*gets overrated because kenny left and jay white never took off*

*gets overrated because kenny left and jay white never took off*
once he leaves who are they going to overrate next?

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I think he's rated appropriately. People who like Jrs and flying and spotty stuff love him. People who don't like that don't care for him so much. I'm in the "that style is gay" camp myself but he's very good at it. His matches aren't smart matches but he goes hard and does his style of match as good as anyone. Pretty based for a faggot to be honest.

You're a clownshoes if you think White never took off though man idk what to tell you people love him and he's definitely going to stick around the top of the card for a while and contest titles etc and he's still improving as well so we haven't even seen his best match yet

he's literally being called the greatest of all time right now lol people are placing him above where they placed omega and he was unbelievably overrated

well teens and e drones are fucking retarded bro dont hang out on wrestlingforum.com or r/squaredcircle with the mouthbreathers and you wont have to hear their gay wrong opinions

but people on here are saying it
fucking meltzer just called him the best wrestler in the world like yesterday it's going to spread within the next month
god this g1 is going to be fucking unbearable

Kenny has never had a streak of singles matches as insanely good as Will is having right now.

>but people on here are saying it
I do it ironically to work you. Welcome to Yea Forums, respect your senpais.

No oespray match is as good as the kenny vs Okada ones

>kenny vs Okada
If you look up overrated in the dictionary, you'll find 4 videos attached and they'll be the 4 singles matches between them.

i kicked him in the face outside greggs a few years back

>t. fake tough guy simp

Thats like. Your opinion man

who japan simps are so transparent
they overrated devitt then he got signed and they overrated nakamura
then aj came along and they overrated him
then they both got signed and they overrated kenny
then they tried to overrate jay but he's too bland and no one cares about him
so now they're overrating will ospreay

Ask him? He'll remember

they'll latch onto Juice, but after that there are no more gaijin left. there's what, fuckin Chase Owens?

I can already tell robbie eagles is gonna get super overrated but I think he's gonna stay jay white tier

Dave said he'd probably be BITW the first time probably like 3 years ago. And he's stuck by that by bringing it up every so often. He's exactly the kind of wrestler that Dave loves: he's athletic; his stuff looks fairly snug; he is capable of doing intricate series spots i.e. reversal sequences, and the big "wow" spots. And he puts all that together to deliver a well-paced, captivating match. But to me he doesn't have that charisma that, particularly, a Kenny or AJ have. Maybe he'll find that, I don't know, but that may be the only thing he's missing.

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Ospreay vs. Shingo is ding-dong diddly close to be honest with you family.

Eh, I actually enjoyed Ospreay's work with KUSHIDA more. They just had more emotion together, and their work was just as good if not better. Kenny vs. Okada WK11 and Kenny vs. Naito G126 are just amazing, grouped with the best matches I've seen.

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kevin kelly's face is just like "there he goes again"

>I do it ironically to work you
Welcome to Yea Forums newfag

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Omeme was always overrated
Okada carried that shitter

>hurry up and get back in the ring so I can go DESTINOOOOOOOO

Both of these statements are true bros.

Ospreay is more agile and younger than Kenny,he has worse selling but then they both do stupid overselling quite often.

Ospreay is having a great run right now but Kenny's 2018 was pretty insane, much as people like to pretend the Cody matches ruin the entire rest of his year.

>fucking meltzer just called him the best wrestler in the world
Well, he is the guy working Dave's favourite type of style most prominently and most often. Fickle old Dave is like that.
We all know the real best wrestlers in the world are DANSHOKU DIENO, Riho, Yuka Sakazaki and Barbaro Cavernario so we don't have to take Dave seriously about his gay stars. Dave is just for the news and the old stories.

>insane
How so?

>Riho, Yuka Sakazaki
5 foot botch machine =/= wrestler

>overrated hurr

Its more like WWE makes everybody look like shit

based and redpilled

Omega was overrated because AJ went to WWE. With Dave, there always has to be a gaijin Ace.

AJ hadn't had matches of comparable quality to Omega in Japan since he worked for Zero-1

AJ, according to Meltzer at the time, was the best wrestler in the world.

Well he only just moved to Japan so he's going to be there a few years at least. I would imagine it'll be someone we haven't even heard of yet.

Ya know what's weird, Naito does the eye thing cos the Mexican fans made fun of him, but for a Japanese he has really big eyes.

anyone who uses the term overrated in any capacity should be shot

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The first ones overrated for sure. Like insanely. Idk how that match was rated so high. The first twenty thirty mins are like basic strikes than the last ten are like ECW spots

>but Kenny's 2018 was pretty insane
He had a good G1, not a fantastic one, but a very good one, and everything after it was pretty par for the course.
Pre-IWGP win I can't remember shit he did outside of the good Jericho match. The Cucks/GL match? Was NXT as fuck with them just going spot > spot > spot > spot > scream story at camera > spot > spot > spot > scream story....
Ospreay has unironically had a better year simply by virtue of the Shingo match, having a better BoSJ than Kenny had a G1, and having a great NJC.

You sound triggered

>jay white never took off
CRINFE with the CRONFEBLADE

The BOTSJ final was way ahead of any of those matches. Omega's best stuff isn't even his series with Okada, it's his matches with Naito and Ishii.

>Jay never took off
Jay's popular as fuck with the Japs though, he took off very well.
Will has also stepped up.
>Devitt
Shit all-around
>Nak
Based in NJPW, shit in WWE
>AJ
Alright in NJPW, super-shit in WWE
>Kenny
Based in NJPW, his stuff after it has been pretty middling
>Jay
Good, not based yet
>Will
Based

Insanely lazy you mean. He wrestled half as many matches as the other New Japan top stars, if even that.

>Jay's popular as fuck with the Japs though
[citation needed]

Rated in the top 5 MVPs in 2018 and 22nd on a recent popularity poll
Both of these are great metrics given he debuted like a year and a half ago

>22nd
Pff

>Out of 100

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Anything outside top 20 is irrelevant

MVP poll is not popularity, he should've been higher actually considering how strong he was booked.
And he was 28th in popularity, behind people like Taichi, Taguchi, Ospreay, and yes, still Omega. Considering his push and status as a big 4 member he should be way higher.

He's a gaijin that debuted in 2018
That's a fucking based placement for him

Also under Jiro WHOkemen.

NEW ERA
PREASE UNDAHSTAND

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I think 2016/2017 was Kenny's height for me personally.
>move up to HW and had something to prove
>that excellent fucking G1
>series of good matches with Ishii
>Okada WK main event
>all those Naito matches in the G1

You are literally just proving his point. everyone was creaming all over every one of them in NJPW. Now that they left "they were never that great"

Juice is fucking based though

>Now that they left "they were never that great"
That’s because all of them peaked in japan.

no it's because you faggots COPE by overrating whoever is left over

Based e-chad

>You are literally just proving his point.

I'm proving his point by saying Devitt was shit even in Japan and AJ was only alright?

>MVP poll is not popularity, he should've been higher actually
In 2018? When he was US Champ?
>And he was 28th in popularity, behind people like Taichi, Taguchi, Ospreay, and yes, still Omega
28th because he has been active in NJPW for a year and a half. He's been there for a cup of coffee compared to those guys. His placement is literally great relative to the time he has been active.
>Omega already out of the top 10 after only a few months absence
>Nak still in it
KEK what a jannetty

You're pretending that you weren't acting like a faggot calling them the greatest ever back when they were in japan, and downplaying them now by saying they were never that good.

Holy contrarian

Okada hasn’t had a match that good since

>You're pretending that you weren't acting like a faggot calling them the greatest ever back when they were in japan

I'm not pretending anything and baselessly calling others liars is an admission of defeat.
Balor/Devitt has always been a fucking boring midget and the insinuation by dumb Western nufans that AJ was ever close to being the best in New Japan when he was there just soured me on the performer a little bit. He was good, but asserting he's top 5 in a company who at the time had Okada, Tanahashi, Ishii, Ibushii and Nak is just silly.
He was on Naito's level, and Naito has improved massively since.

Neither has Omega. If you wanna go opponent by opponent Okada's match catalog is far more versatile than Kenny one match.

not reading your faggy reddit cope just know you're a tool and ospreay is just as bad as the rest of those shitters

>people have been regularly saying he's one of the best wrestlers since 2016
>the last year he's refined his moveset and doesn't do flips for flips sake and he's been praised for this
>his tweener status with Heavyweight was already happening before the Elite left
>"PEOPLE ARE OVERRATING HIM BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS GONE!"

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I still miss Nakamura. He's so shit in WWE.

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