Was this match laid out as some kind of sick inside joke?
Was this match laid out as some kind of sick inside joke?
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You know, a dueling superkick spot like that at the end might be cool if the "chain wrestling" leading up to it wasn't the single gayest thing I have seen in my life.
what the fuck is this shit? Why are they rolling around like toddlers?
>0:13
My fucking sides
you could've told me the first half of the webm was in reverse and I'd believe it
That's actually a really cool sequence in theory, the execution was just god fucking awful. It felt like it was at 0.5 speed.
as a casual chad I'm laughing my ass off
1000 times better than anything boomers like Austin and Hogan did in the ring. No wonder wrestling is for the modern, thinking audience now and the times of catering to rednecks is in the past
>Marks think this match is one of the greatest in WWE history
Thank God I didn't watch that fucking manlet spam fest
HAHAHAHHAHA OP here im still watching. Adam Cole hit a landslide and the dumb woman on commentary actually called it a Michinoku Driver. This is hilarious.
100%. I'm so tired of people shit talking the new styles because they aren't just punching and kicking for an hour
Here's how you do something like this
This is nice
can't be gayer than anime
Why do this if the crowd obviously didn't care
soul
soulless
FUCKIN CHRIST
Because they're nu-wrestlers. Everything is heavily choreographed and they can't improvise at all. Once they start they gotta keep going because all they can manage is "I flippa you, wait, and you flippa me"
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
they literally did chant holy shit at that spot.
HOLY SHIT
HOLY SHIT
HOLY SHIT
Maybe it's just cause I've been watching the G1 the last month but this is the slowest, most uncoordinated, obviously choreographed thing I've ever fucking seen.
wrestling is dead.
I haven't watched any wrestling in a while but this is almost as bad as the Bucks webm
>the backslide into the Rainmaker
I could describe this as either "horsin' around" or "a game of grab-ass", but I would never refer to this as "professional wrestling".
it is embarrassing
I can't imagine something on this level happening on CMLL or NJPW without consequences
>I've been watching the G1
go back
Go back to what? Watching the G1? I wish I could, but it's over
Basado
Still a lot no sells.
it'd have been cool if adam cole actually kicked the guy after the staredown.
It's because every move is deliberate. Every time one of them slips out or counters it has a reason. In the nxt match they're just dodging each other for no reason. Aj gets out of the hold by elbowing, not because he dodged at the last second.
You can always rewatch the best matches brother
no way bros
that's just the NXT style
I see his career will last about 3 years,
all i see are ladyboys dancing
>dad walks in
>there are people who unironically think this is great wrestling
>Alvarez and Meltzer think these two had some of the best matches in WWE history
>there are people that pay to hear their opinion
ahahaha post Dunne's pure strikes
are those wolverine from the 90s cartoon colors?
that's a comedy spot
Not even on the same dimension with the uncoordinated shit from OP
NXT makes me fucking boil
sure thing family
Feel sorry for the ref.
Only one guy is getting hurt and he's desperately trying to counter and keeps eating worse and worse punishment
>ahahaha post Dunne's pure strikes
pt 2
PLEASE RE TI RE
*CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP*
PLEASE RE TI RE
> me to the right.
And Okada and AJ had clearly defined finishers and signature spots that people had seen for years in main-event-tier matches.
mmmm wouldn't wanna mess with him
>Hey man, how about we copy the NJPW style of avoiding 1000 moves but do it much slower and sloppy
>Sounds good senpai, I was in NJPW I know the ropes
Jesus
Gotta feel bad for the ref
pt3
I've seen women hit better and not MMA women, normies women, someone must've told him he looks like a complete geek.
Props to Dream for staying down selling rather than getting involved in that garbage.
Gaytch's shit traveling circus of 5'4 manlets pretend fighting is one of the worst thing to ever happen in wrestling
Are they trying to mat wrestle and failing miserably at it?
Gee, it's almost as if AJ and Okada are a million times better than Cole and Gargano, what shocking news
Then again, wasn't Alvarez saying Gargano was the american Okada months ago? Top kek
I wish old Bryan Danielson would stiff the shit out of this fag
It's not even execution, the way it's set up necessitates them to move with the awareness of what's coming and wait for their opponents.
Sock 'em boppers! Sock 'em boppers! More fun than a pillow fight!
Nope it wan't and you know that. see y'all in a couple of weeks 3 mystery posters (Including the mod)
>The ref
Every fucking time
This
Dream is unironically the only good thing to come out of NXT. He's the only one who gets the psychology of it
Chico and Meltz hated this match interestingly enough.
That's what happens when you refuse to watch hundreds of hours of gay porn like this
youtube.com
to learn how to chain wrestle properly.
It doesn't have to look like this
youtube.com
in the end, but at least put in some fucking effort.
>watches 1(ONE) Jay White match
Remember when it was shit like Adrian Neville and Kevin Owens? That was fun.
>ywn see prime Bryan stiffing these faggots so they get a clue about striking
If you rewatch the match and think of it as a prank, a parody of Meltzer-baiting "Match of the Night" bullshit, its a really funny match. Its a matter of perspective. Its hysterical comedy, regardless of intent.
My favorite chunk of the match is a fire extinguisher spray to the face into a tornado DDT onto chairs is kicked out of so the other wrestler can retaliated with a piledriver at 42 minutes that is kicked out of, followed up with a piledriver at 44 minutes that is kicked out. Its a deliriously bad 4 minute stretch of wrestling.
The kendo stick spot is also really precious.
That was the worst Canadian Destroyer I have ever seen.
so saying it was a decent match and not bad is "hating it" these days?
I hate the Canadian Destroyer. It's so obvious that the guy on the receiving end is doing most of the work.
What the fuck that was so awful how do they not die of shame
He can't even fall down and make it look good what the fuck is sthis shitter's problem
I didn't realize falling down organically was a talent but I appreciate chadblade even more now
OH
MY
GOD
This is so much better lmao. But these are just logically countered moves, the Cole Gargano thing is even more embarrassing because it’s two guys who have never been in a real fight pretending to shoot wrestle and looking like the absolute pretenders they are lmao
>NXT
>fun
>ever
HOLY CRINGE
The worst part is they keep looking back and at each other for their cues
Legend has it, if you go to the performance center on a moonlit night and chant "gargano gargano gargano" while slapping your though, you can hear the sound of dimes screaming in agony as they flee the premises
*strums banjo*
ding dong ding dong ding dong diddly doooooo
the fuck was the point of using the ladder? spot looks even more retarded than usual
I've only seen the first one and I couldn't take it
what's the point? go for a sunset flip no? the destroyer doesn't make any sense on a flow level, like you jump down an all the energy goes into the mat unless you're so quick in the execution to make it look like you bounced off to give yourself the push, but Gargano is already a shitter and the destroyer is a convoluted move. Makes no fucking sense, it's shit done just to say "oooh a canadian destroyer from the ladder"
Austin was way better than these two in the ring ya virgin zoomer.
AJ's running on pure adrenaline because he knows if he stays down he's dead. And the second he stayed down, he was dead.
*no sells your gay little video game references in your path*
Its so phony looking. If it was slower and had more oomph to it, it'd be better. Makes me miss those Cactus Jack and Mankind "stump puller" piledrivers where he'd grab people by the back of the trunks and give them a spike piledriver. It looks so much more ferocious and devastating than this dance off stuff. People described this as "piledriver off the top rope" and "piledriver off a ladder" when its something more like, "hops off a ladder and piledrives the guy somehow" and "hops off a top rope and the other guy coordinates to do some piledriver-looking maneuver." Its the phoniest looking shit.
I mean, to play devil's advocate, I'm pretty sure Gargano and Cole are playing off of their first two matches there. I assume that's what's happening, I didn't watch any of them.
Alright guys I finished it it sucked heres shingo hitting two lariats to ease the suffering
Man, I love NJPW
HOLY FUCKING BASED
>Really well executed forearm
>Then proceeds to stiff the shit out of Omega
I don't watch WWE so I don't care, but this is unironically the worst thing I've ever seen
>We'll never get this again.
Why did he take the money, bros.
Sells for what?
Got any Goto midkick webms?
Fuck Shingo is so based. And Goto is always great against these thicker guys.
How many viewers will this draw on FS1?
BAH GAWD ALMIGHTY THEY KILLED HIM
Probably. But their moves are both "out of nowhere moves" (superkick, running knee or shining wizard? IDK because I don't watch). Meanwhile, Okada and AJ both have moves with longer set-ups (Rainmaker, Styles Clash), so the excitement is in the struggle to complete the move vs counter. Gargano and Cole aren't presenting a sense of "struggle", just two guys dodged out-of-nowhere moves, which just make the moves themselves seem ineffective.
Look at the spastics in the crowd giving this shit a standing ovation.
BASED
Would it kill them to look up some kendo lessons on youtube?
>that second one
God fucking damn
>Thinking anybody is paying for that reason.
>be Johnny Wrestling
>wearing my new outfit, based on a children cartoon character
>three incels bowing, while the rest of the crowd is utterly indifferent
>"this is what it's all about"
God he makes me seeth
I've never seen someone embody the NPC meme as much as Johnny
I like to pretend ROH died after the Final Countdown Tour
I only come to this board to see modern cringe wrestling shit so thank you. It never disappoints
Somebody PLEASE send this to Cornette
it's supposed to show that they're extremely experienced against each other so they can predict what's coming next...why is this ite so dumb
looks like two kids playfighting on the basement couches
This,they all try so hard to like Jeff Hardy but in the end they look like dunces because they do it really safely.
yeah we get it, it's still slow and looks like ass lol
Paul should be ashamed of himself for promoting this shit
this looks faker then any flippy shit
Props to Velveteen for actually selling instead of just flailing around
Bryan can't exactly be as wild as he was before or he might end up like another Shibata, hell they're already similar enough.
Sucks though, I wish I could see him in NJPW for a last run. Ambrose did great and he's not half the wrestler Bryan is.
>why is this ite so dumb
It's because they're really bad at it. At least twice the guy had already moved out of the way, and the other guy just took a bump where the guy USED to be. Two other times one of them very clearly just let the other get out of a hold.
It's like the high school drama club does Hamlet of profession wrestling. The lines and script and shit is on point, but the actors are self indulgent, bratty tards who don't fucking lift.
It kinda did, at least quality wise.
We still got the steen/generico feud but you're right for the most part
See, Yea Forums usually "shits" on manlets but it's just a work. They shit on Cole and Gargano not because they're small but because everything they do looks soft and ultra fake. Benoit was a manlet, yet he shoot scared people bigger than him. Bryan has no problems stiffing whoever isn't playing the part, was never afraid of anybody. All the NJPW guys that aren't Okada since he's a tall dude, they're short but they're thick and have this aura that makes them look bigger than what they are. These two are just two guys doing moves for the sake of doing moves and they're not even doing them correctly. Sloppy, slow, this honestly looks like a wwe women's match, not kidding.
THIS IS AWESOME
>See, Yea Forums usually "shits" on manlets but it's just a work.
Cope manlet
its really how insane how bad wrestling is these days, and they act like its better than ever..
Vince, make the call. Shitcan the Kliq, one nigga will set all of these dorks straight.
>but it's just a work
You short motherfucker
You got me, I'm a manlet.
How the fuck does goto do that flip while hitting a lariat of his own?
Fuck that's incredible. There is even a sort of story here
>Keep countering each other
>Slowly but surely Okada starts getting the advantage of it
>Hits the Rainmaker
>From this point the counters by AJ are more desperate than considered
>Okada uses the advantage to put him away
Wrestling has always been full of shitters though. Thats what makes the great guys stand out. It's not like hulk Hogan was in the main event every single show. You just don't want to remember the shit ones
Seriously the story isn't that their countering each other, it's that aj is fighting for his life. Once that first hit is in he's in full survival mode. He doesnt have the power to put okada down anymore
NJPW WINS AGAIN BITCHES
Exactly. When the first hits all he can do is duck and grab Okada from behind. Very little to do, just a desperate act, which Okada counters instantly
Its threads like this that remind me that despite the hoards of shitposts that flood this place, Yea Forums probably has the most knowledgeable fans on the internet when it comes to pro wrestling psychology and storytelling.
>njpw kino magic
but srsly wtf
Fuck off you the g1 is based. Unlike using a cute little nametag.
NJPW matches feel like two athletes who want to win. If you miss your cue you get punished. NXT matches feel like "hey you do your spot... ok now let me do my spot... no it's cool I'll wait for you bro". It just doesn't feel like a fight between two fellas who want to win.
there is no great guys anymore. wwe has all the best guys from roh's last relevant era, and they arent. everyones working a super safe style now even on the indies and its boring and LAME. they're all worried about concussions and getting injured, STOP BEING A PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER THEN. if those types got out of wrestling, and the ones who stayed were ones willing to get hurt, then it would be interesting again
Someone make it a perfect loop or some shit.
Should be banned for how stupid it is.
You should check out Curt Stallion
PUMPIIIIIIIIINNNG BOMBER!
this guy unironically has better strikes
Hoo boy, I really regret not watching NXT for the past 2 years
Not even trying
There are plenty of great guys. None of them are allowed to practice their craft in the U.S. though. Look at fucking Mexico, the matches get heat even if some the in ring quality is suspect sometimes. Japan doesn't give a shit either. It's wwe killing the fucking industry on purpose that fucks everything up here.
love the little moan miki does on the second one.
holy shit WWE is absolutely intolerable between it's SJW feminist affirmative action shit and flippy vanilla manlets doing fake dance routine anime pose superkick showdowns
im not going to watch mexican shit.
We all do
just trade forearms, jesus christ
No shit, our shitposting is so low IQ it's genius.
Keep watching wwe faggot
The no sold Rain-Maker is the only "problem" in there, only because it's a super-sold move, particularly in 2015.
I would be very happy to never see Dunne ever again. Why is he still around? There already are tons of Brit wrestlers better than him and Wad Barret is out there still if they need to get another
Jesus I wish they would just make closed fists illegal. It would avoid shit like this. Slaps look better, are louder, and make more sense for not doing much damage.
It's like watching Batman fight Bane.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I get better matches out of my 2 year old son.
This looks like they were trying something from New Japan except shitty and not realizing why they did that.
Meaning?
>there are "people" who have not made the switch
Meltzer said this match wasn't good and it made all the e-drones on reddit seethe.
What?
based
That was my immediate thought too.
Based
and it wasn't even the full rainmaker. that user
is dumb
the story they're trying to tell is that they know eachothers movesets so well because they've wrestled each other so many times in nxt but it looked pretty shitty
Meaning?
How is it people can't understand that the rainmaker is only the actual rainmaker when he ripcords them before hand
idk im pretty sure its just people who dont actually watch njpw
Absolutely based.
No it didn't. They all agree with him and hate the match because they can't form opinions on their own.
thanks for reminding me why I like aj so much, and okada, and njpw
Simply beautiful.
Because Kevin Kelly screams RAAAAAAAAINMAAKER everytime Okada performs a lariat.
First off I have the Network. I mainly just watch PPV's and older stuff so I'm not very familiar with NXT. I never watch to be honest.NXT. Not even once. So I just finished watching it. Seriously what the fuck?
>superkicks
Is it normal to do or attempt a fuck ton of superkicks? You super kicka me I kicka you,superkicks off ladders,super kick onto chairs,superkicking each other at the same time
>psychology
No selling reverse frankensteiners,no selling chair shots, frankensteiner off the top rope into chairs,using the pliers on the barbwire for no reason then diving off the cage into the table
>their size
I enjoy watching the smaller guys work. Eddie,Benoit, are examples. But they were actually wide and had definition. Even D-Bry is pretty big. But these fucking guys? Cedric Alexander,Buddy Murphy, this I get. They look defined. But these skinny fags. And they're supposed to wrestle against Randy,Roman? Fuck off.
It's like watching njpw in slow motion.
>knowing what Reddit thinks
go back
it's a comedy spot, dipshit
Why is there a roll of duct tape in the ring? Was Yano in the match?
This is so unnecessary. NXT and wrestling like this as a whole is why I genuinely stopped watching
>nujapanlets think choreographed dance sequences are better than E drone shit
you fags are exactly the same
To be fair, it's easy to nitpick psychology in hindsight. But that's also true for the wrestlers, the two of which in the OP apparently have no fucking inclination to do that. Nor their goddamn agents. Nope, they're the best Sports Entertainers in the world! Nothing to improve upon here! *slaps thigh*
You dumb shit, everyone worth half a shit killing themselves doing stupid shit is how we got to this fucking point in the first place. You think Ric Flair was killing himself for heat? Of fucking course not, or he wouldn't have been wrestling for something like four fucking decades. You fucking lemon.
t. 5'11" flunkies
Yea Forums is just full of wrestling fans who like to be able to say the N word
>WWE has the best wrestling in the world
I bet you clap when those faggot Japs do it.
Why is this allowed but the package piledriver isn't?
Dat sweat cloud
>Did you say your move has the word piledriver in it? Mmmm, that ain't going to fly, kid.
Why are they so damn slow
Because they're not very athletic.
I still don't like these no-selling sequences in general but this one isn't comically bad like the Gargano/Cole one
Glad people are finallu realising bret was a better wrestler than HBCringe. All these nxt faggots trying to emulate shawnetty will lead to an entire generation of shitty wrestlers.
>, Yea Forums usually "shits" on manlets but it's just a work
When will they learn?
Pathetic fags
They're very athletic, that's the only thing they have going for them. Well, Memegano is. The problem is the sequence fundamentally.
BBBAJS
>HuRr is faster so its better DuUr
Nope; still gay and cringe flippy shit.
Kys
Times have changed and people dont want to watch racist wife beaters punch each other in the ring
In the halcyon days of NXT, I think it might have been the first actual "TakeOver" event, Neville, Sami Zayn, Tyler Breeze, and Tyson Kidd had an excellent 4 way. That match was peak NXT, in a good way. Everyone in the match had a bit more fucking sense about them, and Dusty was still mostly putting together the shows, so the psychology wasn't nearly as silly.
Now this is a New Japill if I've ever seen one. Now that AJ isnt that good anymore.
This felt like a pardoy of a "fake" wrestling match.
People shit on Orange Cassidy, but with him we at least know it's an intended gimmick. The wrestlers, agents and higher-ups were 100% dead serious with laying the match out like this.
...
That's probably why nobody watches and the industry has no cultural relevancy today.
Remember, big cities are a bubble. Wrestling's a good example of what happens when you ignore the rural whites
They're not. This is like when Punk would try an athletic spot and it would look sloppy or be in slow-motion. The difference is that Punk could atleast tell a story in the ring, while these guys only know how to come up with sequences so they could get, "This is Awesome" chants from the crowd. When it doesn't work, like it did this match, they cry on Twitter.
This, as well. That's the difference between NXT then and now. Back then, you had one roster vet and a couple of guys who had to get acclimated to WWE Style. Today, it's just guys doing sequences. NXT hasn't really had a story like Sami finally winning his first title. Shit, even Bayley winning was a big deal because it was a long-term storyline and we actually saw her improve. Today, they just have these PWG-lite matches, but it's so obvious that Hunter is trying to make them "Epic". Gargano/Cole reeks of those Shawn/Hunter Hunter/Taker matches that went on way longer than they needed to be, and were overly-dramatic.
They tried it with Gargano/Ciampa, but they just made Gargano look like a retard each time, and Gargano is nowhere near Sami in terms of emoting and having charisma.
Dusty was always about the chase.
Shingo actually hits him hard enough to flip him over, and Goto is man enough to take the hit.
Brie threatened to leave him and take the kid if he went back to the bingo halls.
He'd be shibata-tier, unfortunately.
Its Adam Cole's big brother!
>it's just a work
Cope lil fella
>Takeda clan heraldic symbol
>Shingo is from Yamanashi prefecture, former Kai province and domain of the Takeda
based
>non-edrones think doing choreographed standoffs is cool
*Ospreay still living in Vince/Seff/Haitch's head rent-free
it's called "wrestling", user
>flippy gymnastics are fine as long as they took place 5 years ago
you fuckin leave big autism out of this
>manlets are okay as long as they're from a decade and half ago
based
Based. The only people who don’t like this are coping seething jabroni marks
Gargano sucks. If he and Ciampa are such great wrestlers, how come they needed to literally tear the ring apart with gimmicks in order to sell themselves as a credible main event?
Adam Cole is the least interesting guy in a very uninteresting faction.
I actually like this triple threat match it even has seff janetty
Bryan is literally the best parts of the indies and WWE style in one.
>credible main event
lol
Stop posting anime girls you little queer.
I hate flippy shit and only watch random non-shitter NXT and WWE matches, but that was based.
Dream is a change in selling away from being as good as people hype him up as. If he didn't sell like he was dying for 4/5ths of the match, he'd be pure money.
Roman vs Buddy was better than all three of their matches and any of the Gargano stuff sans his match with Andrade and first one with Ciampa.
NXT's golden age is so clearly defined by Sami's saga from entering feuds to his last fight with Nakamura. His match with Nak is probably the peak match, but his program with Neville and final win is the peak program.
its like Im watching Eddie Guerrero and Dean Malenko again.
based user not letting this burial of Johhny Faggot slide off the catalogue
Would have been better if Cole just put his nuts in Gargano's mouth.
Wrestling is scripted, so it looks like they read up and knew what each other was going to do. I can dig it.
Johnny is too small/didn't have enough momentum and it just takes all impact away from the spot.
Kyle's punches look fine. He is actually throwing his hips in like is legit punching.
To be fair. He is looking at the entire crowd with his emblem or whatever up
That retard still gave the match 4 stars
Manlets are okay as long as they're good wrestlers who can be intense. Benoit, Styles, Bryan, New Japan guys, etc. They're fun to watch and aren't overly choreographed numales who take pictures with Thanos gloves and post about how LGBT friendly they are on twitter
Nu japan pro ladyboy dancing
The thing that Dream has that others lack is adaptability and an understanding of the crowd and atmosphere. Something 99% of WWE wrestlers lack these days but it's what made guys like Stone Cold amazing to watch despite having like 3 basic moves. He's also the only one who doesn't act like a geek on Twitter which helps me believe the character.
Understanding pacing, being able to change shit on the fly, and reading the crowd>>>>>>I flippa you you flippa me 5 star Meltzer-bait circus acts
Psychology of this hurts. As soon as Cole is standing and he is on the ground, head exposed, why the fuck is he going for a headlock and not just kicking his head in?
i liked this match.
You like penis too.
based and redstatepilled