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Raw Gamethread #11
Matthew Sanders
Ryder Moore
AUSTIN IS FRIENDS WITH A HYPOCRITE WHO BETRAYED HIM LAMO
Fuck JR
What happened to JR tonight? Oh wait he refused despite his oil mongol owner giving him permission because he has always been a fucking backstabbing huckster who was always a cancer backstage from the time he was head of talent relations until now.
Bells palsy was too good for him, hope he gets a fucking stroke
And I didnt buy my bumpers from dirty indian ragheads, I ALWAYS check my products to make sure theyre AMERICAN, if you can't spend an extra 5 cents to support your country than you can fuck off to Somalia along with that nigger from MN
Luis Jenkins
This is all very masturbatory
Jacob Cox
Fuck bros that just makes me want to watch attitude era raws agian.
Aiden Edwards
>No current talent goes over
>Nothing happens that hooks people into tuning in next week
What the fuck are they doing, holy shit
Jason Carter
Did you guys see how Austin big leagued Nash?
Logan Allen
FUCK YOU USA I WANT TO SEE THAT SHIT
Zachary Nguyen
B-BUT I WANTED ROCK TOO
I'M FUCKING MAD
Christopher Martin
TRUMP BTFO
BASED AUSTIN
Henry Price
So, why didn't Vince come out?
Jose Baker
That was it? Was that the last Raw friends? It feels like it's done forever.
Leo Perez
yeah. Big Daddy Bitch is probably seething right now
Asher Nguyen
Come on, they couldn't wrestle or anything?
Didn't realize it's over already.
Liam Gutierrez
Austin just talking about eating room service is more compelling than any promo given by the dime repellent main roster in the last 5 years.
Ethan Gutierrez
What happened to HBK?
Brayden Roberts
How did you guys rate the last episode of WWE Raw? Cause nothing can top that.
Lucas Russell
Based.
Colton Lewis
series finally of raw?
Jose Davis
>alicia fox a "wwe legend"
>kaitlyn a "wwe legend"
wtf
Parker Lewis
What do you mean? Seth joined the click today.
Hunter Hughes
What the fuck was that ending?
Brayden Flores
So that was basically WWE's death knell, wasn't it?
Ryder Morales
>What the fuck are they doing
Masturbating
Nathan Richardson
Can't you just stfu and enjoy something for once in your life? You must be great at parties
Logan Perez
Did Bray do anything? I went to the bathroom during a moment to piss and ended up doing a full course
Ryder Powell
Anyone got pics of Candice from tonight?
Isaac Powell
"And if people didn't know us they think we were onto something"
or whatever he said about ron, now that was gold
Joseph Roberts
Why cant a modern wrestler get the same pop as Austin? Is it because they all suck or is it because the crowd refuses to accept newer talent like that?
Nathan Ross
Same. I might just start watching attitude era raws every monday instead of the shit they put out now. But the show tonight wasn't bad.
Ryder Sanders
Oh go record your review, JD.
Dylan Stewart
Bray gave a mandible claw to Foley.
Luke Nelson
If the entire 3 hours was that I would not have mind at all. Steve can talk.
Cameron Diaz
what the fuck was that?
>y-you're our family
are they trying to guilt us into continuing to watch?
is this all they have left?
try making a fucking entertaining show, you stupid piece of shit
Levi Ortiz
Can flair not cut a promo no more? Bummer
Adrian Allen
Why did that feel like the series finale of WWE or something
David Rogers
sad how there's no hyperbole here
Liam Moore
He laid out foley
Cameron Edwards
I'm glad to be able to post here with my WWE family
Adam Ward
took out Foley
Nathan Perez
I can enjoy something and still point out how stupid it is ya simp
Wyatt Mitchell
>You must be great at parties beep boop
James Sullivan
They Boomered it up way too much
Oliver Turner
>not one stunner
fuck this company. the ratings will probably continue to drop as smarks get more depressed being reminded how good things used to be and tune out
Aaron Parker
Did Stone Cold just say shit in the end?
Jacob Taylor
Learn english fucking canadian frogs
Kevin Brooks
Who the fuck are they going to bring out for Raw Reunions in 20 years time who can close a show like Flair, Hogan and Austin?
Mason Bennett
series finale
we're free
Bentley Phillips
MIZ BTFO OUT OF ZOOMERS IN STREET FIGHTER!
Logan Russell
In truth austin hates WWE , he just came back for free money
All he had to do was drink beer, say what vince wanted him to say, and shill his shit
Gabriel Lewis
Can't cut promos.
Caleb Cook
so who didn't show up/weren't invited?
Logan Morris
Man, they should have had him kill Austin and all the old fucks in the ring for the main event. Imagine the heat that'd get him.
Joshua Hill
based foley putting someone over
Austin Edwards
>Vince not letting them do their own promo
>Wrestlers with no charisma and doing flips / superkicsk
>Can't do promo for shit
Grayson Gomez
zoomers ding-dong diddly schooled by based Miz
Brody Ramirez
they are pakistani, not arab... pakis arent oil tycoons.
the khan family instead have a monopoly on making car bumpers in the usa, there is over a 75 percent chance that the bumper on your car or any car in recent past 20 years was bought from the khan family.
wrestling is quirky, it always is tacky, there were 3 special years from 98 to 2001 where it was amazing.
aew is way better then this, this is embarrasing, all of the stars today are huge metrosexuals, have shit mic skills, and they do weak shit in ring.
also... HAVE SEX.
Ethan Morales
This. They name dropped his podcast and beer that's why he was there
Nathan Brooks
>are they trying to guilt us into continuing to watch?
it was an old guy saying thanks you fucking goon
Jackson Sanchez
I have no clue
Justin Gutierrez
Miz, Ryder, and Jasethy
Brandon Diaz
and?
Sebastian Wilson
Damn I wanted to see more of the party
Julian Taylor
hopefully this was a way to pass the move on so now Bray owns it
Xavier Wright
Aew is all manlets and gays
James Rogers
benoit
jericho
Jayden White
The what chants are fucking shit. It seemed like the crowd couldn't even decide when to say what half of the time, they were just kinda trailing off and on.
Samuel Kelly
>no after party on the network
honestly a missed opportunity
Lincoln Gray
Cody Rhodes
Jose Mitchell
The Shield
Michael Ward
The Rock
Liam Thompson
Same shit I was thinking. They really hate ending the show with a cliffhanger for some reason, it’s like they don’t have the sense to try to hook this weeks extra viewers into coming back
Grayson Martin
>no Elias and Jillian Hall performance
>nothing with Owens and Steve Austin
what were they thinking?!
Brandon Collins
I genuinely want to know why Rock wasn't there. If Cena can take a break from F&F then he can too.
Nathan Baker
Roman or Triple H you absolute retard.
Connor Collins
>nothing with Owens and Steve Austin
absolute blown opportunity
Jace Russell
>I show them how to act like an adult
That Miz fella is pretty funny.
Luis Lewis
He's been distancing himself from WWE since the saudi thing
Matthew Cox
The Rock doesn't want to be in a building full of smelly wrestling fans.
Sebastian White
Maybe they want to save a Rock appearance for FOX Smackdown
Wyatt Smith
Yeah but it got censored
Lucas Phillips
>I genuinely want to know why Rock wasn't there.
Either promoting his new movie or filming another one.
that and they didn't want the show to go 45 minutes over.
Charles Green
Elias is unironically the closest to getting that pop and it's obvious why
Charles Fisher
Lmfaoooo
I always think of shit like this. Like, in ten years most of these guys are gonna fall. Imagine Raw with Hall of Famer, The Miz or Dolph Ziggler.
Ryan Murphy
>No intensity of the attitude era
>everything seems forced and fake
>same match 6 times in a row
>no buildup to climaxes and releases
>no ring chemistry
>instead of rest holds its rest outside the ring for 15 minutes
>no connection to a modern generation
Ethan Richardson
i think vince did this as a carrot on a stick to tell the youth at wwe " hey look at this history, look at these success stories, this will be you one day"
he did this as a hail mary to keep current roster people from bailing on wwe now that aew is a thing and that aew is letting their roster wrestle where ever they want and have a ton of creative control.
basically its "stay at wwe and be a cog in the wheel and what we tell you for a lot of money"
or take a big pay cut, but have 6 days off, but have one night on tv where you can be whoever you want to be, like what you dreamed you were gonna be when you were a kid!
most these people made a good chunk of money, most people dont stay at one job in the real world, its very likely aew lands about 5-6 wwe stars when their contract is up.
if cm punk is at aew, its going to be be very tempting to jump over to aew.
Benjamin Baker
Why didn’t Cena come back out at the end?
Gabriel Garcia
he refused to show up with Nash after he called him gay
Grayson Thompson
>It's a special ep with more people watching then usual
>They don't even try to captialize and make people watch next week
>literally just a sappy WWE cheerleading ep
this only makes sense if the company shuts down tomorrow
Ryan Foster
The problem isn't that it wasn't fun (really wasn't any fun other than the 24/7 title imo), but that the reunion shows are supposed to trick people that may have dropped out of wrestling into watching the next shows. I haven't watched Raw in the past 3 years, and after tonight, I don't really care for next week, or Smackdown. It's still the same boring shit it was 3 years ago.
Matthew Anderson
What? It sounded to me like it went through uncensored.
Henry Adams
He can be back on "his own show" Smackdown tho.
Jeremiah Stewart
He already left the arena no doubt.
Nolan Nelson
>alicia fox in the ring surrounded by beer
who booked this?
Dylan Clark
Ring is only for people who draw dimes
Mason Reed
I hope Scott Hall wasn't in the ring, either.
Eli Myers
This Miz show is actually pretty entertaining.
Christian Rodriguez
Isn't his podcast on the Network, or is it licensed out to them just for money?
I wouldn't doubt WWE owns his name or slogans.
Hudson Clark
I'll say again, i feel for the Miz. Having to deal with such a shit family.
Tyler Flores
its like watching ecw tho, most wwe matches are rehash plot lines, yelling at each other with no mic, doing very safe moves.
aew has pile drivers, it has backwards pile drivers behind the back, it has moves that luchadores dont do, it is fast, not one minute is wasted in the ring.
im 31 and i grew out of wrestling in 2001, been hate watching it lately for nostalgia.
aew is kinda a little glimmer of hope, it will prob peter out, but so far, it looks good, its very violent, wwe is very tame, raw and smack are litteraly house show tiers.... a lot of filler, lot of commercials, lot of boring playing it safe moves.
Easton Bennett
I think cm punk is aew bound
Cameron James
Explain Nash being there
Samuel Richardson
YEAH!
James Torres
It's this no ones allowed to get over on their own. vince is willing to kill the company over his misguided beliefs
Daniel Lee
It's not a hive mind you fucking retard.
Gavin Ross
>not doing this already
cringe
Joshua Smith
The Austin promo did feel like the series finale of WWE. I'm going to watch old PPVs and shows and reminiscence on one of the best parts of my childhood.
Jack Walker
>We're a family
My ass
Sebastian Rogers
You have to remember that Shawn's eyes are pointing in two different directions now, so he probably got lost on the way to the ring.
Zachary Sullivan
Drew a single dime, at least 10 cents more than Seth ever did. Godspeed Bray, hope the new gimmick works out for you.
Jeremiah Wright
isn't that the whole fucking point? Just because people are proud of something doesn't mean it's "masturbatory" you just don't have anything to be proud of.
Sebastian Bailey
He would've shown up anyways. He does what he wants.
Carson Rogers
^this and maybe Wyatt. I've never seen Elias actually wrestle in a non-squash match and he's my favorite heel out of any of the modern guys.
Joseph Taylor
Pretty shit Austin didn't stun anyone.
Jaxson Morris
modern wrestler's really dont have the passion that austin has for wrestling. they think there's rules. there's no rules to being a badass and these simps will never get it.
Jaxon Walker
His podcast definitely isn't on the network, and I assume that they have no power over it. He recently did one with AEW's owner, and I doubt they'd let him do that if they had any control.
Matthew Lopez
Rank em!
Daniel Thomas
either he is going to aew... or he has some new comic book or podcast that he is going to advertise and he is going to sucker fans into having to listen about it by pretending to go to aew.
but tony khan is filthy rich and he wants punk...
plus aew is going to only be once a week, that is only around 50 shows a year... punk would have be stupid to not take that money.
i quit watching in 2001 so i missed out on punk, but the youtube vids of him are stone cold tier..
Michael James
Auska would be a better wife than a smelly leaf frog.
Bentley Peterson
I don't want to pay for the network though bro.
Adam Foster
Were there any angles set up for next week on this show?
Carter Gutierrez
no lol
Jason Fisher
Does it matter when they book from week to week anyway? Even if they set something up there's no guarantee anything would come of it.
Robert Murphy
Reigns vs Joe maybe?
I don't know, I was honestly expecting Roode to show up since he's a Canadian and would probably draw a few dimes when Slam comes our way, but they never put him in a fucking plot so it'd feel forced now.
I guess maybe making Becky and Hart a bit more antagonistic to one-another, but it's moot since I care so fucking little for Becky and Hart is a botch fiesta even cutting promos so it just felt worthless.
Samuel Torres
You know what made that Austin promo most compelling? There was an aspect of danger to it, you didn't know what he was going to say. It seemed organic, genuine.
When's the last time you ever felt like one of these sanitized new gen onions were ever gonna go rogue? Or when they ever said something that made you think, hey that guy's just one of the boys, like to have a beer with that dude.
Nathaniel Ross
yeah man...
that's...
very possible...
yeah...
Parker Smith
I agree.
I feel like aew is almost mixture of ecw mixed with 1996 97 wwf with modern bullshit.
That dustin cody rhodes match reminded me of stone cold vs bret hart or bret hart vs Shawn Michaels.
Honestly i think we are about to see history again.
I think a new era of raw is about to happen
Jacob Perez
>Ring style is completely different
NJPW is unironically more Attitude era than WWE currently is. WWE is still wrestling like a 2013 PWG show. Part of the Attitude Era was that is was brawling, even from the more technical wrestlers.
>Matches are the same
With that said, no guy in WWE stands out either. All the guys wrestle the exact fucking same.
>No builds to anything
We haven't had a blood feud in years. WWE feuds are literally, "YOU HAVE TITLE, ME WANT" and then some battle royal happens and the guy wins a title shot. There is no intensity towards any feuds. I watched a couples of weeks ago and AJ pinned Ricochet and his response was, "Yeah um okay, you beat me, i respect you" WHAT THE FUCK!?
>No storybuilding or show-long storyline
This is what I miss the most. Watch any year 2000 WWF show, and there was always some reason for the show to exist. Rock would have a PPV match with Hunter, but he'd also be feuding with other people on regular shows. It wasn't just him coming out and calling out HHH every time. Sometimes, Jericho or Benoit would come out during his promo and call him out. Sometimes, HHH had to deal with Jericho calling Steph a slut, and it set up the show. WWE does none of that anymore.
>Old fucks still booking
I guess this is the most important part. I laughed when people wanted Heyman back without really knowing why Heyman worked in the 1st place. Heyman worked because he was a NEW GUY with NEW ideas. WWE lives in the past. They never give someone new the helm to at least try something new. Get someone outside the business if you fucking have to--shit, just get someone who's outside your bubble and has new ideas.
Alexander Garcia
Literally nothing set up. it was like a series finale. they could've set up Joe vs Joe like said but reigns pinned him clean. it was stupid
Logan Jackson
This one. Especially around 1:30
youtube.com
Juan Morris
>Were there any angles set up for next week on this show?
well 24/7 title holder just swapped wives.
Ryan Cook
New era of raw?
Jeremiah Jenkins
WWE has stories?
Dylan King
they follow a script and are afraid to get fired because they have no power you fag
Isaiah Thompson
i dont get the pausing?
is that like a thing in wwe?
are you being sarcastic?
Jayden Barnes
>michael kanellis and drake won't form a tag team called the c.c. (cucked club)
Luke Young
Maryse is hot as fuck!
Ayden James
Was Corbin even on the show?
Gavin Robinson
Seeing an impact wrestler on WWE tv would have been very weird five years ago
Thomas Hall
check out the being the elite vids on youtube...
the young bucks have a vlog with a ton of little gimmicks that are original and funny, lots of wrestling highlights, back stage shit.
the bucks are over rated, but they are fun to watch and its a cool little look into the life of a wrestler behind the scenes.
i agree with all you said too... but they ruined the wwe roster by making them cliches tough guys in a pg era... you cant open them up, it wont be believable.
maybe the nxt crew will be the ones to jump into the pg14 era.
Colton Kelly
What's weird is, after every one of those segments, Vince has to run to the bathroom....
Colton James
Vince also speaks from both sides of his mouth. He tells guys to step up, take risks, reach for the brass ring, but Big Cass goes into business for himself, works over a midget a little extra to make a segment look good and gets disciplined for it.
Wyatt Bell
lmao you people are dumb as fuck
You keep saiyng this raw felt like a series finale but you're not connecting the dots
Tonight's Raw WAS a series finale. With no more of Vince's angles going forward to next week Paul now has a very clean slate. Before that it was a mixture of Vince's stuff and Paul's but now it's all paul.
Nolan Martinez
Already ranked in order
1. Torrie
2. Kelly
3. Kaitlyn
Isaac Carter
no
they also didn't bother to fly in the fucking universal champion
Brayden Green
>robs hairline
Jace Stewart
>Was Corbin even on the show?
No, thank God.
Thomas Walker
Fuck I forgot Reigns pinned him clean. Jesus Christ that match was so boring I forgot about that aspect. How can these writers not figure things out. I'm a fucking worthless retail fag and I could cut shit better than them.
William Morris
>vince ever letting go
you'll have to take raw and smackdown from his cold dead hands
Anthony Hernandez
That was a given since why waste his limited shows on this one when they were already loaded it up with old fucks
Christopher Cox
>Vince: Oh Jesus Fuck, Bryan and his hippy dippy horseshit, he's quoting Carl Sagan now. Fuck this, get in here and hit somebody.
Jacob Williams
Can't you just enjoy something for once you miserable twat?
Eli Phillips
aj really has that soccer mom face and hair, i cant stop seeing it.
Carson Stewart
>Have to live with a loud annoying frenchie who's even louder and more annoying family visits once and awhile
Miz should've took the gookpill
Owen Kelly
it's weird that they didn't set up anything for next. literally nothing
Lucas Hill
They're re-running Raw on USA? Since when do they do this?
Evan Bailey
no it isn't
Jason Gray
Oh shit they are replaying the reunion. Let's watch again lads.
Christopher Parker
Dont try reasoning with an animeposter, legally, they are braindead.
Adam Green
next RAW*
derp
Alexander Stewart
>>Have to live with a loud annoying frenchie who's even louder and more annoying family visits once and awhile
you know damn well she wears a tight and skimpy french maid outfit for him whenever he wants.
Lincoln Diaz
A GOD DAMN RE RUN
IM IN
Christian Cook
Also yes, Holy Fuck thank you for this, due to my job my WWE viewing is sporadic as fuck nowadays. Bryan is digging deep for this, you can almost see Vince gain more respect for him.
Daniel Perry
>it was like a series finale
See
Julian Barnes
They probably have more people watching than usual so i just figured they would do something to hook viewers
Levi Miller
they're doing it just for the reunion
running before smackdown tomorrow too
basically USA is pushing RAM hard now that they're losing smackdown
Jaxon Torres
Do you think he has Auska on speed dial for a three way with a kimono?
Easton Lopez
This was the hook. The legends. Brock isn't around so their main belt was going to be filler this week anyway.
What exactly "Big" was there to set up?
Lincoln Jenkins
post any sexy pictures of kaitlyn
Robert Howard
That's not a hook. The legends won't be there next week.
Christopher Morgan
do you mean from tonight or in general?
Caleb Nguyen
>Do you think he has Auska on speed dial for a three way with a kimono?
Nah. Look to whoever Maryse was running with back when she was wrestling. That chick gets involved.
Brayden Reed
You're missing the point. What the fuck "big angle" can they even pull? Brock/Seth is their set Summerslam main and Brock wasn't even there. You are just talking shit without even thinking. The show was literally just about the past guys, that is what they advertised.
Aaron Bennett
>They probably have more people watching than usual so i just figured they would do something to hook viewers
wrestlinginc.com
I know, I know...
>dirtsheets
Jose Johnson
Something as simple as having what Bray did with Foley close the show.
Austin Hall
yeah sure
Juan Bailey
Yeah, it felt kinda slapped together. No one had a real coherent plan for it all, other than cram a bunch of legends together onscreen.
Luke Jenkins
Either. Doesn't really matter.
Andrew Smith
How long can they keep rolling these boomers out to say their catchphrase to make millenials go "he did/said the thing zomg!"
Matthew Clark
I miss my childhood and being so excited to watch all these wrestlers young and in their prime when they were full of spirit. I miss being so excited to play PS1/PS2 smackdown games and wasting hours on CAW and playing matches with my school friends. The genuine happiness I felt in those days were the best part of my life looking back.
All the spirit of life has been zapped out from the world as I grew older. Will it ever return?
Jayden Barnes
lol no
David Clark
>ratings suck.
>USA getting pissed.
>USA demands a legends reunion to boost ratings.
>WWE does it .
>WWE fucks it up because they really don't know how to currently bring and keep people in the seats.
Sounds about right.
Charles Wright
I still want to go down on Alundra Blayze
Grayson Richardson
Maybe not bury the OC and instead have them beat the shit out of the the old timers. Cause a real stir
Justin Edwards
until they're dead
Brandon Robinson
>Will it ever return?
No. In fact, it's only going to get worse.
Henry Johnson
>the OC
fucking hell.
that's terrible.
Lucas Butler
this
and also this, it makes me think of that show with the same name and I never even watched the show
Carson Russell
yeah him destroying the dwarf was unironically his most memorable moment aside from dbry smashing his face, who was also going off script
Dylan Perez
>sometimes I think I have felt everything I'm ever gonna feel. And from here on out, I'm not gonna feel anything new. Just lesser versions of what I've already felt
meme movie but it's fact as an adult
Anthony Bell
>tfw you've lived to see everything cool from your childhood whither away and die in 20 years
Why couldn't we do anything to stop it?
Sebastian Roberts
Was Raw any good? I missed it
Thomas Ward
>tfw you can't even get a proper shitty reboot of professional wrestlers
Ryder Parker
>Was Raw any good? I missed it
Is raw ever any good these days?
Zachary Lewis
you missed pic related and drake wife swapping. only other thing worthwhile was Austin in the last ten minutes calling everyone senpai
Oliver Robinson
He hasn't showed up for 3 and a half years. I think people need to just admit he doesn't care about wrestling anymore and has moved on.
Jonathan Reed
Everything just feels so sterile and clean. Its all just so fake, corporate and manufactured. Everything they say is just to create catchphrases or nicknames to sell a few extra t shirts, the titantron with their name in giant block letters feels fake and lame.
There is nothing 'Raw' about it.
Caleb Russell
My God, the guy has shown up for plenty of these things, above and beyond the call. Can't he just live his life without it being, "Oh he obviously doesn't care anymore." Dude's a global megastar now. He gave back to wrestling far more than he ever took. Eh, I say let him live.
Nolan Long
The general production an presentation is a big problem but it's one of the things they're so proud of and dump so much money into.
Cooper Flores
>show is called raw
>bright lighting, everything is clean and micromanaged
gee i wonder
Matthew White
i was hoping they would've let kevin owens stunner him and beat him up
Joshua Perry
uhhhh felt like a funeral for the WWE.