Currently two WWE rejects sit at the top of both G1 Blocks. How does that make NuJapanlets fell?

Currently two WWE rejects sit at the top of both G1 Blocks. How does that make NuJapanlets fell?

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Nu-Kenta is cringe
Moxley is based

Neither of them are gonna win their blocks, let alone the G1

WWE is non-canon in the true pro wrestling world

Kenta is acceptable,Moxley is not because he's terrible in the ring and every single wrestler he fought had to carry him.

They probably dont give a shit because their attendance is going up, not down.

Moxley's matches have been much better than Kenta's, though.

Moxley deserves credit imo. He could have easily just done the bare minimum, buts he actively trying to wrestling the New Japan style and learn as a performer.

His match with Juice was very good and his match with Ishii was kino.

It's blatantly been done on purpose to show everyone how badly WWE use their talent.
It's an obvious "hey, look at what we can get out of these guys that you couldn't!".

>buts he actively trying to wrestling the New Japan style and learn as a performer.
I was unaware of the "do nothing but table spots on the outside" style of New Japan. Is that from Inokism or King's Road?

Those are KENTA and Jon Moxley. They've never been in WWE.

Do you also cry when Yano uses low blows? What about Jay White when Gedo interferes? I bet not. Why is it ok when they do it? Faggot.

>Jon Moxley has never been in WWE

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Because Hideo and Dean are both draws.
Plus Dean said he was happy in NJPW and will claim that he will win g1 climax after he beat ishii. Also its funny when Vance Archer is taunting Hideo yesterday

Comparing Moxley to the resident comedy wrestler is probably not the way you want to go, and just because New Japan has people who shit, that doesn't make "trash wrestling on the outside" the "New Japan style" ya doofus

Yano is based and so is Moxley. And so is White, for that matter. You have shit taste.

Based user putting the nu japanlet in his place. Take this cringe wwe trash out of New Japan.

Whatever faggot. Purofags are cancer and irl you’re probably dangerously skinny or dangerously overweight. You should probably just kill yourself.

Yano is, in fact, based. I mean cheat and not shit in that other post. Cringeblade and Deanetty can fuck off though.

This gets thrown around a lot in this board, but you are legitimately boiling over nothing, lil guy.

>Cringeblade and Deanetty can fuck off though
cringe

>gets BTFO
>resorts to memes because of how seething he is
Worked into a shoot. This is the last time I’ll reply to ya. Don’t want ya getting to worked up, lil fella.

weebs and nippo bugmen should be gassed

>It's a "New Japan Hipster" post
Oof

Yo dis nigga be fumin an shit

get a load of this weeb

New Japan hipsters are literally E Drones. NJPWChads are chill and fun. We enjoy our wrestling. It’s only E Drones making shit cancerous with their spastic opinions.

cope

>NJPW rejects Brock Lesnar, AJ Styles, Ricochet, Nakamura, Finn Balor, Adam Cole sit at the top of every WWE card right now
Wow, great logic

>Pleb filtered by Chadblade dislikes Moxley too
Checks out. I bet this dude is a Taichi fan lol

this also NewJapanChads breathe with the Chadblade

most of the nujaplets here are newfags that only got into it because of their precious Kenniii-chan. now they talk about like they’ve been watching for 20 years. pretentious weebs. leave your house for once and get some sun

>Block Reznar
wwe
>AJ Styles
tna
>rest
Not at the top

>hurr durr, Jon Moxley HWA, KENTA NOAH, only winning tournament matches anyway
Unsmooth ya brain

>WWE reject
>Moxley
You mean the guy who left WWE on his own terms because he was sick of working there?

They really aren't

-He can't do moves outside of his finisher and a knee kick
-he uses weapons because lack of technique
-pretends to be a tough guy but when compared to Ishii he punched and slapped like a simp (i can understand why though,he is afraid of hurting people since he never worked stiff in his life)

Yep that's the bare minimum to me

Based Mox rejected WWE

The guy who took his ball and went home because he couldn't cut it in the big leagues, yes.

>couldn't cut it in the big leagues
Yeah, I forgot the peak of wrestling is talking about needles in the ass! Everyone dreams of doing 20 minute promos about ass injections!

Unironically neither of these guys have had an amazing match in the tournament yet. Fight me

No one has had an amazing match yet

Yes and the thread is about these two and not the entire field. Try to keep pace

They've barely even had decent matches.

But they haven't been any worse than anyone else. Get your false equivalency takes out of here.

See this guy gets it.

> any worse than anyone else.
Again the thread is about these two guys and not the field. Using your argument already proves the point being made that they havent done shit. No one is asking about the entire G1 fields performance. And even on that you're wrong

Those aren't the typical New Japan style, either.
You have no idea what point you're trying to make, newfag.

Don't care what company they were previously in. I care that they're both shitters though.

This guy gets it.

purofags can suck a dick. While I agree KENTA sucks compared to what he was before, Moxley has worked his ass off in this tournament. Why can't you faggots enjoy wrestling for once and the fucking G1 at that?

>NO THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE BEST MATCHES OR THEY ARE SHIT. SO WHAT IF THEY ARE PERFORMING AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE?! YOU ARE ONKY GOOD IF YOU HAVE THE 5 STARS ONCE AND THEN EVERY MATCH YOU DO US THE BASED!
Holy seething

Funny how this purofags cry about KENTA/Mox while Cobb has been fucking bad, i mean he is strong as fuck but holy fuck does he have a shit cardio

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>Moxley has worked his ass off in this tournament.
>first match was a trash brawl
>second match was a sub-10 minute snoozer with Cobbetty where Mox's offense looked especially awful (lmao those knees)
>third match he got utterly carried

He needs to work harder, this is unimpressive.

Who are you quoting? No one said they had to put on the best matches? And you're the only one who said the rest of the field was shit. No one else has said that. I think you're too delicate for opposing viewpoints snowflake.

>movez

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>purofags
Nice boogeyman in your head rent free
Cobb's shit too, by the way. At least he actually showed he could roll in the Ishii match. KENTA and Mox are yet to even display that bare minimum.

Because tsundere edrones like to pretend like moxley and kunta are good and they get main events and semis. Nobody cares about fatboy.

You must not have a brain.
>these two haven't had an amazing match and no one else has either
Wow, what's your point, brainlet?

>>these two haven't had an amazing match and no one else has either
again who are you quoting you fucking illiterate fuck twat?
Those are all my posts? Are you so fucking seething you're making up shit to defend a point only you're arguing? Jesus fuck seek sunlight

You, read your own posts ya dimwit
>yeah no one else had a great match either but I'm not talking about them, I want a reason to shit on these two guys because of my autism.
At least make a valid argument ya spoon

Oh so you have reading comprehension issues and you're trying to rewrite my posts to prove that. Gotcha. No you're a faggot. Get some schooling lad and learn to make your argument not on changing other peoples words

Did you even watch the matches? Because even a simp like you should see it's the other way around. Not even the japanlets give a shit about KENTA.

>But they haven't been any worse than anyone else.
>But they haven't been any worse than anyone else.
You're the only one that has mention ed the rest of the field user.

Let me quote you again ya goon
>these two guys haven't had an amazing match yet, I admit no one else has but for some reason I'm expecting two guys to have blow away matches in a style they aren't used to working when no one else is having matches any better than their's
Literally what are ya shiting on about? You may as well criticise them for not having a bra and panties match since that's as much as a logical complaint as you've made ya spastic.
So you're saying that the rest of the field, the guys they are wrestling against, don't exist and the only people who are obliged to have random "le great match" are the two guys you autists are determined to have a hate boner for? Alright, ya autist.

Yes not doing "movez" in a wrestling match is a problem,better to learn to do "movez" instead of hitting people with chairs like hardcore shitters.

>Let me quote you again ya goon
>doesnt quote me
>makes something up instead
Im begging ya to put the keyboard down and get some schooling

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>All Pajeets seething that their shiny new two can't hang in the big leagues
KEK

No I'm saying you're seething at someone for making a point only you have brought up. The other people here are saying Mox and Kenta have not had great matches. They are comparing their matches to what others are saying are matches they think were good. They have a different subjective opinion. You're the only one trying to bring in the rest of the field. No one else is comparing them to the rest of the field. They just have a different opinion on whether the matches were good or not. You really are having trouble reading brother

I literally wrote what you said.
>it's not a direct quote waaah
It's literally your argument. You're crying that these guys are obliged to carry everyone else to amazing matches, whatever you have imagined amazing means, for no reason.
I actually can't fathom how you can survive without a brain, it's pretty amazing desu.
But keep seething because two guys you only know from WWE are doing well in a company that you only heard of while watching WWE. They are performing as well as anyone has historically in G1 on average. Only a nujapanlet who only knows the last 2 or 3 tournaments will say otherwise.

So Bret Hart, Okada, and many others who do the usual 5 moves of doom aren't good? You don't understand wrestling if you think many moves mean better wrestling. Hell, Ishii has like 2 moves.

>I literally wrote what you said.
>It's literally your argument.
Yea no retard. It's not what I wrote and the quotes are there. But the fact you have to make up shit this much and seethe this much is funny and proves how little value your opinion has.

Not him, but you're missing his point
Moxley's moves are shit. This isn't "movez", this is his offense looking fucking awful. Yes, those guys are GOAT, because their "movez" look great. What the fuck does Moxley do?
>Regal knee
But it's dog-shit and looks 10x worse than Reegs'
>finisher
It's just a butterfly DDT. Diva tier.
I haven't even seen him do anything aside from that, brawling and making silly faces.
He can fuck off back to WWMEME if this is all that's in his locker.

>subjective opinion
Opinion is subjective, saying subjective opinion is retarded, like everything else you've said.
Moxley and KENTA aren't wrestling each other every night. Why are they accountable for any alleged quality? They are performing in comparison to everyone else. They aren't stinking the place out, they're doing as well as everyone else. What the fuck is the point of moaning about "not having amazing matches"? What does that even mean? KENTA wrestled Tanahashi and Ibushi, so were they not in the match because KENTA was? What are you balls for brains seethlings sperging on about?
I actually can't comprehend how a living person can state
>these guys haven't had a great match, no one else in the tournament matters though, only these two
They are literally wrestling other people.

Okada and Bret knew how to make moves look realistic and fluid,Moxley strikes alone look laughable

>Hell, Ishii has like 2 moves.

Not true but he also knows how to strike,Jon clearly doesn't.
So you have a wrestler that can't strike well,can't do moves and relies on table spots and chair shots to counteract that.
Exactly what people always said about him in WWE,he's mediocre.

Literal brainlet. Okada has plenty if moves, Bret is a technical genius. Imagine comparing Deanetty that can't even run properly to two of the actual best wrestlers of all time.

Yes, you said that they haven't had a good match for no reason so that's the end. The people they worked with and on the same card as don't exist and the average level of quality per match doesn't matter, all that matters is that somehow a wrestling match is just one person and if it isn't some imagined standard of great - based off of nothing because everything happening around them doesn't exist - then they are not good.
The most retarded argument in asp history, kill yourself

>Opinion is subjective, saying subjective opinion is retarded
No that's not right at all. There are different types of qualifiers that change the meaning. An objective opinion for example is different from a subjective opinion. You dont seem to be getting confused a lot and basically getting upset and youre inability to understand what someone else is saying. And instead of asking for clarification you just run off onto your own shit.

>It's just a butterfly DDT. Diva tier.
Bitch, a shoot double-arm DDT could legitimately fuck someone up a lot more than a regular DDT.

>they're doing as well as everyone else
They aren't. Are you really this delusional?

His matches have been better than Kenta’s, and this is coming from somebody who thought Moxley would coast like he did in WWE.

What I said you clearly cant understand because you've gone I dont know how many posts now and keep rearranging some you have something to seethe at. You're shoot stupid. That's not even an insult. That's a descriptive term fo you.

I kinda wish he would at least win his block just to see all the nujapanlet seethe, the internet would be awash with weeb salt.

I know all that, I know Okada and Bret are capable of doing pretty much anything. But they stick with their routine, most of the time at least.(Sometimes Okada will pull a weird mexican submission like 2 years ago against ZSJ). I would never compared Ambrose to those two guys, I'm just saying the number of moves means nothing. I've seen guys in indies doing 30 different moves and the matches were slightly better only than a women's match in WWE.
Yes, his offense isn't crisp, but when was it? I mean look at Chad Gable, that's a guy that would fit really well with NJPW style but would the crowd care? Moxley is rough but the shit he does gets over. That's part of being a good worker.

Yeah and a punch could legitimately fuck someone up but that's a shit finish unless you're 500lbs and can put it over like death.
Mox's butterfly DDT doesn't even have snap AND it's a very basic move. If you're going the route of perfected simplicity a'la GOATkada, actually perfect it.

Is it him being a good worker or is it New Japan being good bookers, understanding what he can do and utilizing it fully?

There's no such thing as an objective opinion, ya brainlet. Looking objectively is seeing things that belong to the object (the thing being viewed) so in a wrestling match objectively there is a headlock or whatever. Subjective refers to viewing the object in terms of the subject (the subject is the viewer) so in a wrestling match a subjective statement is "that headlock reminds me of WWE because they do 5 minute headlocks". Opinion is an idea formed by someone based on their experience which is inherently subjective since subjectivity is the act of viewing an object in terms of yourself.
You are objectively wrong.
When criticising something you attempt to remain objective as much as possible with regards to a list of criteria which is how scaled reviews work. The criteria is generally determined subjectively since they are the aspects of the work the reviewer values as "good", the rating is objective in terms of the scale - it has this aspect we have elected as being good and or bad. This is basic shit you learn when you're 10 years old.
I'm still waiting for you to explain why their performance vs anyone else's is important or worth noting. Why their opponents aren't taken into account in the analysis of the performances and why you are seething over the quality of fake fights but only the ones had by guys you want to shit on. Still waiting for you to tell me why their matches aren't good vs previous G1 debutant and even repeat participants like Yujiro or TAICHI. Wondering what this criteria of not being good is based on since I've been watching NJPW since 1998 and I see no noticeable issue with the performance of either man in this tournament.

>Is it him being a good worker or is it New Japan being good bookers, understanding what he can do and utilizing it fully?
Could be both. NJPW actually knows how to book so it's possible.

The problem from the start is that Dean's moves look like shit, but more importantly his strikes look like shit. At the start if the match he was swinging his arms almost as bad as that Pete Dunn webm that often gets posted here. You made the nonsensical comparison. He's a brawler that strikes like shit, I'd be like Bret was awful at technical wrestling.

>He's a brawler that strikes like shit

That's WWE training for ya

The rare triple digit IQ user

>Both left WWE of their own volition
>REJECTS THEY WERE REJECTED WE DUMPED THEM THEY DIDN'T BREAK UP WITH US
cope

>The guy who took his ball and went home because he couldn't cut it in the big leagues

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God forbid he plays to his character

These 2 have worked e-drones into a total existential crisis. It's beautiful.

It always hurts bad seeing someone who dumped you move and then be doing much better than they were with you.
Drives shitty abusive people insane, hence all the bitter spite reaction to these 2 on here lately.

You guys are over-thinking it. The majority of Moxley haters are New Japan weebs that refuse to believe a gaijin like Moxley can be any good. Incidentally, Taichi does all the same shit and they cum loads over him.

They work nujapanlets harder because they're all former edrones.

i don't mind moxley but saying Taichi does all the same shit is like E-drones level of retardation

Kentas the worst one you fucking retard

Not Moxley, apart from the Cobb match he has been good. Kenta though, yeesh. They stuck him in the more talented block and it fucking shows that he's a few steps behind. Only the Ace managed to get a good match out of him so far. Plus if he wants to be chunky, he could at least have the decency to be a giant brick like Ishii.

Don't know if I agree with him, but account for the fact that Mox is receiving perfect protective booking for his matches, while NJPW are actually expecting KENTA to go out there and have 20+ minute serious, NJPW style matches.
Same shoes, would Mox be able to cut it in those matches? He had to get out the circus for a match with Ishii of all people.

true

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>Only the Ace managed to get a good match out of him so far.

Archer/Kenta was better imo because it didn't drag and the length was what was really exposing Kenta's shitty offense/sluggish pace.
Archer match was concise and to the point though. Didn't give Kenta a chance to shit it up. He did his best because his kicks are garbage but Archer hossed it up enough to make it worthwhile.

>Archer/Kenta was better imo because it didn't drag and the length was what was really exposing Kenta's shitty offense/sluggish pace.

No it fucking wasn't,Kenta got ultra exposed when he couldn't do 90% of the moves because Archer was too big for him,not his fault though since he can't gain height.

He hasn't been doing 90% of his moves anyway. In the Archer match he didn't really omit anything he hadn't been doing already. He just did muh shit kicks muh stomp muh slam muh PK and substituted his GTS for another move.

The Rock would've run with it and made it into a best selling t-shirt and catchphrase, then again he was an actual star.

Rock is the exception to the rule who could get Vince's cringe shit over. And is the reason Cena and now Roman get saddled with the same kind of shit.

Why does OP not know what the word "reject" means?

That finish was flat, they just slowly swat into position and Kenta didnt put enough pressure to make Archer believably tap that fast. That was also unironically the worst pk kick I have ever seen. At least Tanahashi sold his shitty offense as best as he could, Archer oversold on some pathethic looking kicks. It was a shit match.

That's not Moxley, simp.

>That finish was flat,

All of his finishes are flat because his wrestling is flat. The Archer one at least told the story of little man overcoming big man through new tactics instead of a pitched battle between two guys who can barely move the one who could work having to drag the others' sorry carcass through a match almost twice the length with the same amount of action agonizingly strung throughout it.
Archer did his part, got in the good looking offense and made Kenta's look viable for what it was worth. The kick selling was hokey, you're right, but that wasn't down to Archer, that was Kenta's awful kicks, which has been present in every Kenta match.

>mfw

>The Archer one at least told the story of little man overcoming big man through new tactics instead of a pitched battle between two guys who can barely move the one who could work having to drag the others' sorry carcass through a match almost twice the length with the same amount of action agonizingly strung throughout it.

Watch Ospreay vs Archer and tell me that match isn't 50 times better

I agree that is legit my match of the tournament so far. How's that relevant to me preferring Archer/Kenta to Tana/Kenta?
It's almost like Kenta's actually shit and you can substitute him for anyone else and it will be better. I imagine Archer/Tana and Ospreay/Tana will blow any Kenta match out of the water too desu

The rock was never told to be a wacky job guy.

Kenta is not bad at all,he just needs good opponents and/or time to readapt.

>story
Do you think you're sophisticated for using this word? The damn finish came out of nowhere and had no impact. At least when he hits the G2S you know it's his finish. That weak as fuck lebell lock looked like shit and Archer tapped way too fucking fast.

>Objective opinion:
An objective perspective is one that is not influenced by emotions, opinions, or personal feelings - it is a perspective based in fact, in things quantifiable and measurable.
>Subjective Opinion:
A subjective perspective is one open to greater interpretation based on personal feeling, emotion, aesthetics, etc
Once you get out of Junior high maybe youll learn more terms and then you wont feel the need to make up shit

What he needs is to retire.

Holy shit you're retarded. No one is comparing anything other than Kenta and Dean being underhwleming faggots much liek yourself

I just hope to see one match with cunt KENTA

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just let him get 1 match where he gets to stiff the fuck out of his opponent.

He was told to have a mini-feud with The fucking Hurricane about his dick size and even take a loss from him and made it work.