EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE

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>implying its a conspiracy of one

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>not answering the question

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Sweden? Norway? Finland? Netherlands?

Don't forget Denmark! The happiest place on earth!

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You don't know anything about their economies you cunt

because this is Yea Forums and its filled with cancer

>this retarded

Those countries not only sliding down the shitbowl, they have no obligations to spend on their military (thanks to retarded US), they build their wealth off of capitalism, and OH YEAH, they all say they aren't socialist. Hmmmm...

the problem with that narrative is that even if true, the fact that countries like the soviet union tried to play the same intervenionist / conspiratorial game yet ultimately lost the conflict seems to prove that capitalism is just ultimately more successful, even at arguably immoral projects - it just has more economic oomph

>unironically thinking countries with higher economic freedoms than the U.S. are socialist.

Not one of these nations are socialist. However, here is one...

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>socialized medicine
>free university
zomgwtfbbq eebil soshulizm

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so retarded

Norwegian here, SSB (sentral statistical bureau) warned that our socialistic structure will collapse in a few decades if we can't get more of the immigrants here to work.

why are you all so impotent?

literally none of these countries are socialist nations retard

and nobody is proposing true socialism in the USA. That's kind of the point.

Speaking of retarded...

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AOC did

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The Soviet Union was literally founded by peasants and they blew past America's progress like it was nothing. By all rights it should never have existed at all. America has been under the thumb of "experts" and "elites" since its founding and has pretty much always been a fucking trainwreck except during one small decade in which a bunch of boomers grew up that was due to semi-socialist policies in reaction to the rich destroying the economy via the great depression.

no she did not

Oh hi Ivan how’s Russian weather today

>out of context cherry picking
she meant tax the rich more you shill.

Are you referring to low birth rates? People have a tendency to "hold it" during times of great uncertainty. What is causing the uncertainty?

it's windy as fuck here in central Ohio

confirmed impotent

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To be clear: it's not that we need more immigrants, but that the ones who are already here needs to start working.

>kill the middle class too

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nigga you retarded

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because you're all too impotent to breed

>taxing the rich kills the middle class
man even the guy who came up with trickle down economics has acknowledged it is total bullshit

Norwegians don't have your cattle mentality.

aoc will raise taxes on the middle class too.

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not everything, just stuff that's affordable and which otherwise makes it impossible to transcend class determinism

your time's up, trust fund kid. once college and healthcare is free, mediocre people like you will no longer get to climb the social ladder just because they've had everything handed to them.

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yes but it will incur a significantly smaller expense than college loans and medical insurance :^)

that's the lie the rich are peddling to try to sink her. And if she raises my taxes 5% and the rich fuckers by 25%, I'll take that.

She is sinking herself homie

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not really a reply to what i said, but ok: the SU was NOT founded by peasants, but i get what you mean, and it's partially true: the economic record of the early SU is remarkable (if one were only to look at the rate of industrialisation and military modernisation; famines and general scarcity of consumer goods tell another story). but it ended, because it wasn't sustainable. china understood this and transitioned to something much closer to capitalism, which is why they're still improving, something the old eastern block (i was born there) stopped doing around the 70s

I like these threads. Fuck Bernie, fuck AOC

*unaffordable

not even a little. you guys are OBSESSED with her. That tells me she's winning "homie"

Fuck off republitard

>remove taxes for working class
>raise taxes on rich by a bit
Now who will cover the rest of the gibs and ubi and healthcare and immigration and medicine and state issued cares and the publicly owned airline and the war in Palestine and free college and state schooling and government gun grabs and the green new deal? Tax dollars need to pay for all that

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how rich is daddy?

Rent in your head certainly is.

I cannot WAIT for this rematch. So many proudboy tears

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>implying earning a wage is something to be ashamed of
she won, get over it

Question for fellow american:
I heard from a friend of mine that everything regarding health care is fucking expensive. For example, it costs 3000$ alone for giving birth to a child in a hospital. So why do you oppose health care? (I am not talking about free health care, since I am aware that it is impossible, I am talking about it in general)

yeah, pay for it by raising taxes on the rich back to where they were in the Eisenhower days

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Good. Fuck the middle class. Literally the worst sacks of shit alive.

but she isn't going to run no matter how badly you want her to

Why do you get so triggered when I make fun of this bitch

And the middle class

>implying Amazon was going to pay any taxes
you should pay attention to AMERICAN news there Dimitri

>he wants all women to have access to free dyke feminist brainwashing

Kys

how rich is daddy?

Not as rich as the Clintons ;)

a little but the tax increase on the rich would pay for most of it. You might want to compare tax brackets now vs. then before you continue this kiddo.

S'ok they kill each other just fine without us.

that's not answering the question child.

Yes she will, she’s waiting on announcing. Trust me, I know this as a fact and she is going to crush Trumptard and his pathetic failed attempt to play president

just because you want it badly doesn't mean it will happen.

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>putting twisted facts on an unflattering picture of the politician
they say the left can't meme and yet the right keeps pulling this cringy boomer shit. fuck you

this retarded

>yay the middle class props up more useless welfare programs

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Thanks for convincing me for the 80th time this week that she pisses retarded faggots like you off. That's all politics is about now, and that's all that matters. I'll gladly help her slam this country into a mountain side just to watch you cry about it on the internet
Donating to her campaign fund immediately

because it's meant for boomers dumbass. get those 60 year olds on fixed incomes to freak out about a young spic

the middle class would benefit from those programs moron.

Welfare NEETs unironically expect middle class people to believe that all this free shit will be entirely covered by the rich. Rich people can take their money elsewhere, the average person cannot. So who do you think will ultimately pay?

pics or it didn't happen

This is an actual quote

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>implying there are no rich people in Scandinavia
neck yourself

Shh give more of your money to $100 million+ Dumbocrats, they have what is best for the poor and middle class in mind, trust them.

you're doing the same thing they did to trump except you have much weaker material to go off of

Uh oh, a poor nigger is donating 5 bucks to help her further divide the Dem base lol

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Based NazBol AOC

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Thats the perfect summary of the Clinton campaign

>too afraid to answer my question
>confirmed projecting poorfag
stay mad kid

so retarded

You are right, she’s weaker material all around

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>you give money to government
>then you can get it back via welfare program

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TRIPS OF TRUTH

it works all throughout Europe, only the rich don't want that to come to the USA

yes, it should.

the united states is the first world country with the lowest tax rates for the rich and for corporations. you can go a long way up before the rich would even consider moving to canada, and not going all that way up is depriving ourselves from essential government programs and school funding as well as indebting future generations, all that just to protect the fat cats you're constantly sucking the dick of

show us that conservative "fiscal responsibility", bootlicker

it doesn't benefit anyone especially when you have open borders

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i'm in canada and i got a lot more out of public universities and healthcare than i'm ever going to pay in taxes

but keep getting cucked out of a decent life and asking for more, cuck

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>The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent. Stats are similar for Sweden & Norway.

Wow looks like the middle class pays for it after all, i'll accept my apology now.

1. the us does not have open borders
2. you need citizenship or at least legal documents for welfare programs

don't conflate issues child. tell me, why aren't they clamoring for our healthcare and education systems if the USA is doing it so well?

Think of one medical procedure developed in free or socialized "affordable" Healthcare systems.
Think about one non-generic drug that wasn't for-profit researched.
Thats the price to be paid.

that doesn't prove there are no rich people in scandinavia, try harder than wikipedia kid.

>namecalling
You lost

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Are you kidding. In a free market healthcare would be so cheap. Plus you're a dishonest liar because I'm in canada and wait times are longer then anywhere. The healthcare quality is lower

>being this much of a little bitch for rich people

Bernie needs a fourth house I guess

Europe is significantly poorer and has significantly higher unemployment, a direct result of marxist policies. Move there if you want to be a leech so bad.

>meanwhile in Norway
>corporate tax rate 24% since 2010

Didn’t know Socialism was so friendly to Mega Corporations

>would rather pay more to enrich hospital administrations and insurance company executives.
wew lad. I'd rather pay more to the government if it means I'd pay less overall and get way more benefits.

Nope nope nope
Illegals still get welfare

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when people defend millionaires and corporations over labor LMAO

>got called out on mixing two issues
calling a retard a retard isn't namecalling retard.

Except this quote is true

if you think I'm pitching FOR the rich and not AGAINST them, you're a reading-impaired retard and I'm sorry for your ashamed parents.

I defend the market. Not workers or companies. The free market is deadly to companies

well if you mix in the slavshit countries yeah

Not him. Just saying, you resorted to namecalling. Automatic loss.

and the tax rate on individuals?

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>*evades taxes by incorporating in scotland*
heh nothing personal

oh go moralize elsewhere cocksucker

>resorting to racism
Libs are just hysterical at this point

Yes yes. Now go get Bernie another $3.3 Million toward his campaign. More money than the last 7 generations of your family has seen, but oh he’ll do what’s best for the needy xD

>again implying there were no rich Americans during the Eisenhower days

>In a free market healthcare would be so cheap.

i know that's hard for you conservatives to understand but just blurting out your opinion does not make it a fact.

even if that was true, and just having a peak at the US example proves that it is not, healthcare needs to be affordable for the lower class and for those who are incapacitated by their medical problems. even if it's "cheap", it means the people who need it the most can't afford it

>Plus you're a dishonest liar because I'm in canada and wait times are longer then anywhere
but you eventually get the healthcare

>The healthcare quality is lower
again, not a fact just because you said so

stop parrotting the rants from your racist uncle at christmas reuinion, you dumbass NPC.

I thought slavs were white?

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So?

Didn’t exist until we had to pay for World War 1, we should be almost done paying that off right? Over a century since it finished?

I never said there were no rich there. I said the middle class will pay the tax bill and i was right. Kys kike

See? Lost again. Not only do you apparently lack intellect if any significant measurement, but class as well.

stay mad kid

this and you're a fucking retard if you think otherwise.

that's a funny way to say "i'm a bootlicker that thinks that status quo is chill and is working fine"

but what is it?

Hello Mr. Shilleroni. Your nickel has been deposited on your account.

Goodbye Mr. Shilleroni. Always a pleasure.

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well then it should be managed better. why isn't your republican government working on this? they're the party who can get away with it.

the middle class would pay some but the rich should pay the majority of the increase and that is what should happen.

Jugoslavija was a shithole

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lol I'm sure you're really popular at parties

Healthcare and education aren't going to cause a steady decline into a fascist nanny state. They're also cheaper than paying for homeless people to skip out on an emergency room bill due to a preventable disease.

Libs genuinely cannot meme. Fucking christ

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the middle class can afford it. do you have any idea how privileged it is to make $60,000 a year nowadays? have you even worked a single day in your life, trust fund boy?

Dot forget sage as you post itt for a chance at a slightly less cancerous Yea Forums

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oy vey the good trump goys are out in force

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A cheaper price is available for the lower class. And again I don't care about your emotionally founded arguments about "but muh working class"

there's an irony in your post

says the bootlicker wanting to grovel at the heels of the majority

Textbook case of failed deflection. No amount of insult will change the fact you lost the argument today.

Because the Republicans are still shit. Rand and Ron are the only good ones

You liberals and conservatives are all pathetic cucks

Kys

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Your claim is bullshit and screenshots of a google search doesn't count as a source.

haha a "free market" defender calling people bootlickers lmao. keep on thinking that the demise of a system that creates poverty would be deadly.

Here comes the centrist.

you butted into the argument, you don't get to decide who wins and loses. you're just a faggot desperate for attention, piss off already.

no it's not. privately funded healthcare means the price is flat for everyone. when you make $20,000 a year you can't afford to dish out several thousand dollars for a decent insurance.

>emotionally founded argument
those are facts, whether or not they're inconvenient to you.

>didn't even bother to line up the transition
lazy af m8

>government puts ham-fisted regulations on business to enrich corporate (insurance) & labor (doctors/nurses) special interests
>government uses the disasterous results of its corrupt policies to campaign for more power
>proles eat this shit up

Do some research man, the # of doctors in the US is significantly limited by AMA lobbyists who shut down medical schools. And that's just one example.

here you go Noah, be sure to invest it wisely

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“Why is it, when you look closely, why are white men always connected to the biggest problems we face? Is it a coincidence? I’m just asking.”
AOC 12/14/2019

you just made a pretty strong case for making doctors into government employees. nice self-own.

she's not wrong.

Look up "illegals on welfare"

yes user, i'm sure your libertarian politicians are more concerned with closing the borders than republicans

do you even know what libertarianism is? because i'm starting to think most libertarians don't have a fucking clue, and that would explain a lot. most of you assholes are just conservatives with a trilby.

that's a good quote!

Antisemitic lib - a mental breakdown happening before our eyes

Oh, is france slavic now? Weird how commies never want to talk about that leftist shithole anymore, you used to hold it up as a model 10 years ago

If someone making $60k per year can afford it, then millionaires and billionaires can afford to pay a marginal tax of 70% of any income over $10 million.

oh the fucking irony of not thinking someone should be able to spend their money and sell their labor how they see fit. no better than the nazis. you faggots get the rope as well

Wrong dickhead, I just know you're all wasting your time, how many people actually like to listen to your opinion?

None, go make a contribution to society instead of yelling at the other side on the internet

Dickhead

try again. the gop isn't even really the party of capitalism anymore. trump has no principles anyway. a modern mixed economy is nowadays exemplified by blue states more than anything

You have no fucking clue how cheap healthcare would be
>no ip laws so equipment is cheaper for the hospitals
>no minimum wage for nurses or other janitors
>no need for government approval to open
All that would make it cheaper

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>do you have any idea how privileged it is to make $60,000 a year nowadays?

Yikes. This is what the dirty, stinky commies think of normal people who work for a living.

>I've never listened to rand or Ron talk about immigration

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Sane people want their representatives to be factual and able to make decisions based on reason not because of a self righteous moral high ground that may not be justified.
But hey who cares about reasons when your fee fee matters more.

Said no Socialist ever

Nothing could possibly go wrong in a completely unregulated medical industry! Guys have you heard about this invisible hand thing it sounds perfect!?

Sweden is capitalist af. But you get to pay 50% taxes and wait for up to a year to see a doctor. Meanwhile they funnel money up Muhammeds gaping anus so that the leftists get to feel good.

Yeah dude, we should totally reward the government for destroying an industry by giving them absolute power over it. Great incentive structure, no wonder the west is crumbling

This. The SJW Libertarians are cancer.

Real libertarians look at immigration as a matter of protecting private property (the country)

Retard knows nothing about Sweden.

lmao. are you fucking retarded? it would make healthcare worthless.

no ip laws = pharmaceuticals have no incentive to do research = medical science stops progressing.

nurses don't make minimum wage in the first place. their job is so shitty that lowering their wage would drain the system of its human resources. that's one of those "free market" things you keep talking down to others about.

government approval is the only thing standing between us and the rampant quackery that characterized healthcare in the 19th century. just like most extreme libertarian ideas, your "solution" is just a problem we already solved.

you're an absolute fucking moron. if you want to take society back to the industrial age, that's your right, but at least don't talk down to others when you preach for that bullshit

Idiot thinks private property=nation

Please show us your source for these claims. I bet it's a youtube video or a blog from americanfreedompatriots.ru

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The libertarian party is cancer. And your completely right open borders are "an attack on private property"

if you really believed in that you wouldn't have elected trump. his entire campaign was about people relating to him because they're angry about their own micropenis.

any politician can be caught saying stupid shit like this once in their life. it doesn't mean anything. if it's okay for one side it's okay for the other.

Because white society has allowed a large swath of people gather peacefully to where you can disagree and call them problems.
Brown societys kill you if you disagree. She should go live in Nigeria and see if her minority voice matters. Or China where you'll be jailed for ripping down a political poster. Oh don't worry you'll be deported back to the USA after you beat yourself into a coma.

>Mom! Jews are posting inconvenient facts on Yea Forums again!

The government, obviously.

>no ip laws = pharmaceuticals have no incentive to do research = medical science stops progressing
Your double digit iq is showing. Patents are why there is monopolies in the medication market
Youre the boot licker now retard
>nurses don't make minimum wage in the first place. their job is so shitty that lowering their wage would drain the system of its human resources. that's one of those "free market" things you keep talking down to others about.
Pay janitors less keeps healthcare costs down
>government approval is the only thing standing between us and the rampant quackery that characterized healthcare in the 19th century. just like most extreme libertarian ideas, your "solution" is just a problem we already solved

>I don't know what 3rd party groups or private watch dog groups are

*yawn* Getting mighty old. Time to move on to another topic. Nobody's listening...

Sure. I know nothing other than I've lived here for 6 years, pay 50% taxes and have been on a waiting list for a year to see a doctor. Keep up the good work Mr Swede.

In a country where all property is privately owned then it is the country

except the people who understand economics. go ahead. drive this shit bus into the fuck hole. i don't care. jussayin' there are some of us that are ready and wanting that so we can cull the herd.

Avg population of those country's is like 7milion .....population of usa 325 million. Maybe im viewing thos tho the wrong glasses but if you study algorithms, depending on input size, you have an associated time complexity. For example selection sort given a relatively small input has something compared to a constant time time complexity. Given a very large input, it's time complexity is exponential. I think this concept is important to keep in mind. Given some system, that in its most basic form could be compared to the way Native American tribes ran their society, when scaled to 325 million people, it breaks.

Who said I voted for Trump? I just think AOC is a God damn moron.
I have no tribe in the political world. I left the democrat party a long time ago and won't join the Republicans.

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard and you're a fucking faggot for thinking otherwise

Good god the right-wing is positively pants-shittingly terrified of this woman. It's awesome. Great that she gets to live in their heads rent free too.

a lonely loner on a lonely road... alone!

>Patents are why there is monopolies in the medication market
The "monopolies" are the incentives for research. Research costs a shitload of money and IP is the incentive for these enormous investments.
>Pay janitors less keeps healthcare costs down
That's not going to make a significant difference.

>I don't know what 3rd party groups or private watch dog groups are
Oh yeah let's leave it to private interests to police other private interests. Nothing can go wrong with that. I'm sure a bunch of ph.Ds are willing to group up and make sure all new medical treatments are up to code for free from the kindness of their heart.

People like you keep making fun of the left for being unrealistic but you're so far up your own asses with confidence in the perfection of the private sector that it's borderline psychotic.

> I'm a retard and not afraid to show it

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Yeah yeah, you're a galaxy brained centrist. Most of my point stands. Politicians all say dumb shit. You gotta vote for one of them anyway. Vote for the policies, not for the personality.

I'm not sure if youre trolling but kill yourself anyway

>posts meme because they can't form their own words
>doesn't know about indirect consequences

>The "monopolies" are the incentives for research. Research costs a shitload of money and IP is the incentive for these enormous investments
Do you know what trade secrets are? Do you want prices to be high forever? If a company has a monopoly it has no incentive for further research itself.
>Oh yeah let's leave it to private interests to police other private interests. Nothing can go wrong with that. I'm sure a bunch of ph.Ds are willing to group up and make sure all new medical treatments are up to code for free from the kindness of their heart.
>People like you keep making fun of the left for being unrealistic but you're so far up your own asses with confidence in the perfection of the private sector that it's borderline psychotic
Oh yeah let's trust the government to regulate what's healthy. The government that is paid off the same government that did MKULTRA and drugged their own citizens

You know they're smart when they leave blatant spelling errors

thats about the right response from a socialist. good job

isn't that what you people say leftists always do calling everyone nazis?

i wonder if you call antifa the real fascists too :p

they're not the same on the surface but both want to control the individual and therefore both should hang in public.

meanwhile people in the US don't even get to see the dr or afford prescriptions due to lack of insurance or money if they are insured. I wonder why Sweden is ranked such a happy country if everyone is waiting soooooo long to go see their doctors?

All those things you pay for in taxes. That's not help if you're paying for it.

OP should be banned for posting this every fucking hour. You spammng shitcock

>Do you know what trade secrets are? Do you want prices to be high forever? If a company has a monopoly it has no incentive for further research itself.
No, but that's why Canada has a middle grounds policy on drugs and our drugs are cheaper than in the US. The pharmacologic company that invents a new medication gets to have it patented for 5 or 10 years, and then other companies get to make the same medication for cheaper.

Your system would allow anyone to produce any new medication right after it's discovered. Why would big pharma bother investing millions and billions into discovering new treatments if, on the next day, any smaller drug manufacturer can just start making the same drug for much cheaper and underselling the inventor?

Yeah, I hate that drugs have to be costly while they're under patent, but it's the only way they can be invented. The research that goes into their invention isn't free, it has a price and this system makes it so that price is paid. It's better that than nothing, and our system of compromise is better than the Americans'.

>The government isn't perfect, therefore private sector is better
See this is the most recurring fallacy in libertarian logic. Yes, the government fucks up sometimes, but it's significantly harder and less interesting for them to get corrupted because profit is not part of their model in the first place. Private watchdogs are paid for by the companies they rate. Right off the bat, they're incentivised to give favourable reviews to their clients, or else they might go to another watchdog. Look at what happened to BBB. It used to be trusted, now it's a fucking joke. It's inevitable with any evaluation system where money comes into play.

Honestly, it should be common sense that private watchdogs would be more corruptible than the government. You're blinded by dogmatism.

There are multiple OPs

what a novel thought! someone that probably chooses defending hate speech as their hill to die on, on the internet! truly remarkable the bravery seen here

nazis are enemies of democracy and should be considered terrorists. antifas only exist because people like you fell for their self-victimizing PR game and gave up fighting them

well she's not wrong

and yet still a capitalist market.

do you maybe mean the only examples you will choose to cherry pick?

lets me guess you don't include northern europe, canada, china, new zealand, belgium as socialist, but you will gladly cherry pick marxist failed authoritarian command economy states and economically sanctioned south american states that have been in the midst of economic war with the u.s.

It's a bot, retard. You're literally bending over for a machine

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correct. why is it so difficult for people to see that every modern economy is mixed? why constantly time travel 100 years into the past and complain about "socialism" and "capitalism" as if these weren't complete abstractions that only mislead people now in conversation? the question isn't whether universal healthcare is socialism, it's whether one can afford it and what its effects would be. neither trump nor AOC and their respective echo chambers seem to be willing to give an actual grown up argument for their view on the matter. it's childish name calling and fear mongering, but obv that's what Yea Forums is drawn to

>See this is the most recurring fallacy in libertarian logic. Yes, the government fucks up sometimes, but it's significantly harder and less interesting for them to get corrupted because profit is not part of their model in the first place. Private watchdogs are paid for by the companies they rate. Right off the bat, they're incentivised to give favourable reviews to their clients, or else they might go to another watchdog. Look at what happened to BBB. It used to be trusted, now it's a fucking joke. It's inevitable with any evaluation system where money comes into play.
>Honestly, it should be common sense that private watchdogs would be more corruptible than the government. You're blinded by dogmatism.
If a watchdog is corrupt another one can replace it. The government can't be replaced
>No, but that's why Canada has a middle grounds policy on drugs and our drugs are cheaper than in the US. The pharmacologic company that invents a new medication gets to have it patented for 5 or 10 years, and then other companies get to make the same medication for cheaper.
That hampers innovation. Why would a competitor enter a market closed by a patent monopoly?
>Your system would allow anyone to produce any new medication right after it's discovered. Why would big pharma bother investing millions and billions into discovering new treatments if, on the next day, any smaller drug manufacturer can just start making the same drug for much cheaper and underselling the inventor
Trade secrets. A survey found that researches prefer trade secrets. Patents create a legal monopoly. Patents are abused.

>If a watchdog is corrupt another one can replace it.
If there is no government, there is no way to know if a watchdog is corrupt. Who's watchdogging the watchdogs?
>The government can't be replaced
Another one of the common libertarian fallacies: You think people don't have any on their government, but that's actually just you projecting your helplessness about your stupid political cause not gaining any traction on all of society. Governments are replaced every four years. It's called elections.
>That hampers innovation. Why would a competitor enter a market closed by a patent monopoly?
The monopoly is on the products themselves, not on the market as a whole. If competitors want to enter the market, they have to come up with their own inventions. That's the point: Pharmaceuticals have to come up with remedies. If they don't, there's no point.
>Trade secrets. A survey found that researches prefer trade secrets. Patents create a legal monopoly. Patents are abused.
You can't protect a molecule with a trade secret. That's what most medications are. D'urr hurrr. Hurr durr fucking hurr. You're so fucking stupid, jesus christ.

Can't stump.

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I'm confused, the guy on his shirt has hair and Subhash is bald in those photos.
Where's the picture of him with hair so you can see it's actually him

it's true. i wouldn't stump on something that's full of shit.

>The monopoly is on the products themselves, not on the market as a whole. If competitors want to enter the market, they have to come up with their own inventions. That's the point: Pharmaceuticals have to come up with remedies. If they don't, there's no point
You're wrong.
1. The company that has the monopoly rests on their victory and doesn't do any R&D.
2. No innovation can occur until after the patent expires because patents cover a general area.
>The monopoly is on the products themselves, not on the market as a whole. If competitors want to enter the market, they have to come up with their own inventions. That's the point: Pharmaceuticals have to come up with remedies. If they don't, there's no point
Once they come up with an invention. They just patent it and sit on their patent for years

Also historical data shows us that patents hamper innovation. The steam engine innovated only after the patents expired. The lack of patents also causes more competition which creates innovation. Patents hamper innovation and conpetetion because companies spend more time patenting shit rather then researching.

You really don't understand how the pharmaceutical industry works and I'm getting sick of you sealioning me into explaining it to you over and over again. You have a cognitive fixation and that's for a psychiatrist to deal with, not me. Bye.

Run away little boy. Cry more

The irony of this being posted on Yea Forums, where everyone comes to get free shit, is just too much.

Lazy commentators attribute it to AOC, but this wasn't her district, and she wasn't the one who made Amazon not come to NY.

NY already has low unemployment and the jobs didn't pay shit anyway

To those who say fuck socialism, I guess we should just stop paying for public schools. Fuck children and their education.