Ruthless Aggression Era > Attitude Era

>2002 smackdown was just vanilla midgets having long matches with barely any storylines.
You didn't even fucking watch retard. You had
>Undertaker vs Lesnar
>Raw Invasion angles
>Los Gurreros
>Angle v Benoit tag team / rivalry
>Hulk Hogan on the card every week
>The Rock in his prime

>ratings ratings ratings
imagine reducing everything you like in pro wrestling based on a fucking Nielsen rating lmao. Rub those braincells together and think for yourself

>2002
>The Rock prime

Rocks prime was 98-00

Most of those were just matches retard with barely any angles

>Undertaker vs Lesnar
>Raw Invasion angles
>Los Gurreros
>Angle v Benoit tag team / rivalry
>Hulk Hogan on the card every week
>The Rock in his prime
Literally all involved angles. Hogan vs Rock rematch in particular was an especially based program

The Ruthless Aggression Era wasn't even a real era. It was just the Attitude Era but with less people watching.

Hollywood Rock is prime Rock.

>The Ruthless Aggression Era wasn't even a real era.
Incorrect it's a distinct era which began with the brand split and this promo
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Crinfe.

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It's true it's damn true
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youtu.be/sjtAgrsnY5g
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Guerreros just started teaming, it was first later they did any character development, Raw invasion angles lasted a few weeks, Angle/Benoit was just them having tag matches, Hogan was only there a few months at a time until he left in 03 after a shitty Mania payday, Dwaynetty was barely on Smackdown at all

It's better than now, but anyone who actually believes this clearly didn't live through both periods and watch. Or if so, you're a complete retard.

not his best look though. silk shirt rock with the belt is dimes incarnate.

>Guerreros just started teaming, it was first later they did any character development
No they started doing development almost immediately in 2002
youtube.com/watch?v=JUtDeBtV9BM
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>Raw invasion angles lasted a few weeks
Raw invasion angles lasted throughout the year with Bischoff raiding Jericho followed by Stephanie raiding Benoit and Gurrerro. Then there was Brock switching brands along with based 3 minute warning angle

>Angle/Benoit was just them having tag matches
No they were the shooter tag team that didn't get along they had tons of backstage promos

>Hogan was only there a few months at a time
You say that as if having one of the biggest draws of all time on the fucking weekly show wasn't significant. He helped to get Brock over making him look like a monster, Edge too in the tag team, also the feud with Rock like I mentioned previous

>Dwaynetty was barely on Smackdown at all
Hollywood Rock was the best incarnation of the character and it was mega based

>almost immediately in 2002
those vignettes are from 2003
>Raw invasion angles lasted throughout the year with Bischoff raiding Jericho followed by Stephanie raiding Benoit and Gurrerro. Then there was Brock switching brands along with based 3 minute warning angle
those are a few angles over half a year
>No they were the shooter tag team that didn't get along they had tons of backstage promos
They had 1 minute backstage segs and then 20 minute matches weekly
>You say that as if having one of the biggest draws of all time on the fucking weekly show wasn't significant. He helped to get Brock over making him look like a monster, Edge too in the tag team, also the feud with Rock like I mentioned previous
Yes, again, he was a legend that came in once in a while
>Hollywood Rock was the best incarnation of the character and it was mega based
Hollywood Rock was barely on Smackdown retard, and just there for 3 months anyway before leaving WWE for good

Null and void because the height of RA era in 04 was the single most disastrous and putrid shit year since 95

>those vignettes are from 2003
No they weren't

>those are a few angles over half a year
Yes they stretched for months and were a significant focus of the show they didn't last "a few weeks" like you said originally

>They had 1 minute backstage segs
They had weekly segments building it up even PPV spots see Rebellion 2002

>then 20 minute matches weekly
No they didn't

>came in once in a while
You just said he was there for months at a time in fact he was a regular part of the show from early 2002 to mid 2003. He didn't just leave after Mania he stuck around for the Mr America angle and the feud with McMahon.

>Hollywood Rock was barely on Smackdown retard
Hollywood Rock jumped between both shows and did all of the build for the Hogan rematch on Smackdown

More people need to be this honest on this site.

He left after summerslam 02 and then first came back for No Way Out 03 and then left again in like June

> hulk Hogan every week
>good
Hogan was one of the few bad things about RA. Dude needed to fuck right off forever 30 years ago

nah him getting squashed by Lesnar was kino so was his feud with McMahon

He was still the most over guy in the company. The crowd says otherwise, you fat ding-dong diddly fuck

based
youtu.be/ErnmSGIMRrk

You geeks have the same fucking argument all the time. The Attitude Era was far superior. Literally no one outside the bubble even knows what the Ruthless Aggression era is. It basically signified the end of wrestling for millions of people.

>Literally no one outside the bubble even knows what the Ruthless Aggression era is.
You fucking ant-smarks are pants on head retarded. Ratings and recognition in the mainstream are not all that matters. Stop letting a fucking Nielson rating determine what you like and don't like. Ruthless Aggression vs Attitude is a legit debate as far as quality goes. Both had tremendous star power, great PPVs, and I'd argue RA had better in ring action. There's an argument to be made for it.

What else matters faggot? Suplexes? High spots?

>I'd argue RA had better in ring action.
Wrestling is nothing more than a television show for normal people. No one fucking cares about the matches, or the moves, or the workrate. The only thing that matters is characters, storylines, and entertainment. There is no debate to be had. Millions of people stopped watching because it became so bad.

Match quality, angles, week-to-week shows, PPV quality, star power, booking. You know what actually makes wrestling good ya simp. Rock vs Cena was the highest drawing Mania of all time but that doesn't mean the show itself was the best Mania, in fact it was the absolute shits. Ratings does not equal quality

This. Today's wrestlers are arguably the best there's ever been in terms in ring ability but most of them lack any charisma. This is what the indies / Japan get wrong. John Cena was a massive draw because everytime he was on your screen you cared about what happened next. Who cares if he's not doing 20 high spots per match?

Any other era ever > this one now of dork manlets doing movez

Rock vs Cena was only the highest drawing because of inflation, stadium size, and because WM17 only counted domestic PPV buys.

That's not true he is A WRESTLING GAWD

Maybe in terms of pure athleticism but not in terms of psychology, selling, taking audience to an emotional ride etc.

>No one fucking cares about the matches, or the moves, or the workrate.
The absolute fucking STATE of anti smarks.

>The only thing that matters is characters, storylines, and entertainment.
Which RA had in droves.

>Millions of people stopped watching because it became so bad.
People stopped watching because wrestling in general lost its heat after WCW shut its doors. The insane popularity of late 90s wrestling could never be maintained it was a trend of the time like so much other shit in the 90s. All things considered RA was a great continuation of Attitude.

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>No one fucking cares about the matches
You still living in a basement, Vince?

kek what a seething brainlet

>OP starts a thread with a shit opinion and spends the entire thread getting gradually angrier defending his shit opinion
All this time later and OP is still, and always will be, a faggot.

>WM17 only counted domestic PPV buys.
no mania 17 did 1.04m worldwide and 925,000 in north america. 17 isn't even second 28, 23, 21, 27, and 24 all had a better buyrate. Like I said letting ratings alone dictate what you like in wrestling is fucking stupid.

>it's another jabroni simp can't defend his shitpost tier arguments and cries episode

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RA Era was 50% awful because of Raw.
Whatever argument you want to try and make, you're immediately conceding that a full half of the era was unwatchable. Smackdown was good, but RA Raw was absolutely, truly dire.
If you want to make this argument, go RA Smackdown and reduce it to that. Overall RA is even more overrated than the AE because people look back fondly on SD and completely discount the negative impact Raw had. Do that and you might be able to make the case.

>he thinks I'm sitting here arguing with him about mandrama
lmao fuck that ya steamin' simp but thanks for proving my point that you're literally spending your day getting more butthurt about your opinions getting dismissed

The main even scene during reign of terror Raw was pretty shit but the undercard and midcard was solid. 2005-2008 Raw was actually pretty good all around. Haitch vs Batista was solid, Cena had based angles with Angle, Umaga, Edge, and Jericho.
People seem to forget that the undercard and midcard for the weekly shows in the attitude era were very underwhelming. Go look at the average attitude era Raw card, hell go back and watch some of the shows, and you'll see just how shit most of the card was. Much of it was shitters like the Headbangers in tag team matches against other shitters like the Godwins. Most of the singles matches were awful and ended in DQ fuck finishes with Russo tier angles. Attitude Era was incredible but people seem to forget the underwhelming in ring action of the undercard and midcard

>I-I don't care about mandrama
>as he sits posting on a mandrama image board
you're not fooling anyone jabroni.

>Attitude Era was incredible but people seem to forget the underwhelming in ring action of the undercard and midcard
NO ONE FUCKING CARES

>Attitude Era was incredible but people seem to forget the underwhelming in ring action of the undercard and midcard

Because the undercard/midcard was for gimmicky shit and there was no expectation for it to excel from an in-ring aspect. You're interpreting modern expectations onto a product that strove for something different. Midcard/Undercard AE was about imprinting characters.

cry some more simp

>Attitude Era was incredible but people seem to forget the underwhelming in ring action of the undercard and midcard
And yet some of them were more over than modern main eventers. Aint that a bitch?

Problem with wwe at the moment is that there is no big daddy babyface heels which is what made the RA and attitude era successful.

Seth Rollins: No
Brock: Maybe
Kofi: No
Orton: not quite
Kevin Owins: No

>big daddy babyface heels
Say what?

Hi Bruce

Why do you think ratings fluctuate? Just coincidence?

Ruthless Agression era ended when Sullivan murdered Benoit and his family

>i-it was just gimmicky shit that was supposed to be bad
I don't think that's true. There was a number of midcards acts during the attitude era that got over through combination of character and in ring work. Take Edge and Christian, Dudleys, Jericho, or Rock for example. The issue was Attitude era undercard was filled with gimmicky shitters who weren't worth a dime in the ring. Maybe it has more to do with the Russo booking where each match ended in a fucky finish.

>And yet some of them were more over than modern main eventers.
Yea modern WWE fucking blows dude what's your point?

This finishes advanced feuds and protected characters. And midcard angles were fun like Mark Henry taking Chyna to date with D Lo as his limo driver. Or GTV spying people. Those will get you more over than any kind of pointless wrestling match.

Ratings fluctuate partly based on the quality of the show but it is not the sole determining judge of weather the show is good. Like I said previous Rock vs Cena Mania was the highest drawing in history despite the show itself being shit. Mania 17 isn't even in the top 5 drawing Manias of all time yet but it's considered to be the greatest of all time. Ratings shouldn't be the only thing you go by when judging quality.

>This finishes advanced feuds and protected characters
any examples you can point to?

>And midcard angles were fun
I agree at times they could be pretty cool but other times you get bullshit like Jericho v Kane feuding over spilled coffee or Rikishi running over Austin or the kennel from hell match. It was very hit or miss.

>GTV spying people
That was based

One show drawing is not the same as sustained ratings, so that is a terrible example.

The lead up Raws to Mania 28 almost all drew 4.5+ ratings the highest sustained series of ratings it drew in years. Despite this the shows were shit with the Cena and Rock feud being absolutely terrible.