Alright fucbois and fucgals, let's settle this once and for all: Does liking loli necessarily make you a pedo...

that's what I'm getting at lol. better loli than cp or actually harming children but I can't wrap my head around people acting like it's ok because its 2d

For me it isn’t really the issue of whether it’s ok or not, but it’s so retarded that people are that far in denial. There’s even lolicon traced from real kids, but it somehow “isn’t pedophilia”

The real question is, what’s the difference between a lolicon as a pedophile with an exclusive anime fetish? They’re both attracted to child bodies, it’s just that one is drawn. It still represents a child body though.

Badly worded

It probably is. What would’ve been a better way to phrase it?

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good points. totally agree with you there. kinda like the 'traps aren't gay' sentiment that's so popular around here

>They're both attracted to child bodies
not true. pedos are attracted to child bodies, while lolicons are still disgusted by the sight of a real naked child. Lolicons enjoy the aesthetic of anime style drawn bodies with qualities of youth.

TRAPS are definitely gay, but since there are tits, it’s at least bi. Pedophilia is definitely lolicon though

*lolis have child body shapes though. Lolicons are pedos who have an anime fetish and are likely weebs which is why they find child bodies “disgusting” despite the body shape being the same. Kind of like weebs who find real women “disgusting” like 3dpd and all that. I doesn’t make them not straight men though.

I'm not into it, but I wouldn't say so unless you legit wanted to fuck a child.

exactly. just roll with whatever you're into. as long as you aren't hurting anyone else then you're all good, just fucking admit it at least

But then it’s just pedophilia with a 2d fetish because you’re attracted to child bodies. People who aren’t pedophiles whatsoever aren’t that attracted to bodies that look like children.

Yeah the splitting hairs and mental gymnastics on their part are astonishing

I've always followed the saying almost anything can be hot if you draw it right. I mean I like furry porn, but imagining a real anthropomorphic animal if front of me of a fursuit is fucking horrifying to me.

>mostly or only to lolicon
Not a necessary clarification. If you enjoy loli shit at all, it should apply
>the ones with child bodies
You are assuming everyone agrees it actually depicts the bodies of real children
>because you prefer the child bodies to adult women hentai
Same point, also you don't have to prefer it over hentai depicting adult women. Not a necessary clarification.

Yes but if you jerk off ONLY to anime children because nothing else is hot, that’s pedophilia. Also, anthros don’t have dog body shapes while lolis do have kid body shapes

Ok yes. By “the ones with child bodies” I meant the lolis that have kid bodies, not petite woman that are also called lolis. But you can find lolicon/pizza hot without being a pedo. It isn’t hot because it’s kid bodies, it’s just hit because it’s porn. As long as you don’t think it’s that hot, it isn’t really pedophilia

I mean, I personally am attracted to slim, smaller bodies. Until you are actually thinking "this is hot because it's a child," then I think it's fine.

As soon as you start fapping with intentions of you fucking a child, then before that is where the line should be drawn, I feel.

Right

>lolis have child body shapes though
I'd say over half of loli stuff emphasizes post-pubescent features on a small child-like body, like wide hips or lolis with tits, making it a fetish of its own, and not the same as pedophiles who exclusively prefer prepubescent bodies.

Obviously, but the half of lolis that DONT have tits or curves are the ones I’m referring to. If they have tits and or curves it’s just small women at that point

You're baking into the question that they must be exclusively attracted to lolis, ruling out the option that it is a fetish. That makes it an unfair question based on an assumption that is still being argued.

You can find lolis a few times without being a pedophile. If it’s what you prefer though, that’s pedophilia. I don’t see your point

Ok, I get where you're coming from. Most Lolicons I know aren't ONLY attracted to loli, so it didn't occur to me.
Even then though, even with the same proportions and such, I think it makes sense to be attractive to something in a anime or cartoonish style and not real life. Unless it gets super realistic, I don't really draw correlations myself.

And most pedophiles aren’t only attracted to kids. It’s only if it’s exclusive OR primary that is then pedophilia

But lolis refer to all of that.

Does that mean you agree that liking something like this doesn't make you a pedophile?

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Like you said, only half of lolis are like that. Plenty of lolis have prepubescent bodies, not small women bodies. Kanna is an adult woman from the waist down, so it isn’t pedophilia to be into her legs, but she is usually drawn with a kid pussy, which is kind of pedophilic. But yes if the loli doesn’t have a prepubescent body, it is not pedophilia

So are you saying that only the people who enjoy lolis with proportions and features of real children and also exclusively or mainly enjoy lolis are pedophiles?

People who enjoy the lolis who have prepubescent bodies and features of children are pedophiles yes

I dont like big ass anime tits that are bigger than their goddamn heads.
Plus usually loli characters are cuter so I like them more

As a loliphile I agree it is definitely a form of pedophilia. Whether you are attracted to real children or not. But to be fair, I think real pedophilia isn't a fetish or a psychological disorder, but a neurological disorder, not unlike homosexuality, and as such tragic and incurable.

As long as you don’t like child lolis, you’re not a pedophile

Pedophile here. Unless you buy in to the idea that it's a sexual orientation (which the DSM5 supports), it's pretty close to being a fetish.
Also, it's possible to unambiguously be a pedophile and not be exclusively attracted to children. It just alters your taste in adult women (and give you a strong preference for underdeveloped ones)

I like petite girls irl and in anime. It's still categorize as loli. I get creep out when it's too real or very young
But even then I dont think just liking something that is just drawings of characters that arent real should be labeled as pedophilia

Post an example of the younger end of your taste range and let's see.

It is pedophilia with a 2d fetish. There must be a pedophilic component in ones brain for them to prefer child bodies to developed bodies.

>inb4 ITT: implying being pædophile is bade

Nobody implied that

I don't think being a peso is bad. It's tragic. Being a child molester is bad. Burn them when you find them. Stay away from cp, it's bad for you. It's bad for everyone.

Fucking autoco... Pedo.

>pedophilic component in ones brain
so you talk about the fact that sperm is regenerated time to time fresh and young in the nutsacs while ovules are there from the birth and just get older and lose their genetic quality with the time

so a sane male will be attracted to the younger to ensure better quality in the next bred.

anything you can say bout this fact?

kek, well being latinoamerican is way worse

technically it isn't child exploitation, and paedophilia involves actual kids, no your good.

There is nothing all that attractive to a non pedo about a prepubescent girl because they aren’t capable of reproduction and don’t have markers of reproductive fitness. Lolicon is pedophilia either way.

Don't fuck kids please. We have evolution beyond biological. Hebephilia is one thing, I understand the desire, just hold off a bit longer mate.

Pretty much the body type of marie rose. Small tits but still has them and a pretty normal frame
it's the reason im into Asians because there bodies are pretty petite

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Gay. Little girls are way better

what if i like loli babas or better explained, short young looking adult women?
i dont like kids

I'd argue pedophilia is about your desires. Whether real or not, if it's kids, you're a pedo. You can disagree, that's fine, that's what this thread is here for.

So... shortstacks?

>this
There's a reason why "teen" is a popular porn tag. People like younger girls. That's there prime. Women also know that and will try to stay looking young. Because that's what we think is beautiful
Yeah please no sexual abuse to kids that have no sexual knowledge or desire

You're a hebephile. Try to stay out of any 15 year olds of you can.

What’s the worst excuse?
>she’s really 3000!
>it’s only a drawing, forget what the drawing represents
>lolis don’t even look like real kids though!!! last time I checked real kids didnt have anime heads!!

Fuck yes please

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Obviously stupid. But that doesn’t apply to little girls since yes they have eggs, but they can’t reproduce.

perfection

Fuck kids, shortstacks where it's at

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>Fuck kids
Oh wait nooooo

Shortstacks are the GOAT

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>inb4 shortstacks is just pedophilia with a oppai fetish

No one actually thinks that idiot

what about lolis that are 3000yo

>pedophilia with a 2d fetish
Idk if someone actually believe this then they'll find some connection

nice bait

How is that not what it is? What is your counter argument?