Why does he not get more shit for legit just stopping selling...

Thank you agreeable fren

No, I'd just like them to remember they're hurt after doing their moves. Ibushi's VERY robotic. Even Ospreay keeps it going until his opponent stops targeting his leg where he gets a bit forgetful but that's forgivable because by that point the match has progressed past it. Ibushi is more forgetful more often.
He's top-tier in absolutely every other regard, just this one he falters. I also think he could choose his offense better because a few times in the G1 finals it felt the stuff he did was way to intense/active after a heat period for Jay.

I get it in Japan because his character is like a shounen protag. He gets beaten up and then reaches his next powerlevel and wins. He also gets a new finish with every new powerlevel.
But people like Meltzer who obviously don't understand that have no excuse for not calling it out. Its also very out of place in the new japan presentation of "real sports".

That’s the point of selling you fucking mong.

I mean that description kind of applies to basically every babyface ever, does it not? They get beat up until they get a surge of power and win. Just because he's a pretty boy and has a kind of shounen mentality doesn't excuse that he's lazy on that front.

His first move after having his leg hit by a chair and being in the TTO for 5 minutes was a fucking backflip kick. That's not something one of the greatest seller in the business would do.

No it really doesn't. The specifics of achieving new power via adversity are different from the wwe/super hero comic book trope of the hero overcoming adversity. What Tanahashi does is the superhero shit, the John Cena shit. Ibushi is more Naruto than superman.
Stuff like that worked in DDT because of their presentation, but in New Japan you have a lot less creative freedom because the show is presented as though it's 100% real which is why they only have like 8 different matches in the company as a whole. He's a weird fit their.

Ibushi is one of the very few wrestlers that can make people believe that he is seriously injured,watch his match against Naito at Dominion to see what i mean.

He sold his leg for half the match perfectly,then he actually had to pull his usual moves off but he tried to do it while still limping and looking like he was in pain

Trying to have a sport like presentation doesn't literally mean that the wrestlers try to put up realistic looking fights like in MMA,New Japan already tried that and it failed miserably,people want long matches with unpredictable finishers and that pretty much implies that at some point a wrestler will stop pretending to be hurt and actually do something.

Ibushi was legit injured in the G1, he didn’t need to sell, he was fighting through it

I get all that in theory but functionally as a viewer it's effectively a similar watch and the manner of babyface performance is presented similarly.
Were it a true-to-source Shounen depiction of achieving new heights he'd absolutely jannetty the rest of the roster within the year by accordance of the gimmick's escalation, so it defaults to the wrestling presentation of babyface overcoming and finding strength when he needs it.
Also none of this really even applies to his lack of selling. Overcoming or surmounting opposition aside he still forgets to sell.

>He sold his leg for half the match perfectly,then he actually had to pull his usual moves off but he tried to do it while still limping and looking like he was in pain
We didn't see the same match then, Maybe he was limping in the first 5 minutes, I don't remember but the rest of the match he was running just fine.

>He sold his leg for half the match perfectly,then he actually had to pull his usual moves off but he tried to do it while still limping and looking like he was in pain

No he didn't. He did that here and there but nowhere consistently, nor did he at least try to perceive any physical struggle in doing his shtick.

>Trying to have a sport like presentation doesn't literally mean that the wrestlers try to put up realistic looking fights
What are you shiting on about, mate?
Presentation has to do with how it's films, how it's set up and the narratives being put forward. The entire concept of new japan is that they are the best wrestlers and the top guy has the style which can beat all other styles, as part of that he has to always do his best and uphold the integrity of all wrestling as part of his character. It has always been that way in New Japan. Selling is a big part of that, proper selling all the way through. You don't see Tanahashi stop selling completely after selling hard for the entire match. The styles of the match and how they mesh together is and always has been the primary narrative of a new japan match and suddenly not selling completely kills that narrative.
I've been a big Ibushi fan for over ten years, but the way he drops selling in the Peak of a match in New Japan completely breaks the format of their shows.
Yeah, it is a pretty minor difference, but it's a difference all the same in that the increase power level always comes with them suddenly being absolutely fine and demolishing their opponent after being nearly dead just beforehand. He should just stop doing it and start selling properly. The shounen shit usually builds over entire arcs of them gradually getting beaten up and losing every so often, like it can be over the course of years of publication so the escalation isn't so steep.
I don't know if anyone can make Ibushi stop being Monkey D Luffy and start being Spiderman instead. Spiderman was always a top tier seller.

I bet you think wrestlers should continue selling chops or armbars all the match,since forever wrestlers often stopped giving a shit about selling when they had to take the offense,Ibushi at least trying to look in pain is already a step ahead of them.
Also protip:hurting=/=being crippled

Lel I think it was in his match with Jay White, he was acting like his leg hurt and a second later he does a perfect deadlift suplex.

>You don't see Tanahashi stop selling completely after selling hard for the entire match.

He once did after 20 minutes of ZSJ going at both of his legs and when he had to stand up and do his movez,by your reasoning that's no selling even though he was limping.

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No its not you autist. Willing yourself to keep going is part of the ace character and makes sense. Have you never gotten hurt but kept going? It happens, but you'll still show signs of injury.

>Have you never gotten hurt but kept going? It happens, but you'll still show signs of injury.

The same thing that Ibushi does and he is now booked more strong than Tanahashi.

I don't care I just want to touch his abs

Nah, he completely stops selling and just jumps around. He has always done that, it got him over in DDT. But it doesn't make sense in New Japan.

How do you even operate a computer?

plz understand

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>he completely stops selling

Fighting spirit is not something that is exclusive to him,as i previously said Tanahashi does the same exact thing here and there like all other New Japan wrestlers

>b-b-b-but he's the Ace

Ibushi is now officially more pushed than Tanahashi and will be until the day the Ace retires,he's a way better athlete and at this point a better seller,you don't see Tanahashi risking his neck to make other people moves look great anymore,in fact he can barely take any moves.
And let's be honest,Okada is the actual Ace.

you cant show me one example of this in the last year

Are you braindead? Tanahashi doesn't suddenly stop selling as if he magically recovered, he pushes through and visibly sells that like every NJPW top guy ever. Read the posts you reply to before spouting nonsense ya mark. I've been watching both those guys a lot longer than you have.

We can't show you something you don't watch now go eat your twinkies you fat fuck

I already covered what you're saying in the OP
> I know to an extent you have to no-sell to finish a match
Ibushi doesn't even try to look in pain.

>ta
G1 Final

I have watched and rated every NJPW singles match this year. COPE!

>I have watched and rated every NJPW singles match this year
Have sex

you didnt watch the match did you?

>Tanahashi doesn't suddenly stop selling as if he magically recovered

Keep avoiding the truth,i already gave you one example

>Ibushi doesn't even try to look in pain

Can't be any more wrong,you only watched the G1 finals right?

ive had sex twice, cope harder bro!

Stop lying you can't even see your dick behind all that fat

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It's not "fighting spirit". It's being lazy. There are other guys in NJPW who sell their bursts of offense as adrenaline rushes better than Ibushi manages to. Ibushi just has lackadaisical selling and is notably more flippant in how he remembers to convey pain than others at his level.

You're an idiot. Stop asking me to repost things I already explained.

oh my god what a seethe! thats not even me! a random pic of some husky guy from some random wrestling show, oh yeah you sure got me bro!

We know that's you, you shouldn't have posted the picture of Tam on the red corner you took.

Tam? Literally who?

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He's over.

You don't know who that is but you still took a picture of her

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Shitlord BTFO

I mean that's nice but it's really just a flowery way of guising the falsity of wrestling and doesn't change Ibushi's lack of selling.

false flagging