So im trying to figure out whats happened to my friend...

So im trying to figure out whats happened to my friend.....supposedly he smoked weed with a friend and then suddenly started talking about global consciousness and being dead and seeing different realities, one where I killed you, one where we were rich"

Last night I was on the phone with him for 6hrs and he was broken and not making any sense. He never talks politics and kept saying Donald Trump. He kept saying I was right the whole time, and that i know he knows were both dead, but were living forever. Today he doesn't remember talking so he's been taken to the hospital for safety.

He told me of a morning he woke up and he could see everything like a film strip, and that he could move and go into them and they were all the possibilities.

Hospital says theres no drugs and ct scan is clear. Makes me think he might have seen some crazy ass shit even though he just smoked weed and his friend was perfectly fine.

Is it possible he's lost in the void right now. Or is it just simple a mental break down?

I can understand where he's coming from. I've had a similar experience but it was more like TV screens stacked beside each other but like paper thin edges. I reached that from hitting rock bottom and contemplating suicide which he clearly is in the realm of. But I've never talked to him about things to this level or shared that experience with him. When he told me of the film strips I related by just mentioning the Tv's but not how I got there (no talk of death). I thought it would make him feel less crazy but its possible I pushed him deeper.

I've had some pretty deep talks on these subjects here. It's been awhile since ive come across one. I could use some wisdom and advice here for a fellow brother.

I love you man!

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Hey man its possible he had whats called a breakthrough trip, its can happen on thc for people with low tolerances. this can permanently affect the mind.

Man what the fuck. How can someone be this stupid. Y’all must be schitzo or something. Weed doesn’t do anything like what you are describing

no? firt time i smoked i got traces and hallucinated like a mfer, iits literally all in the mind, if you let the drug take over you can trip really hard, ive done lots of psychedelics and smoked more weed than i can fathom

he didnt smoke normal cannabis. probably like spice which is fake weed or that shit was laced.

I agree, but ive heard stories like the previous comment. Hence why im coming to discuss it. Maybe each person has certain limits. The dude was already probably getting large doses in his sleep. Like he talked about dreams being consistent like he was in minecraft or some build your world simulator and he just continued working on this creation he was on.

I want to stay based in reality here but what if?

But the friends completely fine and was able to calm him down during it. But they said they were just normal stoned. But he clearly wasn;t.

prob. laced with stronger stuff other than weed

yeah because the friend new it was laced

Hmm its possible. I don;t know the person very well. Doesn't seem like the person but maybe. But that sober friend just ditched them for the past week supposedly because they wanted to distance themselves because of the experience (fearful of him now for the trip).

Maybe they dont want to be caught, but they dont see like the type.......Also I think LSD would show up in urine/blood within 10 days would it not?

nope, hard drugs leave the system in like 24 hours. it does show up in hair though i believe

>67
lsd must be spine tapped otherwise its untraceable

I doubt they'll do a sample but ill suggest it.

Blind leading the blind here
LSD has no lasting physiological effects (to an extent) nor any detectable metabolites but yeah generally with hard drugs 1-3 days
It's difficult to say what happened with your friend and I haven't heard of a breakthrough trip before but it's possible your friend had latent mental issues that the bud has brought about - I haven't extensively purveyed the literature on this but generally steady exposure (~3 months-1 year) to thc on adolescents with latent schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorders can bring about psychosis with long reaching effects kind of exposing the schizophrenia for lack of better terminology
He sounds pretty delusional and this combined with the fact it was likely proper bud as ya pal didn't experience a whacky high (spice generally isn't detectable due to it being a possible possible analogues and weird RCs - it is also due to this you'd KNOW if it was spice - think pcp binge style behaviour to just general zombie shit) leads me to think that ya pal had a psychotic break with possibly permanent effects

Thanks for your comment. But im at a toss up if its permanent yet. Hopeful obviously. But my father also went through something similar but he wasn't visiting Alice and the Gang for tea like my friend. He was "gone" for like a half year or so but he's fine now. I see that as the worst case, especially since the CT scan came back clear - if it was permanent would it not show something?

Bruv I beg ya please stop chatting street myth sorta bullshit, it's plain misinfo
No one is going to tap ya fucking spinal cord for drug testing
Even then there's no detectable metabolites for lsd for commercial industrial tests (I just looked it up online just to verify n I was interested and as it turns out you can actually test through some adapted analytical chemistry, v expensive, for iso and N derivative metabolites that last a fair while although the detection window isn't particularly large - I think this was for the navy circa 1999 so makes ya wonder how many military geezers were trippin tit on base ennit) so a hospital doing it btw would be unlikely unless ya want a fat med bill

cannabis induced psycosis

yes it can

People lace shit to fuck with their “friends” all the time.

oh fuck dude it sounds like your friend had what us burnouts call a “green ascension”. He’s finally starting to see through the lies and propaganda that Big Milk has been spreading, don’t worry about him he’ll awake in his new form in about 3-4 business days

I mean unless they already druggies not usually lol. I’ve met a lot of scum fucks but I can’t imagine any of them actually doing that unless they were trying to rape or they didn’t like you lol

Sorry man I honestly couldn't say whether the CT would show anything different neuroscience ain't my forte ennit
Thc has been shown (although not without arguement and the overall results of this and similiar studies I would say have not been conclusive) to alter grey matter density/shape (happens anyway) so I dunno whether that would do something?
I'd imagine that if it's latent nothing would show up different as the issues were already there but not on the surface if ya get me? Honestly I'm not by any stretch of the imagination knowledgeable on such topics so really try and get a nuanced opinion from a medical psychiatric professional

Man there’s nothing you can do. The pot might have triggered a psychosis that he already had. If he’s not getting back to normal in a few days chances are he’s gonna need a lot of meds and treatment

>green ascension
Haha I hope so, cause he's on some crazy level right now. I just want him to come back! I'm trying to look for a drug that might help psychosis.

Thanks, will do!

Look at this positively, write down everything he says, declare him a prophet, start a religion and get rich Worked for Hubbard

Don’t try to handle it yourself bro. If he actually did have some sort of psychotic experience he needs to speak to multiple psych professionals. From my own personal research it seems like schizophrenia is the most likely to stem from smoking weed (and if that’s the case, he REALLY needs to see help), but only if it is already dormant in the person. Also, I can tell you from experience that trying to self medicate just digs a far deeper hole.

If it makes you feel any better though, people can go through full psychotic episodes to the point where they’re walking down the street naked scared of the demons and with the right treatment are able to live regularly-somewhat regularly. Sounds like your buddy isn’t that far gone though so just get him help before it escalates.

Your friend is correct
We are dead
We do live forever.
We must choose to live forever
Or repeat desireful suffering existence.
...
Maybe. Ahah

Yes thats reassuring, I lost sight of that. As far as I know, he hasn't done anything stupid like that - he's just disconnected from himself. I think some meds for a bit, healthy eating and some sleep/time and he'll find his way back.

I do feel guilty, i've mentioned it but I have some very dangerous ideas and I haven't directly had those conversations with him but he knows about them. Im just trying to do my best to see if I can find any solution or explanation (grounded or ungrounded) to his state hes in.

I know what your talking about, and thats why he said that I AM RIGHT. But who knows. What I told him in response that I do talk crazy but that's because im grounded (or I think I am) in base reality and observe/entertain ideas. I've had some ideas get introduced and they're still "processing"

Like as much as I want to make the jump to see, I also know it's a complete illusion/lie. So I choose to stay in base reality.

Thanks to all those who contributed, you've also shed some light on some personal problems I need to work towards. My friend rarely smokes but i smoke every day and can say I might be exhibiting some side effects discussed.

In terms of solution it sounds like you got it figured out. Just make sure you keep an eye on him down the road. Psychotic episodes can happen whenever and get triggered by a lot if the person is susceptible to them and not getting treated for them. The delusions also usually get progressively worse over time from what I’ve seen (should probably say I’m not a professional, just someone who’s well acquainted with quite a few people with some sort of serious mental health diagnosis). Make sure he stays on top of not being crazy. As far as explanation goes only thing that really makes sense to me is he had some latent psychosis that was triggered. As far as “dangerous ideas” I’m not really following because I skipped over a bit of the thread, but from my understanding it’s not like you can trigger someone going crazy by telling them your darkest conspiracy theories. Peoples brains handle info differently. If he was already crazy and THEN you told him a bunch of weird shit, you might want to feel guilty but idk man. Not like you knew buddy was going to lose it

Seems like he'll pull through. Psychosis/mania will happen once in a while with just about any drug. He can take it any way he wants as a breakthrough or a breakdown. Ive experienced it on various psychedelics, amphetamine and canabinoids. He probably should go to a doctor and check his thyroid if he doesn't have problems with mental health. Also weed isn't always benign it can cause psychosis if the THC to CBD ratio is fucked up. Most likely hes just stressed.

Yeah, I hear you. I just wonder if there is such an idea that can drive people mad? Like cultist have that draw people who are attracted to the idea/escape. Maybe its not so much an idea but maybe series of ideas and or relatable experiences to those ideas, that can lead one to unlocking more potential of the brain. Either becoming more intelligent or getting a sort of vision of "what is". But obviously there is no ground or gravity to this idea, except linking peoples experiences together.

Its possible that psychosis is a similar experience to everyone who goes through it. Like he talked about a film strip of experiences and in mine I saw tv screens stacked beside each other. And ive read other stories of people recounting "profound, but crazy" experiences.

Agreed, id like to think of mine as a breakthrough as so does he. But he clearly cant hold onto it and this reality. The goal is to get him back to base reality and then if he saw it as a breakthrough maybe over time he can learn to handle both?

People will tell him its a breakdown, and im concerned that will confuse him or make him feel alone.

In been abstnent for a while but about a year ago I had organic psychosis. Reintegration is different for different people and different sources of the break. He will get over it it will just take time. THC induced psychosis and canabinoid induced psychosis take a bit longer than amphetamine or organic. He should chill and wait till he is better integrated. He'll be fine though.

Thanks, seems like you've got things under control? Your comment is reassuring thanks!

No problem fren

He could have schizophrenia,

When you take mind altering medication of any kind, it may make your hereditary mental illness more visible to yourself and others.

Probably not though. Normal people snap and have acute crises all the time. Was probably just the drug and stress.

Your friend loved smoking weed and instantly adapted a stoner mentality. He pretended like he was extremely high long after he came down, the way that high school kids also pretend to be drunk if you give them non alcoholic beer.

Your friend did not experience any kind of break or psychosis and is not schizophrenic. He's a poser who wants to be a stoner.

I thought about that, but after talking with him personally I dont think this is the case. When he would get HAMMED, I always thought he was playing up being drunk but im wondering if its his personality or maybe he is just posing.

But if he gets put into the hospital for a few days, that will make me believe that he's not faking it. Would be hard to get past the psychologist....hopefully?

void. looping. slightly different yet you remember. hands reaching, pulling. inevitably engulfs.
you are you. but not you. here. but not here. now. but not now.
free

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>But if he gets put into the hospital for a few days, that will make me believe that he's not faking it. Would be hard to get past the psychologist....hopefully?

No not at all. There are no empirical tests in psychology. If he pretends to be crazy he will get treated crazy.

Your friend sounds like a poser to me. I think it's a personality thing dude. You're a little over worried. I don't mean to condescend on you via age, but as you get older, you will see more and more often that people you thought were your friends and normal people, actually have serious issues/damage/personality problems.

For instance I knew a guy who told my whole friend group the story of how his brother died protecting him during a gas station robbery. Later some of us went to the guys' parents house, and guess what, no photos or memorial or anything anywhere of any brother.

I know these two stories aren't similar on the surface, but people are just fucked up, man. Is my point.

That's deep! He would also wrote profound stuff like that.

Psychosis

It's anything between a mental breakdown and permanent damage from smoking cannabis. Some people are liable to develop mental illnesses from smoking cannabis.

Weed effects can last for a week
You dumb fuck degenerates
don't do drugs.

Fucking idiot. Cannabis can cause psychosis, which is what OP is describing.

profound stuff has meaning. that's just random prose.

this is also possible
mental illnesses like psychosis, ESPECIALLY with under developed kids/teens
Anyone who under 16 smokes or does any dug really will get a mental illness from regular use since it alters the physiology of the brain

>psychosis, which is what OP is describing.

What OP is describing is not psychosis. It's pretending.

Yeah I wouldn't know our age difference but I think we'd be close. I just tend to over analyze on things which has led me to some wisdom and some weight/baggage to sort through. I just feel a bit helpless currently and am extending an hand out to those who care to share some of their time with me - comfort and reassurance to some degree. I hate admitting it but thats the reality and im okay with it.

Your not wrong, people are messed and go to extreme lengths for attention. I just can't imagine it happening here.

For me, obviously theres more to your story but I could say that maybe they moved on from him. I tend to do that myself with those who passed, I wouldnt have them visible maybe in an album somewhere. So maybe you jumped the gun on your own guy ;p

Psychosis is not a mental illness.
>Anyone who under 16 smokes or does any dug really will get a mental illness from regular use since it alters the physiology of the brain

there are a lot of studies that say you are completely ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about. HOWEVER, heavy marijuana use before the age of 18 is associated with lower IQ.

Families don't "move on" from murdered kids bro. Lol.

I'm probably more than twice your age.

My intuition: There is nothing wrong with your friend. I appreciate that you are caring about him though.

I almost want to argue against this, but I feel like your time is better served being ignorant.

Yeah if its his parents most likely not, i did a double take and I can agree that its odd - but not out of the question, right? Just a lower probability. I just suggested it because my grandparents lost a son and my mom lost her brother to a car accident outside their house. They didn't keep his pictures out. But they were miserable people to some degree so they're not the average individual.

Thanks for your comment, I hope your right dude!

I mean you probably almost wanted to argue against it and then you googled and realized you were wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about, evidenced by the fact that you called psychosis a mental illness.

Just quit while you're ahead. You are a high school kid and I have a degree in psychology.

It is important to believe what obviously seems to be true in life. You can't always question everything. You have to make judgment calls.

Stories about his brother getting killed always seemed to pop up right around the time that girls were around, etc.

Believe in the smell test, it will treat you right.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21466751
I just don't feel like going over this today. I'm not even the same user.

There's your source, ebin psychologist.

tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/gy8pa9/weed-causes-anxiety-for-some-people
Dumb fuck.
Psychosis is a "mental health problem" involving hallucinations and delusions which can last a few days to INDEFINITELY.
A mental ill is a condition which causes serious disorder in a person's behaviour or thinking.
I'm a psychology fag
I've know a great deal of friends and acquaintances who smoked regularly (weed only) during high school and ALL have mental illness developed or encouraged by marijuana The only ones that don't are ones that tried it once or twice in their lives.
You responded to another user thinking that it was me.

Also ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/does-cannabis-cause-mental-illness
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17662880
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/211301

A single source is meaningless to prepare an argument around. People who understand the current state of science also understand that around 50% of medical studies are irreproducable, meaning you have to have multiple studies with concordant results to mean anything.

>Sample size under 60
Wow, how did I see this coming.

I'm going to give you a big tip, which you probably don't care about because you are not an intelligent self-educating person:

Posting study abstracts that don't say the same thing as anything you said, using them as a punctuation to an "argument", and not reading the actual study, makes you look stupid. The conclusion here doesn't even support anything you said.

Psychosis is a symptom. It's not an illness. Terminology matters.

vice.com as a source. Lol.

op tell him to get anti pychotics fast he was raped really badly without knowing it. he saw a phantasy

talk to me i know everything about it op

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He had a severe instance of Jim Carrey
If he doesn’t even it with some rational thinking in tandem with psychedelics, he’ll stay a christcuck and a wacky ass nigger for the rest of eternity

your friend is just an attention-seeking faggot

tell him to kill himself

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can't tell you what really caused it tho

Everythings pretty much been said, the only thing would be to explore the idea/theory that there is more to this reality and that maybe he's not crazy. But that's not beneficial, just entertainment

Interesting I was just watching a Jim Carey video on my feed. What a coincidence hmmmmm

I used vice because they are biased FOR weed you dumb fuck.
The same way I'd like left wing articles to prove a right wing point etc because it's more likely to be biased AGAINST what im arguing and yet it isn't etc.
Will a left wing say praise socialism; yes. Will a right wing sight praise socialism? No. So why link a right wing site about socialism, ofc they'd be biased against.
>A symptom that has symptoms is only a symptom
Brainlet. Enjoy that black and white mindset when it comes to PSYCHOLOGY of all things.

Have more sources, then? There are also other publications that use the source as a
>source
in their own studies as well... figured someone with a degree in psychology might know how to navigate that site.

>People who understand the current state of science
Oh, here we go. You understand science, and I don't. Mhm.
>around 50% of medical studies are irreproducable
Did you know that 99% of percentages are pulled out of someone's ass?

>you are not an intelligent self-educating person
>that don't say the same thing as anything you said
You're not a very intelligent, self-educating person, if you're going to do this, and not see how there are more than two anons replying to you.

Believe me. If I could muster the care to cut through all this disingenuous hokey nonsense, I'd be spending a good hour crafting a concise series of replies. I can't today, because I could really care less about someone LARPing as someone with a degree.

Read the damn conclusion:
>Long-term heavy cannabis use in healthy individuals is associated with smaller cerebellar white-matter volume similar to that observed in schizophrenia. Reduced volumes were even more pronounced in patients with schizophrenia who use cannabis. Cannabis use may alter the course of brain maturational processes associated with schizophrenia

Did I not say that
>Some people are liable to develop mental illnesses from smoking cannabis
?

no yotsuba says no. youre not allowed too

Get out of here with that shit, there is a chance him or one of our friends is lurking. I don't want this kind of talk in here - in consideration for a fellow brother. But your free to do what you please.

I mean, i’m not trashing Jim Carrey, pretty stoked he started turning himself around but he has gone extremely on the far extremity of christcuckism and he is becoming more and more a wacky ass nigger

well talk to me

>Thinks you can just get a large sample size for a case study that involves LITERAL YEARS and thousands of people and recording results of smoking weed pretty much daily while minimizing variables and outside factors to produce accurate results that have been interfered with as little as possible.
??????
Did you forget day 1 of psychology class when it comes to case studies and sampling?

Yeah I know, it just seems like there is something behind the veil. Maybe its a giant illusion but I think its what the greeks would call "Knowledge of god". Man is not supposed to know such knowledge or it drives them mad.

hes in a phantasy. itsa not schizoid

>Believe me. If I could muster the care to cut through all this disingenuous hokey nonsense, I'd be spending a good hour crafting a concise series of replies. I can't today, because I could really care less about someone LARPing as someone with a degree.
Projection is always fun.
>I could destroy ur ass in a debate, but i won't tho ur welcome

you have to wake him up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dumb fuc

I just established that the conclusion lines up with my statement.

he needs to be woken up!!!!!!

You'd have to explain deeper than that but yes it's probably not schizophrenia
Although it IS common for schizophrenic sufferers to have grandiose delusions, same with bipolar disorders and manic disorders.
Are the hallucinations and illusions purely visual or also auditory and can he interact and touch the things and places in his altered vision?

Calm the autism

he puts you into a fantasy you went to sleep. go to inhouse pharmacie buy antipsychotics

it just means he died in his sleep

if he doesn't believe it it's not real

Not a psychologist or psychiatrist but maybe some meta studies will help the other user's argument:
academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/42/5/1262/2413827
biblioteca.cij.gob.mx/articulos/PsicosisYOtrosTrastornosMentales/LargeEtAl-CannabisOnsetOfPsychosis.pdf
sativaisticated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Meta-analysis-of-the-Association-Between-the-Level-of-Cannabis-Use-and-Risk-of-Psychosis-Cannabis-Marijuana-Research-for-Psychosis.pdf

Sounds to me like he accidentally touched one of the Great Old Ones while high.
Don't worry, his warlock powers should start to develop soon.

Have you seen the Yellow Sign?

this is why i hate psychology it thinks it knows everything

you can try to wake him up but i would just use antipsychotics it's when you go into a phantasy and die but it's not real he then freaked out thinks its real when its not if you wake him up he'll be fine

we don't pay for psychiatristry mistakes anymore

I believe it was just visual but he did say he could experience them so maybe it was a bit of all senses.

How does it mean he died in his sleep?

i hope this finally starts the war with psychiatry

this is psychology's fault

cause he was never supposed to experience them

a psychologist put him into a fantasy and raped him

this is blue pill phantasy

It's possible that his brain has experienced hallucinations in the face of perceived death. But from what I gathered this is an effect that has lasted an entire day and hasn't ceased yet.
We would need to find out if it will stop soonish or if it will last a great deal of time or if it has permanently altered the brain and in which case will have caused permanent damage, but that would be unlikely.
The primary goal right now would be gathering all information on the state of his problems and seeing if they last long term, from the sounds of it he doesn't need urgent care since he's been to hospital? For a test and obviously wasn't in dire straits.
We then need to find out if marijuana was the only drug involved or if there was spiking and if so what and how much was "consumed"
Then we find out if this is just a long lasting effect of marijuana / other drugs in the system which the effects depending on the physiology of the person can last up to a week, in small female cases etc.
If it subsides on its own before a week, then it was purely the drugs, but if not, more drastic measures need to be taken.
It probably doesn't, however, much like the "seeing heaven" when you die and your heart stops beating for a bit before being resuscitated, hallucinations can occur and with oxygen deprivation, lead to odd behaviors and effects, probably not the case but it is "possible" with the effects of drugs that the brain or other parts of the body could be tricked into believing they are dead so to speak. I'm skeptical of this.

Who let you on this website, Yea Forums is 18+ only

they sugar coated him all he knows is that he can't talk about it he broke down then they remade him

There's knowledge he brought back that is not meant for mortal minds

shit like this only happens to me

You have to remember that mental illness does not mean "crazy", most of the time there is a physiological cause, with drugs, either there is trauma and dependency and addiction involved or an alteration of the biological make-up of the brain etc

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look im yotsuba yotsuba is here to help

Weed isnt for everyone
RIP your friends brain
RIP my brain for that matter (lsd)

go to hell

christian fags ruined it all jesus is the son of man not god

The people behind legalise weed are exactly the same as the people behind Big tobacco who insisted for decades tobacco was harmless. Greedy bastards out to get rich. Give it fifty years and all pro weed advocats on her will be remembered as deluded dupes

what it means is two sperm to two eggs++

Why? I thought psychiatrists are just like psychologists only with a proper education.

somehow it still made a child

that means he has four brains

he a hybrid mutant

Why are you mad i was sending my condolences in the form of an rip

Regardless, just monitor your friend, try and find details about the situation in AS MUCH clarity as you can, and make sure he's OK, that he's not sleep deprived, lacking in nutrients or water and that he's not in a state where he can accidentally or consciously hurt himself or others.
generally I think this is a kind of grandiose delusion which is caused by a large dosage (for him) amount of drugs, whether be weed and or something I can't possibly tell.
It SHOULD subside in time, but if it's still the same in two weeks, then he's got long lasting alterations in his noggin, whether they're very detrimental or dangerous or benign, I can't be sure. Would definitely need to see a licensed psychiatrist irl for that. Medication or therapy may be able to alleviate the hallucinations. Whatever you do, don't try and self medicate and handle this without professional assistance.
Thank you dubs word salad man, detox happens naturally over time, nothing required, it's part of bodily function, especially when it relates to chemicals being moved around in the bloodstream.
This is turning into Yea Forums
Psychiatrists are for helping people get better with mental illnesses and such, psychologists are for studying psychology, basically psychologists do the experiments for case studies and find problems and variables and solutions, that will be studied by psychiatrists who directly refer to this info in relation to patients.

three ways you can go about this let him do meth adderall antipsychotis whatever he asks for give him a journal let him write all his ideas down it relates to ozzy ozbournes song diary of a mad man but after he realized it wasnt him he became sane. detox meds viatamines a place to stay

sooner or later they will find out

anonymous does not hide the truth

we expose it for what it truly is

love ur post senpai britbong
it looks and reads like a retard but great content

I diagnose you with the gay

Holy fucking shit i cant be bothered to read past the first few retarded replies, apologies if some user already stated the obvious facts but...

ITS CANNABIS PSYCHOSIS maybe he was prone to psychosis before hand and the weed triggered it, maybe the weed was totally responsible. Thats not something that can be medically recognised yet.

Yes its rare but sadly it happens to some people (one study in the uk estimated 1 in 5000 its impossible to really tell)

No the weed probably wasn't laced, you can get psychosis from plain old MJ

Yes he can get better, hes not in an 'eternal trip' he needs treatment, time off work/school, possibly medication and TOTAL drug abstinence

I love weed, weed is great but just because its safer than alcohol ect ect ect doesn't mean it doesn't carry risks for some. It causes occasional dependance and rare psychosis. Fortunately both can be treated fairly easily.

No you probably wont get psychosis like OPs friend if you start out slowly with milder strains to see how you react.

Even if you do react well smoking dabs all day everyday probably increases your chance of future problems so just avoid that and youll have a great time.

holy shit yeah i dont think ive ever seen anything so UK typed out on Yea Forums in my life, it was like going outside...

> Thanks for sharing your insights. This was helpful thank you!

we are anonymous. anonymous has a spiritual side her name is yotsuba

you are retarded

its like we speak in tongues
but our tongues are filled with brill information if you can learn it

psychiatry will lose this time

inhousepharmacie op

Thank you, I agree that weed is great and it is helpful in my life but at the same time it does cause dependence and psychosis but its manageable for me and I can tell when its occurring and can scale back or cut off.

This This This This

if i can save just one it'll begin. cause that means the rest can be saved too

its well known that cannabis can cause psychosis.

i have met people that have suffered in this way.

weed aint always a nice thing, and these events are not rare.

you have to save him with friendship bond it can become stronger than love in a marriage

they are in fact, pretty fucking rare.

cannibus does not cause psychosis dumb fuc

Enjoy, in any case, weed is far more fun if you abstain regularly.

I hope your friend gets better, he will need support if he ends up in a position where he has to take any stronger antipsyches for a time, it will be rough but spend as much time as possible getting him out and about exercising ect. They are pretty fucking sedating.

the same thing happened to my brother, it's a kind of depersonalization


It improved after several days

wut?

Oh boy. Since the last time LSD i think im in a world created by a higher beeing. In this world everything is fake. And the reason for existence is for me to realize im all that is and ever will. Im on my way to the understanding of the absolut singularity. Im no More than PC Programm.

Hes communicating to me in the Form of Songs. Since this beeing lives outside oft the realm of my existence. Hes not bound to the idea oft time. Songs that were made 20 years ago could just be made for one Situation in my everyday life.

First time i was tripping a thought came to my mind that everything could just be a generated Matrix. Then i realized it. And i was in shock. We mostly just listening to yt generated Algorithm so pretty mich any song could come up.
I was linke "no that cant be it, this cant be real" and the song playing was "wake me up" From evanessence.
Cont.?

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it can trigger latent psychosis, and nobody knows if they're vulnerable to latent psychosis or not

it's like 1% which is somewhat rare but not terribly

theres no such thing as psychosis dumb fuc

well said

Yes it does.
Or to be correct, it CAN and is likely to. Not that is causes psychosis in every inhaler ofc.

no such thing

holy fuck why do people larp that drug psychosis is some beautiful and romantic shit?

nah fam, you end up with your dick out on the bus thinking your math teacher is following you

its not 'cool' weird, its just weird fucking weird

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lel XD

thats false information

schizophrenia
he was prone to it but the cannabis probably uncovered it like pretty much any drug would

Yea Forums used to be better than this

no fucking such thing

trips confirm

>no fucking such thing

wuh?

>smokes weed
>gets high for 6 hours
>goes to hospital

>cannibus does not cause psychosis dumb fuc
You're right. Cannabis can tho.

Your weed can be mixed or sprayed with various other drugs such as lsd or dmt or even heroin. First time ive smoked i felt nothing, a lot of my friend had the same experience as me. He was probably pretending or he has a realyyyyyy low tolerance and your weed was mixed with lsd or dmt. He might have some psihological problems such as paranoia or schisofrenia. But i am pretty sure he was overreacting and his weed was mixed with something.

Your psychosis sure has a shitty soundtrack!

rofl

there are dangers to taking hallucinogens, anything that fucks with your brain chemistry in fact.

cannibis isnt bad compared to LSD but it still has an effect and the risk is still there

weed advocates will present as many different scenarios as they can to escape the fact that adverse events are well documented with unlaced drugs and no pre existing medical conditions

You can always spot the person bullshitting about having taken hallucinogens when they talk about 'pink elephants' and 'pixies' and shit. As you say, its just really really weird.

He's begun his journey, mate. It's impossible to describe to people who haven't experienced it, makes you not really want to either. But at the same time, this reality is so far from normal people's imagination that it doesn't really matter. Seems like he's only begun to touch a sliver of the matter though, he'll forget it pretty soon.

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Sry for autocorrect. Linke=thinking
Other time there was the same shit. Same Situation. I tried to break the loop and to just do something different to distract myself. So i turned in my Xbox and played some cod and listened to spotify. I was listening to the "Burnout revenge Soundtrack playlist" bcuz it was something different.
First song was bloc Party - helicopter.
First off everything was "OK". Then the lyrics went " some things will never be different" . i sat there paralyzed. Before i could stop the song the lyrics went on "some things will never be different(short Pause) stop me!" as i stopped i realized the song already knew i was going to.. Since then i hear allusions to my Theorie in every song

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speaking strictly from a clinical/scientific perspective, what your friend experienced could only be classified as a drug induced psychotic episode. this can traumatic as the person will not be able to meaningfully integrate their experience into their normal reality paradigm. therefore, it's possible this experience could cause lasting effects similar to dissociative disorders or PTSD. it's likely any future drug use is going to have a different feel than it did before this experience, and may lead to similar feelings associated with this breakthrough experience.

on a subjective level, what happened is that your friend pierced the viel. drugs like THC and psychedelics that have effects on the ego, which are processed and perceived as spiritual effects or effects on the world. think of the ego being a container of personal spirit floating in an ocean of universal spirit. because your brain is always involved in the perception of the outside world, part of your self is always seen from what you experience outside of you. this is why when you take ego-changing drugs, you feel immediate distortions within your perception of yourself, and you perceive distortions in the objects in the world. it's one and the same effect.
from an eastern religious perspective, the container of ego is purely illusory, false, and by understanding this, one's personal spirit can attain union with the universal spirit as the ego becomes transparent.
from the judeo-christian perspective, the self is a container, compsed of the outer flesh and the inward personal spirit. the container itself, ego is the primary stumbling block between one's personal spirit and the universal spirit, who's agency and will is manifested in the figure of the God of Abraham. all of judeo-christian ethical ritual and mandates are designed to make the self humble before God, submitting the container and the inward spirit to the universal spirit.
your friend could benefit from spiritual counsel / trauma therapy

I know i'm taking the b8 here but just incase anyone didn't know.

Drug dealers arn't going to waste money giving you free drugs 'sprayed on your weed'.

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ridin through this world DUN DUN DUNNN all alone

if we save him the world has to fight psychaitry next. yotsuba says so

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