I know this type of question belongs in /x/, but i just want to know what Yea Forums thinks

>It would be pretty hard to refute the evidence that ghosts exist. Think about all the ghost programs on tv

holy shit. the people that just swallow this shit down without questions really exist.

C'mon now.

I'm 1000 percent sure that you can go to one of these paranormal locations and experience something yourself.

Ask around town, do some online research about some haunted locations in your city.

Do you not bother because you are too afraid of the possibility of spirits being real?

>There aren't any ghosts, user.
says skeptics until they have a personal experience.

well that's great but in the world of science we have a very hard rule about personal experiences being 100% irrelevant

every person in the world has a camera on them at all times now and no ghost activity has ever been recorded

i believe ghosts are something you seem to recognize more when you dive deeper into the subject, just like music, art, cars, or how houses are/were built. i dont believe you can find them through the gadgets that are built today. maybe with analog/film, but nothing digital. ghosts are something to tune into.

not that user but why and how are personal experiences irrelevant?

I've heard plenty of people say that there is a ghost in my grandmother's home, Serious stories that made me think maybe ghosts are real. Whenever I go over there, nothing. I think fear is what causes people to believe in them. Thanks to movies and shit. I'd definitely check out a "haunted area" out of curiosity I'll look into it.

ghosts would have to be able to keep up with a planet spinning 1000 mph, and moving 100,000 kph around the center of the galaxy, in a galaxy that's probably moving millions of mph through space, in fact, faster than the speed of light on some level as space expands. how do ghosts stay in the room? one second later and we're a far away in who knows what direction.

>why and how are personal experiences irrelevant?

I am not honestly gonna sit here and explain elementary school science to you. The foundation of all science is empirical evidence. look up that term.

>no ghost activity has ever been recorded
Are you kidding me? There are tons of videos on youtube and television programs supposedly capturing paranormal occurrences. of course some of them are staged but all of them cant be fake.

are all these people just doing it for the heck of it?

>of course some of them are staged but all of them cant be fake.
Well except yeah they are

You understand those TV shows are just fabricated to turn a profit, right? You can't honestly be stupid enough to believe these TV crews are going out and recording disembodied voices and cans rolling around 100% of every time?

You can't honestly believe the TV shows are real, right? You can't......

Do you use dip/snuff just curious

schizophrenia is common. believing in communication or imagining things that aren't there is common. this is usually a phase you go through in your early 20s. it's stupid. later, you pick up on real signals and vibes from people and start to understand them. once i was actually able to "steal" the correct answer to an exam from a professor by asking about an incorrect answer and sensing that he didn't like what he was hearing.

schizo is child's play. learn to psychic. ghosts are stupid.

i like this. where do i start to "psychic"

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>once i was actually able to "steal" the correct answer to an exam from a professor by asking about an incorrect answer and sensing that he didn't like what he was hearing.

I like you

then what about the flower of life? there's multiple studies there showing real people talking with some sort of essence that isn't naturally human.

All knowledge comes from experience.

what about the flower of life? I don't even know what that is

>there's multiple studies there showing real people talking with some sort of essence that isn't naturally human.
No, there aren't.

No, i don't use tobacco.

So you think all the locations that these paranormal teams investigate are just completely fabricated for money?

Keep in mind that these are REAL locations that are being investigated. Locations that you can go to.

But naah, we all know that everyone that is involved with the paranormal is in on this great big prank.

Someone kill themselves and haunt us. Only then will we know it's real.

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>So you think all the locations that these paranormal teams investigate are just completely fabricated for money?

Yes, of course. You think they're producing 15 different ghost TV shows to educate you about ghosts? Are you that naive to how the world works?

>Keep in mind that these are REAL locations that are being investigated. Locations that you can go to.

And? Why do you think that matters in any way?

It just blows my mind completely that there are people who don't/aren't capable of thinking scientifically, and believe things because it was on a TV show.

If you believe things because you saw a TV show, anyone could just take over your life and make you believe anything. You aren't an independently thinking, sentient organism.

I'd definitely record some shit for money. Wouldn't you?

read the book online for free, google it.
but you probably won't, since your devotion and faith in science is probably strong

Yeahh! Elon...you was all time!

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>but you probably won't

You're right, I won't read ascientific gibberish written by middle aged women with schizophrenia. Where are the studies you referenced by the way? :)

Just as anyone can make a TV show about anything, anyone can write anything. You have to understand that it simply *doesn't matter*

Without empirical evidence there is no science, and without science there should be no belief, or you are a rote animal-- undifferent from livestock.

i never said i watched the tv shows. i told you to read the flower of life, online for free. which you said you won't read. im sorry you think you're better than religious people but you are just the same as them. blindly following facts and numbers by people you've never met. have a good day

There are multiple Youtube channels with nothing to gain dedicated to the research of the paranormal. and some of the Youtubers rarely upload.

Research of the paranormal goes further that just TV programs, bud.

>SCIENCE IS JUST BLIND FOLLOWIN' TOO

except the entire point of it is that it is not.

you aren't religious, you're wrapped up in cult-like shit. you are probably an obese woman over thirty.

wow yet none of them can produce one single bit of reproducable evidence toward the "research" they are trying to do right :)

Money isn't all there is to life.

It's the discovery of something new that counts.

Energy can not be created or destroyed. Only transferred. So life energy must go on after death. I think we move on past this plane of existence. When we die here there is nothing left for us here. We must move on.

The problem with your argument is, you can absolutely prove numbers. You cannot prove metaphysical things, such as God. Which sucks. I want to believe in God but my brain wont let me believe because a book or my daddy says so.

>life energy

demonstrate the existence of life energy

God is the original creative energy of the universe. Your dads or a books image of what God is need not deter you from believing. Seek in your own free will and you will find. You are created of the energy. The truth lies within not from someone else.

Breath. Speak. There is your demonstration.

Tell me one thing (passion) you could do that doesnt require money. Money is life. Whether you like it or not.

so if I put an air pump in a cloth sack and then push down on the sack to push the air out, I have created life energy?

A radio has life energy? what about a parrot?

being a nomad

Okay. That all sounds nice. Now prove it.

Capturing class A evidence of the paranormal isn't something that happens everyday. It takes time, effort and patience to actually capture something good.

You're acting as if the spirits are completely solid physical beings that jump in front of the camera all day asking to be documented.

But you can't argue with someone who doesn't want to take into consideration the mounds of evidence there already is.

what do you do for a living?

Money is only a physical object of potential energy. Doesn’t take money to swim, run, enjoy nature.

>But you can't argue with someone who doesn't want to take into consideration the mounds of evidence there already is.

what evidence?

Well why aren't you a nomad then? Since money isnt important

Depends on how much crack I've smoked today.

who says im not

Yes true. But more than likely you'll need to spend money for to do these things, whether it be to drive your car, take the bus, buy swimwear.

I have proven this for myself. And God gave me exactly what it took for me to believe. Pray or meditate to the spirit of Truth and he will give you just what you need. I suggest you read about Abraham. Good starting point for you.

I'm a tax accountant.

Because you're on this fucking site / application

Go look up some local paranormal locations in your town are city. I can sit here and tell you about all types of paranormal encounters that i have read online, but that's nothing compared to your own personal experience.

Do you mean Abraham the fucker that said its holy to cut off or "excess" penis skin. Hes literally the biggest troll of all time. We were circumcised for nothing. Especially if God made us in his image.

what evidence?

user we've been over this. A person saying something is not evidence. A person writing or making a recording of a sound or anything like that is not evidence.

You say "all the evidence" and you provide 0 pieces of evidence. Why do people experience ghostly phenomenon yet with 99% cellphone saturation nobody can make a single real recording? why has nothing ever been recorded by two people simutlaneously from different angles?

Okay check this out. There is this dude, we powered him up by injecting him with stuff, his name is Captain America. I saw it in a movie

He fought in WW2 but then he got frozen, he came back and now he fights in modern day. Some aliens almost took over New york but he saved us. I saw it.

Do you understand? It doesn't matter if someone says something user. It's not evidence.

>Do you think our dead relatives sometimes sit or stand around us?
Fuck, I hope not. That would be really embarrassing.

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>A person writing or making a recording of a sound or anything like that is not evidence.

THAT'S THE POINT. Didn't i just say in my previous post to look up some paranormal locations in your city and go to them.

No matter how much written testimony or Youtube video links i try to give you, i wont be able to convince you of the existence of ghosts. I fully understand that. Try to seek a personal experience of your own, and maybe then you can make up your mind.

Or just keep believing what you believe, its your call.

>Didn't i just say in my previous post to look up some paranormal locations in your city and go to them.

this DOESN'T PRODUCE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE

you don't seem to understand the point

ps-- I have done this, fucking years ago, tens of times!! abandoned hospitals, morgues and shit! fuck you! you've probably been nowhere like where I have. Guess what, NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS BECAUSE GHOSTS DONT EXIST, LOL.

Not him but I've had a a few near-death experiences. Never once felt anything like ghosts, highly doubt they're real. Even went on a ghost hunting expedition, waste of fucking money.

>you paid money to go on a "ghost hunting expedition"

I am suddenly realizing there's a different line of work I need to be in...People like the guy arguing in this thread are just pure suckers for this shit. Have a guy rattle around a soda can and this guy would shit his pants.

When a person dies. There is a small amount of unaccounted-for matter that is lost. It has been documented but not explained.

Wait a minute now.

So you mean to tell me.......out of all those paranormal locations you've investigated, nothing happened at all?

Well, i'm not gonna doubt your own personal experiences user, if you say you didn't experience anything then so be it. I wasn't there so i cant say what actually took place.

If you have actually been to multiple haunted locations and never experienced a thing, then you may have been investigating the wrong locations man. Either that or you are having some serious self doubt.

Imagine all the times your loving relatives have watched you jerk off to the sick shit your dick gets hard to!

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I was in a bar with some friends. We had a good amount to drink, went into some paranormal tours business office and asked if we could pay now or had to make an appointment. Got the last tickets for the tour later that night, had to wait 4 hours for it. Was exactly what we expected. Fucking nothing in supposed buildings with massive amounts of ghost activity.

Imagine the awkward conversations in the afterlife about what was seen

Been a while since I've seen cracky chan

what about when your jerking off dude

Fuck

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Bumping the 1st interesting thread in months. Reading this shit when I get home

Ghost Hitler is watching you fap.

no. that's about as stupid as it gets. dead is dead. who did you just have die that you are thinking this?

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No one, it was just a thought

If that´s true, I must be surrounded by a lot of dead relatives, who would watch in horror how I furiously masturbate 3-4 times a day to a variety of porn no suitable for common tastes.

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Yes

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>When a person dies. There is a small amount of unaccounted-for matter that is lost. It has been documented but not explained.

Nope, this is from a book. There's no basis in reality.

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Same way we do, user, just the ghost version.
fucking duh

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Would your habit change if you were able to see them

For money dude. I'm guessing ur under 18 cuz you sound like a bag of rocks

Interesting. And what makes u believe this

You cant don't just start showering in money as soon as you go into this field user. Things like this take YEARS of research and experience

>Things like this take YEARS of research and experience

user...The results they're coming up with are fake. Fabricated. There's not anything to learn. There's no research or experience necessary.

you go to a place with a night vision camera. You have a person off camera move a thing or make a sound. You superimpose the sound of a voice at a predetermined time where everyone's cell phone buzzes in their pocket so they all start turning to each other and going "what is that??"

Didn't you understand my example about Captain America?

>If it was provable the scientific community would have discovered and accepted it by now

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to be true, no; my hopes would fall on them deciding NOT visiting me and watching me fap.

I’m definitely on the skeptical side. I know there’s no physical way that ghosts can exist. That being said, the house I’m renting has been known to lock doors by itself. I’ve seen this multiple times first hand on different doors. I’d like to know why it happens.

Ohhhhhh I think i ACTUALLY get it now! YAY!

So every last individual in the past decade that has had anything to do with paranormal research has been faking it to make HUGE amouts of cash right?

That's why EVERYONE chooses to be a paranormal investigator once they get out into the real world, that's where the real money is.

Man, i would have never guessed it. Thanks Mr.Right

Yeah, you tell 'em!

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Finally got it.
/thread

lol like how the male/female wage gap is real and since in big business it's all about that bottom line thus companies overwhelmingly hire women

What an underwhelming thread. I am disappoint

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>So every last individual in the past decade that has had anything to do with paranormal research has been faking it to make HUGE amouts of cash right?
That is the intent, cash or fame, groupies, etc, yes.

>That's why EVERYONE chooses to be a paranormal investigator once they get out into the real world, that's where the real money is.
Sorry, but that doesn't logically follow. Nobody said this except you.

There's nothing to "paranormally investigate" dude. There's no research. Nothing scientific is done. there's no analysis.

It really grieves me that people like this exist. I'm not morally void enough to take advantage of people like you to make my living and it seems like it would be so simple

the extra sad part is that you're too afraid to post a video of something you think is real, because you know it'll be blown apart or the "investigator" will have already been exposed as a fraud

Ghosts are echoes, almost like recorded holograms. Any interaction is imagined. Any questions?

Damn with all those rapid fire logic bullets , it might be too much to take

>That is the intent, cash or fame, groupies, etc, yes.

Of course. We all know those paranormal investigators are all swimming in wealth

you horrible cunt

Go to a haunted location yourself.

We'll see how much of the activity is just "imagination".

Awwww shiiiiet, there’s going to be some awkward as fuck talks when I die

it’s all 8mag8nation

People have.

you don't seem to understand sir that there is the potential to make *some* money, or get *some* fame,

WITHOUT DOING ANY WORK OR EXPENDING ANY EFFORT.

I kind of felt sorry for you for a while, but now you're just tiresome. You are very stupid and probably a little kid. Good luck in 2030 economy junior.

Ghost or familiar spirits are a lie they're actually demons trying to get at you

You're fucking retarded, you know that? My post was so short, and you still fucked up reading it. Kys.

You actually are insane if you believe that money and fame is always the motive behind paranormal research.

Of course you end up getting money and fame eventually, but there are some people who start out wanting to actually now the truth.

Ghosts are real they made a call of duty about it idiots lmao

Just because someone has honest intentions it doesn't make ghosts real.....the fuck.

This guys a troll. Read the thread. Arrogant and stupid

yeah, they wanna know the truth, that's why they make tv shows or put up monetized tv videos that include very obvious fabricated events or sounds or whatever.

im going to be very direct with you kid..pick up a book..start caring about science...start caring about being an intelligent person..the future for you is looking like retail or food service or something and you dont want that to be your only possibility in life

>Just because someone has honest intentions it doesn't make ghosts real
The investigators don't force you to believe in ghosts user, that's their own opinion.

Ghosts r actually actually aliens try’ g probe tender anus

You can't prove that the events aren't fabricated either, can you?

Think before you type dude, you sound like the kid and that's very apparent

>You can't prove that the events aren't fabricated either, can you?

Negatives results don't have to be proven, positives do

Lol kys

fucking kek

I have never witnessed such a serious case of internal self doubt in my entire life.

But despite that, I wish you well. I have no hate towards you, and thanks for the chat.

He's trolling dude lol this hasn't been a paranormal discussion thread at all. Just one man's ghostly propaganda

Sure you have, just look inward. Instead of both sides comparing dicks about who's right or wrong, how about an actual discussion?