>Meltzer on WOR: "Yeah. Not good. Stunning. Absolutely stunning. I didn't necessarily think that Smackdown would sell out and I don't think anyone did. But everyone thought like "instant sellout" for RAW. Some of it may have been overpricing, which is being rectified. But yes, ticket sales were exceedingly disappointing. I don't know what that means from a numbers standpoint. But it's NOTHING like what ROH and NJPW drew for their MSG show. And the goal was obviously to sell out quicker than them. The goal for this was to be their version of the giant demand, 15-minute sellout just like the other guys did and this didn't. It's New York and New York should've been easier because of the scalpers but the scalpers didn't hit it. There were about 1,600 tickets sold to scalpers. The ticket chart that I saw, I couldn't really tell you how many tickets they put on sale... but there's tons of tickets left in most sections, there's a few sections that're sold out. But most sections, there are tons of tickets left, even the cheap seats tons of tickets left for RAW and considerably more for Smackdown."
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO. Looks like the Garden is New Japan's territory now, friends. How is the industry leader drawing poorly at the fucking Garden for a TV taping? Jesus Christ. And they tried to sell out quicker than NJPW and ROH AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA.
Nice try, E-drone. They're doing TV tapings for RAW and Smackdown. And TV tapings from the Garden are ridiculously expensive.
Juan Rodriguez
Somebody should tell those retarded scalpers that WWE stopped selling out arenas a decade ago
Hunter Jackson
How can they have a house show when they can't draw a house?
Leo Davis
That's a lie. Tarps and curtains would pays a very high price for WWE show.
Mason Ward
>WWE are shit because they didn't instantly sell out MSG >"yeah WWE were always aiming to instantly sell out MSG"
Fucking cancerous goblin spinning the low IQ virgins into a frenzy yet again by creating fictitious goals for WWE to not meet.
Robert Long
WWE BTFO OH NO NO NO NO NO
Jason Brown
TARP IT DOWN
Jason Ramirez
Why they make a TV taping in MSG and not PPV?
Joshua Rogers
hilarious how wrestling is going to die because of horrendous trumps economy
Kayden Ward
Hilarious how you forgot to dilate today but you still took the time to post that terrible comment
Jackson Ortiz
>I couldn't really tell you how many tickets they put on sale >but there's tons of tickets left in most sections
Why does anyone take him seriously again?
Dominic Morgan
>Blaming WWE's lack of appeal on Trump
R E N T F R E E
Jackson Powell
based
Wyatt King
So out of morbid curiosity, I decided to check out the tickets for both RAW and Smackdown and I legitimately fucking screamed. Jesus fucking Christ. What the fuck? There's gotta be at least 15,000 tickets still on sale across both shows.
Guys, keep in mind. They thought both shows would sell out instantly. That's how delusional they are. I'm in tears, I'm laughing so hard.
This is good. Just means Vince will start pushing the envelope further and further. PG-13 here we come.
We win again, E-Chads.
Tyler James
i feel empty inside; i don't feel like a winner
Ryan Collins
>There were about 1,600 tickets sold to scalpers
Ooh this is new! Big Dave now knows the scalpers and gets "leaks" from them?
Joshua Cox
>he doesn't know that big dave has stooges in every tv network and box office
Noah Bennett
Still LESS than New Chadpan
Juan Turner
What the fucked did they expect? They just had trouble selling out a ppv in Philly and had to sell them buy one get one free in order to move them. It's no secret that the show is shit and they are losing fans daily.
Jaxon Allen
while you were doing that and laughing I was having sex with my gf
>There were about 1,600 tickets sold to scalpers. How does Dave have this information?
Juan Jones
He checked and counted all the tickets on stubhub. So in addition to all the tickets still left available, there's around 1,600 more on the secondary market. Literally nobody's going to this show.
Joshua Richardson
he doesnt
Jackson Perry
OH NOOOOOO
Ayden Green
This is what happens when WWE forgets the casual and normal fans. Wrestling is supposed to be fun for children and women as well, this is why you push your Cenas, Batistas and Romans and don't give a shit about the crowd chanting "you suck" because they're literally marks who are paying to watch your product.
The second you push and make the star of the show the indy shitters like Owens, Zayn, Cesaros, Daniels, Punks, etc. Those were marks that got into the business, like Russo said the fans are now inside the ring.
Even their biggest flop in the last 20 years, Seth Rollins, was overpushed so fucking much and still isn't half as over as Roman is.
I watched WWE in 2007 and back then people were complaining about how bad things were. But every single low carder was still a veteran that could teach a lesson to everyone on that roster right now.
Failed indie shitters will never draw.
Appeal to children, women and casual fans. And this will only work with exciting storylines, boobs, ass, sexual jokes, cutting edge characters, and less focus on wrestling and more on characters.
Oliver Peterson
>WWE can't sell out as fast as New Japan its OK "E-chads", I'll still watch Summerslam with you but I will talk about how awesome the G1 is the whole time
WWE can easily solve this issue by announcing a love dx reunion or by having a high profile undertaker match.
What could aew and njpw do in the same situation ? Beg their fans on social media to come, lol?
Kevin Lee
Well said. I'm sick of WWE pushing regaulr looking unimpressive indie geeks. I want Lesnar vs. Lashley, Braun vs. Roman, Jinder vs. Cena, etc. not Balor vs. Bryan or AJ vs. Seth
Brayden Hernandez
Kenny Omega alone sold out MSG instantly. Kenny Omega was the IWGP Champion when tickets went on sale and those tickets fucking flew. Matching him with an anti-draw like Rollins would've frozen ticket sales.
Colton Baker
Have sex
Christopher Ross
lmao E drones FUMING
Josiah Martinez
Sunburn seething
Kevin Thompson
Then why did indie shitters sell out msg just months ago? Surely indie shitters with the wwe machine behind them have an advantage.
Isaac Lopez
It's AEW territory since Omega was solely responsible for ROH/NJPW filling the building
Jace Jenkins
Having to rely on wrestlers well into their 50's for a cheap pop because they can't create new stars can hardly be looked at as a plus.
Alexander Davis
This is aew pr guy at his finest. There is no way wwe thought instant sellout
Oliver Clark
WWE would have had no problem selling out the Garden in the past. This not some worked PR, it's a legitimate sign of what's been happening for years in WWE. Falling ticket numbers, and falling viewership. Even the TV execs are getting worried about it, having pitched both the wild card rule, and 24/7 belt in a bid to pop a resurgence in ratings.
Caleb Stewart
>But everyone thought like "instant sellout" for RAW. Literally nobody thought this, Dave.
Adrian Butler
Motherfucker, we're talking about WWE. Do you honestly think WWE wouldn't try to make some kind of statement to NJPW and ROH selling out MSG? They very clearly wanted an instant sellout to be competitive with the other two companies and they fell flat on their fucking face. This is a company who went head-to-head with NJPW in the U.K, AEW in the U.S and is planning on going head-to-head with AEW on TNT. They are very clearly concerned with what other companies are doing and are always looking to compete. To try and convince yourself otherwise is delusional.
Cooper King
scalper jews should be scalped
Michael Moore
I hope you pirate it. Fuck wrestling.
Gavin Foster
>blaming trump for wwe being ran by an out of touch senile old man, his arrogant, is never wrong and egotistical daughter, and her mega insecure, giant raging ego, asshole husband
Brayden Wood
Don't get me wrong, I like that he genuinely does bribe people and gets lies from them he thinks is true but even this one is a new tier of comedy.
we're to expect Big Dave has people who actually interview scalpers?
Bentley Rogers
>first Raw taping at WWE's "home" arena in a decade >six months after New Japan and ROH sold out a show there >"of course it wasn't gonna sell out instantly!!"
isnt wrong. people who watch WWE dont care about flips and spots and great matches. they want over the top pageantry and living comic books. Unfortunately for WWE that crowd has diminished and really all thats left is wrestling fans. and while WWE probably has the best roster, at least in the US they present a very miopic product that doesnt appeal to wrestling fans, especially when they have a guy like an AJ who we all know has had super high quality matches
Colton Sullivan
He literally always talked about the scalpers for ALL IN and Double or Nothing. He hasn't talked about scalpers for ALL OUT though.
Dominic Allen
Whenever Dave talks about scalpers he's just looking at Stubhub
Try not to spill onions milk on your 4XL becky "the man" Lynch shirt
Adam Baker
His "reporting" is just stealing random info? Neat.
Cameron Richardson
How do you find where Stubhub tells you exactly how many tickets are left on the secondary market? I'm on the Stubhub desktop site and don't see that anywhere.
Aaron Fisher
>H-how does Dave kn-know how many tickets a-are scalper ti-tickets... it's f-fake news All of you fucking E-drone faggots need to check out this post: Does that answer your question? Where's the next form of cope?
Gabriel Clark
So it's a tape delay or they're live? Who the fuck wants to go to a tape delayed show? The reason jew-japan sells out the garden is because they come around once in a year and the E doesn't to say the least.
Lucas Anderson
Live.
Dominic Jackson
No, you fucking retard. It's a live TV taping, meaning Monday Night RAW and Tuesday Night Smackdown will both emanate live from Madison Square Garden on September 9th and September 10th. This isn't a tape delay, this isn't a house show, this is a major show. Why can't you E-drones just accept that this show is selling poorly instead of making up 100 excuses?
Tyler King
Thats a lot of booze for 3 middle aged guys reviewing wrestling
Nicholas Gonzalez
>Romans He’s just as bad as Seth. Are we forgetting that this lull of low-ratings and attendance didn’t start during his overpush?
Liam Morales
>47 yo daniels vs 44 yo cima opens up aew ppv >2 wwe rejects close to their 40s are undefeated in the g1
Lincoln Baker
based
Sebastian Cruz
Yes, he gets his "facts" from a dodgy website. I mean this is on the same tier of Oprah t hinking that "I will rape you with over 9000 penises" is "news"
>WWE is running two nights in a row at Madison Square Garden, but they didn’t sell out at all. It was previously reported via Dave Meltzer that WWE hoped to have a “15 minute sell out” that they could call their own, but the company knew they would have trouble getting a packed house in the NYC market.
>Not only are MSG tickets more expensive, but WWE was running combo deals as soon as tickets were made available to the public on Friday the 19th.
>The reality is that WWE knows that live event tickets sales are down which is why they offered 2 for 1 deals from the start. In fact, they were advertising combo ticket deals before they even went on sale.
>WWE did the same two for one combo deal for Extreme Rules, only with the MSG shows fans actually got two straight nights of wrestling as well which should have been a better deal in theory.
So not only did they not even come close to their instant sellout, they did 2 for 1 tickets from the very start, since day 1, in the hopes of achieving their goal. And they still didn't even fucking come close. They've been doing 2-for-1 ticket sales pretty much all year long, they were doing it since the Royal Rumble in January and they're still doing it now. This is insane.
They literally can't say it because Who Japan sold MSG out.
Zachary Miller
wrestling in north america is cringe/dead right now. what's so insane about it?
Robert Davis
WWE is not hot at the moment, it has no stars. Yes they are financially secure with those tv and sandnigger money deals, but when you're still putting out the boomers to remind people of the 'good ol days' it says lots of how bankrupt creatively they are.
Zachary Jackson
wwe rejects close to their 40s are undefeated in the g1
Both are active wrestlers who can still perform in the ring. Mox was never a wwe reject as he's always been involved in main event programs and he's barely in his mid 30s. While the same cannot be said for Kenta, it's not his fault that wwe's booking is so shitty. Also being undefeated at the moment in the g1 doesn't mean you're going to win.
Cope some more, dronie.
Dylan Collins
This. We're just playing the long game, E-chads.
Gavin Peterson
simple minds of e-drones don't allow for rational thought
Angel Bell
They are gonna need the king of tarps for this
Josiah Rivera
>I legitimately fucking screamed. I'm in tears, I'm laughing so hard. Twitter is that way ---->
When was the last time a wrestler has been presented in media? Commercials? Reality TV? Been a guest on a talk show? Host SNL? The last time I remember any wrestler doing a large number of multimedia stuff was Seth in 2015. He was feuding with The Daily Show, did Good Morning America a few times, was in toy commercials, appeared on Biggest Loser (lol) and shit like that. Now they got Roman receive a fucking participation trophy and the best they can do is red carpet.
Leo Sanchez
>copypasting my arguments while adding cope on top of it is an argument Damn what a comeback.
It's funny how they can't make another megastar after Cena despite having the largest roster in the company's history. They made pretty much everyone into geeks
Chase Baker
They had a chance with Becky and I can safely say.. both WWE and Becky fucked it up. Not saying NEXT STONE COLD *a oy face* but they kinda had a real Daniel Bryan moment with her and everyone dropped the ball. WWE booked her like shit, and that Twitter stuff she engaged in made her look the opposite of a badass.
Henry White
DOWN SINCE DAY ONE
BIX
Caleb Butler
The only way to move the needle is to put wrestlers outside of wrestling shows and expose them to the normies. This is what happened in the 90s and it's how you make stars. It doesn't happen anymore because Vince doesn't want the wrestlers to get famous outside of WWE, so it never happens and the fanbase dwindles. Contrast this with the absolute commerce whores of the Young Bucks who jump at the chance to do anything with the funko pop and hot topic shit and put themselves in other
Jaxson Moore
>The only way to move the needle is to put wrestlers outside of wrestling shows and expose them to the normies. Vince couldn't do it. It would expose his carny business tactics so easily if he made wrestling mainstream again. See Fox's interview with Bayley for example.
I'll bet 50 bucks if normies could see this, they'd thought Rollins was the PR guy instead of an actual wrestler; a fucking wrestler who's supposedly the ace of the company lmao
Liam Howard
>fail to match an indie fed and a company from Japan Yeah why would anyone expect WWE to live up to them
Wyatt Edwards
but Cesaro isn't pushed
Carter Barnes
How long before Vince offers half his shares to Cena in order to get him back full time?
Jaxson Wilson
Good.
Angel Turner
The fuck is wrong with you?
Zachary Foster
>which is why they offered 2 for 1 deals from the start
information to dispute your headcanon is easily available
Did he stutter? Becky was never going to be a star that attracted a new audience, but she could have been someone that kept people watching and invested, and they fucked that up. I have no idea why they decided to book her like a female Stone Cold instead of a female Daniel Bryan.
Ryder Harris
S-still more than W-Who Japan...?
Grayson Lewis
Probably basing his answer on secondary market listings which means nothing
Nolan Russell
>basing AEW PPV numbers on google mentions
he is a legit brainlet
Nathaniel Lee
just like America then?
Levi Jenkins
Was she just born ugly. Yuckola. Never will draw being so unnatractive and boring.
Adrian Morgan
Someone give me the link please! This is top good!
