*puts on a ***1/2 match with less than 4 years of combined experience in your path*

*puts on a ***1/2 match with less than 4 years of combined experience in your path*

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gook shit LMAO

FFFUCCKKJ I couldn't handle all these THICCness

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Fredricks is already making a fan out of me. God damn the young lion program does so good

That doesn't sound notable. Are you retarded, meant to put one star more or am I missing a joke here?

They’re absolute amateurs and they put up a match better than most matches by wrestlers with 10+ years of experience

If ***1/2 for an opening match featuring two rookies isn't something to take note of, you've probably fallen for the ratings jew.

When I see 3 1/2 im think solid match no one fucked up anything in but not something special either. What I don't understand is why would it be surprising 2 guys with less than 4 years experience combined (so lets say just under 2 years each) would be able to do that after 2 years if they have any talent?

I bet no one in the PC could even do a match half as good as that because they only know forward rolls from the last four weeks

To be fair Fredricks worked the indies for a solid two years before getting into the dojo.

That seems like a very mechanistic way to judge wrestling. But whatever it is, ***1/2 just means a perfectly fun match to me.

It's tough to say because WWE hides its trainees until the eleventh hour. Like, that big Chinese fella Boa, they signed him in 2016, and he just started to show up on NXT TV in the last couple of months, and he's the drizzling shits still. Then you have guys like Montez Ford who had zero wrestling experience get into the PC circa 2013 and less than two years later he was one of the biggest athletic standouts in the roster.

Because most people are green shitters even after a few years, and while having a match as good as these two had isn't a miracle, it's a clear sign they do have talent and that there is hope for the future.

to be fair i'd imagine you need to have some athleticism to even be considered to be a young lion, and i don't know these guys but typically some level of an actual amateur wrestling or grappling background. Frankly, it wouldn't be ridiculous for me to believe 2 guys that never even stepped in a ring before but were longtime wrestling fans (who understood how to chain wrestle and sell being hurt) with some amateur experience could probably at least put on a better match than say, WWE women possibly ever could. And retards give those talentless thots 3+ stars all the time.

There are tons of wrestlers who watch a shit ton of wrestling and have some sort of grappling background AND are still simps in the ring though.
It's the little touches in the Uemura vs. Connors match that made it good, like how Uemura struggled to push himself up when he was in a Boston Crab. But when he finally did, the crowd reacted nicely to it. Call it psychology or whatever you want, being able to get a crowd engaged in such a short and simple match just shows how good they already are.

>Call it psychology or whatever you want, being able to get a crowd engaged in such a short and simple match just shows how good they already are.
i don't disagree with you, dude on the left looks like a fucking stud especially, i think in a few years he'll do big things in Japworld if he's as good as people say and as he looks. The reason I quoted that portion, and I haven't seen the match, but I'd imagine they actually sold moves for it. Half the problems in wrestling where there is no heat whatsoever anymore comes down to that. Even the fat oafs on mid 80s jobber shows would get the crowd into it by selling a little bit. Seems lost sometimes especially watching indyshit post 2000ish

Connors reminds me so much of Benoit it's almost sad

This user gets it

I'll recommend you to watch it then. It's the very first match of the show.
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I totally get what you mean by post-2000 indyshit. I have a feeling wrestling video games played a huge role in inspiring that style because in games, it's just moves after moves.
Uemura has a lot of potential but Connors is no slouch either. Like what says, you can see a lot of Benoit in him.

>I have a feeling wrestling video games played a huge role in inspiring that style because in games, it's just moves after moves.
i wouldn't doubt it played a part. i mean, i can see kids that are now flippy wrestlers spamming that shit. i put it more on ECW honestly, and people like Flair pinning it on spots like Foley being thrown from the cell aren't wrong either. It all has to escalate once the crowd has seen this shit over and over and over again in that way. A piledriver used to often finish a match in the 80s and before. Now you have to murder a manlet jobber and throw him through 3 tables and powerbomb him into a stack of chairs to get a near fall. It's ridiculous. And fuck, sometimes I even like it but it really just served to make wrestling worse overall.
And thanks i'll have to check it out

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That's probably just a testament to Montez Ford himself who gets it immediately and learns quick how to work.

and another thought i think might tie in... the rise of MMA seemed to correlate a good bit with the rise in manlets and flippyshit in wrestling, and the decline in interest. Popularity is leveling off for it at the moment. But still, think MMA took a lot of talent from pro wrestling, mostly people we probably never heard of since they likely got KTFO early on and gave it up.