Just had a conversation with my friend about the un considering to ban loli and shota porn

Are you retarded? Pretty sure most people on this planet would kill someone if they get to choose and with no consequences. Same for raping an adult and robbery. That proves nothing

Not everybody in the world is a demented loser who fantasizes about killing his bullies everyday

I said most

Oh you're one of those dipshits that takes things literally. No wonder you're so out of touch with society.

>That proves nothing
You just proved MY point you absolute dumb fuck. Your retardation belongs in prison or in a grave.

>Brags about being a pedo
>should be hung

I would never do it you retarded bastard. In a hypothetical world, where I wouldn't go to prison, I wouldn't be castrated by society and the kid will never be scarred for life, yes I would do it. But this is reality, so fuck no

I'm not bragging for Christ's sake. I hate being a pedo. Fucking jesus christ

I say keep the threads around so we can tell who needs to be publicly executed with their fellow pedos.

Say we get rid of Loli and shota porn. Now that they're gone, the degenerates have nothing legal. Without this watered down version of cp, nothing is stopping them from going after the real thing since it's already illegal. Without Loli and shota, more people would go after real cp. What op said was true. The chances of them getting more cp than actually seeking help is probably more likely to happen.

THANK YOU

>admits to being a pedo on public board.
welcome to the official FBI watch-list bud.

Bullshit, as if all the fucked up shit you jerk off to is a precursor of whats to come.

M E D I C A L C A S T R A T I O N

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Indulging in loli and shota can be considered as reinforcing negative behavior. This only makes it worse.

Simulating bringing sexual harm to a child reinforces the negative behavior. More often than not this kind of thing leads to a "snowball effect."

People really seem to misunderstand that sex works in really weird way in our human brains. I keep hearing people compare watching lolicon or shotacon to playing a violent videogame, but to those people I say "How many men have tried something in bed that they saw in a porno, versus how many men have hopped in their car and ran over 300 pedestrians?"

No. This is bad, and pedophilia is abhorred for a very good reason, and anyone who touches a child, or wishes to touch a child in a sexual manner should find their place at the end of a rope.

So you're saying people understand right from wrong and trying harmless things in bed is different from committing a crime.. okay.

I have been into kids long before I had access to the internet. There will always be pedophiles user, no matter what you do

Bottom line is, their just drawings and incriminating someone for a drawing is fascism.

>”Yeah yeah yeah I’ll just keeping lying to you”
What ever helps you sleep at night

seeking help typically results in the person seeking help being put on a registry and shamed by society

I have little sisters. Sorry bro, would never do anything with them, but the moment I "discovered" girls at like 10 or 11, I have wanted to do stuff with them.
You do realize that pedos have been around since before the internet, right?

And that's why people won't seek it

For as long as there are pedophiles, there will be rope

My point is that sex acts differently in the human head

Let's try this again: How many people after playing Mirror's Edge tried out parkour?

>Personally I am a pedo
>Obviously my friend doesn't know
He definitely knows.

How many people want to fucking die? How many people watch incest videos on pornhub and are currently fucking their mother? How many people jerk off to bi or gay porn and actually end up having gay sex?

>How many people jerk it to gay porn/incest and actually do it?

Plenty. And plenty more would do it if societal consequences weren't in place for those things. For example: See California over the last century.

>How many people want to die?
And how many commit suicide?

read the thread. This is the first and only time I have talked to him about something like this

Read my words.

He knows.

Tell your "friend" that human nature can't be reigned in like it's some kind of bull in a cage and that punishing people for drawings is never the right course of action, regardless of what it is they depict or what interests they cater to.
That's the literal definition of thought crime, and if your friend can't understand why that's wrong, then fuck him.

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Enjoying something in porn doesn't have to hold any connection to real life, people don't watch incest because they genuinly want to engage in it, some do, and being able to enjoy it in this form might scratch that its for them.

And sure, but people don't want to go out and die because they played mirror's edge.

>people don't watch incest because they genuinly want to engage in it
>some do
It's every bad faith argument for taboo activities, ever.

It doesn't "scratch the itch" for them, it gets them close to wanting to ACTUALLY scratch the itch. That's what you don't get. Pedophilia doesn't have a magical cutoff.

Should we let sociopaths torture animals because it "scratches the itch?" No, because it only brings them closer to the edge.

Because lesbian milf sex is totally fucked. Get a life you fat fuck.

He doesn't. Trust me, I know him pretty well and we always discuss weird topics, sometimes I think something is wrong and he is defending it. The whole conversation was something like this:
>Oh, did you hear that the UN considering banning hentai that includes kids?
>No, but that's good
>But hentai gives pedos an outlet that doesn't involve hurting anyone
>They should get help before they get shot
>But if they get help they think the likely hood of getting shot is higher
>How?
>Because why would they admit something like that to anyone and not expect to get shot?
Then the topic changed

Anyway. I'm going to bed now, really tired

Delusions and lies.

Until they allow thought crimes it really doesn't matter. We will have far bigger problems at that point than lolis.

Just keep on keeping on. Let them be filled with hate.

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If you're a homo then you need to get psychological treatment. There are people who can help you.

I swear I'm going to bed
All true, although I don't see what would be suprising about it. This is b after all. Of course a lot of this is probably from being molested myself as a kid

>Personally I am a pedo

If I saw you walking around in public I'd shove a knife right in your throat.

>Kill me for thinking something
Nice user, you definitely have the high ground

No image should ever be illegal to look at. Fuck John Law man. Protest and survive.

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>I want to believe in my delusions so I'm going to go to bed now
He knows.

Whatever

>Because pedophilia has no negative psychological effect on its victims
>Because people who do good things can't also do bad things
>Jewish doublethink trick tactics pointing the finger in the other direction
Get the Hell out of here. There was a good reason that Hitler shut down smut theaters and burned Marxist books. You're just a faggot who wants to touch kids, and you know that when the day of the rope comes, you'll never see the next sunrise.

seeking help results in this
you are ostracized and shamed and put on a public predator list which follows you everywhere you go for the rest of your life and is announced to what ever community you move into before even move furniture in to your new place all for something you never did. just because you went to seek help to deal with urges and thoughts you can not control aside from not acting upon them

>implying most men wouldn't fuck a kid given no consequences
What rock have you been living under ?

Hitler had great admiration for the Roman empire, and we all know what went on back then.

>This thread

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Towards the end, when they died? Yeah. We know exactly how sinking into moral degeneracy ultimately leads to cultural death.

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Today it is legal to watch a crack whore have a nigger cock shoved down her throat until she vomits, but it's illegal to watch a 14 year old masturbate. Which is more degenerate?

both are pretty degenerate to be honest

Watching a child participate in a sexual act is more degenerate 100% of the time because they do not have the emotional or intellectual maturity to give informed consent.

You are a massive retard.

>pedophilia=/= being a sexual predator
one is thoughts and urges for something the other is acting upon it knowing its wrong with reprehensible results.not every pedophile acts upon their urges but every sexual predator does whether it be raping fully grown women or men or raping children.

>Pedophilia 100% = being a sexual predator
If given the opportunity every pedophile will have sexual relations with a child, that is the crux of being a pedophile. You can say you won't a thousand times, but everyone knows deep down that you absolutely would, and that is why we hate you.

Having these urges, period, means you are a monster. The only way to make sure you never harm a child is to see that you are put in the ground before you even have the chance.

>Watching a child participate in a sexual act is more degenerate 100% of the time because they do not have the emotional or intellectual maturity to give informed consent.
if the said "child" uploaded the video to the internet they willfully made the decision to do so and many do.now if some one else recorded it and uploaded it that person is at fault not the viewer the viewer is the consumer the one providing the content is at fault. blaming the person watching the video is like being angry at people taking money that is dropped into a crowd because the money was stolen

This guy gets it.

This guy is a retard.

This guy is a pedophile.

not necessarily trying to justify touching kids. but im certain that a good 15% of dudes are pedos. they are sexual predators everywhere. next door, in your family, your direct family. the world runs on lolis and a lot of you are in denial.

>but everyone knows deep down that you absolutely would.
you assume this but its not true people have the ability to not do things they have urges for.every day people think about robbing banks or killing a coworker they hate or an ex who ruined their life but they do not.people are people some have no will power and act upon urges some do not others have no conscience and do things because they can and those people are sociopaths and would do anything even murder or torture given the chance with no repercussions.

The child uploaded the video, but they do not have the MATURITY to give informed consent. A child can sign a contract that says in ten years someone gets to harvest their liver, but that does not mean that the child understands or fully consents to the ramifications of their signature because they are not developed enough. This is why we don't send children to war, why we don't let them donate organs or blood, and yes, why we don't let them have sex with adults.

And the viewer/money taker in that scenario is guilty because the child is still a child, and if that is even remotely known to the viewer then that means they are willingly partaking in a criminal offense. If the people in the crowd KNOW that the money is stolen, then they are willingly partaking in thievery.

You're posting this on Yea Forums. If anything, you're as much of a pathetic loser as he is.

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>the world runs on lolis
see now this is the problem people who cannot see the difference between a fictional character and real children are lumped in with people who know the difference and would never touch real kids

There are stories all over about "wrong place, wrong time" in which a "normal" person with these urges snaps, or gains the upper hand on someone they have urges against.

If you're a pedo and you're using the images to relieve yourself, you should get help instead. It should be illegal because while you're not hurting anyone you're hurting yourself and engaging your mental illness and entertaining it.

a lot of grown ass adults don't have the common sense or maturity to make healthy adult decisions as well should we ban them from using the internet ? should they be euthanized for being inferior beings with poor judgement and making bad life choices?

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your talking about circumstantial situations which would fit into any category .also your making the assertion that an average person given the change would commit a crime given the chance with out repercussions

see this

this

>Obviously my friend doesn't know
You mean didn't know...

Dafuq is with pedo scum never listening to anything but the justification in their own head but bringing it up more than proselytizing vegans for "discussion"?

lol i love it when u creeps say hey its just a cartoon we aint harming nobody.

Its the whole fucked mindset that is the problem but you despicable spergs lack braincells to see the logic in that.

Also loli shares/dumps are just honeypots enjoy the flag creeps.

It sounds to me like hes a typical normie who cant tell the difference between reality and lines on paper. Drawings cant be touched, interacted with, hurt, felt or emotionally or mentally scarred. Societal brainwashing doesn't make it real either no matter what mental gymnastics are tried. There is no provable impact that animated porn has on real life, nor provable link to making people seek out real children, the opposite infact is more provable for the fact if these pedos were interested in real girls it gives those that are frustrated or mentally deranged a outlet like you said. Factually, anyone that is an actual potentially dangerous pedophile as I described above, was already one regardless of cartoons.

Hentai stands no classification within pedophilia as it is animated. The APPLICABLE classification of pedophilia is someone who actively seeks out and harms real young children. The UNDENIABLE FACT that they cannot interact with them in any way shape or form that you can possibly conjure in their attempt at mental gymnastics to condemn cartoons negates any concept of pedophilia by basic rules of logic and perception.

2D Cartoons (aside those that are famous like the simpsons) have no actual age classification as loli (and shota for that fact) is a BODY TYPE. Not an age group unless specifically stated otherwise by the contents artist. For the other 99% of examples, there is absolutely no age given and it is left up to the viewer to decide the actual age.

>my friend
YOU FUCKING LIE!
GET THE FUCK OUT!

No, because they have reached the age where they have developed fully and, on an aggregate level, have a full conscious perception of their selves and their surroundings. At that point they are no longer under protection, and whatever happens to them they must deal with the consequences on their own.

It may be circumstantial, however it happens over and over again, provably. A human with a deep desire, urge, or obsession, given the power to enact it, will enact it. Because of the egregious nature of acts that victimize children, there should be no tolerance for it.

good thing we don't live in Australia

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kys pedo faggot

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but they still lack the faculties to make rational decisions the only difference is they have grown physically and passed a certain age. neither of those factors predicate actual ability to make rational judgment. so what your suggesting is that mentally incompetent adults should need supervision for their behavior by others with common sense and the ability to make decisions in their stead?

so what your saying is that even you a rational person making an argument against pedophiles would given the right situation be capable of doing something despicable and are as much of a danger to society as the pedophile is then

Fairly certain that already happens for mentally incompetent adults. As in, the kind of mental incompetence one thinks of when you take the phrase mental incompetence at face value, exactly.

You know. Mentally incompetent adults.

Rollino

>What is government
>What are personal trainers
>What are financial advisors

Anyhow, the point is that on an aggregate level, these people are mature enough to provide for themselves and make their way in the world. Is eighteen years old arbitrary? Yes. But it keeps things simple. Our society is predicated on axioms that are desperately required to function, and until we can concretely determine a better alternative, this is where we are.
>Just as much of a danger
No. Pedophiles are possibly one of the biggest possible threats to our society because they cause internal damage. A fair number of children who are molested go on to become pedophiles, or otherwise have mental conditions that develop from that. These issues go on to affect those around them, their kids (if they have any) will have to deal with a broken parental figure, etc..

It is, for all intents and purposes, a memetic virus

Lol

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so your saying that a possible murderer or rapist or thief or arsonist is less dangerous than a pedophile because you believe it to be so. i want to know where you got your information about child molestation causing the victim to become another molester. from everything i've read a great deal of victims hate the idea of sex or being touched and it takes a lot of therapy for them to have a normal adult relationship.

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Your argument about it helping pedos is stupid. If you're going to argue say that it would be hard to know the age of a fictional character and it's a slippery slope to start banning drawings for such reasons.

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go gettem Spidey

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>getting help
HA
biggest meme ever
No, "getting help" WILL put you on a list
AND you WILL not keep the kids
Or see them
or have guns
or most otc drugs

I wanted to fuck anybody for like 7 years now. And I did not. Fuck you.

It would take me a long time to find the study again, but as I remember something around 70-90% of pedophiles were molested as children, and 20-30% of molested children grow up to be pedophiles.

Anyhow, it is not because I believe it so, it is because of the measured effect.

People with murdered family members don't go on to become murderers. People whose houses were burned down don't burn down more houses. In fact, in most of these cases, there is a good potential for the victim/everyone close to the victim to go on and have a relatively normal life. Pedophilia on the other hand, causes life-long emotional trauma that is then projected onto others around the victim.

That's lack of opportunity, not lack of motive.

roll

i'm studying plato in ancient philosophy. the topic of pederasty came up. it was an official question on a quiz about how acceptable it was in ancient greece. plato has socrates saying something about how it is to adore a boy, etc. and we had to be explained that it was normal to have a little fuck boy at the time.

So, I Tried To Get Help..
>Ask Father If He Can Search For Some Attention
>Asks Why
>I Told Him "Because I Like Watching 7 Yo Girls Getting Fucked"
And That's Why I'm Orphan Now

Let's murder people for thoughts now.

Muhammad married a 6 year old. Used her as a masturbation tool for 3 years and raped her when she was 9. There is artwork of children. The Disney Channel. Also Loli dolls. What the fuck are we talking about anyway?

Pederasty far more involved apprenticeship than pedophilia. Romans and Greeks being pedophiles is a big meme used to push the agenda of kid-diddlers.

Obviously, yeah, some people abused their position of power and raped children. That does not mean that it was justified, or commonplace.

If you express it, or attempt to act on it, yeah. You should be left in a ditch and the police should be "too busy" with handing out parking tickets to investigate.

Pedophilia is an entirely unique case, and the expression of the abnormal desire to have sex with a child should never be taken lightly, nor tolerated in any form. Death should be the only answer to your desire, you disgusting subhuman.

If a pedophile goes for psychological treatment that are legally obligated to inform the authorities so that he can't hurt anyone.

That's why alot of pedos don't seek help and just deal with their thoughts because they'll be registered as a predator for the rest of their life. It sucks but that's how our current fucked-up system is.

Sandniggers are subhumans who deserve genocide.

Just like all pedophiles.

The "watching loli hentai makes you a pedo" argument is as valid as the "playing violent videogames makes you violent" argument.

It isn't.

Hm, if I want to only look at naked kids, does it make me a pedophile? Sex with kids is kinda stupid, but the fact that finding photos of naked kids is harder than finding photos of back side of the moon strangely irritates me. It's more a curiocity than anything.

These are the words of a guilty pedophile.

Nah, you're just fucking with me.

I already said this, but let's go again:

Sexuality and violence are two completely different parts of the human psyche.

How many dudes do you know that have tried something that they saw in a porno in bed, versus how many dudes do you know that started skating after playing a Tony Hawk game, or tried out parkour after playing mirror's edge, or run down five dozen pedestrians after playing GTA?

Yes. And you should be slaughtered like a diseased animal.

These are the words of a guilty pedophile.

believing that a family of a murder victim does not have long term psychological effects is poor judgement. believing that victims of arson do not have long term life effecting psychological effects is also miss information. you are making conclusions based on biased opinion rather than factual backed up data.while i do not disagree that victims of pedophilia and their families are affected by it in a similar fashion.
also here is some real data
>There is widespread belief in a ‘cycle’ of child sexual abuse, but little empirical evidence for this belief.
that is the opening statement in
>the Cycle of child sexual abuse: Links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator
a Cambridge psychological study on the very thing you tried to give false values for i would have linked it but Yea Forums deemed the link spam

Why do I need bed, if I have porno?

That's not real data. Those are just statements.

Did you explaining the NAP and how it doesn't violate it?

i agree anyone who harms others mentally and physically should be punished regardless of age of the victim and severity of harm

roll

>That's not real data. Those are just statements.
and so are the values and opinions you have put forth here but at least its statements of actual psychologists based on gathered statistical data

>Believing the family of a murder/arson victim doesn't suffer psychological damage is poor judgement

I never said that they don't suffer damage, I said they suffer far less than a victim of pedophilia. As where death and loss are and has been a natural part of humanity since the we were created, pedophilia, the act of abusing a child sexually, is not something we have ever needed to adjust to. Thus it has far worse long-term effects.

>Cambridge study
I'm sure that they've found different things, but all studies are subject to error, and any study could be wrong. Largely we deal with a lack of information on the subject. I know that what I read was study that took testimony from hundreds of people, and it seemed very credible, and follows the flow of natural logic very well.

Great strawman there, faggot.

>i agree anyone who harms others mentally
you mean, entirity of Yea Forums?
taking photos is so painful, sure

I'm not that user. If you're going to suggest that statements without explicit citations are valid, just because a licensed psychologist performed a funded study and gathered data, it gives me equal power to cite a study that concludes that the mixing of the races was a mistake, simply because it was done by a licensed professional who performed a funded study and gathered data, regardless of how or why.

>statements without explicit citations
that document has 83 explicit citations user

Did I say that the study itself lacked explicit citations?

you are missing the point of me even posting about the document its factual data cited by at least 83 different psychological professionals. who actually know what they are talking about rather than giving random percentages based on something i read that i couldn't remember where it came from. your comparing it to me posting information about some other study about genealogy has no logic or reasoning

Did I say that the study itself lacked explicit citations?

>793451189
>pedophilia, the act of abusing a child sexually, is not something we have ever needed to adjust to.
i would venture to say we are adjusting to it now and that up until pretty recently historically in history child abuse and molestation was far more common
Psychohistorical study of the history of childhood has provided extensive evidence that childhood in the past was routinely filled with terror, neglect and abuse-both physical and emotional. Adequate parenting is a late historical achievement, and most countries in the world continue to severely abuse most children even today. Even in America, about half of all children are sexually molested, and the rates are even higher in non-Western nations. The traumatic effects of this widespread abuse is the source of the periodic wars and social violence that have been the hallmark of mankind until now.

Roll

>if you're a pedo you should get help instead of going to loli, loli is just a gateway to wanting more and we need to protect the children!

>getting help is puts you on registry + ruins societies view on you and its been proven by data that cp being legal lowers child sex crimes drastically.

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There's certainly a curiosity that comes to it, but actually acting upon it could permanently psychologically (and/or physically) hurt the child and that is unacceptable and unfair to the child.

It's one thing for it to be a fantasy but in the real world actions have real lasting consequences

MEGA ROLL

Lol

Does school counts as abuse? Technically it's forced, imagine saying "I won't want to go to school" to your parents.

Did the gym teacher touch you? It's okay you can tell us.

Who cares? Fuck the UN in anything they think. God damn sub human globalists

I did this. My just called me in sick

>mom

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Nay, just other kids being fucking assholes due to me being a fucking retard. Nothing unusual.

"It doesn't 'scratch the itch'"
Source: your ass

point was that the user i was responding to had it backwards rather than historically mankind not having to adjust to child abuse and molestation rather it being addressed and attempting to remedy it is a very modern concept as in the late 20th century in most cases

Yeah. No.

I think we should castrate you to relieve you of the urges altogether.

rol

that's not even how castration works. Eunuch's still had urges dumb ass

>hey you should willingly put yourself on a predator list
right fucking genius you are

I think the real issue is that a bunch of fucks are constantly trying to tell people what to do. I'll stick my penis in every un members mothers mouth

so far anyone making claims that lolicon hentai has any coloration of it leading to actual child molestation has been just that a sourceless biased opinion. also these people lump child molesters in with lolicon fetishists and pedophiles who would never act upon it . stating that given the chance of no repercussions any one of them would molest a child.based on the analogy that the average person given a chance to do any number of crimes with out repercussions would do so. which in it self is a fallacy not based on real data

Stop abusing nonexistent fictional characters you degenerates.
Wow, you're all so very tiny down there while i'm on this high horse.

It's hilarious that you armchair vigilante types think you have the moral high ground.

yeah they know the "seek help" thing is a trap they just hope we are dumb enough to fall for it.there is no help only persecution and a lifetime of being a second class citizen for something we never did.

exactly their high horse is constructed of bullshit

This guy actually distributes drawn images of children.

good i hope he keeps doing it and i hope he does it more now that you pointed it out and that it upsets you

He also gets upset easily.

>Posts in a pedo thread (Or any thread, really) on Yea Forums.

Welcome to a watch list, buddy. We're all there already, this isn't new.

boy i feel sorry for the fbi agents responsible for monitoring me they would be bored as fuck

he does? good lets upset him more

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Pan was the worst part of GT and you know it OP regardless if you're a pedophile or not she was a shit character (I'm not a pedophile I just fucking hate pan and want her to die)

>Personally I am a pedo
And I bet you visit illegal websites. KYS

Even if OP is right about his faggoty pedo drawings being harmless, which I do not believe he is, you have to take the advancement of CGI technology into account. Pretty soon these images will be indistinguishable from genuine photography if they aren't already.

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it's degenerate and should be banned.

The only way to cure yourself is to delete system 32 and hang yourself, you fucking autistic cunt.

>banning loli means every single picture in the world magically disappears

your bait is dumb as fuck

>ruins societies view on you and its been proven by data that cp being legal lowers child sex crimes drastically.

Then who makes the porn?

roll

>
I mean...Pedos are born that way so it's not their fault, and I'd much rather they'd spank it to drawings instead of real children or even worse potentially even molesting/raping one, and I also wished that people (meaning psychiatrists and the like) were more willing to help them rewire their brains (or something) to not be attracted to children and not judge them for being how they are, so I guess loli and shota porn would be a nice alternative to the....other way of getting their fix, but I also think they should get help.