With makeup, push-up bras, filters, etc

With makeup, push-up bras, filters, etc.
How can you truly tell when a girl is attractive?

legit I've been like this girl is a 9, then after I see her without makeup 2/10

It's such bullshit.

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time to grow up

You're underage so I'll give you a small hint:

Every single asian chick you've ever seen is the product of makeup, not pure natural looks. Every. Single. One. It's just how asians (and in the case of pokimaine, hapas) are. If you date an asian chick you will constantly hear about how she "needs to put on her face" before even talking to you in the morning.

u get used to it

I'm 24 and have dated a bunch.

By grow up do you mean "stop being shallow" if so that's total bullshit.

like look at this chick, there's no way with clothes to tell if a girl has saggy as fuck tits and is a fat ass or has not tits what so ever

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You're a retard so I'll give you a small hint:

She's Moroccan

i mean grow up. junior

yea being shallow is cool, it makes me feel like a badass

actually look at her
you can see the make up and shit if you spend time with them in the daylight and longer than 10 minutes

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So just base it all off race?

That only solves half the problem if it even worked.
it's like in general woman don't give a fuck about lying about their appearance.

men don't have anything similar so wtf

I've had it with a white girl > filters and angles

Asian > make up

white and Mexican > makeup and clothes

how do men unironically believe that grooming yourself & making an effort to not look like dogshit = "trickery". im sorry but it sounds like you just dont find women attractive then user& you're certianly not mature enough for a relationship

>calling other people retarded when you don't even know that ethnic Moroccans are niggers

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official Yea Forums virgin thread here

physical attraction is important, I think it's bullshit that I'm like oh wow this girl is super hot, then she takes off her clothes and has no tits, or she takes off her makeup and looks like a man.

I was physically attracted to a fake version, and I'm not physically attracted to the real. So what I should just force myself to like them?

force yourself to grow up

Grooming != clothing that makes your body look a different shape or make up that makes your face look completely different

shut the fuck up

this kek

you see the girl without makeup before you date her, simple. you're clearly inexperienced with chicks if you think this isnt common.

Ahh disregarding physical attraction is needed to grow up. Got it.

disgusting in both pics

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She was never a 9. Fuck off