Is the best proof that in-ring skill doesn't draw a single fucking dime in the US

>Shawn vs. Bret did a bigger buyrate than Austin vs. Bret
What did the numbers mean by this?

Austin Bret didn't headline the card retard.

Wrestlemania 13 did a shitty buyrate because Shawn wasn't on it

lol shawnetty couldn't even sell out arenas in his own home tome

sold more tickets than bret

Cope. Bret drew minus 4.4 million. Shawn drew minus 6.5 million. Bret sold out in Canada. Shawn couldn't sell out his home town. The biggest anti-dimes in the history of the WWE/F is Shawn "Jannetty" Michaels. The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for (You).

the most respected historian in wrestling would beg to differ
clean ya turban
youtube.com/watch?v=TfnpLzGMnFE

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>couldn't even sell out arenas in his own home tome
He has the Highest attendance for a Royal Rumble PPV at 60,000+ in the Alamodome.

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>meltzer
>respected
The top comment in that video refutes what he says and links to WWF's own finances to show it.

And didn't sell out the stadium.

you can cope all ya want it doesn't change anything.

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>it's another shawnfag gets heemed by actual evidence and tries to refute it by desperately flooding the thread with a ten second clip of a literal mark guessing episode
i love re-runs will he disappear when buyrates show up like everytime before? im guessing yes

when you look up Seething Virgin in the dictionary, is the cope you see

You're the one coping here bud.
WWF Prospectus filed in Oct 1999 with SEC:
sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1091907/000095013099005812/0000950130-99-005812.txt
May-Apr Fiscal Year - WWF Net Income (Profit/Loss):
1994-95 - $87,352,000 (-$4,431,000)
1995-96 - $85,815,000 ($3,199,000)
1996-97 - $81,863,000 (-$6,505,000)
Numbers don't lie. Shawn is the worst draw of all time.

WHICH OF THEEEE

"draw" is a myth, numbers and heat are mostly determined by the cultural climate, not the talent booked on the card

>that palpable asshurt
lol k bud i guess ill hurry things along
Royal Rumble PPV buyrates:
(1.10) - Bret Hart vs. Taker - RR 96
(1.00) - Diesel vs. Bret Hart - RR 95
(0.90) - Yokozuna vs. Taker - RR 94
(0.70) - HBK vs. Sid - RR 97
WrestleMania PPV buyrates:
(1.68) - Bret Hart vs. Yokozuna - WM 94
(1.40) - Diesel vs. HBK - WM 95
(1.20) - HBK vs. Bret Hart - WM 96
(0.77) - Taker vs. Sid - WM 97
King of the Ring PPV buyrates:
(0.85) - Piper vs. Lawler - KOTR 94
(0.65 ) - Diesel/Bigelow vs. Sid/Tatanka - KOTR 95
(0.60) - HBK vs. Bulldog - KOTR 96
(0.50) - Taker vs. Farooq - KOTR 97
SummerSlam PPV buyrates:
(1.30) - Taker vs. Taker - SS 94
(0.90) - Diesel vs. Mabel - SS 95
(0.80) - Bret Hart vs. Taker - SS 97
(0.58) - HBK vs. Vader - SS 96
Survivor Series PPV buyrate:
(0.90) - Taker vs. Yokozuna - SS 94
(0.89) - Bret Hart vs. HBK - SS 97
(0.58) - HBK vs. Sid - SS 96
(0.57) - Diesel vs. Bret Hart - SS 95
>shawn outdrawn by bret
>shawn outdrawn by nash
>shawn outdrawn by taker
>shawn outdrawn by jerry lawler
>shawn outdrawn by yokozuna
>shawn outdrawn by mabel

>>shawn outdrawn by bret
>>shawn outdrawn by nash
>>shawn outdrawn by taker
>>shawn outdrawn by jerry lawler
>>shawn outdrawn by yokozuna
>>shawn outdrawn by mabel

>Shawn's net worth higher than all of them
Gee I wonder why
WHICH OF THEE
youtube.com/watch?v=TfnpLzGMnFE

You mean the company turned around the moment Russo got the book.

He's been slowly losing his fucking mind ever since WWF own finances and buyrates confirmed Shawn is the lowest draw ever. Poor fella always hung his hat on
>Shawn drew more than Bret
as if drawing more than the anti-dimes incarnate was something to be proud of. But then it turns out Bret drew more than Shawn and he is unravelling.

Russo only got the book because HBK liked him. Why do you think Russo always praises him

ya seethe lil fella? you keep linking your lil youtube clip hoping people will ignore buyrates
shawn = woat and it's been proven.

>But then it turns out Bret drew more than Shawn
if this was true, the screwjob would have never happened

Dude you must have legit 'tism if you can't tell he's been put on the spot and is guessing

>He has been called "the most accomplished reporter in sports journalism" by Frank Deford of Sports Illustrated
>His turban gets really tight when it hasn't been washed in several days
Guess which one I believe, Inderjeet.

The screw job happened because they were paying Bret a shit ton more then they were paying Shawn. It’s one of the biggest reasons Shawn was such a cunt, he wanted Bret money and he didn’t have it.

>if this was true
>if
WWF Prospectus filed in Oct 1999 with SEC:
sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1091907/000095013099005812/0000950130-99-005812.txt
You can go see yourself or you can REEEEEEEEEEE endlessly. Bret did outdraw Shawn. Losing 4 million is a bigger draw than losing 6. Neither of them should have ever been anywhere near the top spot and finances prove it.

>he has been called "a mark when it comes to the biz" by one of the GOAT's Hogan
>he has been utterly refuted ITT and you are crying

There's a reason Shawn is still utilized to build up angles on TV nowadays, whereas Bret is relegated to unannounced cameos. One guy draws, the other guy is a cute nostalgia act.

Neither of them ever drew but Shawn drew less than Bret.

>Shawn drew less than Bret.
Not according to the top dog in wrestling journalism
youtube.com/watch?v=TfnpLzGMnFE

>deflection
Can you not tell he is just guessing? The other dude puts him on the spot he has no information to hand he starts errring and ahhhing and then guesses.

>C-c-can you not tell he is just guessing
Christ you sound like a stuttering simp. Meltzer had plenty of time to collect his thoughts there. And it's all backed up in the August 3, 2009 Observer. Maybe your turban is cutting off your circulation.

Which means absolutely nothing compared to WWF's own financial records reddits favorite son le Meltz didn't have.
WWF Prospectus filed in Oct 1999 with SEC:
sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1091907/000095013099005812/0000950130-99-005812.txt

>it's another wolfcarter argues with himself about 90's wrestling attendance numbers thread

begging you to get a job

>meltzer had plenty of time to collect his thoughts
>twenty two seconds and he spends half of them going ahhhhhhhhhhh
Must be hard for you to accept bro. Spending your whole life doing the Shawn drew more than Bret routine then getting proven wrong.

Those SEC Prospectus numbers don't tell the whole story. Go read some Meltzer from August 2009 and you'll understand what drawing money actually means.
Do you even know what drawing money for the company means? We all know Bret had a bigger contract than Shawn at the time. The thing was, Shawn was actually worth his contract.

>shawn outdrawn by bret
>shawn outdrawn by nash
>shawn outdrawn by taker
>shawn outdrawn by jerry lawler
>shawn outdrawn by yokozuna
>shawn outdrawn by mabel
oh no. oh no. oh no no no no no no no shawn was the jannetty all along

Now this is copeposting.

>Must be hard for you to accept bro. Spending your whole life doing the Shawn drew more than Bret routine then getting proven wrong.
Meltzer knows more than both of us combined when it comes to numbers. I can only go by that and modern day evidence like Shawn having the highest rated Raw and Smackdown in years just a few weeks ago building up Dolph Ziggler. Meanwhile Bret's out there patting Seth on the ass in a cameo. It's clear who the company values more in 2019

>Meltzer knows more than both of us combined when it comes to numbers
Literally untrue and proven in this very thread. Meltzer is an absolute mark who begged wrestlers for information while they laughed at him. Only reddit numale smarks like (You) worship Mr. P-p-plans c-change.

Dave hates Shawn worse than Bret hates Shawn. There's literally no evidence that Dave has any pro-Shawn agenda whatsoever. If anything, the opposite has been true if you've been paying attention for the past 22 years.

>deflection
Nobody mentioned anything about Meltzer liking Shawnetty ya fucking clown although Meltzer does adore Shawns """style""" of flipping around the ring doing kicks. Meltz is a mark who knows fuck all and his constant
>p-p-plans c-c-change that's 11.99
refrain proves it.

On a scale of 1 to 10 on who Dave gives the benefit of the doubt to, where 1 is Ultimate Warrior and 10 is Ric Flair, Shawn is at a 6 and Bret is at a 9.
That gives youtube.com/watch?v=TfnpLzGMnFE a lot more credence whether you like it or not

imagine being so attached to the idea that your fake fighter was better than other fake fighters that you have a meltdown if the idea gets questioned

>yet another deflection
Meltzer has been proven wrong in this thread and in the comment section of that video. He is a numale mark and his words mean literally nothing.
>p-plans c-c-change

you haven't proven anything though. meltzer knows more than you.

Ill take an Ishii match over a normie fag fest any day. Kill yaself.

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>Go read some Meltzer

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>Ric Flair is 10/10 honest
Dave is a fucking retard.

>if i just keep denying facts and evidence i win!
I bet you think the Earth is flat too because you heard someone else say it ya mouthbreathing mongolian.

we were on the road to having a good discussion but you're clearly still pissed about something. loosen that turban and calm the fuck down.

>turban
Post a timestamped picture of your hand you are projecting so hard I would bet good money you are a shitskin.

calm down singh

This, taking Flair at his word 100% of the time like Meltzer does is the biggest reason why he is a joke.

lmfao that explains why you take a white man's word as absolute Gospel. The fucking state of (You).

>david meltzer
>white

Shitskins don't know the difference which is one of the main reasons America is in the state it is.

I dont care because Im not a normie and I enjoy workrate.
If you enjoy mass appeal gay shit maybe you should check out the Marvel Cinematic Universe or the new Star Wars trilogy.

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This is well-crafted bait. Take a (You).

Michaels was the Janetty all along. Marty drew the dimes. The heartbreak cuck stole them.

you gonna cry about it?

Its not bait my friend. If you want content that appeals to bored normalfags and literal retards thats fine, but dont criticize kino if that is your bag.

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It's very well done bait. The Elite picture was too on the nose though it gave it away.

Shawn didn't have the gimmick to be a top face. It's a testament to his ability and charisma that he got over as much as he did. He was always best as a heel.

With that said I still think it's harsh to put any blame on him for poor business. Wrestling was pretty dead at that point, even Hogan wasn't a draw anymore. If you put prime Austin or Rock in the cartoony jobber era of 95 and 96 they wouldn't have drawn either.

Austin and Rock would have drawn just fine. Hogan went heel and starting printing dimes. E-drones refuse to accept Shawn isn't the GOAT Vince told then he was, he is an anti-dimes shitter that fucked wrestling forever by inspiring a generation of 5 foot dwarves to flip about the ring doing superkicks.