I'm starting to shatter my smart mark workrate mentality. Who are the best big man wrestlers to watch past and/or present? And which big man wrestlers should I avoid watching?
I'm starting to shatter my smart mark workrate mentality...
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Big men wrestling isn't the opposite of workrate.
none of you faggots know what workrate even means
go watch some Vader matches
It's a made up term by Meltz Magoo. Its name is mud.
Does Hulk Hogan (201cm, 137kg) count as a big man?
just watch hogans 80s wwf title reign till the ultimate warroir feud that was kino big man wrestling at its finest.
Incorrect as always. Seeing that you brought up Meltzer for no reason, I must assume you're a Russofag.
I'll tell you who to not watch
Hogan in the 90s
Luger
Taker in 1998 (maybe the promos)
Big Show/The Giant
Ultimate Warrior
Viscera and all the wrestlers that are extremely overweight like him
Do you think "workrate" just means high speed/movez? Cause that not what workrate means. Vader in his prime was amazing when it came to workrate and he was far from a high flier.
Sting and Austin aren't big men retard.
What was wrong with 'Taker in '98? I thought his matches were fucking awesome. Hogan was also great in the '90s, imo.
Yes it is. Workrate is calculated as (number of moves x frequency of moves executed)/ match length
By who? Absolutely no one you fucking retard
Vader
Bam Bam Bigelow
Stan Hansen
WALTER
Yoko (Yes, Yoko was great)
Andre
If you want to go back in time, guys like Ernie Ladd and Gorilla Monsoon
Early Giant was really good in WCW
But Bryan Danielson is one of the best workrate guys ever and he had a 15 minute match where he was in a headlock the entire time
According to who?
Me.
Mind showing me the official statistical source that created that workrate formula?
Boss Man vs. Hogan in the blue cage is surprisingly good
Big Bawman was a really good worker when he was young and the injuries hadn't piled up yet.
>I don't like it because it disagrees with my views
Simp
no point in watching big man wrestling if you aren't going to watch "where the big boys play."
90's Hogan was amazing.
Where did I say I didn't like it? I'm simply asking for a source on your supposedly true definition. Guys like Zach Sabre Jr, Bryan Danielson, WALTER, Randy Savage, RIcky Steamboat, and Terry Funk were all considered to have great workrate despite working drastically different styles
look at this mark coming up with fake terms and statistics. what a fag.
Excuse me my guy, it's very easy to understand this scientifically proven formula. You must not have an IQ of even a 100 so bye for wasting my time guy
>lists guys like ZSJ, Macho man,Randy savage to prove his point
>not workrate
Yikes
>not workrate
what? I said those guys ALL had great workrate, even if I don't particularly like watching some of them(ZSJ in particular. He may be better now, but when I last saw him his stuff didn't look good and he just went from hold to hold with no rhyme or reason unlike a Dean Malenko, another great workrate guy)
lately ive been enjoying alot of 1970s andre the giant before he got really out of shape and was doing drop kicks and other impressive stuff . compared to his 1980s wwe run I see why he got the hype
No, you faggot. Russo is a bigger faggot than Magoo and you combined.
S what you're saying is that they're all still workrate heavy if you use the official formula so thanks for proving my point
But they all didn't use the formula. In fact, the later half worked a pretty slow style, which was how American Wrestling was done at the time
Savage and Steamboat were the flippy guys of the 80s by today's standards relative to 99% of kick punch guys on the roster
you're forgetting about the midwest formula, and the south eastern formula, the scandinavian work rate formula, not to mention all of the differing eastern european work rate forumulas you absolute blithering idiot. WHICH FUCKING "OFFICIAL" WORK RATE FORMULA ARE YOU REFERRING TOO, HOLY SHIT IT'S LIKE YOU'VE NEVER WATCHED WORK RATE WRESTLERS BEFORE.
Flippy and Workrate are basically opposites though. Nobody accuses the Young Bucks or Jack Evans of being Workrate guys despite their matches often just being
>Big Spot
>Walk to other part of ring
>Big Spot
>Walk to the ramp
>Simultaneous tope suicida spot
Clearly making up absurd term in an effort to cover as many non existent style in an attempt to troll now so I won't be entertaining bad students like yourself, if I can even call you that. Please find a better use of your time and I hope you can be successful one day channeling all these free time you have into something more useful. Bye guy
You are very confused and are just arguing sementics at this point to try and put merit to your argument because of certain fallacies you subscribe. Formulas are formulas and a tale as old as the sun rising every morning, it is irrefutable. In fact your green arrows only confirms that fact if you pluck in the variables into the official pro wrestling formula, you'll understand how the workrate formula got derived
LOL THIS GUY DOESN'T WATCH EASTERN EURO FEDS. WHAT A CASUAL FAGGOT.
Hogan vs Piper was literally better than the match they had at Wrestlemania. The entire feud was great, full of cutting promos by guys who could talk shit and not give a fuck. You think anyone today could, on the fly, spit out a line like
>"Your out here crying about how you're still the man while your kids are sitting at home in the dark eating cold Campbells soup, brother!"
I've consulted my longtime eastern european friend of 40+ years and researcher in the field of the local scene and he has confirmed, with his peers that ther is no varying difference of how workrate is calculated there, even accounting for variables such as time zone and latitudinal difference. The formula is universal, and i'm sorry if you're unwilling and almost in a state of denial that will convince you otherwise to change your mind and are just acting hostile for the sake of combating your boredom so i feel like if you channel that negative energy on something else, you could be successful but we will never know if you continue to waste something as fragile as time.
based professor gimmick poster working this simp into a fume LMAO
bigger than hbk and rollins.
i heard taker in 07 was based.
Then your "euro" friend is a mark and doesn't even watch eastern euro indies like me and my friend of 50+ years have been doing.
Based
boomers are so embarrassing man
I don't play fortnite so I don't care
care to extrapolate?
Can you extrapolate on what you would like to see extrapolated, friend?
huh? wut u mean?
care to extrapolate?
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>I'm beginning to develop brain damage and get worked by memes
huh?
care to extrapolate?
Goldberg and Nash are good
I like Sid as a character but as a wrestler he was very basic.
what?
woah, holyshit raped
??
get some context?
huh?
Were they great workers?
Sid vicious
Can you clarify?
If you don't care about workrate, then just watch any of the shows and get into the storylines. Pick a few characters you like. That's it. A good place to start is the mid to late 80s NWA and WWF
Non-work rate matches from that era are only watchable because of how insanely hot the crowds were for them. Imagine a modern crowd Corpus Christi reacting to them and they'd be exposed in seconds.
Nash
Watch current WWE programing if you don't care about workrate. It's just Vince in the back calling the same shitty match layout over and over and over every show.
What you're describing sounds like 2000 WCW Thunder. It was still better than today's manlet faggot shit due to its presentation, characters and storylines.
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This.
Watching 90s and 80s WWF matches cold will leave a lot to be desired. I love how in the attitude era every set up to a spot was an irish whip
Vince is currently burying every manlet right now so not sure what your issue is
>currently
>revival
>chad gable
>ricochet
>kofi
>seth
no wtf are you talking about
Gable is booked like a geek
Ricochet is now in a program with Mike Bennett
Kofi is about to get squashed by Lesnar
Seth is about to get squashed by Spoopy Man
Revival got a pass because they threatened to quit and Vince respected the balls to do that
In the meantime those guys are all over tv, holding Championships, getting big story lines and making shit BORING
seth isn't a manlet though.
extrapolate
huh?
care to explain?
Hogan VS Muta was based though
Also Big Show VS Kane in 2006 was one of the most hilarious catch wrestling matches of all time
wut?
>Austin
>big man wrestler
>"big"
WHAT?
explain it to me
care to extrapolate?
wat u mean?
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can you explain further?
huh wut u mean
A big man's wrestler is Kevin Nash, none of those vanilla midgets.
you tell me
70s Hogan.
Not 2000s Hogan. He's only 6-4
confused as to what you are getting at
exactly!?1? huh!??
Andre the giant vs Big Otto Wanz
Baron Corbin is the future which means the future is based
Is Scott Hall a big man? If so, he's the best big man worker in 25+ years.
She is basically a walking billboard 4 sexualz. Y'all need to have sex.
>Taker in 1998
He was great in 98 up until SummerSlam
Big cass
The Wall v BBB WCW hardcore title match a GOAT
I’d say so