Alright. So Meltzer's NJPW star ratings.
from 1983-2019 there have been 45 Matches with +5 stars. 41 of those matches took place from 2012-2019. Are you telling me that from 1983-2011 there were only 4 5 star matches in NJPW and suddenly they have 41 +5 star matches in the span of 7 years.
Is this recency bias? Is this Meltzer trying too hard to hype up his favorites? What is this?
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Meltzer is a mark for certain things, and one of the big ones is callbacks to previous matches, subtle storytelling like that, as well as whatever is the most athletic form of wrestling at the time, or whichever has the hottest crowds.
Whichever promotion he is currently most into will always get inflated star ratings as he is more up to date with the product. It was All Japan, it was NOAH, and then it was NJPW again only recently with Tanahashi's run.
NOAH didn't get any special star ratings though. Hell, he rated Misawa vs Kawada at the Dome 3.5 stars.
It's almost like you could pinpoint the exact year Meltzer went senile
it can't be recency bias because he judged the matches from 83-11 when they happened, i think it's that he broke his scaling with the first omega/okada match and he's had to rate everything else with the broken scale in mind
It was getting much higher ratings than New Japan, because that's where Meltz's focus was.
Meltzer is getting older and doesn’t care about this shit anymore. He’s just enjoying wrestling more now.
Who the fuck cares?
I mean when he gave that NXT ladder match 5 stars, I stopped putting any stock in his ratings
Based Dec 29 2003 Gaytch vs Shawn match. Their GOAT match together
We can go even further into recency bias. Not regarding Meltzer but people watching in general
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Top 100 matches rated by cagematch users. First match that isn't from 2010s is placed at 44. Out of the 100 matches only 8 matches happen before 2010. There is a recency bias, from Meltzer and from fans and it is getting out of hand.
Meltzer has become a lot more generous with his ratings over the years.
There's never been a time with such vivid characters performing at such a level in such an environment with such good storylines etc etc... There have been periods with great wrestlers, or great personalities, or big matches, but never all at the same time. The best eras of Japanese wrestling either had guys with huge personalities who wrestled good matches (ex. late 90's) or good personalities who wrestled great matches (ex. early 90's). You never had guys like Ace, Rainmaker, LIJ, etc... tearing it up in matches this hard with storylines all interwoven and constantly evolving.
The pattern is pathetically obvious if you go through these. 2003-2009 Meltz was really into NOAH, then he gets into Dragon Gate and all of a sudden they start flooding the star ratings, it isn't until 2012 and then insanely so in 2013 where he moves over to NJPW and the top ratings are almost entirely from that promotion, despite it being much the same wrestlers as before.
Meltz rates whatever he is into highest.
case in point, he said CMLL is his favourite and gives absolute shit tier matches 4 or more stars
There is also the effect that a whole generation of new fans who got into wrestling strictly from star ratings listing overrate what should be ***-***1/2 match in any other era as **** or higher because it consists a checklist of certain things that makes a great match in today's context like big spots and false finishes without context that they've accustomed to see as this great match because it's the style that Meltzer likes.
Grade inflation among critics is pretty standard. Don't you follow literature?
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It's nothing that cynical. That formula is just really effective at boosting people's enjoyment and their feelings toward a match. All the people in arenas and stadiums suddenly on their feet and yelling after a succession of Okada style false finishes aren't thinking of Dave's snowflakes, they are caught up in the moment.
says the guy defending himself
I think all Meltzer knows of Dragon Gate comes from Americanization of it. from when Dragon Gate showed up in ROH
Then you never heard from Meltzer about Dragon Gate again until they launched the Dragon Gate USA promotion, which is the only Dragon Gate matches he's bothered to rate.
You'll get the odd one, like when Shingo had what people felt was a MOTY candidate with Masaaki Mochizuki, and because of the internet exploding over it Meltzer felt like he had to give it a watch.
I think he's rated around 20 Dragon Gate matches in total
the matches are just better now
user did you link the wrong post?
>the matches are just better now
ya seethe?
maybe :)
>Is this recency bias?
The absolute state of this question.
Or maybe because New Japan wasn't very good at the time.
Dave has always liked the big moves and fast paced style dating back to late 80's AJW. The current period is perfect for him.
Dave is also definitely getting paid to shill for AEW/NJPW.
there's two ideologies in wrestling
>technocratic
Wrestling is a skill that can be improved over time and has certain objective components that can be measured. In this sense wrestling today is far superior than wrestling in the past owing to the number of moves and technique improvements over time
>emotional
Wrestling is an art form that seeks to provoke an emotional response. In this sense, wrestling today is not any better or worse than wrestling of the past that provoked the same emotions
NJPW is putting on the best wrestling at the moment and maybe of all time. The past 4-5 years they have been fucking killing it like no one else. Same with AJPW in the 80s and 90s that's why they got all the stars back then and NJPW wasn't near their level.
NJPW wasn't very good and was dying during most of that period. He hated it and attendance was going down too.
based juvi
Point is he wasn't rating that period of AJPW this highly. If you truly think this is the best wrestling of all time more power to you, but there are a lot of shitters on the cards and a lot of pointless filler.
He literally said that wrestling is just better now, recently. The ceiling is higher than it was.
>Wrestling is better now
What a load of shit.
Tomoaki Honma vs. Tomohiro Ishii
Michael Elgin vs. Tetsuya Naito
Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega
Any Marty Scurll match
None of these matches belong on a top 100, let alone top 50 list of New Japan matches. Meltzer is full of shit.
>What is this?
Good matches
Modern wrestling is essentially catered to his tastes.
That match was truly terrible
LOL
Modern wrestling is fucking terrible so I’m not surprised that autists enjoy it.
Le Meltz just jerks off "muh king road" style compared to the Martial Arts lite Strong Style NJPW used to have
His opinion isn't objective and I don't understand why Mark's treat it as such
I don't know why people get buttmad over meltzer stars anyway, it's just his opinion. Anything over 4 is usually pretty good