Fanboy wars and shitposting aside, what are their chances of sucess...

Fanboy wars and shitposting aside, what are their chances of sucess? Obviously there's a question of how much of their attendance is the same people flying out to multiple shows, but either way are they capable of growing their fanbase?

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shitposting aside. they will fare better than Impact or any outlaw promotin. I think they will have a sizeable overseas viewership.

They have money and are spending it, they will be fine

they'll be a respectable runner up to WWEs ridiculously over the top empire, like Impact/ROH if it were run by people that understand the business has changed

I think they'll be in business for a few years before essentially becoming NJPWs western wing, once wounds have healed

High.
Coming in hot, shiny new toy/meme status, image of fighting the "big evil corporation" making viewers feel like they are fighting for something by watching, fairly young roster, and being funded by a man with far more money than Vince.

If they do at least 500k consistently to start off I consider that alone a big success. desu just being number 2 in the US already is a success in my book.
I think the real question is how things are going to go 2 or 3 months after their TV debut.

As someone who has been defending and supporting AEW since the beginning because we need a secondary major league promotion, their current roster is very, very weak. WWE is doing everything in their power to stockpile and sign away everyone with a glimmer of talent or marketability to a mark contract.

AEW's greatest strength and the only way they might have a chance at winning is to use wrestlers signed to other promotions and to feature them on their TV. Their strategy should be to use WWE's monopoly against them; bring in talents from NJPW, ROH, IMPACT, AAA, CMLL, MLW and everywhere else. AEW should serve as a nucleus or a hub for inter-promotional matches to take place and AEW's goal should be to unite all the non-WWE companies and turn them against WWE.

AEW is already starting off on the right foot, by working with AAA, DDT, TJPW, STARDOM, OWE, and unofficially with MLW and IMPACT. Where it'll get tricky is trying to lock down the extremely vital NJPW relationship, as well as ROH, NWA and CMLL. If they can somehow find a way to lock down those relationships, then AEW carves enough of a niche out for itself to differentiate from WWE, since WWE would NEVER have ROH or IMPACT or NJPW or AAA guys just showing up.

I don't think AEW has a chance to do this on their own, they need to seriously put their pride and ego aside and play ball with other companies. They're already losing a ton of momentum and buzz from even a few months ago.

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If Impact and Roh can last this long, AEW will be alright. Do I think they’ll ever beat WWE? No not at all

>roster of old/failed wwe talent
>roster of manlet dweebs
>tranny first women champ
>already struggling to sell tickets in smaller venues

0%. The roster is thin and light on talent, and the interesting matchups will be run through quickly

for all the claims of being something new they are wwe-lite in almost every way

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>mjf vs brandon cutler first tv show

they literally don't have the roster to succeed

If the keep pandering to smarks: No chance in hell
If they pander to marks: 45%

I am VERY surprised they're opting for the live taping thing off the bat. It seems like a much safer option to pre tape for a while, booking 2 weeks worth of shows in a single date, learn what works and what doesn't.

Going right in with touring a live show means they are either incredibly confident in their abilities or very naive

AEW also needs to find a way to outbid WWE and NXT for key free agents. They signed L.A.X and that was a big win for them but they lost Santana Garrett, who would've been the perfect female babyface for their division and would've been perfect to build their women's division around and are very close to missing out on Scarlett Bordeaux and Killer Kross, who are leaning with WWE. I dislike how much AEW prioritized signing shitters like Marko Stunt and "The Dark Order" to full-time contracts but let Santana Garrett slip through.

The Joshi being featured and put over strong is another way AEW could differentiate themselves from WWE and they need to showcase their personalities some more, give Yuka Sakazaki or Hikaru Shida some videos; give the audience something to care about. Yuka and Shida are extremely marketable. AEW's tag team division is better than WWE's, but their women's division needs some serious work. Get Brandi and her diversity hires (Nyla Rose) the fuck out of there and let Kenny run the whole thing.

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Autism

Nyla was Kenny’s idea

Imagine the braps

I think they're going to come in with 500,000-750,000 viewers and decline from there because they don't have an Austin/Rock/Hogan or even a Cena which is why WWE is floundering. AEW wants to come in without the cache that WWE's glory years had that let them survive their innumerable faliures. At least they have young guys they can build on TV from scratch while they're young, unlike WWE with their roster where everyone is 30+.

Well then Kenny needs to stop with the bullshit and just create the strongest women's division possible. They have access, they have female superstars, they have Joshis. They had a lot of marketable Western girls in the Battle Royale (Priscilla Kelly, Shazza McKenzie, Penelope Ford, Tenille Dashwood) and they were all treated like shit to get Nyla Rose over.

Ideally, there'd only be 7 Joshis: Yuka Sakazaki, Hikaru Shida, Riho, Arisa Hoshiki, Miyu Yamashita, Shoko Nakajima and Reika Saiki. That way, the women's division isn't entirely Joshi and you have some Western shitters to throw into the mix, who will hopefully get better. I love Joshi, but no one's going to tune in to see a women's division that's entirely Japanese. If you can somehow cut a deal with Impact and bring the knockouts over, like Rosemary (which reunites Demon & Bunny), Tessa Blanchard and Taya Valkyrie, then you have an incredibly strong women's roster, which is by far their weakest division.

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If they can land Tessa when her contract with Impact is up, they’ll have the best women’s division

>Not realizing they are just putting the womens division on autopilot until they can sign some dime drawers.

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FUCKING BASED

It was definitely a huge mistake to push Nyla so hard, a monster heel is not a good way to start off a wrestling show, they should have built Nyla or Kong to spice up the Women’s division down the line. Hopefully they pull the trigger on Riho and hit the reset button on Nyla, the Joshis are marketable and if they go with Nyla as their first champ that would probably turn away casuals who have no prior knowledge of AEW

Everything aside, they will cement themselves as the alternative to WWE. Which is all they need to do, just be something different. I expect 500k-600k viewers. They have a tv deal and a substantial backing financially, which already makes them not an indy fed.

Nobody cares about joshits. They get the quietest reactions on the whole card

Seven waters down the novelty, just book Yuka like Rey Mysterio and they'll do fine.

Low. They have the same underlying problems TNA had. Tards in management, and, possibly worse, they're an "alternative" to WWE that's really just WWE Lite. Same comedy geek, YASSSS QUEEN, charity whoring bullshit, less actual flavor.

The latter problem COULD easily be changed, but the former problem is too stupid to make it happen.

>they lost Santana Garrett, who would've been the perfect female babyface for their division and would've been perfect to build their women's division
Fuck's sake, you stupid beta mark, they'd be better off just scrapping a women's division entirely, since it will NEVER, EVER draw a single fucking dime, and focus on trying to polish up their men's and tag team divisions.

Tag divisions don't draw dimes either. Especially with the young bucks leading them.

>Tag divisions don't draw dimes either.
Yes they do.
>Especially with the young bucks leading them.
Well there you have a point. Get rid of those faggots and spare no expense to bring in the Briscoes to cut promos about how Nyla is a man in a cheap wig.

At first, they'll do okay, but like others have said, they need to find a "Talent Relations" God and take everyone before E' does. The one thing they have is that they're different and have a shitton of money behind them, while also being on a network, but ... I don't think anything good is going to come from them. They have the top-guy in Kenny, and made him an afterthought. People are saying, "It's a story" but when you have the top free agent, you just book him on top. This is like E-tier booking of doing something convuluted when you could easily just give people what they want and come up with the story afterwards. Establish him as your best guy and then do whatever the fuck you want with him.

Nobody cares about women's wrestling, stop writing novels.

They'll be fine throughout the 6-12 month honeymoon phase, probably between 400-800K people.
The one thing is really making me worried is the depth as far as singles competitors. I think there's just abiut 40 male talents (38 I think) and 20 of them are in a tag team (and they seem pretty intent on not breaking up tag teams by the sound of it). Throw out the top 5 established guys in the company (Omega, Cody, Jericho, Pac and Moxley), where are the other solo acts in the company that might have a chance of breaking out?
>MJF (maybe somebody)
>Joey Janella (shitter)
>Sammy Guevera (panda hat,who)
>Jimmy Havok (shitter)
>Sonny Kiss (bad comedy act)
>CIMA (based, but still mostly a who)
>Nakazawa (bad comedy act)
>Darby Allin (maybe somebody)
>Peter Avilon (bad comedy act)
>Brandon Cutler (literal who jobber)
>Shawn Spears (why do you think WWE released him without a fight, nobody buys him as anything more than cannon fodder)
>Kip Sabian (who)
>Orange Cassidy (over gimmick, low ceiling)
>Wardlow (who)
There's a lot of boring shitters here, the kind that make people change the channel.

there is no one for kenny to face so it will get stale by next g1
pray njpw throws you a bone