Mark Madden on Konnans show

What a money mark.

Why the fuck would fans care more about how much money a company makes rather than how good the matches are. We’re pro wrestling fans, were marks, were here to watch wrestling, not help a company make money.

Dumb faggot.

Meltz living rent free in fatty's head

Except match quality (which definition is fucking shit today anyway) is not the point of wrestling but to an only very niche audience.

As a fan, why should I care who draws money? Does knowing more tickets were sold or the ratings are higher increase my own personal enjoyment? I really only care about if I like what I watched.

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>Why the fuck would fans care more about how much money a company makes rather than how good the matches are.
umm that sucks too sweetie. try again.

Meltzer is a retard but this fat fuck that struggles to breathe when talking is a mark ass faggot on top of being a retard. Wait, meltzer is a mark too...

Yes it is retard. If the wrestling is boring people won’t pay to watch it. People paid to watch hulk hogan because his matches were exciting. They didn’t think his matches were boring but sit through them anyway just to see him pose afterwards.

There's more money now in wrestling than there ever was. Public interest might be diminished but that's a result of our era. The access to so much more information exposes people to a lot more different forms of entertainment. Half of you faggots spend more time fapping to gay porn than watching wrestling

Why do you watch then?

That’s because there is more people and money in the world than ever before. However sooner or later the money will run out, and I can’t wait!

Money never runs out nigga. Money be paper with them dead dudes on them.

You'll be long dead before that happens.

I dont watch anymore, I just shitpost. But I used to watch for the promos, characters, storylines. Match was just icing on the cake and it was never about the technical execution of it.

Because WWE is the only one sinking. NJPW is making the most profit ever, they rebuilt their image and people aren't shy to wear merch on days off. Stardom and other Joshi is now able to fill up their bingo halls on some shows, Gatoh can afford to rent a ring once in a while, CMLL and AAA are doing well afaik, UK indies were supposedly booming but WWE tried to fuck with that, Australia was growing, China for some reason training some Sweet and Sour midgets, and Indies in the US are doing better for the most part besides a few. Is it a Golden period? No, besides NJPW who are on fire. But it's alot better than it was. There was a big chance for somebody to break in with a new company, but to be honest, AEW seems to be fucking it up with gay shit and the company would unironically be better with just Cody in charge.

Damn you're fucking retarded.
Have sex

>He says nervously
Money is a gay bomb baby

>namedropping all these companies doing well
>conveniently disregard AEW's success, which people would not have believed even possible a year ago, includes 2 sold out 10000+ seat shows and a "house show" that outdrew WWE stomping ground, RAW and SDL
no bias and agenda here at all, right?

wow what a fuckwit

well, you're the minority

all of the companies he listed have also run thousands of shows, not two
AEW could be the biggest thing that has ever happened or it could be dead in a year
too early to call them a success just yet

Look, I'm going be honest, he's right.

NJPW's golden age was in the early 90s. They were the biggest wrestling promotion in the world back then, bigger than WWF. AJPW too. AAA, CMLL, WWF and WCW all hit their peaks in the 90s.

We are barely beginning to come back from the dark ages of the last 20ish years.

and yet you clearly trashed them with your last sentence. you're definitely biased and have an agenda.

false wrestling fan

>CMLL and AAA are doing well afaik
kek shut the fuck up, lucha hasn't drawn shit since the late 90's

>Avatar & endgame are the best two movies ever made because they made the most amount of money and made half a billion more than the 3rd best movie titanic so are vastly better than anything else ever made.
>Force Awakens is the 4th best movie
>Furious 7 is the 8th best movie of all time
>Skyfall is the best James Bond movie of all time
>Phantom Menace is better than any of the original star wars movies
>Minions is a better cartoon than Lion King
>Shania Twain made the 10th best album ever.
>High School Musical 1 & 2 were the best albums made in 2006 & 2007
>Minecraft is the greatest game of all time.
>Wii Sports is the 4th greatest game of all time.
>COD 3 & Black Ops are the best first person shooters of all time.
>GTA 4 is better than Vice City or GTA 3.
This is the same "money made determines quality of wrestling" retard logic, applied to movies, games & music. You have to deliberately retarded or contrarian to actually think that the money made in any type of creative field matters in the determination of quality.

Theyre both having good years. The scene is healthy enough that there are independent promotions all over the country. CMLL in particular had been doing great numbers and AAA has been actively tapping the us market. LU opened the gates for them. Fuck they even have the balls to try to run msg

I'm not even the guy you responded, which is why I said "the companies he listed"
you can choose to cover your eyes and pretend that the AEW has no flaws if you want
the gay shit and the absolute disjointed nature of the content will not get an audience outside of their current touring group and they WILL fail if they keep listening to idiotic yea-sayers like you

They have been successful so far, which hasn't been long, but yes, they had good things going as well, and we'll see how it goes but there has been just too much shit shoved in there for the two shows they had, and they'll have to cut that shit out because once everyone gets the impression it is hokey shit with imaginary fireballs and dinosaurs and oh don't worry the chair is gimmicked they'll never be able to restore their image and be taken seriously.
Yeah, that was their biggest time, but this era is also going to go down as one of the greats.
As far as I hear they are still doing good business, I am not an expert in Lucha though so maybe you can give us the numbers?
Cool it with the agenda and false fan talk.

>you can choose to cover your eyes and pretend that the AEW has no flaws if you want
wow, implying. i in no way said they're flawless.

The fucking point was that people paid to see Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan, The Rock involved in the show and NOT to come see how technically they are going to execute the match so they could go to internet and see how many stars it got.

people pay to see Okada, Psycho Clown, Omega, and Rush etc. invovled in a show

wtf are you even arguing?

maybe not, but you sure did get butthurt over legitimate criticism of the company (they literally have gay shit) and the poster opining that he felt they'd be better off being led by a singular voice
if you see any criticism of AEW as evidence of a person having an agenda, you might want to take a step or two back and maybe take a hard look at whether or not your relationship with AEW is a healthy one

Modern fans pay to see the matches. Casual fans used to pay to see the spectacle.

People bought tickets for Hogan vs Andre spectacle. Meanwhile Meltzer gave the match minus 4 stars.

Exactly, wrestling is boring across the board now which is why nobody pays to watch it

Summer fags outing themselves as always. Like 70% of Yea Forums doesn't watch the modern product and you would know that if you weren't a tourist

Ahahaha imagine taking wrestling of all things this fucking seriously
beggin ya to crawl out of mama's basement and have sex

>Modern fans pay to see the matches. Casual fans used to pay to see the spectacle.
This is the same thing. Wrestling is fake. What are you arguing?

Your grandma knows who Shania Twain is yet wouldn't know a single one of those wrestlers you mentioned. You pay because you're a sweaty mark but the fact is modern wrestling has negative mainstream appeal.

Watching wrestling for the matches is gay as fuck

>worked by the wrestling is fake meme
grow a chin

>man says maybe if you rate by wrestling matches it is a golden age, but because of money it's not.
>point out retardation in this line of thinking
>(you) completely miss the point and expose your own retardation to the rest of us

That modern fans just want to see the best athletes do spots and move sequences and clap in synchrony.

Before it was the drama, the swerves, the characters etc.

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VEGAS VACATION IS A DRAW BROTHER

>Before it was the drama, the swerves, the characters etc.
Today it is drama, swerves, and characters. What are you arguing?

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that's not the point dumbass

Oh let me hear about something building for 2 boring long years to culminate in some callback moment or someone attacking someone post match. Thats not an angle.

No, it is the same as it was before, you are choosing to ignore it and dislike it, because you have changed. You have grown older and more jaded. You have seen everything, so anything that happens is not as fun asit was when you have seen it for the first or even for the fourth time.
It's not wrestling that is worse than it was before. It's just that the world has moved on, times have changed and people who cry how it is worse than it was before and still keep watching are just people who are manchildren who want to feel as cool as they were before when their other friends in school watched with them. Those friends grew up, became adults and have moved on.
it is time you do to

wtf are you even arguing??

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Are you saying he's lost his smile?

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What are you rambling? Wrestling sucks ass and audience is vanishing at rapid rate.

>Biggest Wrestling draw in you're path

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Wrestling is dying because the only people who still watch are marks like you, who will watch regardless of quality. 90% of the World is made up of normal people who aren't losers and would laugh at you for being a wrestling fan cause they were all drove away when wrestling stopped being cool. Madden's poorly articulated point is that you can gauge general interest in the product by looking at the amount of money made because it directly illustrates drawing power.
go watch some Jap twink have a best of three buttfuck match in DDT with the other 10 people in their audience if you love workrate so much

>you can gauge general interest in the product by looking at the amount of money made because it directly illustrates drawing power.
huh? wat u mean?

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Normal, sane people laugh at simp that watch fake fighting.

HUH??

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"I need to worry about the financials of wrestling and what the says regarding the viability of the sport" Yea Forums is 10,000x worse than any other/asp/, including '92, Shiv Liv, and brap posting.
watch wrestling or don't, you literal cucks

how can I enjoy a show if I'm not assured that the company running it is financially solvent?
I won't allow myself to get invested in any entertainment that could go the way of the AAF at any moment