people names

what a surpise

People still think any of this is about Trump.

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>conjecture, projection, ad hominem, and opinion with some opinion stated as fact sprinkled in
Your druggie friend is smarter than you.

is right. What he appears to be failing to realize is that in america, there are 15-20% of the population so poor that they basically have to take whatever they can get. They don't have access to connections or higher education, and have to expend all of their time on staying alive, so they have basically no time to better themselves. And even if they do, most places don't take 'hobby-tier mechanic' as an actual quantity of skill. So they have to take what they can get and maybe eventually gain enough experience doing shit work to do shit work for more money.

Everyone needs to make money to live. And in the modern age, skilled jobs are harder and harder to find.

Nope, we just want this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

Ain't nuthin' stupider ner angrier than them fuckin muriKKKans. They done shoot themselves in the foot to prove it, too.

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canadafag here, can confirm
so nice to be able to get your appendix removed without being 40 000$ in debt

Okay I'll bite. Doesn't change the fact the overwhelming 98%+lgbtqiaplmnop are democrats in america

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conservashits in a nutshell
It's painful to read.

>Do I really have to tell your retarded ass I'm not spam?
>all spammers admit they’re spam
Keep it up with your Che tee shirt. You’ll always be the failure you are now

Millions of whites murdered by a fucking Kike and this faggot replies, "HE USED MEAN WORDS EVERYONE, HE USED MEAN WORDS!!!"

Words are over the line for you, but genocide you are able to justify. It was the same Jews selling the crack to the blacks. I imagine some of them are going to figure that out.

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>And in the modern age, skilled jobs are harder and harder to find.

there's also that general decline in the rate of profits thing that is endemic to capitalism; the more you mine rocks and sell rocks to people, you have less rocks to mine and less people to sell rocks to

nice bait faggot

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thank you

sure kid.
the ones you know about.

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The rats won't reply to this one.

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/thread

This fucking picture makes me rage.

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1. Spammers don't stick around and most use automation.

2. >hurr durr ur a failur
At least I know the difference between minutes and seconds you fucking imbecile.

you seem pretty unhinged, do you have any evidence to support these outlandish claims you're making?

> being this retarded
Wew trannie

Happy are we
darkies so gay!
Come, let us sing
and dance while we play!
– song from Jacksonian United Snakes

yeah everybody knows trump has a tiny dick that looks like Toad from Mario Bros

This isn't a formal debate so all of those things are fine here. Fact is you and him both sound like lazy people. My projection backed by the fact that most his friends like him have already done it and he has some to me a few time with "dude she said she might be pregnant" and You can't really be about to argue single motherhood isn't cancer in society

Do you mean the photographic evidence you just looked at? Is that the evidence you are looking for?

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>right hates gays
>sjws hate trump
>gender identity politics is left
>actually thinking genderqueer fluid sexual pretenders are republicans
No intellectual consistency really, just trolling or are you really this retarded?

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A company has a finite amount of stock available. That is the loan and it does take the form of the original IPO. The company pays interest on that loan in the form of dividends. People are allowed to trade said stock. The company can keep that loan rolling for as long as they want as long as they keep paying their dividend and people still want said stock. The company also can buy back said stock, which pays off the loan. It is a loan with continual annual interest in the form of a dividend. The amount of stock vs the valuation of the business is what is basically the price of the stock. If a company didn't have the right to buy back the stock, I would agree with you. It is technically a loan to the business that they maintain continually.

>I don't follow politics and think taking a position of "everyone else is stupid" makes me seem smart and enlightened instead of ignorant and useless

Why? You should feel like you have won. The picture has no basis in reality, it doesnt highlight anything, its not ironic.
They basically drew dicks on her face, because they have no evidence to back up their claims. All the memes about her are baseless.

>This isn't a formal debate so all of those things are fine here.

this is the among the most absurd things I've ever heard. this assertion is utterly baseless.

Keep talking. We're all listening.

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The left can’t meme

Where there is no insight, the people perish:
but happy is he who keepeth the law.
– Proverbs of Solomon

>so true. i've not gotten paid for weeks waiting for checks from customers. people don't understand that.

Yeah, I'm on a 30 day pay cycle that customers sometimes push out to 60 and sometimes 90 days.
So a busy month has me paying out a shitload in wages/overtime, materials, power, etc. Then I wait a few months to get paid.
A slow couple months leading into a busy month can give me some serious cash flow issues.
Can't complain though. Last year I passed $3 million in sales with a 14% profit margin.

exactly, that photograph isn't evidence to support your claims, for instance, i don't see a single jewish person in either photo

I'm . I work fifty hours a week and go to school for another ten. My girlfriend works 40, and even with that money is sometimes tight. I had medicaid once a long time ago and it was wonderful, just knowing you were covered and that if you needed medicine, you wouldn't find yourself magically in need of an extra 50$ a month.

Social programs shouldn't exist to give lazy people the ability to do nothing and live. Even the ones we have now try hard to avoid that. But they should exist to take some of the pressure off of the people who don't have a lot of wiggle room.

I bet you money that the gains we got from giving some people who actually wanted to better themselves the opportunity to, would vastly outweigh the losses we got from slackasses who wanted to fuck off and found the means to do so. Why hurt the people who could be doing good for society and science just to punish the people who are already doing nothing for it?

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Is "unhinged" the new buzzword for people sharing factual information?

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it looks like all you have are these propaganda photos and rhetoric, which might make the unintelligent incensed but they're falling on deaf ears to individuals like me

This kills the discord trannie

They look familiar.
Maybe it's just that all honkies look alike.

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It's not a loan, Dipshit.

i was actually responding to the slurs typed in all caps

propaganda and rhetoric are not facts by the way, i've seen little in the way of facts and evidence

>All the memes about her are baseless.
This is a meme with her own words.
> baseless
Okay trannie

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> propoganda
> a literal photo taken in England

How will you respond to this one? We know it's true, anybody can go and look this up right now. It's impossible to deny. But go ahead, PROVE ME WRONG

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where's the lie?

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its not a meme its a statement you mongoloid

england has been a multicultural state going all the way back to foundation of the kingdom of England itself

it also has a large commonwealth which includes territories in asia and the indian subcontinent. those people are part of the greater british commonwealth, despite your bigotry

I understand to a point, coming from where I was it was a long time before I got heath insurance so in a way I guess luck was involved because getting hurt or sick would have fucked me. HOWEVER I'd need to see the data to even consider the pros out weight the cons. And again I'm not against helping people in NEED, I'm saying we are helping enough now and I'm not for expansion of that help especially since it come with more governmental control

That's nice. I usually get paid immediately but do have to wait sometimes. Seems like either $50k in the company account or $500. I almost hit $1 million in sales with about the same profit margin. Good job, user.

what
i need to know more now, wtf

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Fuck helping people?

Just like when your mob calls everyone and everything that isn't sucking LibTard cock Nazi.
Before the post-election bitchfit Nazis were a bad joke kept alive by the FBI as a honeypot, after two years plus of squealing tantrum there are growing numbers of moral munchkins happily waving swastikas as provo, and it's your own damn fault.
Who's going to give a flying fuck about anything you say when the *actual* Nazis come stepping out?

...are you stupid or something?

> what is supply and demand
> what is human nature
> what is scarcity, why is gold universally valuable, why do diamonds cost money, ad infinitum

You fat dykes sure aren’t sending your best.

can anyone translate please?

What's your business?

She is talking about food, water, generators during a tragedy, medicine. You are fucking special.

Kek. The absolute state of mentally I’ll leftists. BTFO

When goods becomes
scarce, it's when the people
need them the most. but our
broken economic system
makes them more expensive
instead of cheaper. it's
unfair and cruel. it's time
for us to fix [insert agena here, do not put "it"]

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Sad but true: the GOP is full of closeted faggots. Always has been. Roy Cohn, the Stephen Miller behind the Commie scares in the '50s and "best friend" of Donny Trump, died with AIDS. "Miss" McConnell and Lindsey Graham, both gloryhole faggots.
They're so full of hatred because they hate themselves. No MAGA for them!

Not only can the left not meme, but they also don’t understand what a meme is.
Lolololol

leftist philosophers and economists have written volumes about the questions you're asking, and they actually have some excellent points about all that

lets start with human nature; this is a phrase that's used as a way to end conversations but has no real definition

the fact of the matter is humans are able to change nature and are able to change their own nature.

if you succumb to this idea of human nature based on avarice and hostility you're no better than bacteria

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Ahahahaha
Being this stupid.

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not an argument

You're too smart for this mob...

"I have never understood why it is "Greed" to want to keep the money
you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money".
_Thomas Sowell_

BHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You'll literally say anything.

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>tomorrow
>every single day this week
Im not a republican but you guys really need to take the L in peace

> If there's 10 homes and 10 homeless people, the homes should go to Jeff Bezos; that method WORKS because "supply and demand"
> The economic system we've had for the last 2-3 centuries is based on "human nature", even though our species is over a hundred thousand years old
> implying anyone, AOC included, doesn't know what is scarcity or why diamonds aren't free
Please go away.

>the fact of the matter is humans are able to change nature and are able to change their own nature.
Just in case everyone itt didn’t know with 100% certainty that you and your disgusting fellow raiders are mentally ill trannies “stuck in the wrong body so we’ll change nature,” they sure do now.

inequality, largely.

the fact of the matter is american rich people are too greedy, they're so greedy that they're killing their own people by charging so much for healthcare

that's a kind of greed that is clearly sociopathic

to fix, the broken economic system that hurts people when they are in the most need.

Example: Medicine

Correct.
Pointing out your very low iq. Any questions?

>Im not a republican but
That's what hasbara trolls say.

prove me wrong, the kingdom of England was the work of Alfred the Great and represented the merger of many ethnicities on the british isles into a single cohesive state.

I love how you think we're some hivemind and all think "ABORTION = AWESOME!"
Sanger was a massive cunt and you are retarded.

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Would work if I was american, nice try cuck

i guess i've hit the bottom of these guys barrels, its just gonna be ad hominems from here on out

Arguments are for /pol/, jew. Hie thee hence.