Bernie is the only candidate in the 2020 race. Doesn't matter if you're Democrat, republican, black, Latino, Asian...

Bernie is the only candidate in the 2020 race. Doesn't matter if you're Democrat, republican, black, Latino, Asian, white, red, purple, whatever.

Anyone care to have a discussion? Maybe I can change your mind and maybe you can help the cause

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america will never be a socialist state

He's got my vote

Fuck off cunt

>sage

obvious bait
newfags

>Bought and paid for politicians stand, clap, and chant USA! USA!
>Definitely a normal country. Definitely not a corrupt, immoral empire

As he should

yea it's fucking stupid, democrats should be disbanded

We'll see about that won't we?

Why? What's your problem with Bernie? I wasn't kidding, he is the only candidate this election, don't fall victim to the propaganda you see on Fox, cnn, MSNBC, washing post, nyt, and pretty much every other major "news" network

Okay child

Amen.

>democrats should be disbanded

Meanwhile the Republicans bend over for rich folks and hive them handouts and hand-jobs and you guys think they're doing wonders for you.

You guys are morons.

Disbanded? Probably. But not all. Republicans though, 100% of those fuckers should be hanged in public

Any reason to vote for Bernie in 2016 was a reason to vote for Trump. Now that the Donald is the incumbent there really isn't a reason for Bernie to run unless he wants to destroy the Democratic Party for real this time.

This is true, Republicans are the biggest threat to the country and to the world. Their retarded leader just brought back the cold war and they're happy about it

What? None of this makes any sense. Please explain

Yeah, all those other developed nations with better quality of life outcomes and lower violence can go fuck themselves! Also, let's ignore all those pesky facts about how higher taxes on the richest Americans historically payed for improving our quality of life by funding new social programs. All of that is just FAKE NEWS.

i like bernie and everything he stands for, but I also like the idea of the whole system burning down from the hubris and ignorance of the right

he's a deluded old fuck who knows nothing of politics, economics and how to do anything except pander to the lowest common denominator, he'll be a worse president than trump, enjoy becoming venezuela of the north, the south will surely rise up to take your place.

Bernie was the "fuck the establishment fuck the corporations fuck the status quo" candidate. So was Trump. Trump has more sane policies. In the off chance that your candidate would win, Trump would be the one to fuck the country up less.

Exactly. Billionaires pay the people the general population trusts to say otherwise, but the truth always comes forth

Yeah, we will.

I know what you mean. I feel like the best thing to happen would be if America just fell, but at the same time I'm trying to not work like a slave for the rest of my life so there's that

I've yet to see proof that socialism/communism leads to a higher quality of life.

Tax revenue to GDP has been steady for the last 70+ years. So the only thing liberals are unintentionally advocating for is a switch back to 1950s tax code.

>of the right
You don’t think everything happening is a rejection of the previous 8 years?

>implying the cold war ever left.

You can tell who wasn't born when the USSR collapsed.

Reagan pretty much ended that Cold War.
You’re bringing it back

no choice? America may flex it's France if there's not even bad choice.

bringing back the cold war by being on good terms with them? please, the only ones wanting the cold war back are the left, who keep blaming their fuckups on russians

So we agree. Trump isn’t bring back the Cold War. It’s the left. You’re proly not the user I replied to

>not driving business to china
>dismantling crony capitalism
yea, what a stupid idea

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>ignoring the 8 years of Obama and all his bullshit.

The democratic party is in shambles and they are too extreme. They have no cohesion. Bernie can't save them, and why should he? They threw him under the bus the second he challenged their annointed queen.

And btw, socialism doesn't work (No country in Europe is truly socialist, btw, I know that's hard for your limited brain to comprehend), only young people with nothing to their name and who are too lazy to work for things want it. Anyone who has worked hard for a while, or started a family, or runs their own business isn't a socialist.

Why do you think all those old fucks from the 1960s haven't gone and done all the shit they marched about at university back then? Because they eventually got money. Young people should be silenced until they have worked at least 10 years and started a family or business.

Your inexperience shows when you wear Che t-shirts and hold up hammer and sickle signs screaming for AOC to show her flapjack tits.

Bernie Sanders is a scam artist who has bought three houses with leftover campaign funds from 2016. He got his first actual paying job at the young age of 42 and that job was distributing welfare. If elected, Bernie Sanders would be 79 and very close to 80 when he took the oath of office. Bernie cowered from fear of two fat mulattoes in Seattle (vid related). Do we really want this person in charge of defense of the US and our allies? youtube.com/watch?v=BWOuCfdJYMM

Have your affirmed to yourself today how much of a faggot you are?

>he's a deluded old fuck who knows nothing of politics, economics and how to do anything except pander to the lowest common denominator
Not sure where you're getting this information from. Sanders has been widely respected for decades. Scholars have admired his work in universities around the world for years and years, well before his 2016 bid.
>he'll be a worse president than trump
Impossible
>enjoy becoming venezuela of the the north
I assume you say this because you're trying to make some socialist connection here, but what if I told you that Venezuela isn't a socialist country? Well it's not. It has socialist ideals like many countries on the planet, but it is not socialist in the traditional sense. Conservatives saw that Venezuela "fell" and called it a socialist state as a type of fear mongering. Venezuela is in a bad state right now because of capitalism. Not theirs, but ours. That's right guy, our capitalism brought the demise of Venezuela, just like loads of other countries, and now we blame them? It's like that Eric Andre show meme.
>the south will surely rise up and take your place
Idk what this means

meant for the guy you replied to, i'm tired

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>Blocks your path
Donald Trump is a candidate, as well.

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Bernie is crazy, but no worries. The electroral college isn’t going to elect someone who will die during their term.

Can you explain Bernie's plan to lower the national debt?

I’m tired too. And it’s only 9pm here

As a white male, I disagree with his policies on race and reparations.

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>Bernie was the "fuck the establishment fuck the corporations fuck the status quo" candidate. So was Trump
Oh no, oh no no no. Trump was none of these things. He bent over to receive a good corporate fucking faster than Obama. He's weak as fuck. He loves the status quo, the establishment loves him and he loves it, and he loves loves loves corporations and their money
>Trump has more sane policies
I realize you're just trolling now
>In the off chance that your candidate would win, Trump would be the one to fuck the country up less.
I think this is referring to Hillary? I hate Hillary, I'm glad she lost because I hate her so much. However, Trump basically already brought forward WW3 and I really doubt that would've happened with Hillary behind the desk. But still, that bitch deserved to lose

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pretty good trolling here, but it's obvious enough for me to call it though...

At some point your are going to realize that these old hippies are playing you. They went to college for eight years and were able to bankrupt student loans back then. Now they are shamelessly scraping up the last of the money in your student loan this semester. How long are you going to swallow bullshit from these people? Bernie Sanders was laughing at you when he bought his latest vacation home in Vermont.

>I've yet to see proof that socialism/communism leads to a higher quality of life.
Most European countries, Cuba under Castro rule, Canada. Is that enough?
>Tax revenue to GDP has been steady for the last 70+ years. So the only thing liberals are unintentionally advocating for is a switch back to 1950s tax code.
Who cares about the GDP. And it being steady for the past 70+ years isn't a good thing. And it's not necessarily the tax code, it's more the way they tax people. Currently most billionaires and billion dollar corporations pay little to no money in taxes and that's due to how bad American government is. We just let them get away with that. What progressives, not liberals because liberals are either sjw whales or gun-wielding racists (I can't tell anymore because the crowd changes every week), are pushing for is taxing the rich in a way where they won't be able to escape taxation

The cold war went away in the sense that it didn't seem like a reality anymore, now it's right around the corner

you can't be this stupid so i assume you're trolling

This cuck is going to run again?
Honestly he had my support up until he was cucked.
Pic related, black lives matter hijacked his speech.

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What’s it like being a white nigger?

Canada isn't socialist/communist and mentioning Cuba as an example country with a higher quality of life is pure trolling. Try again. rather live in soviet russian than fuckin cuba... holy shit that would suck asshole.

"Who cares about the GDP. And it being steady for the past 70+ years isn't a good thing. And it's not necessarily the tax code, it's more the way they tax people."
But that matters because the top 10% pay 87% of the taxes. Middle class and the poor paid more taxes in the 1950s than they do now. If you think the world is shitty now compared with then, then I think we both agree we should switch to policies of the 1950s, get rid of all the crap that was passed after the 1950s like the civil rights act, gun control and amnesty and other garbage. We don't need any legislation that was passed after 1959.

Reagan was a bitch who should've died when they shot him. And Trump/Republicans are very much bringing back the cold war.

All this blame on the left for not shutting up about "Russian collusion" is warranted, but who cares. It's been 3 years of this shitty nightmare. If you haven't realized that the establishment put Trump in office to capitalize on this shit show by now then I don't know how to help you.

Don't you see what's going on here? Trump pulling out of the cold war agreement is him telling Russia "hey, this shit's on boy. Get your rockets ready" and this whole deal with Venezuela is scary. Same thing that happened with Vietnam. The US is going to start yet another illegal proxy war with Russia via Venezuela but this time with more dangerous and expensive artillery. The rich will profit off this war like never before and countless innocent people will die, believing they died for a good cause

He has so much style, look at that solidarity. My man.

I hate it when people stand like that holding their hands in front of them and looking down

back to fucking /pol/ faggots

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You weren’t even alive for Reagan years. Stop reading memes as facts

Obviously fake quote. Is it hard being as stupid as you?

Denial. Nice.

I thought you faggots hated rich old white dudes

This old cunt will die before he's president fucking communist idiot

Fuck, I think you're too deep in republican bullshit comrade. I wish you well on your surfacing, remember to hold your breath

Which part confuses you

Obvious FBI infiltration. Grow up kid.

Have fun believing he'll ever have a chance or socialism in this country and helping him paying for his fourth house. :)

It already is

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I never said Canada was a socialist/communist country. The guy asked for evidence of socialism/communism leading to a higher quality of life. Canada is a great example. They have free healthcare (a communism), great public programs to help the poor, houseless, addicts, etc(socialism).

Cubans don't have a higher quality of life today but that's the US's fault, not theirs. Why is it that the US ruins countries and you idiots still blame those countries? And when communism ruled in Cuba the poor were fed, the literacy levels rose from 60% to 96% in less than a year, the sick were treated for free, people were given land as opposed to American corporations taking it for themselves.

Bernie isn’t a socialist just wants to nationalize a few industries mate

What? What does my birthdate have anything to do with anything? I read, you retard. I go to school, you fucking down syndrome victim. I don't know if you've heard but, come close for this one, people know what happened in the past because we keep records of everything. I know, hard to believe right?

I’m an ancap

I don’t vote for gun grabbers.

TRUMp 2020

TRUMP 2020


TRUMP 2020

TRUMP 2020

Trump 2020

I like your style

Canada has selectively socialized programs. But they're not socialist/communist countries.

Socialism/Communism doesn't work because of the incentive to innovate and work isn't there. Western Democracies that employ socialist elements are pushing the limits of how much people are willing to work before they throw in the towel.

Creating excessive social welfare programs only encourages the dumbest, most useless persons in society to breed and import more of their welfare sucking relatives into the country.

those eurotrash countries are going to collapse under the weight of the nigger class that is being imported.

This is either the most glorious bait of all time or the most profound misunderstanding of politics and history in all of /b

Reagan saved the free world from a peanut farmer who was in way over his head and did incredible damage during his time in office. Jimmy Carter is a good man but he was a horrible President.

I guess the old man needs another house paid for by the donations of gullible retards

"maybe i can change your mind and maybe you can help the cause" you dont have a cause. You have a figurehead that milks you like the moneycows you are. Even if he wasnt a hustler, hes such a weak willed bitch, he couldnt lead a fuckin horse to water, let alone a country. Remember him caving like the faggot he is to those chimp protesters back in the 2016 race? Yeah, so do I and everyone else in the world

Retard alert

Dude what are you even talking about

Didn't the US ruin a lot more countries than just Cuba? Didn't they ruin Japan and South Korea? How about germany? they got pretty hard fucked too when they helped collapse the Berlin wall and allowed all those people to intermingle between east and west germany.

Let's name all the countries the USA fucked up! how about Vietnam? We were there for like 15 years and left losers. I guess they never recovered after that.

weforum.org/agenda/2018/09/how-vietnam-became-an-economic-miracle/

After seeing how bernie handled those nigger bitches, I think he such a massive cuck that he'd be the kind of person who'd actually get ass-raped on TV and the liberal media would call the event "progressive" and "woke" for allowing former prison inmates to fuck him on live TV.

Bernie stands little chance. A lot more people were put off by his rabid fanbase of the last election than you give credit for, and there are so many blue candidates running on variations of his ideas from the last election that his vote will be diluted to a lower level than last season. I mean, shit, every candidate and their mother is trying to utilize the same constituent bodies to win the populous blue states and the more red swing states, which is why most of them seem so wishy-washy on their stance for divisive issues depending on who they are talking to.
I have most faith in Andrew Yang, but he is just as guilty of the prior statement as the rest, the main difference being that he doesn't seem to flaunt his ethnicity or gender as a reason to elect him in and of itself

So then you read he ended the Cold War. Stated disarmament, reunited Germany.....

He was Bernie sanders 1.0

>yang
>helping start up business ventures
>democrat
Who again? Andrew who?

google the quote.

Google is fake searches
Too left leaning

>Let's have a discussion so I can change your mind into believing what I believe
>Steven Crowder tactic
Using our own power against us? For shame, user.

Maybe if he acutely stood up for himself in that last election he would have won and kept my respect, but all his is to me now is a liar/failure and a cuck who bent his voters and himself over for Hillary. Fuck Bernie, id rather vote trump.

no

yeah faggot, thats what I thought. Ya got NOTHING to say about it

he basically DID allow himself to get assraped on TV when he went to the DNC and welcomed in Hillary Clinton. He got fucked around in the primaries, but instead of standing up about it, he cried like a bitch on camera and said jack shit

THAT was the guy who was gonna go to war? THAT was the man who was gonna lead us? THAT was the one to stand up to foreign hostility? That weak, spineless pussy who cant stand up to a couple she-nigs? That fucking faggot who sits and cries when he gets the primaries yanked out from under him? Yeah fuckin right, im sure.

Like Venezuela! Right guys!?..... Right?

>people were given land
>Cuba
Pick one. Unless by people you mean Castro and his buddies

redpill me?

he's a politician. that alone is enough to disqualifiy him from any form of trust and he offers nothing but same old, cheap platitudes.

a thread that should be on pol not b

>the guy supporting reparations for blacks is going to win the 2020 election
are you a moron?

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Keep voting for a sellout with two free mansions. While he gets the soft job of being a politician, you will be forced to work in a farmer's commune, after you country crashes due when everyone shifts to China's economic system after you enact modern monetary policy and make dollars out of thin air to fund for free stuff to implement green new deal.

politics is cool

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Yes, because anywhere that implements sweeping socialism becomes such a starving shithole that it usually crumbles andgets invaded by it's neighbors and becomes a different, non-socialist state.

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Yes, he is. This assortment of fucktards will soon include Jay "I can't run Washington but I want to run the US" Inslee. They are in it for the campaign shekels. They are ill-behaved dogs chasing cars. Every once in a while one of them catches a car and they don't know what to do with it (Alexandria Cortez).

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sooooooooooo this
/rhonda.l.schrader/lst=100000636039798%3A100000315915641%3A1550823917
is the bitch that is deleting everyones account just because you're not a berniebro.
Found her dumb ass...
call me crazy but she seems like she doesn't know what shes doing

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Hahahahahaha

If hillary became president we would of already been in open war with russia right now.

Get out of your hole of delusion you cucked faggot.

Bernie wants everyone to pay high taxes to pay for the socialist programs while he earns millions and lives in huge estates protected by security personnel paid for by your taxes. You cannot have a socialist government without tyranny. Don,t fall for his socialist shit. We all know he is a communist.

Bernie Sanders was only politically attractive because he was the only sane option in respect to Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump. But, the country decided to go 'Full Retard'.

Aside from his rapidly rising approval rating and 75% approved SOTU address that even had the straight jacket ladies jumping and cheering him on, right?

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It's almost as if your leaning or party are not the defining factors in your actions within politics, but tags applied based upon either your known record of behavior or your attempt to create a perceived notion of what you are like... It's almost as if people outside the party are using the popular Democrat tag in order to trick party pollers and receive more constituents based on the persecution of nearly every other party comparatively... Do you remember when and why the South "couldn't" elect a president? It's almost as if most of this has all happened before in multiple similar fashions which give the informed reader insight into where the results are heading...

No Refunds Bros

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>unironically believing Republicans are worse than Democrats
wew

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Cancer is the only thing that gets posted in 2020. Doesn't matter if you're OP, a faggot, an AIDS victim, user, a bot, whatever.

Anyone care to tell OP to kill himself? Maybe we can change his mind and he'll die and that'll help the cause. The cause of keeping /pol/ AIDS off Yea Forums.

>Bernie is the only candidate in the 2020 race
That's factually incorrect.

Buddy, you got the wrong door. /pol/'s two blocks down.

>Helping someone who wants to steal my money and give it to people who have done absolutely nothing to earn it

Yeah, sure, After he's elected I'll become a freeloader until he dies.

>implying either party gives a fuck about the people, unless it benefits them
KEK

>hurr durr bernie and trump are the same
but they’re not

sure, you can argue that bernie is bold and a little shameless, while trump is both of those things tuned up to 11. but they express that very differently, and in bernie’s case, he just waves shit away and starts talking about what he wants to do, millionaires and billionaires blah blah blah. trump on the other hand declares national emergencies and just flat out admits it was unnecessary at the announcement. not a good look. he deserves the criticism.

bernie is different because he’s trying to get something done, and it turns out there are a lot of somethings that are also pretty solid policy ideas. what’s trumps real agenda beyond what the gop has always wanted, like tax cuts? foreign policy is pretty much the only thing where he’s actually done some bizzare shit that matters. Whether it’s 2020 or 2024, whoever follows this president is gonna be in for a wild ride back down to earth.

the question we need to be thinking about is “who do we trust enough to follow trump?”

He is the only candidate not controlled by corporations. Does not take any super pac money which should be outlawed anyways.

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Nobody, Trump needs to declare himself president for life and shoot all the dissenters.

I am voting for him and I don't hate trump or his supporters, and neither does he. People just need to realize that mega corporations need to play by the same rules as everyone else

what happened with Venezuela

>The electroral college isn’t going to elect someone who will die during their term.
looks like someone forgot about FDR’s fourth term

If you keep taking money from people eventually you're going to run out and get couped by the military

Just look at what Trump has done
Without even mentioning the economy

>Trump legalized hemp
>Trump passed the First Step Act Criminal Justice Reform bill
>Trump banned bump stocks
>Both North and South Korea credit Trump with ending the Korean War
>A Work-in-progress, Trump has convinced North Korea to start dismantling their nuclear weapon facilities (2 already taken down)
>Trump withdrew from the TPP
>Trump convinced NATO to put in an additional 100 million dollars, saving the US that money
>Trump is the first president to propose a new bill to include paid leave for new mothers
>Trump ended US involvement in the Syrian War
>Trump is supporting Israel by moving our embassy to Jerusalem
>Trump got rid of the mandate for Obamacare, to stop FORCING people against their will to get healthcare insurance

>Trump is supporting Israel by moving our embassy to Jerusalem
good goy

lmao get real faggot, bernie aint winning. Thats why he even lost to Hitlery back in 2016. The only reason to why hes running again is to make you fucking retard losers who got his tattoo on your cunt, to feel a little bit better about that.

Isn't he trying out a bunch of focus-tested appeals to wamyn and anti-gun fags and shit?
I kinda liked Bernie in 2016 because he was primarily class-focused. If he had won and Trump had lost I would have voted for him. I dunno what he thinks he's doing trying to steal neoliberals' lunch.

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people who vote bernie want to watch america fall. they would take delight in it.

like its some sort of french revolution.

socialism is a stepping stone to communism.

power corrupts and freedoms will be trampled. because trendy hipsters want free healthcare and 'education' supplied by big daddy government.

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>Trump legalized hemp
who cares
>Trump passed the First Step Act Criminal Justice Reform bill
that's bad
>Trump banned bump stocks
that's bad
>Both North and South Korea credit Trump with ending the Korean War
that's good
>A Work-in-progress, Trump has convinced North Korea to start dismantling their nuclear weapon facilities (2 already taken down)
that's...eh, it's a mixed bag
>Trump withdrew from the TPP
that's good
>Trump convinced NATO to put in an additional 100 million dollars, saving the US that money
good but tbh I want to leave NATO
>Trump is the first president to propose a new bill to include paid leave for new mothers
that's good
>Trump ended US involvement in the Syrian War
that's good
>Trump is supporting Israel by moving our embassy to Jerusalem
Iran should turn Tel Aviv into glass
>Trump got rid of the mandate for Obamacare, to stop FORCING people against their will to get healthcare insurance
what we really need is a total overhaul of the healthcare system

also where the fuck is the
>W A L L
>A
>L
>L

We already overpay for healthcare and insurance, and we already give it to non-whites for free (on your and my dime, mind you).
What we need is national socialism but normal demsoc is literally not worse than what we already have.

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when you have no money and are homeless but Bernie knows your white male priveledge is priceless

Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Isn't that what we all wanted with Trump!
Guess this cucks vote is going to berni

>What we need is national socialism
Agreed. Gas the libs.

Bernie is communist faggot hope he loses again

Sanders is a good for nothing. Always has been.
He folded like a bitch to the democratic party that bent him over and fucked him.
He took it with out a word and endorsed the devil.
He is deluded a d would bankrupt the country with deadly ideas.

You know Bernie is actually a socialist though right? However he is a fucking Jew

Still laugh when I see him cucked by those fat sheboons who stole his mic.

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>Kike preaches about the 1% while being part of said 1%
every time

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Lmao I dont know if this was posted unironically or if he were just trying to get a laugh but good job

Keep donating, Bernie needs another beach house

I'll vote for him, although Tulsi isn't too far off in my book. With her foreign policy positions she'd make a good VP or SoD.

FDR implemented sweeping social programs, brought us out of the great depression, and saved capitalism. Social programs don't equate to socialism, sweatie.

Trump paid some lip service about being anti-establishment and anti-corporation, but his presidency has been anything but.

Only pro-war types and idiots (redundant, I know) fall for russian hysteria, but it's not unique to Trump. Look at the left and anyone that opposes the DNC approved candidates (Harris/Booker).

Damn, Varg is not aging well.

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Nah m8 Bill Weld is the way to go. I just can't buy into the whole socialism shit.

Beto O'Rourke gets my vote

How is the First Step Act, bad?

How is banning bump stocks bad?
If you want a gun that can shoot full auto, just buy one- don't mod a semi-auto gun.

Trump getting North Korea to not have nuclear weapons is a GOOD THING!

>good but tbh I want to leave NATO
Why would you want to leave NATO? So Russia can just rape Europe?

>Iran should turn Tel Aviv into glass
The entire middle east is a fucked situation, but rather than fall into the trap the last 2 presidents did,
Trump is smart and staying out of it. Jerusalem is the ONLY real democracy in the region, and our allies

>what we really need is a total overhaul of the healthcare system
I don't disagree, but this is a step in the right direction

also where the fuck is the
>W A L L
>A
>L
>L
Calm down, its being worked on.
Trump has only been in office for 2 years and done amazing work so far.

>Jerusalem is the ONLY real democracy
So what?

>Jerusalem is the ONLY real democracy in the region

Kek. What’s the capital of Jerusalem again user?

Zionist country chooses Jewish candidate no way

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Voting for trump again in 2020.

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goodest of goys

No matter who gets voted president in 2020, nothing good will come of it. This country is too divided to get anything done that well actually help. The presidency has just become a my side won vs. your loss lost. It's probably always been that way, but at least presidents in the past got shit done.

I'm going to vote for whatever candidate will do the least government theft. Fuck higher taxes and socialism. Bernie doesn't get to redistribute my paycheck because he has silly old man dreams about utopia and free shit.

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so... niggers?

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Get out of my country Jew.

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Trump literally just changed the taxes on the downlow. Lots of people fucked on taxes right now because he got the Treasury to change withholdings.

If you don't than then vote for Constitution

Of you vote Bernie over Warren you’re sexist

t. liberals

How? How is he the only candidate? Is trump not running again? What about all these people. They are confirmed to be running as well. Dont come here to both shill AND lie to people. It jsnt a democracy if there is only one candidate

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Come redpill these retards.

Better source.
ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2020
>all 570 something 2020 candidates
Get smart faggots

Funny how The NYT only show the republicans and democrats...sad really. But you media cucks wouldnt know what to do with write ins or other parties now a days anyway.

>Bernie Sanders is a scam artist who has bought three houses with leftover campaign funds from 2016
Starting off with a real whopper there. He owned a house... a very modest house in a very modest neighborhood. He lives a couple houses down from a friend of mine. His wife inherited a house, they sold it, and bought a lake house for 600k with the money from the other house. He owns a house in DC for work... pretty standard for a senator.

Being this much of a Idiot in life.

Socialism doesn't work and would never work in the US. Old man Bernie fouling all the youngsters that don't know two shots about proper history and how it's actually going to work.

He didn’t lose last time though, he sold out to the establishment he claimed to be against. Rofl

But yea, trying to focus on Bernie being "rich" really isn't going to work for you. Yea, he may be rich in comparison to you.... a loser. But he's worth maybe 2 million. Most of which came from his recent book deal.

>advocating for radical changes that youre this ignorant of
An expanded welfare state in a capitalist system is not socialism retard

>Bernie wants everyone to pay high taxes to pay for the socialist programs while he earns millions and lives in huge estates protected by security personnel paid for by your taxes. You cannot have a socialist government without tyranny. Don,t fall for his socialist shit. We all know he is a communist.
lol... so not accurate. His primary house is a shitty ranch worth like 300k. You'd pass by it and think nothing of it. I do often.

back to /pol/

SAGE
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Shouldnt that money be redistributed rather than in his bank account given his morals and beliefs?

>morals and beliefs
Lmfao you have to be pulling on my leg.
Money = everything.

Trying to be socialist by yourself doesn't work. I'm also pretty well off, and I'm all for increasing taxes on the wealthy.... but I'm not going to go it alone. I do donate a bit.

>bernie 2020
>voting matters goy
>oy vey socialism works

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A whole bunch of wanna be intellectual sophists ITT.

Is anybody in here over 16? The way you talk to each other reminds of fat autistic nerds arguing technicalities in tabletop game mechanics. God such a pitiful display of ego.

nah I an a big Bernie fan but there are other candidates who will promote at least some of his agenda so I'll vote for one of them

You can elect to pay more taxes if youd like, you know that right? You can also not take your tax return to allow more of your monwy to move through our government and social programs. The fact that you won't do something until its compulsory says something about how much all of it really means to you.

Socialist swine dont actually care, but they sure as hell pretend they do

this old man is a socialist.

His maximum desire will be to nationalise all industry, forcefully redistribute wealth from the top 10% back to the bottom 90%, and keep it that way. People will be assigned mandatory roles and there will be no involuntary unemployment.

At the risk of being patronising there are a few significant problems with this utopia that I need to point out for peace of mind.

First and foremost, the state has no profit motive unlike private companies. This means that in the case of some, not all but some industries, they will become incredibly inefficient - restricting supply of said product or service, and hiking the price of it or not having enough to distribute to all citizens. Mass starvation has historically been a manifestation of this. It happened in Soviet Russia, In Mau's China, and is happening in Venezuela.

Secondly, the top 10% are there for a reason. They have been lucky, yes. But if you give most citizens the lottery jackpot they end up wasting it all. By removing the money from the ones with the ability to make it you remove their incentive to work in high paying in society. Fundamentally you remove the concept of meritocracy which inevitably leads to a lack of innovation and therefore no more progress.

Thirdly, by having a mandatory role assigned the implication is that you will face capital punishment for neglecting to offer your labour to the state. You will be reimbursed, yes. However you will have to get up every day to go to the same job that you don't get a say in doing. Which links back to the inefficiency concept mentioned earlier. Do you know how difficult it is to force productive labour out of unhappy workers? Henry Ford couldn't do it despite his best efforts and an over encumbered state won't be able to either.

TL;DR, socialism DOESN'T WORK FOR THE MILLIONTH FUCKING TIME

Bitch... I donated over 50k last year. I'm willing to pay more, but it's not going to do shit if I'm the only one taking the hit.

Sadly I'm the same. He's too extreme for the US. I'd honestly vote for someone more moderate if it will get our two sides to chill the fuck out.

>current year or whatever
centrist politics are dead, and not just in USA. wake the fuck up son.

Wow... we're jumping right to being assigned careers? Quite a leap there....

I donated 90k, I'm better than you comrade. Give up your money as it is ill gotten gains made on the backs of the wotkers.

Regardless, this shows op is lying. Bernie is not the only candidate. Op is a fag.

AMERICA WILL NEVER BE SOCIALIST

Fuck off berniebro

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Bernie is a moron and libertarianism is a disease.

As I stated that will be part of his maximum wish under a socialist state. I'm not implying that his first decision as a president would be to enslave the nation, nor am I stating that any of what I wrote would be successfully achieved under him. I am outlining the mans motives.

Instead of gaslighting why don't you come up with a retort with substance

She's not running

is she running for the next tescos director?

sage

And Bernie isn't a commie socialist. He doesn't want to end capitalism. He wants to bring us into the modern world along with nations that have socialist programs like universal healthcare and free tuition.

I feel his response is perfectly valid. Assigned careers? What the hell!?!? Jo freedom to choose what you want to be, no ability to express your passion or pursue your interests. Then you have to look at eho gets to chose your career for you.

"Lets see here, this man is my friend so i will assign him a career as a movie star."

"I fucking hate this guy, lets force him to spend his life as a sewage excavator."

The idea of forced labor and assigned careers is so dystopian that the fact that any idiot would support that notion should result in said idiot being shot in the back of the head twice and his death ruled as a suicide

I gave Bernie $200 so he can afford an other 600k beach house. MATCH ME!!

Well has he ever mentioned that as being something he wants? or are you just relying on slippery slope arguments?

Filthy commie who’s campaign is based entirely on jealousy.

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I'm starting to think that you're a troll but there are societal jobs that are only filled because there are no other jobs available for that person's skillset. Consider an uneducated immigrant cleaning gas station toilets. They would obviously choose to be a desk jockey where they can keep their hands clean but are forced into a menial labour job.
>That doesn't change they will still have to take the jobs that they are able to so that they can afford to live.
That is correct, but to keep things socialist, the people who work harder jobs with longer hours for the return of payment will have to pay higher taxes so that the wealth is continually redistributed to mr/mrs cleaner or mr/mrs disabled because its 'not fair' that they don't have as good a life as mr/mrs lawyer.

Therefore there will be nobody taking the 'hard' jobs in society if there is no reward for educating themselves for that role. Everyone will want an easier job but the fact is that society demands hard jobs are done for things to function. The only answer to this? Assigned labour

he has routinely identified as a democratic socialist which is a person who wants a democratically chosen socialist state.

If you have ever taken the time to socialist literature you would see that the things that I have stated are very much an accurate inference into Bernie's desires.

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I identify as an orangutan... but that doesn't mean I want to eat fucking bananas all day long. I just like the swinging from branches bit and chill lifestyle. You're grasping for the scariest part of socialism to drive your argument.

>I identify as an orangutan... but that doesn't mean I want to eat fucking bananas all day long
how can you take yourself seriously and say something like that

inb4 stick to the point and don't straw man. You have made an extremely poor analogy to talk about this and I can't be arsed going down the rabbit hole with you

nasty nig nogs

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any democratic candidate. it literally doesn't matter, as long as it's not anyone from authoritarian crime network that is the gop.

>nasty nig nogs
>saves bbc hypno gif to his pc
you just outed yourself, m8.

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REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO SEED DISCORD AND DIVISION IN THE COUNTRY.

politico.com/story/2019/02/20/2020-candidates-social-media-attack-1176018

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yea i want some old dude who has never had a real job and is a socialist run the US.. great idea...

next thing you will say is we should have a bartender from the bronx who paid 50K for her seat to run the US.. amazon...

Fuck off you Socialist scum

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So which is it buddy? You samefagged yourself into a hypocritical stance. You want someone who has worked in politics? Or someone who hasn't? You seem to be a crying bitch either way.

Soviet Sanders, with his 3 houses. And no real income till he started being mayor and shit. I'm sure he would be great at managing money. Hillary will run again and steam roll him again anyways.

Everyone that votes for Bernie is poor change my mind

he got kicked out of his hippie commune because he didn't do any work. Poorfags think he'll actually do anything except diddle lolis all day if he's president.

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How would I prove it to you?

This level of trolling.

Poorfags are the ones blown away by the fact that he has 3 houses.

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>thinking Americans will vote in their own best interest

>white people can't be poor
>west virgina sighs

All the southern-backwoods ish states that vote Republican are poor except maybe Texas and Florida.

Republicans depend on the south staying racist, poor and stupid.

Maybe the little delegate-bird will come back?
Hahahahaha dumbass, nobody but a moron would shill politics on Yea Forums

Only morons don't see the inherent flaw in a pair of compromised parties who serve the same interests and engage in mock theater for the benefit of their voter blocks.
Burn both to the fucking ground, no other answer matters.

I just donated $69.69 to Bernie's campaign. Match me, bro. Match me! Feel the bern!!! Bernie needs a new beach house!!! Free college!!!!! Circumcisions for all!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=MvF_D4tVfYU

Funny enough they usually say it doesn't matter, or it's different, or some other shitty left-wing moral argument. Every argument is feelings and moral superiority on the left.

>corrupt country
>democrats should be "disbanded"
The whole system is corrupt. Each party needs to expel the establishment from power through voting for politicians that can't be bought by large international corporations.

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yep, fucking brainlet i know

IM BURNING UP IN HERE

he couldn't even beat Hilary
I hope he's the candidate
4 more years
libtard tears

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Well it doesn't matter. He's not rich by senator standards. He's got a shitty house here in Burlington, and he bought a house nearby on the lake from the sale of another house his wife inherited. (this shit does happen you know) And he's got a place in DC I believe for work.... also quite typical for senators. He's worth about 2 million, mostly from the book deal. (not for keeping all the donations like you dipshits actually believe) How's that for feelings?

Bernie 2020

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>thinking communism and socialism are the same thing

Kill yourself

no matter what any bernie supporter says in hopes of swaying my vote towards him, he is pro socialism and I am not ok with that under no circumstances. plus he's a democrat and as a black man, I refuse to ever vote for such a pos party.

obongo was one of the worst presidents we've ever had and caused more harm than good

>thinking faeces and shit are the same thing

Kill yourself

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Well that checked all the boxes.

>and as a black man
Lol too far man... ya done goofed.

>the cause
... Of ruining the country? No thanks! Europe let bullshit like Bernie's run rampant and now they are crumbling and in disrepair. Fuck you, I hope this is just usual Yea Forums tier bait, and not the actual beliefs on what should be a functional adult.

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This. Go ahead and put the old coot in the dem's ballot, you will guarantee Trump's second term.

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Calm your tits, sageboi

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I'm going to vote for him because he has the best Nixon impression.

Well you're a moron

shut up nigger

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You can easily find multiple videos I've been praising countries like Cuba and Venezuela. You're a goddamn idiot and so is he

I know exactly how Yea Forums feels about niggas, I've been here since 09 but my point on bernie still stands. if you think socialism isn't fucking dumb just look to Venezuela and if you want a "closer to home" example just look at the retard AOC shutting down amazon in ny

after Trump was begging for (((5g))) and (((6g))) I realised that both sides are corrupted and were all fucked.

>sold out to Hillary
>independents won't vote for him
>too old
>out of touch
>progressives won't vote for him
>socialist
>moderates and conservatives won't vote for him
It's over user, time to give up on the Bern

I will be voting for bernie as he is the strongest candidate. Im tired of working my minimum wage job and would be better with a $17 min wage. Itll be so awesome. AOC got my vote too. These rich assholes are so greedy living high that they forget the ppl that makes them the money. So pay up pigs.

bernies a fucking communist black list both of them

Once again the idiot responds. There are several other solutioms for this. Not being a socialist for one. Higher wages and better benefits for jobs no one wants to do. Basic concepts of supply and demand. It isnt hard as long as you ha e a brain, but you are a socialist afterall. If people are willing to do the jobs no one wants to, for a higher wage then those working easier jobs, they deserve to make more. Forced labor leads to famine and starvation and revolt which eventually leads to death of the ones forcing the labor and a restructure of society to not be a shithole socialist dystopia.

By allowing people to chose their careers and excell on their own, you drive the free market to pay more for jobs no one wants. This in turn allows people with no discernable skills to still make a decent living even though they are less capable than lawyers and doctors. That is ehy trade skills make so much.

We will always need burger flippers, but we have am excess of kids growing up to fill those positions. The adults that do turn burger flipping into a career and then whine about being poor are usually the socialists who want everything for free without having to work. If you are 40 amd flipping burgers at mcdonals, it is your own fault. You have had 40 years to do something with your life and have chosen not to. If you are so god damn lazy that you cannot put in the time and effort to develop a skill that will help you make something better of your life, that is your fault and yours alone and society should not pay the consequence of you inaction

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Socialism =/= communism you fucking autist learn the difference or better yet just kill yourself

communist countries: China, north Korea

socialist countries: Cuba, Venezuela

which countries are the worst economically and which are worse morally (even though technically they're all overall pretty shit)?

>voting for a communist version of Ron Paul