Who is legitimately the WOAT? Putting aside memes, personal hate, etc...

Enzo and Cass were both pretty fucking bad.

agent 4'7
nigga burned all bridges because hes a fucking mark for himself

New Jack

Survivor Jenna

incels

Goldberg. Can't take two steps without hurting himself or others.

The Great Khali

Enzo could at least cut promos. You might be right about Cass but at least he's Gonzalez tier shit

Would be cool to find the worst male wrestler with a normal body who got a decent push in a big company.

Hogan rentavillains, Khali, and barely trained T&A womeme like Jackie Gayda are too obvious

Dolph Ziggler. He's so bad Amy Schumer broke up with him.

He's certainly the most successful but least talented wrestler I can think of. Couldn't work for shit and couldn't cut a promo to save his life. Even Hogan could at least cut some pretty awesome coke-fueled promos in the day.

Nathan Jones

Shibata
People are acting like he’s a fucking cripple when he was clearly roided the fuck out doing dropkicks a few weeks ago.

Tamina. Can't talk, can't do basic holds, she's a danger to herself and others, her finisher is shit, her ring gear is shit, she's old, she's not hot, she's never drawn a single dime, and the reason she got hired was because of her murderer of a dad. She is the worst of all time.

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>Agent 4'7"

my fucking sides

This. These 2 shitters then have the nerve to act like major league superstars even after several ass beatings

you can stop samefagging now

can't argue with this tbq ding-dong diddly h

have sex

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Kevin Nash.

that's on Naomi for not being able to do a fucking flip.

yes while you remain a virgin incel LMAO

He had catchphrases, I'm not sure that's the same thing. When he wasn't doing one very specific thing, his promos were long, rambling and nonsensical.

Remember that time on SmackDown all the women were in the ring, Charlotte said a line and then Tamina just said the exact same line, verbatim?

Tamina deserves the death penalty her father never got

Probably one of the Divas

She only had one match, and she didn't hurt anyone doing it. Nia Jax was FAR worse. She was a wrestler for years, never got beyond Day 1 Wrestling School bad, never lost any fucking weight, never built any conditioning, and managed to damn near kill half the people she worked with by fucking up simple shit.

That is at least 50% on Naomi. Tamina thought they were doing a backdrop, and Naomi clearly thought they were doing something else. And Nia is all the things you said about Tamina, only to a greater and fatter extent.

Would love to take a stink face from Nia though

Nia Jax is probably the Worst of the Last Ten Years, and possibly 21st century, but you really forget how bad people used to be. Her garbage is made more severe by all the good shit around it these days.

Hard to tell, to me it looks like Tamina let go a little early. Didn't follow through and then got scared. Remember the idea is to safely but believably simulate a fight or wrestling match, not to perform clean gymnastic spots.

Eva Marie

Erik Watts got a way bigger push than he ever deserved just because of his daddy

Came in here to post this. True boomers know that nobody was worse than Erik.

Almost always, the WOAT list could've littered with legacy wrestlers, Wrestling With Wregret is an autistic hack but his video on 2nd and 3rd generation wrestlers was pretty good

If you account the proportion of how much the company emphasized pushed them in relation to their lack of drawing power then it's HBK unironically

Makes sense that the Kliq doesn't have a single draw (not even kidding)

The Great Khali

In wrestling it is important to be able to be competent in ring, competent on the mic, competent in getting your character across or at the very least have a marketable look that can be profited from.

Khali had none of these, absolutly none and was given a contract.

Even the absolute worst of divas had value in being someone's fap bait.

>(not even kidding)
You're right. Every member of that group is either an anti-draw or a none-impact. The WOAT "stable".
Hall could've MAYBE been a draw for them but he legit didn't have a clue and couldn't gain the ego necessary to do anything but be a midcarder.

Jackie Gaydar

Hall could have been bigger but he was more into alcohol and drugs than most of the locker rooms since he wasn't planning to be unfaithful to his girl back home, if he was doing some fucking and not hitting his systems so hard he might have gotten to the world title picture when he came back to the fed

WOAT Stable
The League of Nations exists

LoN never had any impact whatsoever tho.
No impact > Negative impact. What's worse for the company, an inoffensive midcarder or someone who worked on top and chased away fans?

Nia Jax is offensively bad. Can't cut a promo, has consistently hurt other women she's been in the ring, can't wrestle for shit and she couldn't even draw a dime pandering to SJWs with her fat acceptance storyline.

Honestly?
I thought about it and i determined it was Jack Swagger

Seethe Tarpins

Giant Gonzalez, the guy makes Khali look like Kurt Angle

Nia Jax

Khali was good enough before WWE though, but by the time he debuted his knees were dead
I guess WOAT would be someone like Kenzo Suzuki

Nia is at least fat which is a quality on to itself in wrestling

I feel Ahmed Johnson should be in this discussion.

Nice trips but he BLACKED prime Sunny so I give him the pass for being a shitter and getting fat

>Khali was good enough before WWE though
no he wasn't and didn't he kill some dude in training?

You better shut up or ill make you look like Ellsworth.

Giant Silva was pretty fucking bad

That was afterwards and the reason the man died in training was because he wasn't properly trained so when Khali (he was a special guest for a session I think) went for a standing splash all his size just came down on a poor dude that didn't know how to take that move

She actually had 1 (one) good match with ronda where I guess they tried to copy the Umaga/Cena last man standing a little.

Dropping random names from the 2000s undercard: sure she's much worse than Maven and O'Haire, is she much worse than Stasiak or Nowinski

Hunter, never has someone accomplished so much with so little talent or merit.

Ronny Reis

He started with one of the worst gimmicks of all time as the Yeti, then was a member of Raven's flock. Despite being 7 '1 and looking monstrous in size he never improved beyond shit jobber status in WCW. He was out of televised American pro wrestling within 3 years.

He was utter shit and I think he still counts as mainstream enough being on Nitro during the heyday of WCW and being playable in at least 2 videogames.

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Definitely in the conversation. Dude got a massive push early getting the IC title, never improved, got fat, and was out of the business in any way that mattered in under 5 years.

just because people say things you dont like doesnt mean its one person you low IQ peasant

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Sasha Banks

>can’t wrestle and has injured others
>can’t talk
>has the worst look with that terrible fucking wig

Yeah, Reese must be the most jobbed out giant in history. For no bookers to see anything in him despite his height says a lot.

Khali sold the poo audience which was important at the time of WWE trying to become an international company

Raja Lion.
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I agree on Dolph. Dykstra should have gotten the push.
Hogan was a good worker, Jack.

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Goldberg bro every time bro I'm telling you Goldberg what are you doing bro

Goldberg had the look and body language, top 3 all time in both categories. He made it all seem real back in 97-99. Like he was legitimately going to tear a mother fucker apart. No one cared about his mic work or actual skills. Dude was still over.

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Nobody who holds the strap during the most highly rated time in pro wrestling can be considered the WOAT. That's just stupid.

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One of those vanilla mastodons that Vince pushed in the early 2000s - Nathan Jones or Luther Reigns.

Couldn't talk, couldn't work, could barely even look threatening and just happened to be lucky enough to find a roid stash.

In terms of guys who got major pushes, Lex Luger has to be up there for the WOAT - guy had nothing going for him besides a look, kind of like the guys I already mentioned.

He was horrible, but he never wanted to be a wrestler and was kinda forced into it.

>Luther Reigns
At least we got the classic line "GIMME DEM PEAS, I'VE HAD THOSE BEFORE" from this shitter.

>Tamina
Bingo

Has anyone said Mongo yet?

Wasn't a real wrestler.

Mike Boyette

Mike Von Erich

>WOAT
Wokest Of All Time?

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The real answer is some indy shitter nobody has heard of.
For me personally, Rosa Mendes. Couldn't wrestle, not charismatic enough to be a valet or manager, couldn't hack it as an interviewer. I know waifufagging always ends up with "X is fucking someone in creative" but she has to be one that legitimately was. I have no idea how that chick was able to work there for a decade otherwise.

Easily Sasha banks. All she does is whine and botch. She's got all the whiny salty bitchness of 90s hbk with in ring ability barely on par with Kelly Kelly.

Also I bet if you had this thread a year or two ago, half the answers would've been Roman reigns from all the bandwagon haters

>>Sid

He reminded Hogan so they tried to push him to the moon in every company he walked into but he couldnt wrestle couldnt cut a promo and would periodically quit to play hide n seek or softball or some faggot shit

>>Goldberg

Ok he hit a nerve and was booked to cover his weaknesses in WCW. He shouldnt have been any worse than that but a combination of bad booking thinking he was better in the ring than he actually was and never actually improving in the ring because he actually wrestled very little hurt him in the long run

>>Ultimate Warrior

Another guy that was successful when booked around his weaknesses but in the long run couldnt hold up. The fact that was slightly unhinged but couldnt fight for shit also got his ass beat when he tried to throw his weight around with guys like Andre and Rick Rude

>>Reign of Terror HHH

Separate from the rest of his career this particular run was one of the worst in wrestling history and just so happened to line up with the pup culture phenom of the 90s dying. Lets look at the highlights. Stone Cold turns chicken-shit heel to join with Vince and HHH so the Bosses son could ride Austins coat-tails and seem like a big deal. He then beats as a heel beats everyone with any potential star power like Booker Jericho or RVD to make himself look good. His workout buddies then get promoted to top of the card even though one is a second rate Lesnar knock-off preacher mid-carder and the other only wins the title so they can take it off Benoit AND knock Brock out as the youngest champ then hand it back to Trips

>hating Sid
"Muh workrate" smark detected. Nigga never needed to wrestle or drop a great promo if his charisma and presence are top tier. You don't need to go out and do 5 star matches every time, if people are paying money just to see you powerbomb a motherfucker.

He didnt have anything. He looked big and had Hogan hair so every moron booker thought they found Vinces winning formula back in the day when fans generally went with what was put on TV. Hell they booked El Gigante as an unstoppable monster and people cheered his sideshow act in WCW and he was only slightly worse than Sid

>Awful in ring
>Shit look, didn’t have the same intimidation factor as Andre since he looked like a cat on stilts
>Couldn’t talk
>Couldn’t sell to save a life
>Worst ring gear of all time

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Orton post-legend killer

>He has only 2 moves left nowadays: The RKO and that back suplex where he tosses the fuck out of someone onto a table
>Doesn't even punt anyone anymore
>Dislocates his shoulder by banging the mat while doing his taunt
>Can't promo
>At one point as a face all pops only came from women who thought he was hot
>His matches, even as a face, just consist of rest holds
>Has made the rope-hung DDT go from a natural-looking spot in a match to VINTAGE ORTON
>Despite all of this, is 3 world title reigns away from Ric Flair

Worst part is people have to root for him nowadays because the only alternate is Kofi

I couldn’t tell if Charlotte accidentally stole her line and Tamina was like NO THATS MY LINE, IM SAYING IT NOW, or she totally forgot her line and the easiest thing in her mind was to just repeat what Charlotte said

Nowinski was Chris Masters, right? He may have been awkward as fuck while working, but he was at least in shape and could kind of cut a promo. Nia is a 100% irredeemable failure at every constituent part of being a pro wrestler.

>No one cared about his mic work or actual skills.

His mic work was actually all right. I think it was Manlet Bryan Alvarex that said Goldberg was amazing because he looked completely out of control in the ring. Probably because he was legitimately struggling to keep it together and not fling himself or some poor jobber into the fifth row. His lack of polish was actually a draw.

You can't knock Sid's look man. With that height and that hair and that body he literally looked like fucking Samson. I even think his ring work isn't bad for a guy his size, his shit always looked solid. Not the greatest of all time or anything but there are way worse big guys that not only didn't have his look but were worse in the ring.

>Sid
>Great promo

He was a walking Not Top Ten promo "highlight" reel. It may have been the only part of him that drew literally anything, with people tuning in to free TV to see what stupid ass thing he'd say next.

Miz

Nowinski wasn't terrible and pretty sure he retired at like age 25 due to injury so bit harsh to call him the WOAT. He may have gotten good.