>UN wants to ban loli
>Could spend all that money, time & resources helping ACTUAL IRL people in need instead
>Behold, the UN's priorities
MFW.
>UN wants to ban loli
>Could spend all that money, time & resources helping ACTUAL IRL people in need instead
>Behold, the UN's priorities
MFW.
>people want to delegitimize and stigmtize sexually tilted images of children
Sure. Your right to see these images doesn't take precedence over an irl child's right to be free from sexualization by you.
loli is cancer
UN defeats loli
thus, the UN just defeated cancer.
not a reasonable goal. adults have a right to explore and indulge without harming individuals. children aren't harmed by drawings, and the cultural argument is too much of a strawman.
It's fucking unreal to have a number of countries with actual human rights / child abuse going on in real life turn to Japan and go "Ayy, stop drawing these shit cartoons, shit's confusing our collective morality"
The world is a fucking joke.
I'm just really mad that the un wastes time with this bs
There are no absolute rights, user. Follow the rules or go to jail. Stop framing sexualization of children as an issue of human rights, that's an intellectually deficient lie - a lie told by retards for other retards to believe.
A drawing of a fictional character is a drawing of a fictional character.
If you can criminalize a drawing of a fictional character, think about what a MASSIVE slippery slope this is from a legal perspective.
You are criminalizing FICTION. This is extremely dangerous from a perspective of precedent.
Aw, someone doesn't like arguments?
man, how long until we all obliterate each other?
>Stop framing sexualization of children as an issue of human rights,
Read that again, but slowly.
We don't want to see it. Those are the rules. Follow the rules or go to jail. This isn't about your rights, it's about your behavior. There are no absolute rights, your argument is invalid.
>Follow the rules or go to jail
>Listen here bitch, follow the rules and get your black ass to the back of the bus or we're going to go visit a tree
Your shit position is not an argument, not everyone else.
My point is, if you can criminalize fiction, you can criminalize anything. You are bafflingly oblivious to this danger.
>We
So if one has a minority view, they have no rights?
what argument? i didnt see one from you to begin with
the montra of the authoritarian regime. How is it intellectually deficient? It's a matter of observable fact; of actual and evidentiary logic that consenting adults have been creating and will continue to create sexually explicit works that involve unusual or abhorrent subject matter - including depictions of fictional children. How is going up against human expression and thought itself logical if there's no direct correlation to instances of ACTUAL harm??
Rules can oppress, and rights should be absolute.
Seriously, you Europeans would happily surrender yourselves to tyranny if the wording on the legal document was vague enough, lol.
>if black people must be treated as humans I should have the right to look at sexualized images of children
Disregarded.
>minorities get treated like shit!
And?
Don't imply you don't support authoritarians.
There are no absolute rights.
The right to draw and view fictional characters (in a way that is clearly not reality) should not be criminalized. There is no slippery slope here, as the existence of tentacle rape hentai doesn't promote the further occurence of tentacle rape. Fictional/acted rape porn does not condone the act of rape. Only the ethos matters - i.e. a work of fiction that portrays rape versus one that promotes rape. They are not mutually inclusive, and should not be regarded as such.
Also, the level of polarization on the issue does not legitimize your case. If you want to ban a type of fictitious representation of something, take it up with the first amendment. Clearly exploiting children is horrible. But to draw something with any interaction or involvement of a child? My suspicious are raised, but there is no actual fault here.
Why, because you Europeans have no concept of them? I'm not shocked considering you invented the European Union, an institution designed specifically to take power away from the people.
This man is too fucking stupid to have this argument boys. Call this shit in, we're wasting our time.
Haha get fucked paedo xD
UN explicitly tried to influence 2016 election. Nobody talks about it.
no one is going to agree on anything.
so when is WWIII?
why can't we just settle everything the old fashioned way?
if you don't wanna see it then don't look at it. It's not for you to decide what words and forms of expression others may have. That feeds into the lie that humanity and progress can be reigned in like a dog on a leash, which is inherently cruel and wrong.
As other anons have said, freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
I don't. authoritarianism is defined as rampant enforcement and advocacy of strict obedience at the cost of freedom. Give me my freedom, nigger.
>words and forms of expression
This is about freedom of speech and there are no absolute rights, user, period. You are not ushering in the next phase of human development, you just want to look at sexualized images of children. If you want to be free move to a place with fewer regulations. I recommend Morocco, they have good French trains.
I'm impressed by your deludedness
You keep saying that over and over, how are rights not absolute? that's literally an oxymoron. Privileges are not absolute, rights are.
If a cartoon depicting a violent act is legal to make and own, then how is an abhorrent cartoon any different? These are considered forms of speech. Why should one be restricted, if any?
>appeal to numbers
>there more of us that want this follow our lead or leave
You're not equipped to have this conversation. Be it your inability to see that a parallel drawn between racism and this serves to illustrate your heave handed approach to discourse, or the fact that you're conflating rights and privilege. Both points show you don't understand the subject matter.
If we're going to devolve to "there are no rights", then let's open this can of worms for what it is. There is but one right in the universe, and it is the right of might. If you are so sickened by the thought of cartoons and the people who draw them, round up a tribe of other frightened, like-minded kretins to bludgeon all the loli artists' hands so they are unable to draw. Of course they could counter with their own band and beat you into submission as well. It's all a matter of where you draw the line in the sand before you become a mindless bafoon.
If rights are not absolute, what is the point of them Tyrant?
The government does not give you rights! The constitution states the unalienable, “god given” rights to control government
>absolute right
>a right that can not be interfered with by the state
International law says things like being free from torture or inhumane treatment are absolute rights, but in the space you and I occupy in our daily lives, you're saying that the state has no right to interfere with speech? Think about what you're saying.
Don't pretend you don't advocate for the tyranny of the majority when it suits you. I'm describing the world the way it is.
>we're
You can, I'm not. Go ahead.
Not him. I can kind of see what you're saying about there being a parallel with racism, but I think that is a weak cop-out argument/direction to take. I'd avoid racism because it's just a buzz-word "gotcha", and makes the point seem weak. Just some constructive feedback
Hope this is true and would fully support it... I can't post andy sixx on /r/ or download a car yet somehow pedos get away with their sick shit because "its a cartoon"... Bunch of faggots
You need to really divulge the point you're getting across about there being no absolute rights. If there are no rights AT ALL, then even any authoritative body has no right to meddle with anyone else. Hence right of might. Now if you are a bit more verbose, some of us might understand.
>Don't pretend you don't advocate for the tyranny of the majority when it suits you.
I don't. Quick postulating actions of everyone to fit your narrative, you fucking troglodyte.
> I'm describing the world the way it is.
You're describing the world as you see it which would be fine if you were open to new ideas, and you're clearly dug in your trench deflecting all criticism with "don't pretend we don't live in the same world" which is not an argument.
I see what you mean. I'll work on avoiding lazy analogies. Appreciate you taking the time, user.
Unless you're European, lol. Then government controls you.
>Can't download a car
You can't? Scrub.
You are deriving your moral authority from THE STATE, instead of "The People". Backwards Europeans.
> or download a car yet somehow pedos get away with their sick shit because "its a cartoon"
You can do the same shit with your car, dickhead.
Download away.
We're not crabs you disgusting nigger. GOD I hate this defeatist attitude!
Seriously Europe, the power you give your "benevolent" state, the more it will oppress you.
I'd pay a few shekels to know how many of these posts are from bots, and a few more to know why.
So why is literature always outside the realm of this? If a picture is obscene, how is a description not? Why don't the people who are fanatical about loli being child porn also up in arms about Game of Thrones featuring sex with minors?
Because they're just trying to virtue signal. Loli is not cp because there is literally no child. Just like a page of text is not a child, or your imagination is not a child.
Pic very much related.
>Pic related
It's called the Treachery of Images
"The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture 'This is a pipe', I'd have been lying!"
-René Magritte
>there are no absolute rights
This is the mentality of a slave, not a man. You are like a whipped dog. The bill of rights does not GIVE us rights, it PROTECTS the rights we were born with and impedes those who want to deprive you of them.
Newsflash!
The UN has no power to deal with REAL issues.
They pick issues like this which they can just announce with no real effort needed.
Found the arts student
You read the Bill of Rights and stopped reading.
Except the part where the post didn't mention the bill of rights once.
Oh my God. People can literally click the post number and see you're lying, user. Why are you lying?
Read it again but slower.
This is true
Now this is shitposting!
>lrn2read
Based user giving source, thanks!
Good, loli is fucking cancer and positively reinforces pedophilia. I hope they ban scat porn next I'm tired of stumbling upon aspie shitsmearers by accident.
loli is cancer , but baning loli will increase amount of child molesting and rape
>The world should have my tastes and morality
Narcissism the post - The Simpleton.
Imagine unironically believing someone is a simpleton for not sharing your attraction to shit logs and prepubescent girls. What fucking planet are you from?
That's not why I think you're a simpleton. Your argument that people should just believe and like the shit you like or fuck off is why you're basic as fuck.
lol the UN is a fucking joke, it turned into woke-central and now they have nothing but bad ideas that nobody's probably going to do jack shit with because they're all too political
just another leftist co-opted institution hollowed out in the middle and worn as a creepy "skin suit" of real authority, too bad it can only make screeching alien bug noises and will just be shot on sight
>thought crime
We need to Abolish the UN and EU and unite Europe under 1 nation. Ein reich! Ein Fuhrer!
I literally never said people should share the same beliefs I do or fuck off, you are just projecting your own need to grandstand for people you think are legitimately oppressed, proven further by calling me 'basic' as if I'm not hip and trendy because all the cool kids jack their little ding dongs to porn that reinforces mental illness nowadays. Do you truely believe that porn should have zero moderation? Or are u mad because I attacked your personal fetish?
>you are just projecting your own need to grandstand for people you think are legitimately oppressed
This implies I believe you have the capacity to oppress anyone. That's just not true, and it's narcissistic as fuck to angle that way. That does, however, support my earlier assumption that you're so basic you're only interested in interpretation derived from your perspective.
>I literally never said people should share the same beliefs I do or fuck off,
You did not. Those are context clues based off of our limited interaction. The more you express your ideas the more I am convinced that I am right as you offer more shit that reinforces the established assumption.
>proven further by calling me 'basic' as if I'm not hip and trendy
I just didn't want to type simpleton again as it felt stale. You're projecting.
>all the cool kids jack their little ding dongs
I am sorry you're insecure about your peepee.
>to porn that reinforces mental illness nowadays.
All porn reinforces mental illness so why are you splitting hairs?
>Do you truely believe that porn should have zero moderation?
Show me where you see this.
>Or are u mad because I attacked your personal fetish?
Why are you assuming that any challenge to your intellectual integrity is due to being assblasted by the attack on a fetish and not a full scale onslaught on logic and reason?