Transwomen are real women

R they fuck

transwomen are just faggots playing dress up.
Stop your woe is me bullshit and realise you are gay.
Then maybe you can make a contribution to society instead of leeching from it.

>But you are wrong.
You are entitled to say that. But you are wrong

so mental health is about rights. ok....

>>But you are wrong.
>You are entitled to say that. But you are wrong

You are entitled to say that and you are right.

Scientifically speaking he is not wrong. If you are born male you stay male, no matter how much hormones/drugs you put in your body and no matter how much surgery you have to alter your form.
You're still a man at the core of your being.
Deal with it.

lol nah

>and you are right.
thank you

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>inb4 incels get triggered
>nvm too late

Wien it doesn't bleed once a month it isn't a women

Trans women are men still, sorry. Ill gladly cal them whatever they would like though.

This nonsense is an abuse of reason and anyone proclaiming such bullshit should be executed.

no they arent

>wanting to indoctrinate the world into believing you are right and that you can be whatever your delusional ass wants to be even if every evidence proves you wrong.

Yup, that's a cult

Gender isn't the same thing as sex

so 50yo women are not female...

>> That babbling homeless man who believes he's Napoleon is really Napoleon

>Ill gladly cal them whatever they would like though.
>Trans women are men still, sorry.
pls make up your mind.

You should be able to be whatever you want to be, why is that a bad thing? I don't even know any trans people but it seems like everyone who is anti trans is just angry.

Sex is a real, biological category. 'Gender' is made up woo-woo bullshit .

Reversing the argument, yeah that doesn't work

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>i'd rather murder someone then accept their little quirks that don't affect me.

>Infertile people with vaginas
>Older people with vaginas
>Trans men (female to male) have vaginas and don't bleed after hormones
You're literally retarded

>evidence

See

If you decide to rename yourself Ja'Quan, I'll call you that as a courtesy - even though I'll think you're retarded.

It is though. Just because you want dicks in your ass doesn't make you a girl, it makes you a faggot, which is fine in its own right but don't go and pretend you're anything else than a male faggot

A real pain in my ass if you know what I mean

>everyone who is anti trans is just angry.
closet homo's really, they are afraid of their secret urges. that's why they fight this so hard.

>If I don't like it, it isn't real

>Hurr you can b anything u want
That's not transsexual, moron. Being trans means you have an intrinsic feeling that your biological sex is wrong and you're imprisoned in a man's or woman's body, so you seek to alter it. If you're trying to argue against any of this at least know what the fuck you're talking about.

user, you can't just 'be' whatever you'd like. I'd like to be tall and handsome, but I can no more choose to be that than a delusional homosexual can choose to be a woman.

If they where a male before no

quoting the wrong post is also retarded

that is not how biology works

I would use the tranny's preferred pronouns especially at work due to discrimination rules.

However, this does not mean I think a transwoman is a real woman even if i call a he a "she". I'll let the tranny freaks have the pronoun win.

I didn't quote the wrong post.

youtu.be/JdnBV-S-RXk

True that

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so you kinda accept it.
might as well start sucking their feminine penile.

This is only true if you consider them human

Nope, to both OP's lying pic and his lying post.

Trans people are not hurting anybody.

No man is a machine and can 'do' nothing.
To 'do' one must 'be'.
And besides all that enlightenment mumbo jumbo... You can Only Be what you are, literally that's what being is, it's just what is.
You Can Want Anything to be anything,
But everything just be what is.

Sex is based on measurable, observable characteristics. Gender isn't. The former is a universally-recognized scientific concept, the latter was cooked up by deranged soft 'sciences' types during the 1970s.

Human rights are human rights.
We're all human.
Yep
There was a time you could pretend to be whatever you wanted to be. That time ended when you hit adulthood.
Absolutely correct.

The fact that trannies unironically call their penis a "girldick" shows they're fucking retarded.

You're shifting goalposts, pal.

You can wear a dress and take a dick in the ass, but I won't validate your delusion. The mentally ill should not be coddled, but I'm in favor of leaving them alone provided they're non-violent.

If Transwoman = Woman. Then they dont deserve rights either.

Hmmm...So he was behind that...?

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Literally all of science and daily life disagrees with you but ok

Except the truth.
Men can wear dresses and make up and talk in a camp manner. Whatever.
But a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

>Trans right are human rights
Correct because Trans people are human

>Transwomen are real women
Incorrect. Men cannot become women for they lack the necessary criteria that defines a woman. Just like....I cannot logically call myself a cat just because I want to be a cat and make efforts to physical change myself into a cat.

So what about schizophrenia? It's measureable as it is only a product of someones mind (i.e. how do you know if he is really schizophrenic and isn't just playing an insane person).

Does that mean schizophrenia isn't real either?

How about any other psychological phenomenon. They are by definition not measurable (as they are all made up by the brain). Should we dismiss the whole field of psychology because it is not measurable?

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holy shit since when did b become such a shithole? has tumblr sent over all their fucking reddit tier trolls to plague these boards? i havent seen one decent conversation this morning and its actually concerning me

>There was a time you could pretend to be whatever you wanted to be. That time ended when you hit adulthood.
That's really depressing and not true.

openly homo my dude, I like the cute traps and trannies and want to fuck them. This ain't about repressed faggotry, chief.

respect and acceptance is something earned and grown over time. If you come up to me aggressively dictating me to call you a she, you can fuck right off my sight with that shit.

but if you present yourself as a decent human being i'll happily call you a she or a he depending on which you want to be called, and nothing in between.

Autism is a spectrum, not gender. Get your mental illnesses straight....or gay, whatever floats your hormone shock induced flaccid penis

That's not who science sides with.

>> all of science and daily life

Lol no.

Tell you what, I'll give you a chance to show me a procedure for objectively determining someone's gender. If you can't do that, it's not science - it's woo.

Fuckin kek and nice dubs

You are wrong.
Gender is the same thing as sex.
But sex also means copulation.
That's why there is 2 words.
Thinking I am anything, in itself is a joke.
Y'all brain damaged from cooked food see, hormones all outta whack, same like modern medicine, trying to treat symptoms of sickness instead of cause.
If you, the light divine, the animator, were truly present in this body, you will see clearly and hear soundly the truth is the truth.

besides themselves...at a 40% rate apparently.

oh and contributing to the recent chaos of culture.

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Science is an inner understanding, not a fucking God. Idiot.

guess I'll bite: NO
Women come from growing up as girls, in a world where they are sexualized from very young. In which they have to learn how to be a women through the onset of menstruation putting them in a very vulnerable state, at a tender age. A state in which they have to fight the discomfort and pain against the sex drive, turning most women into sluts. Or they fight it enough to maintain some shred of decency. They got raised in a world which consistently puts them in the victim chair, of sexual assault, and how they deal with this determines what kind of women they become.
Turning a sexual predator into what looks like a women, does not make a women, hell it will never know menstruation, or be able to carry a child. It is no better than a sex doll

A great many psychological phenomena are indirectly measurable (see the Weber-Fechner Law).

Transsexualism is indeed a psychological condition, and not essentially different from Schizophrenia. They're both psychiatric conditions which ought to be treated.

KeK'ed

Treated by fruit detox and loving kindness

So let's talk language. When to use the word women? It's quite simple, the main function of language is to understand each other.

If Im at a restaurant with a trans women, who looks like a women (i.e. looks more like a women than like a man) and the server asks what table we need. Do I say a tish for me and that women, or a tish for me and this man?
If I say a tish for me and that man i am biologically correct by pointing out the sex, but the server doesn't see a man (because from the looks he thinks the trans is a women) and therefore they usage of women has failed to perform the single task language is made for.

If i call her a women, I might not refrence the biological sex, but everyone knows who I mean, and language fullfills it's duty of communicating.

Language has no "provable" truth. everyone associates something with a word, so we should use words that resemble what we are experiencing, not what is correct after some arbitrary metric you just made up for this specific purpose.

WTF anyone who wants anal is wrong, it is degenerate

it was 45% two years ago, it's improving.

Sea lions are lions! If they were, they wouldn't require the prefix/adjective.

I hope you're joking about the fruit detox. I can't believe this dumb hippie shit is so widespread.

Stop coddling the mentally ill. You aren't doing them, or yourself any favors. Psychological dishonesty is not a virtue.

Womb and man, woman
Human, hue and man, rainbow beings

So what is it? Made up woo-woo or a real medical condition (if it needs to be treated is another discussion).

Either it's real or not, can't be both only when it's convinient

nice bait, Schlomo

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How is what I said contraversy? Anybody should be able to do whatever the want as long as they're not hurting anybody else. Trans people don't hurt anybody. The only people offended by trans people are those who won't call someone a different name and pronoun. It takes zero effort.

I could have phrased this less ambiguously.

It's a genuine mental illness, yes. But 'transwomen' are no more women than schizophrenics are Napoleon.

Fucking idiot.
Fruit is the neuron level of food.
Human is the thinking animal
The thin king and I am all.
Wake the fuck up, God.get that fruit in,
Get your stupid ugly shitheadness out.
And be the wonderful ball of light you are.
You spastic shadow ridden monkey nut.

show me who the fuck this "science" is

You're either an IQ 120+ troll, or an IQ 90- hippie.

pretty simple, conservacucks like freedom of speech and expression only when they like to shout out thinks like hitler did nothing wrong, but if someone calls himself a women who they don't consider a women, his speech should be supressed, as well as for everyone who disagrees with them

No...

This is a clever troll, because it starts with a valid point about rights and pivots into an invalid point about biological reality. You're not female. You're never going to be. You can have your penis inverted and get laser hair removal and take hormones until you grow tits, but you're never gonna reshape your pelvis or get rid of that Y chromosome. You're never gonna menstruate or give birth. And you're never going to be as physically weak as an actual woman the same height and weight as you.

The technology will exist one day, but we're not there yet and pretending otherwise is just delusion.

Do you humor the homeless man's belief that he is Napoleon Bonaparte?

I'm a trans woman (right). I love being dominated. If you can find me ill suck your dick, toes, asshole, anything really. I live in bayfield colorado, just looking to fuck, ill fuck ANYONE. i have a poop fetish

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They're killing themselves because people are shitty to them or killing them

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That doesn't matter. If the schizophrenic in the asylum calls himself napoleon, sure the nurses and the other inmates will also start calling him napoleon, because it eases communication.

So If trans people are real (i.e. people who genuenly consider themself another gender than their measurable sex), they have the right to call themselfs women or man, as they please. (I mean this shouldn't even be controvesial, it's basic freedom of speech)

And if they dress like women, call themself a women, and act like women, we should call them women, because it eases communication.

For example we also call the netherlands Holland, even so for most of the Netherlands this is factually wrong (only 2 states are called Holland), but we can still call it that way, because it eases communication. The whole purpose of language is to be understood, so discriminating after some arbitrary biological fact doesn't make any sense.

people are shitty to other people all the time. I was bullied throughout high-school, i'm still alive today.

i'd hit that.

that's the suicide rate retard. you don't kill yourself because someone killed you.

Why do you come here to try and convince a bunch of incels of anything? I'm almost convinced you're a /pol/ tard because you can get pro trans discussion on /lgbt/ but you just shit up this board.

Some people who are bullied do kill themselves.

The wikipedia definition for "woman" is a female human being.
The definition for "female" is a creature that produces egg cells.

Do you produce egg cells? No? Then you are not a woman.

Hell yeah

Trans rights. Trans men are real men and trans women are real women.

If you think otherwise you are a massive retard

One of two things is true.

A. Either "real" women are those who have XY chromosomes and working female sex organs, in which case transwomen are clearly not "real" women. Or

B. "Real" in this case means something else, in which case "Transwomen are real women" is just a meaningless feel-good turn of phrase.

i think that you tried to say "mental disorder"

> If the schizophrenic in the asylum calls himself napoleon, sure the nurses and the other inmates will also start calling him napoleon, because it eases communication.

That's not scizophrenia... that's an identity disorder.
And he'll still be recognised as mentally ill, properly medicated and treated in a way to attempt to bring his delusion under control.
He would also only be referred to as Napoleon to keep him quiet and non-violent. Staff would probably be instructed to NOT call him Napoleon unless he starts to exhibit agitation, and then it would be to calm him just long enough to disengage.

Source: 10 years psych nurse specializing in behaviours of concern.

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You are pulling a Red Herring. I was not talking about language. I was talking about definitions. A woman is defined to be a human with no Y chromosomes. If you have a Y chromosome, you are defined to be male.

You may refer to something using language but it does not change definitions. Mistaking a male for a female at a restaurant does not change that fact that the he has Y chromosomes.

If I write 2+7=9, but my 7 looks like a 1... just because the 7 looks like a 1 doesn't mean it's a 1. If you trying to pretend it's a 1 you're going to have problems and any application you are using. Like wise, if a guy thinks you're a girl and finds out later you really aren't, there are going to be problem. Looking like a female is not the same as actually being a female.

no such thing as "real women"
there are cis women and and trans women
both are women but different in being cis or trans
"real women" implies there's "unreal women"
and what's an "unreal" one supposed to be? supernatural and in the outside realm of the existing? why bother indirect mentioning something that's non existent?

>be right wing
>be mentally ill
>don't know what mentally ill means
>use it as a slur
>insult myself
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_political_orientation

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no such thing as "real dolphins"
there are cis dolphins and and trans dolphins
both are dolphins but different in being cis or trans
"real dolphins" implies there's "unreal dolphins"
and what's an "unreal" one supposed to be? supernatural and in the outside realm of the existing? why bother indirect mentioning something that's non existent?

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I agree until a tranny enters a sport and starts beating the natural born women. This shouldnt be allowed

What was the plan here? Like do you expect to convince people and change minds with two slogans?

Doesn't necessarily suggest that there are unreal women. The existence of real women could equally suggest the existence of fake women.

Which is the point.

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no, they are men with serious mental issues

Being trans is the full onset mental illness/severe disillusionment of being a special snowflake who likes to get fucked in his man holster. This faggot has a schizophrenic delusion where he is utterly convinced he has XX female chromosomes regardless of the XY male chromosomes that his body is hardwired with.

He may change his physical appearance and cut his cock off but he will always be XY male.

Only the mentally ill argue otherwise.

Chomp another Tide pod, precious snowflake.

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