Why is life so hard and filled with sadness and trouble?

"from sea to shining sea"
party wolf 1776

I was high last night thinking about not necessarily godhood but some type of pantheistic notion that we're all intrinsicly linked(humans) except we've forsaken our neurolink somethingsomething *draws an LCL parable*

well you are a pontificating retard

>try to dump down concept for every man digestion
>people still interpret it as pompous and dogmatic
i..

are you saying that if you hypothetically stopped death people would be happy?

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maybe talk in a more logical, streamlined manner as opposed to an esoteric one(see: garbled nonsense)

piles of bodies
sun on earth
America

I can't think of anything scarier than living forever. People who want to live forever assume life will always be fun, but I personally take an obscure solace knowing it'll be over one day; and I can expedite that should I so desire.

I do not.

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you have a circle of cheese
you cut circle of cheese in two
you have two halves of cheese
both are still cheese
turn that idea into macro scale
is that pompous? is that dogmatic or fucking hard to get?

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

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America is forever

dagger wore its pimp as hat

three blind mice
looking for a slice
three blind mice
isn't this nice

Imagine trying to dilute concepts for people smarter than you.

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i have brain damage and i still find it astonishing
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well broke it off with this girl that i thought was worthwhile lifetime girlfriend material after she told me she likes me but wants to slow it down a bit

i can't deal with the anxiety of not moving it forward, though its my fault and i was pushing things a bit fast which can be a sign of neediness and not a masculine trait somewhat but i told her i like her and want to try to make something lasting/worthwhile, even prolonged sex too. probably a mistake too, not cause "i shoulda just took it" but cause i think its part of women bonding and telling them to hold on cause you really like them and it changes relationship well...maybe im retard and its just part of their normal bonding etc. i think maybe its just a big hit to their ego or they think you dont find them attractive i wonder. ah well. tldr i wanna kill myself and i really wanna kill myself. etc etc etc and its bene i think one night. i could still text her and say hey you're worthwhile "alrite my bad ill take it slower "...but yeah whatever.

Because you prefer it to be that way.

i've given up on women at this point, being with men is so much simpler and worthwhile than trying to figure out the enigma of women's thought process, why try to solve a rubics cube when you can just pair with something you can understand and that can understand you
i could go on a meaningless rant on the specific things i do not understand or that i dislike about women but i won't because why bother, as long as you aren't pursuing a relationship with them they are fine and you can get along with them and even be friends with them
but as far as romance goes i'd rather spend my intimate time with someone that can actually understand where i'm coming from with my thoughts and that doesn't feel like everything has to be a uphill battle and that talking things through is of satan
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tldr; Kao is a faggit

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I'm pretty sure you're just gay because gay people probably fight more often than straight couples and though I will go out on a limb and agree with the women treating things like an "uphill battle" but oh wait that's every relationship on the rocks.

Were you hurt by a girl or did r9k hold open your maw and spew this nonsense down your gulliver?

personal experience and a little bit of r9gay
why not both am i right
also traps that think they are women are just as bad as the real deal in most cases
all you have to do is go through the checklist of things you dislike about women and you'll realize they really are just the same
find yourself a effeminate man who doesn't think they are a woman and watch the troubles fade away
speaking from personal experience

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again ur retarded if you think being a fag suddenly makes relationship problems go away

romance yeah literal only exists for men i guess idk man this is killing me and i think waking up this morning im almost over it but it would really save a life to talk to you about it but shit. i didn't even run game with this game i just held mostly masculine frame up until the end and caught feels then got super tired (similar to drunk) and ended up going on a rant one time and blablabla realized i liked her but she kept rolling with it. if i just pulled back or even texted her today maybe i could keep it going but...like, whats the point? i want a relationship, both people liking eachother etc. our daily is great, can game shes into all the obscure and weird music i am and shit etc etc. she jsut came off relationship she said 2 months ago wants take slow blabla its reall my fault but honestly maybge its just truly not in wims nature after all to have a real relationship that isn't sex/. i rly dont think strait men and women can even be friends.

worked for me

tbh I'd rather have a fwb but odds are if they were attractive enough that I'd want to fuck them then I'd catch feelings and that RUINS EVERYTHING

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id even care about relationships at this point (to try, obviously still want it etc). im super white and called a neo nazi .. but literally can say after last night and thinking.. "this the typa shit that turn a nigga gay"

this was litearlly me in the car. we just sat for like 20 minutes after a 30 min car ride of silence me stoneface kinda sensing last affection after movie etc blablabla. im probably fucking up something i could wrangle but this is just fuckign horse shit. i just wanna go forward. like holy shit. i know she's 21 and girls dont know what they want at that age etc but holy shit she's mature and her dad is a hardass cop, she's mature and smart enough like idk. at least i hope you guys can understand my feels like holy shit. this is litearlly 1:1 and i know that sounds cringe but i litearlly was stoneface mostly for the whole way and she went into her house crying and stuff at 2AM and I slammed my fucking steering wheel so fucking hard my hands were bruised, horn went off then i drove away.

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big gay for life, traps ARE women if gender is mental
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anything i say would just tip the scales and effect the outcome
come to your own conclusions after going through the thorn bush
two same numbers

Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger

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simply i was just not thinking of anything to say "what can i say that matters/get what i want", we already know whats up. basically i dont wanna just fuck around with the CHANCE the universal randomness of female nature is going to shine down and open up. they are like fucking forces of nature like a wave or an electric shock its literally non human like holy shit. nature did a good job torturing human males like wtf. its all good if they just worked more on logic and slightly more testosterone maybe i dont fucking know. ultra red pill is hi functioning autist girls are the best but of course you never get that "only woman affection " thingy. but what the fuck. that shit is just a human girl pushing buttons in your brain.

i used to be trap pilled (just made it up) and like, male brain + feminine body? god tier right? but as kaonshi said they got probs and gonna leave yo ass for a super rich man or someshit.

feminine guys probably the best then but where do i meet them. im so fucking done. women are absolute cancer.

nothing, ther eis no sol;ution media. the whole world is done for and degenerate. living for people and homeland was onyl thing and germans lost, last great people/society that could have been. everything is shit

i dont even have my media to sulk into anymore. no drugs either, alchohol does nothing for me. mayb eill start drinking that? buzz is kinda nice but....idk i can't get naything done. competitive multiplayer is the only thing i can 100% delve into and have a purpose in. martialarts too if my body were stronger. i just dont know man.

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>traps ARE women

No they're guys who want to get fucked you retard

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from my research they do adopt AND have brain differences Cat.not including injecting female hormones. so, what say you?

i knew this loser shitting up the board was a fag LOLE

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let me rephrase that, gender dysphoric traps are women
meditate and learn to let go of samsara
or continue wandering who cares this place sucks
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what's new? i never made a secret of it i even told that i was bi multiple times
their bodies are hot but their minds couldn't be more incompatible

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>brain differences

hey me too

Traps play a nice game of pretend but they're overtly girly, they're not 'feminine' in the classical sense. As far as brain differences I don't know what that has to do with anything. "feeling girly today so I'm a girl"

dysphoria is a mental illness because sane people don't look at their body and go "this is wrong" (unless they have flippers)

sorry i blog wen i have the day off and im drinking

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well so is schizophrenia
ever wonder what the root of mental illness is?
if just knowledge can make you insane what is insanity really?

u gotta be the person who is the shoulder that is cried upon not person who cries upon the shoulder

im happy to listen catfish. so do you like anime traps? i think everyone on 4ch does but they dont really exist irl. so what do you do? i been with some "traps" before but mostly just fems i guess. it was cool, i wont generalize but yeah idk what to do.

i understand what u mean by traps being overtly girly etc. anyways i dont expect getting actual female vibes from her (the love chemcials) etc but yeah. at this point straitup compansion shit to just play games and watch movies with and stuff is all i want. how u get fem boys that aren't STD ridden flamers keep it low key.

Knowledge doesn't give you schizophernia, nor it makes you go insane.

People with lower intelligence might believe you became insane, but that's beside the point.

I just jerk off tbh. I had a 9/10 gf once and I ruined it and now being the selfish cunt I am I think "well if I can't have THAT then I don't want shit" also I like traps in theory but in real life they make me sick, they're about as neurotic empty and selfish as real women but also more promiscuous. I also find them very vain people who take little responsibility for their actions, and they do it under this guise of narcissism. I think most of them are paraphiliacs, really.

I'd like to meet a cute feminine boy who crossdresses cuz I'm into that but I don't go to gay bars and I'll axe myself before I use tinder so I don't really give a shit. Sex is fun but love is important and I'm not seeking that right now.

well the effect is the same, i am a pariah and a pity case to them but that's what i wanted wasn't it
preferable outcome to the alternative that they actually believe me when they aren't ready for it
things are better than they were and i'm starting to manifest things i wanted in life so i shouldn't complain
i will not abandon truth though, if what i say can harm others and that is forbidden you know what to do if it's too harmful for others
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Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

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wat u said about traps is accureate to my exp and assumptions tho maybe u have more than me? thank u for sharing fren. how was the 9/10? theres generally a hot-crazy matrix so its say 7/10 is peak beauty + mental.and ya traps have that narccicism and never blame etc. avoid problems.

but ya cute fem boy sounds perfect and only worthwhile option for full investing in i guess. but the whole bar thing sounds like HELLA GAY cancer. and ya i dont like the social media shit.

you could jsut hit on peopel in public like i do and get numbers etc and jsut guess if a fem guy is the geyz. i dont believe in love but deff there's hard chemicals and yeah if you can get that somewhat with femboy then sounds good. i do want something thats actually attractive to me

everything this guy says annoys me for some reason

get your gneush boner under control

Traps adopt consumerist "feminine" traits they observe in submissive slutty pornography in the same way annoying shallow gay/trans people act like valley girls and "fierce" actresses they see on TV but they know literally nothing about being a woman. I'M ANGERY!!

People are vieing for partnership that is basically attempting to passively co-exist with yourself but without the parts of you that you hate. and sense there's probably a lot of self-hatred going on it's a big mene.

me too!!!!

can peaceful co-existence work like it did with that girl i had (and trap in the past)? i mean after awhile do you just grow on eachother? i mean things work for years with just strait dude friends and shit and you can squash beef etc.

when you involve sex and pinches of romance it complicates things etc?

i mean thats the spark that makes the idel moments where we're doing our own thing in the same room nice, you know? like ill be working on work or some shit and she'll be reading a book etc and its just really nice.

he hates it
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two same numbers
not with a partner that refuses to talk problems through and keeps saying nothing is wrong until the camels back is broken
c est la vie
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fugitol just bee yourself and enjoy the ride

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Ideally a relationship is for the improvement and betterment of both parties. Those who want a simple quiet comfortable life with some degree of co-existence are going to experience long-term trouble. I don't believe you can have an approach to life and relationships that is "I want to do little abd gain what I want" and have success. Once sex is on the table wide varieties of emotions and insecurities are on the table. If your approach is casual laziness, how will you deal with unavoidable rifts?

this one is smart

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u are too, friend

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intersting and more deeper take please go into detail. what you describe is what i want at least. you know maybe even lazy co existence. dont need see them every day but 3 or 4 times a week probably for me. neediness on my part? idk maybe a tiny bit busomeone with a house hobby or some shit like reading or listening to music etc would be suitable etc.

I have similar desires as you and I haven't fully fulfilled or established what I actually want and what I'm going to do about it. I feel a bit guilty tell you exactly what to do when I haven't put it to the test with my own well-being to the fullest extent yet. I don't want to say things beyond me taking a huge problem with earlier suggestions in the thread. Sorry, I can't give you all of the answers.

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well i hope ur around so we can talk

anyways i could tell the girl ill agree to take it slow. she already knows i really like her and want to go for something real. i want to say something like 'well i dont want to spend my time doing this if you dont think you'd up open or be interested in a LTR" essenitally. i know she likes me and there was super great first week hanging out etc.

if i ran game i could be with her for awhile but i want to be able to be mostly open and honest (while retaining most masculinitny) just in the sense of certain thinsg. im used to be alone and cold and bottling everything up minus some guy freidns to talk to etc. but yeah. to have that with a partner...idk. she left crying and i wonder if theres any way she'd forgive me or still has emotions. it was only last night litearlly. idk. she was like call me or text me or anything if you want to talk and i just kept sitting there iwthh her in my truck no emotion just thinking of something to say but i just felt like "whats there to say this is probably over".

could be overthinking it and just chad "haha ya i understand relationships are crazy lets just go slow for now."

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LOLE LOLE LOLE
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imagin the smel

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>Tfw Major depression
>Tfw self medicating with weed
>Tfw severe psychosis
>accidentally kill someone
>tfw spent 3 years in a mental institution and still in one
>tfw I thought life was shit before i ruined the lives of everyone i loved.

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i cant take this anymore do i just text is it just over. ive been reading lets take it slow is over. idk. i know this is all pathetic. im sure theres a chance if i just reel back and slow down but the anxiety is death. but life is fowradr you accept your default state or change it despite pain and discomfort until you're at a better place

All i can say is that in my mental illness, in my stay in an insane asylum i was able to read Tolstoys war and peace. Which was great because Pierre is some one who i feel like a lot of anons could relate to.

In the end the great epiphany pierre has and the one that spoke to me was that you have to Love Life.
Love Life
Love Life. yours and everyone else's. Its not easy, It really isn't easy. But happiness is fleeting. you're never going to be happy because happiness is just an emotion that our body uses to convince us to do things. There is no state of prolonged happiness. this is why consumer culture is so powerful since it exploits this weakness.

However you can achieve a state of love, Learn to love those around you even for their imperfections, and learn to love yourself. I believe in you user.

I'm the last one who can say this like I said here
I ended up killing someone because of my inability but I don't want anyone one else to get hurt, especially since the answer is so easy, and I was so blind. I don't want to see anyone hurt themselves. Worse comes to worse swallow your pride and get help.

I don't know your whole story but I have mine. I let myself get really close and open up to someone I wanted to live the rest of my life with. Even though I was cautious I don't think my intensity was appreciated and it ended. I wish i had been stronger. You are making a mistake yourself. You are conflating strength and a putting up a distant facade. Because you care, that's why you must control yourself and say what you need to say and that you are sorry for whatever you did but if you overstepped your boundaries you feel regret and you don't want to do that again. If you were lustful that happens when you are really lonely, it seems you know your mistake (which seems to have been lust or greed) is not worth the loss of the relationship. If you hurt her, stop complaining about your volatile emotions and inadequacies. You have to man up and grab onto the future if you want to be anything other than pathetic self-loathing wallowing nothingness. Sorry if that seems mean.

You are in that position where you choose what you have or what you could have. If you hate your life, in my mind you don't have much to lose. I believe in your ability to do what's best for you whatever you decide.

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pain in my heart...

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three same numbers
two same numbers twice

because of our fellow man

:^)

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This. Life is bad if you attach yourself too much to expectations and desires.

Life is good if you don't get caught up in what you want a take more pride in the fact that you simply exist in the moment. Life is the only reality we know so we might as well enjoy it and have fun.

Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha) went on about this kinda stuff mostly and I think he was really on point. Meditation is literally the practice of detaching yourself from things.

This would be a lot easier to do though if our shitty capitalist society didn't force us to work jobs we hate if we want to stand a chance at surviving.
You are probably experiencing alienation because of this OP. You can doing little things to change our economic system, while hoping for the best.
Meanwhile you can suppress your mind telling you you're not happy, just because you don't have some trivial things that aren't necessary.

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yfw you dont have a girl named lisa who is tearing you apart and you end up killing yourself with le gune

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good doubles!!

Your fortune: Excellent Luck

Meditation is key and amazing, I've only just recently gotten into it thinking it hokey shit. But now i realize that quietening the default mode network in the brain (the part of the brain that talks to itself and "thinks") a.k.a. achieving inner peace, is actually really important.

I do a meditation that uses a chant of Sa Ta Na Ma which is actually really powerful. You touch your fingers, chant in a melodic way and imagine a beam of light coming into your head and out your forehead. The combination of all three of these for only 12 minutes really trains the brain away from the ego and has a noticeable difference.

Although in my chant i use Ka Mi Sa Ma since I'm a weeb and i'd rather praise god than make a chant that has SaTaN a ma in it. But the idea isn't the meaning behind the words but rather learning to quite the mind and focus on mindfulness and the here and now.

Anyways
Is a good post. I wish I knew this before my psychotic break. I unfortunately thought i was above all of this and that i had the power to will myself through my own troubles.

double hero with a cute girl sounds so nice man

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Yeah, meditation/eastern philosophy is easy to dismiss since in the west it has mainly become associated with weird moms and college kids trying to rebel against there Christian upbringing. In reality, many of these people have a very shallow understanding of the critical topics, but think it's cool to identify as a Buddhist or something.

There are many ways to meditate, it's interesting to hear your style. I personally prefer classical zazen, but I'm interested in learning some Daoist techniques from the Zen monk I'm very fortunate to know.
It really doesn't matter what you do as long you achieve the meditative state (samadhi). What is very hard to explain to people who think of meditation as hokey pokey religious nonsense is that you can actually feel yourself entering the meditative state on a physical level.

If all people take away from eastern philosophy is "I should meditate more" that enough would be great. Controlling your mind is a skill, and like any skill you start by being terrible at it and need to find a method to practice. No one should expect to achieve happiness through detachment just by reading or hearing things, they need to truly understand.

One caveat is that some people have legitimate chemical imbalances that prevent them from being happy. I don't know if meditation will be enough in a lot of those cases, probably further help is needed. Certainly it will help speed up improvement though.
I wonder if chemical depression can be caused by conditions though? The prevalence of depression in recent years may indicate such? Lot to unpack there.

Another is that just because you understand you can be happy under most circumstances doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve them. If material conditions are making it harder for you and the people around you to find this happiness, it's legitimate to try and change those conditions.
You can be content with your life, while also seeking improvement of yourself and the society we live in.

>No one should expect to achieve happiness through detachment just by reading or hearing things, they need to truly understand.

Exactly. I never understood what inner peace actually meant or why it was important. I was told i needed to be more mindful but I had no idea what these buzzwords meant.
Once I learned the science behind some of it and felt the difference then it made me realize what i had been doing wrong.

I have major depression, and I think meditation does more for me than any amount of meds. I used to self medicate with marijuana or alcohol, but that ended poorly for me.
The hard part is getting into the habit of doing it every day. Right now I'm part of a guided meditation group.

>You can be content with your life, while also seeking improvement of yourself and the society we live in.
Yes that's true. But turning your statement around feeling down and thinking negatively about a situation or overthinking about a situation doesn't necessarily solve that situation and can even paralyze action towards solving the circumstances that you're in. Feeling terrible just makes you want to retreat from the world.

A key thing to take from clearing the mind and meditating is being able to shut down all the unnecessary distractions, and to focus on what you can do in the moment to make things better while simultaneously instantly feeling better about it.

>college kids trying to rebel against there Christian upbringing.
This is incredibly ironic to me because in the end I think that these "christians" don't pray. I think prayer is just another form of meditation that has been lost over time. There is something to be said about counting your blessings and reevaluating what is important to you. But I think most people have lost that ability to pray sincerely. The more I learned about eastern style meditation the more I appreciated western style prayers for what they are.

That said I was raised Atheist and so lacked either form of prayer.

guess im going all in betting on this chick being a real lasting thing, doesn't work out im done with grils

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Because us humans aren't special, we are really the same as an ant, we don't mean anything, we are just conscious and conciousness is nature's nightmare

Society bubble makes you think you are different from an insect, that us humans are somewhat of special but we are nothing and we mean nothing

Lose all your ego, realise what you are, someday you won't be concious anymore, someday everything will be over for ever, you were 'lucky' to even be alive in the first place, life is really random, you just born in a timeline and then you die and that's all. it's amazingly beautiful and sad.

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